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General discussion / Re: Best Concert ever
« on: September 21, 2017, 07:03:57 PM »
Donald Trump was voted PUSA!

EDIT: What this fan wanted to say was "shouldn't be considered' - not wouldn't.

General discussion / Re: Best Concert ever
« on: September 21, 2017, 05:14:18 PM »
Popular response, but Dave Navarro didn't warp (nice use of the word) them, he was at best 1/4 of the band. One Hot Minute was anything but generic, and the sound shift was heavily due to Keidis' relapses. Still one of my favourite albums.

I don't think we can say one is a better player than the other - I agree JK is a better fit for the RHCP, but original he ain't.

Suck my Kiss and Give it Away, while two of the most popular songs, wouldn't be considered 2 of the best - except for nostalgia and impact purposes.

Good Times though.

General discussion / Re: Best Concert ever
« on: September 21, 2017, 02:06:07 PM »
Iím glad RHCP fans still get to hear them. JK Is a good player but itís good that the band are nearing the end rather than growing the music - Id rather lep in the DeLorean and hear them with Dave Navarro (woefully under rated album and time with the RHCP - he was hung out to dry by their addictions and inability to deal with Fruiscanteís first hiatus).

12-13 years ago was the hayday of Californication and BTW, by the way - it wasnít a BSSM fest at their shows back then. Those albums are 18 and 16 years old respectively (I rounded up). BSSM is almost 25 years old, fooking hell!

Unfortunately JK is really just there for continuity of the Fruiscante sound - even their decent new songs just have that Fruiscante feel on the guitar sections. Nothing wrong with that - itís just safe. Not an approach the Chilli Peppers made their name with!

General discussion / Re: Irish Times - Insight into working for Ryanair
« on: September 20, 2017, 03:18:19 PM »
Never flown Ryanair - but flew EasyJet a bunch as a college student

What is the saving compared to a standard priced airline? Let's say Dublin to London, 1 checked bag.

GAA Discussion / Re: GAAGO where are you?
« on: September 18, 2017, 03:23:49 AM »
I'd give it 6.5/10. A lot of buffering, at times there seemed to be 2 sets of commentary coming through, and a periodic pause.

I'd love to have a service that was worth the money (whatever that may be)

General discussion / Re: Weather
« on: September 14, 2017, 07:45:53 PM »
Crazy videos and pictures from Iceman alright. Obviously this pales in comparison, but very strange weather in Nevada on the whole yesterday. Tornado warnings, which we never get. 2 hours of lightning strikes and driving rain and funnel clouds - lucky it sparked no additional fires. Reno has had about 10 fires within 20 miles of the city this summer. It's touchpaper out there. And in the midst of it all - hailstones ranging from marble size to tennis ball size.

General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
« on: September 08, 2017, 02:24:23 PM »
Chiefs were impressive last night on both sides of the ball once they got settled. Kareem Hunt had some turn around after his first NFL play resulted in a fumble - something he hadn't done once time in 4 years at Toledo.
Expensive night for injuries though it looked like.

Ty Hill's high school 200m time would have finished 6th in the 2014 Olympics.

General discussion / Re: Who has the smugest face?
« on: September 08, 2017, 02:20:10 PM »
Martin Shkreli.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:17:08 AM »
You may go and live on The Beach so, with Leo DiCaprio.

At some stage the law needs enforced. No point suggesting otherwise. Poor form to suggest 'The Police' as a whole aren't respecting the law

Until people step back from the brink the conversation will remain "Them and Us"... Wonder where we've had that conversation before!

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: September 07, 2017, 09:16:52 PM »
Puck I hear what your saying.  But WRT to the nurse case,  it is my understanding, and i could be wrong here, the cop was asking her to break the law.  Ie the cop needed a warrant to take the patients blood.  That is not disobedience.  That is abiding by the law

That case seems to be a very isolated incident.  In 25 years living here, I have never heard of that happening before, and I play very close attention to the news.  The blood sample would have been inadmissable as evidence even if she had drawn it for him as it was obtained without a warrant.

I would be interested to know how many medical professional get arrested in a typical year for refusing to act illegally on behalf of the guess would be that you could count them on one hand if any even exist.

I havent  read the specifics on this case.....was there a fatality involved?

Was the "patient" a repeat drunk driver?

Was there a reasonable suspicion that the "patient" was feigning unconsciousness to avoid getting bagged?  (I know someone who did this)

While not absolving the officer from his actions, I would like to know more about the background

Questions which while they add color are in this instance -
Irrelevant, EDIT: Not totally irrelevant.
Irrelevant, but no
Irrelevant, but no.

