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The Preliminary Quarter Final is a balls too, no jeopardy, all about extra games, as you say probably TV rights, get beat in the first round of your Provincial Championship lose 2 matches in group stage and you could still be in a Preliminary Quarter Final , what a load of crap.

Prelim QF was conceived as a result of meaningless games in the final round of the Super 8, its to try and incentivise that final round of group games where the top 2 is already confirmed and bottom 2 is not

Nothing screams its fucked quite like Kerry playing the second tier of Hurling (Joe McDonagh) but aren't allowed to play in the Munster Championship. Long story short, 57 varieties

It will be interesting to see if Mattie does play at 6. He could add real solidity there potentially if he is back to himself.

Really don't see how Matty starts at 6 unless as a sweeper and someone else picks up the marking job on a Cavan forward
I struggle to see how Matty starts at all to be honest having missed so much of the league

McKiernan has nailed 6 and will surely start there, its a dummy team, expect Aidan Clarke to start corner back

My prediction is Matty doesn't start and comes in off the bench for the second half or last 20mins depending on how its going, deployment also as required, could be middle third could be FF

Any of you see Declan Bogues iinterview on OTB?

McGuinness still holds a grudge with him and wouldn't speak to journalists at the Ulster launch unless he left.

12 years ago and still holding a grudge he doesnt sway from his principles McGuinness.

That's ridiculous. All he did was interview a guy and write a book. McGuinness would want to wise up, its bad enough he will be remembered as the guy who destroyed football for a decade but does he want to be remembered as a bitter dick too?

'Duty of care' Jim - what a f**king pedant

He's in there to do a job, and the job isn't to f**k off Unionists, the BBC have their radio friendly soundbites, PUL types can react how they like, tomorrow it'll be ancient history as the business of managing the biggest sporting organisation in the country continues, and the business of winning unification proceeds elsewhere

The phrase 2 bald men fighting over a comb springs to mind 

Sean Bean gave a stellar performance as a Trans-person in Accused, must give it a re-watch

People are writing off Down because they were brutal in the league final and not much better v a very depleted Antrim. I can't see them getting within 5 points of Armagh. Down are shite

Calling Glass a bottler - or words to that effect, following the Glen AIF loss and Derry AI semi final loss was uncalled for and extremely harsh.

Calling Mickey Harte 'that man' seems a lot more barbed than for simply taking on the Derry job, Joe's mother is a Tyrone man and he has a certain fondness for Tyrone that comes through occasionally, he's making the MH issue sound a lot more personal

I have to say Peter Drury wore me down a little yesterday. Repeatedly roaring "And Bakayo Saka" or "And Leandro Trossard" with every half chance. Maybe I should have put this in the gear grinding thread. 

They're all so shouty nowadays. More noticeable on the highlights on ssn. Painful

Brian Moore - "it's up for grabs now" Anfield 89 and Jimmy Smyth - Down Derry 94 the best 2 commentators in my opinion, a joy to listen to and sorely missed

Latest podcast was a bit ott in terms of GAA exceptionalism, GAA has its share of fraud, spivs, spoofers, and wrong'uns - Joe's experience seems akin to Tom Cruise involvement in Scientology

And why so much hate for Micky Harte - referred to as 'that man' in the latest episode, a bit much

Jim McGuinness 'duty of care'

Still can't work out why we don't have an All Ireland Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championship.  Works a treat at club level where every trophy is hard fought and cherished. It would deliver lots more meaningful, evenly contested and attractive games.
Everything else adds to the issue: ticket prices; state of grounds; tv coverage; other sports etc.
The quality of the product is an issue with the coaches, not the rules.
And how many people even knew Monaghan were playing Cavan on Sunday - it just crept up.

There are 3 grades, Kilkenny won the Junior in 2022 and didn't take their promotion the wa*ks, NY won it last year with a team of homegrown Yanks. Going back to the previous format loads of counites opted out, Kerry cleverly used it as a bridge between their minor and Senior setups, a lot of the Kerry lads would have AI's at Junior level. The reason not to split Sam / Tailteann into a further third tier (which I think would have been your point) was provided last weekend by Wickla and Waterford, 2 tiers is plenty

I wouldn't say 2 tiers is plenty and a couple of freak results doesn't change that.

How many 'freak' results would it take - should Wickla not be allowed to bet Westmead?

"Wicklow" or Waterford haven't even a hope of winning the Tallthin cup and would be more beneficial for them to be in a third tier competition.

And no-one would have given Cavan a hope of winning the Covid Ulster (except Mickey Harte) but they did

There's 16 teams who won't win the Tailteann, they might not all have the goal of winning it, they of course want to get as far as possible but some could be targeting a quarter final or semi-finals as a real sign of progress, to bounce from into next year and beyond

Leave that race to the bottom mentality for hurling with its 5 tier nonsence

Why not they were in the Final in 2019 so it was not a big step to come back the following year and go on and win it.

A couple of freak results some might say 

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Yer man is decent craic now to be fair with his parody

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Still can't work out why we don't have an All Ireland Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championship.  Works a treat at club level where every trophy is hard fought and cherished. It would deliver lots more meaningful, evenly contested and attractive games.
Everything else adds to the issue: ticket prices; state of grounds; tv coverage; other sports etc.
The quality of the product is an issue with the coaches, not the rules.
And how many people even knew Monaghan were playing Cavan on Sunday - it just crept up.

There are 3 grades, Kilkenny won the Junior in 2022 and didn't take their promotion the wa*ks, NY won it last year with a team of homegrown Yanks. Going back to the previous format loads of counites opted out, Kerry cleverly used it as a bridge between their minor and Senior setups, a lot of the Kerry lads would have AI's at Junior level. The reason not to split Sam / Tailteann into a further third tier (which I think would have been your point) was provided last weekend by Wickla and Waterford, 2 tiers is plenty

I wouldn't say 2 tiers is plenty and a couple of freak results doesn't change that.

How many 'freak' results would it take - should Wickla not be allowed to bet Westmead?

"Wicklow" or Waterford haven't even a hope of winning the Tallthin cup and would be more beneficial for them to be in a third tier competition.

And no-one would have given Cavan a hope of winning the Covid Ulster (except Mickey Harte) but they did

There's 16 teams who won't win the Tailteann, they might not all have the goal of winning it, they of course want to get as far as possible but some could be targeting a quarter final or semi-finals as a real sign of progress, to bounce from into next year and beyond

Leave that race to the bottom mentality for hurling with its 5 tier nonsence

Still can't work out why we don't have an All Ireland Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championship.  Works a treat at club level where every trophy is hard fought and cherished. It would deliver lots more meaningful, evenly contested and attractive games.
Everything else adds to the issue: ticket prices; state of grounds; tv coverage; other sports etc.
The quality of the product is an issue with the coaches, not the rules.
And how many people even knew Monaghan were playing Cavan on Sunday - it just crept up.

There are 3 grades, Kilkenny won the Junior in 2022 and didn't take their promotion the wa*ks, NY won it last year with a team of homegrown Yanks. Going back to the previous format loads of counites opted out, Kerry cleverly used it as a bridge between their minor and Senior setups, a lot of the Kerry lads would have AI's at Junior level. The reason not to split Sam / Tailteann into a further third tier (which I think would have been your point) was provided last weekend by Wickla and Waterford, 2 tiers is plenty

I wouldn't say 2 tiers is plenty and a couple of freak results doesn't change that.

How many 'freak' results would it take - should Wickla not be allowed to bet Westmead?