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Earlier Championship

Success
43 (37.7%)
Failure
42 (36.8%)
Too early to say
29 (25.4%)

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #360 on: September 13, 2022, 08:13:30 AM »
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0912/1322014-sherlock-split-season-requires-period-of-reflection/
Former Dublin star Jason Sherlock believes that the GAA's split-season format requires a period of reflection to ensure that all parties are as satisfied as possible.

An All-Ireland winner 27 years ago, Sherlock went on to manage his county at minor level and was also part of Jim Gavinís coaching staff for five Dublin Sam Maguire triumphs.

Now though, he is approaching the situation from the standpoint of a spectator, and he said that itís important that all personal biases are removed when deciding whether changes needed to be made.

"I kind of see it from a few different perspectives and like all changes, theyíre brought in for a reason," said Sherlock.

"At the moment, from a supporter perspective, it feels like itís a bit of a wrong thing to do, and rightly so.

"I was watching sport yesterday [Sunday], the Italian Grand Prix, the golf and the rugby and Iím not watching inter-county GAA. I had flicked on Ballygunner and Mount Sion but there is a deficit there from a supportersí perspective, and thatís really important.

"The GAA is also an association, and how they progress and probably more importantly [consider] the players Ė inter-county players and also club players....it's important to factor in everyoneís perspective to try and come up with the best solution.
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #361 on: September 13, 2022, 08:17:18 AM »
The bit that Jason neglects there is that has the PL been on, he and the rest of Ireland would have been watching it, and it would have been a perfectly fine autumnal Sunday.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #362 on: September 13, 2022, 09:40:18 AM »
A guy who left his club to join a rival club was never likely to be the best advertisement for the club game.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #363 on: September 13, 2022, 11:38:59 AM »
It sounds like Jason was not happy with the TV sporting entertainment on offer to him at the weekend. It was a weekend where there was a deficit of sport due to the cancellation of PL action among others. Also under the old GAA season only 2 Sundays in September were set aside for the AI finals so Sunday past would have been a free weekend anyway.

It sounds like now that he is out of the player/management bubble that he wants a return to a prolonged county season to satisfy his own entertainment needs so he is basically just looking out for himself. Which is similar to when he moved to a neighbouring rival club because his friends had retired.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #364 on: September 13, 2022, 03:32:25 PM »
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0912/1322014-sherlock-split-season-requires-period-of-reflection/
Former Dublin star Jason Sherlock believes that the GAA's split-season format requires a period of reflection to ensure that all parties are as satisfied as possible.

An All-Ireland winner 27 years ago, Sherlock went on to manage his county at minor level and was also part of Jim Gavinís coaching staff for five Dublin Sam Maguire triumphs.

Now though, he is approaching the situation from the standpoint of a spectator, and he said that itís important that all personal biases are removed when deciding whether changes needed to be made.

"I kind of see it from a few different perspectives and like all changes, theyíre brought in for a reason," said Sherlock.

"At the moment, from a supporter perspective, it feels like itís a bit of a wrong thing to do, and rightly so.

"I was watching sport yesterday [Sunday], the Italian Grand Prix, the golf and the rugby and Iím not watching inter-county GAA. I had flicked on Ballygunner and Mount Sion but there is a deficit there from a supportersí perspective, and thatís really important.

"The GAA is also an association, and how they progress and probably more importantly [consider] the players Ė inter-county players and also club players....it's important to factor in everyoneís perspective to try and come up with the best solution.

What does this word salad even mean?

He'd rather watch the Monza GP or the BMW PGA than the Waterford Hurling Final?

The fact remains that in previous years he'd have most likely been watching NO Gaelic Games this weekend

So he could have watched the golf and F1 in peace

Wheisht Jayo, you're making a wally of yourself

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #365 on: September 13, 2022, 10:34:07 PM »
It sounds like Jason was not happy with the TV sporting entertainment on offer to him at the weekend. It was a weekend where there was a deficit of sport due to the cancellation of PL action among others. Also under the old GAA season only 2 Sundays in September were set aside for the AI finals so Sunday past would have been a free weekend anyway.

It sounds like now that he is out of the player/management bubble that he wants a return to a prolonged county season to satisfy his own entertainment needs so he is basically just looking out for himself. Which is similar to when he moved to a neighbouring rival club because his friends had retired.

Jayo left Na Fianna due to a dispute in club. He was 33 when transferred.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #366 on: September 14, 2022, 04:05:42 PM »
It sounds like Jason was not happy with the TV sporting entertainment on offer to him at the weekend. It was a weekend where there was a deficit of sport due to the cancellation of PL action among others. Also under the old GAA season only 2 Sundays in September were set aside for the AI finals so Sunday past would have been a free weekend anyway.

It sounds like now that he is out of the player/management bubble that he wants a return to a prolonged county season to satisfy his own entertainment needs so he is basically just looking out for himself. Which is similar to when he moved to a neighbouring rival club because his friends had retired.

Jayo left Na Fianna due to a dispute in club. He was 33 when transferred.

Well I'm only going by what he stated himself in his own autobiography.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/gaa-club-transfers-that-shocked-the-county-jason-sherlock-242887

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #367 on: September 15, 2022, 01:43:03 PM »
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #368 on: September 15, 2022, 03:44:15 PM »
The weather is the problem says the boul Declan

Speaking from Donegal, Ireland  ;D ;D

Straws are being clutched at a feverish rate

Youíd have been better leaving that one out seafoid, cos if thatís the best that can be offered then this is a done deal

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #369 on: September 16, 2022, 08:37:06 PM »
Here's Joe brolly in 2020 for ya, Franko

starts around 22:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spt5PdYOmWY
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #371 on: September 20, 2022, 10:55:26 AM »
Maybe a debate about August/ and possibly September would be in order.
They could start the League later
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #372 on: September 20, 2022, 01:36:55 PM »
And play Co Finals Stephenses Day?
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #373 on: September 20, 2022, 01:50:03 PM »
Maybe a debate about August/ and possibly September would be in order.
They could start the League later

Why would this debate be in order?

If anything, judging by Rossfanís post, the debate is settled

This schedule has been drawn up by people who have real time info on the financial implications of what they are doing

They seem to have (largely) ignored the main concerns of the opposing cohort, which can be summarised so far as;

Marketing
Weather
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #374 on: September 21, 2022, 10:08:55 AM »
https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/325098

Add around 120 Intermediate and 120 Junior.
Say an average 400 spectators per match = around 125,000 @ average Ä11 ,add programme sales, tay etc probably grosses Ä1.5m.


And while I'm at it...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40965782.html
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