The state of Utah had enacted 3 conditions under which the law enforcement could request, and be given - a blood sample. The officer had none of them. He only needed one. This was explained to him by the nurse, by her colleague - and then finally by her boss very clearly, professionally and politely. He was presented with the documentation. He lost his temper.

I actually believe the patient was the victim in a car wreck which left another person (presumed responsible party) dead. The police officer states he was asking for a blood draw to protect the victim. In either case - the law prevented the draw.

Puzzled by the claim to pay close attention to the news, not sure that's a unique characteristic?

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: September 07, 2017, 09:02:13 PM »
And that is why I 100% side with the nurse. For sure. It could be argued that the sample would have been thrown out, so she should have just done it - but I disagree with that opinion. She did this as a professional in her field, not civil disobedience of a law officer.

We are on the same page RE: The Nurse.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: September 07, 2017, 08:51:31 PM »
Again - "respect demanded at gun point" is an extreme.

Are you suggesting that law enforcement does not need to be obeyed? Are you advocating anarchy and more chaos?

To be clear, I am advocating for better training for police, and civil obedience.

I'd revise your last sentence to suggest that we should not be facing a bigger threat from the break down of civility, institution, poverty on our streets and how this is being handled by poorly trained understaffed police forces - than from jihadists.

If you think there's a singular causation and blame here - then that's symptomatic of the problem.

This is an insane time in history in this country - and when it's playing out against the backdrop of the current state of politics and leadership, well in my opinion that makes their actions all the more outrageous.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: September 07, 2017, 07:36:59 PM »
I don't buy that comment at all Eammon, no one mentioned infallibility in it's truest sense of the word. I can't believe I am going to write these next words - being somewhat liberal leaning myself but what you just stated is a prime example of an extreme (i.e. infallibile) mixed with an insult (porcine) to make a point which to be honest does little to advance the issues that need to be addressed and is becoming more and more prevalent in liberal discussions. Conversations based in the extreme are the root of many of our problems when it comes to good, honest, political discourse. I've always felt that the liberal point of view was one that is not and should not be rooted in hate, or smugness - but your post below kinda blew that out of the water a little bit.

If a police officer tells me to shoot my wife - I am going to resist, frankly I am scared of her and if I miss I am fucked for the rest of my days.

If a police officer tells me to put my hands up - I am going to comply.

If I get pulled over  - I am going to comply

Law enforcement DOES need to be respected. There's no dancing around that at all.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: September 07, 2017, 05:22:52 PM »
Which is a bit sad when you think about it.

Did you see the woman in Utah, the nurse? That was despicable.

This was a very interesting case. I had a little online discussion with a friend and we decided to take it offline and meet in person to talk about it. Her husband is a Sherriff's Deputy and she is a lawyer in the DAs office and very liberal leaning. We disagreed fundamentally on this case.

Like Whitey said - anyone who has lived here for 10 minutes (or anyone with any common sense) should say yes sir right away sir at all times with a police officer. Primarily because as a citizen the police officer's instructions to you MUST be carried out. These are normal instructions in every day life. Pull over, show me your license, get down, put your hands behind your back etc.... No reason for anyone to disobey a law enforcement officer. My friends point of view on this was that no matter how professional and articulate and well trained the nurse was (particularly in the face of a very poorly trained police officer) that her refusal to draw the blood sample was disobedient of the law enforcement officer - and her bigger point was that this emboldens people to continue to be disobedient of law enforcement, which essentially perpetuates the cycle and potentially puts her husband in more danger than his job already entails.

My argument was that this lady wasn't disobeying law enforcement as a citizen, rather as a medical professional in care of a patient. At which stage does the medical professional trump the law enforcement professional? My opinion is as soon as the patient enters the care of the medical professional. I also suggested that its her husbands poorly trained colleagues who are endangering his life - not necessarily this nurse. I saw her point, she saw mine - we moved on.

That being said - many other things for which cops are being bashed around right now, and which ARE perpetuating the civil disobedience of law enforcement are the result of people not doing what they are supposed to do - which is generally comply with the law and instructions of a officer of the law.

Cops have made some major f**k ups at best and there have been some downright atrocious actions, particularly in recent times. There's no shirking that  - but my conversation with this person made me re-consider a lot of the cop bashing that is going on. There are a whole bunch of them out there looking after our communities in many many more ways than there are those who are terrorizing and killing people.

Michael Bennett should have done what he was told. I hope the cop didn't say what he said to him and I do believe (and hope) that this was not racial profiling.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: September 07, 2017, 02:44:32 PM »
God Bless America - unless you're black

need a bit of context here maybe he matched a description of someone identified as a shooter.

Maybe he did it, and it's all a cunning plot

Saw your post about this last night Gmac and scanned for a news report that suggested this. I could not find one. Is this your report?

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