China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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armaghniac

They need clear standards for each sector as to what is acceptable and a bit of work is needed to achieve that.
They also need some principle about people living with vulnerable folks.

27 deaths today in the 26 counties, which is plenty but these could have been a week ago But new 156 cases is definitely going in the right direction given that you can now get tested. If they keep at it they can reduce this plague.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

trailer

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on May 08, 2020, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: RedKinght on May 08, 2020, 04:30:06 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on May 08, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
Trailer talking nonsense again. Says the virus isn't going away but we should somehow be all going back to work.
As ITG rightly says, workers are not obliged to go back to work, and should work from home if they're not an essential worker as per the government instructions. Cashflow problems of the business are not the fault of the employee, and if they get sacked from work because their selfish boss wants to disobey government instructions and bring them back to work, the employees would be well within their rights to take them to court.

This is unfortunately not accurate. With the extensive list of what is an essential worker, many businesses can make a case for qualifying if they want/need to get back to work. If it is possible to work from home the government says that you should however if this is not possible and on site location is safe an employee can not simply refuse to go to work because they don't want to. If there is work (or suitable alternative on another reasonable location for example a cleaner in a school being asked to clean a bank or supermarket instead) the employee can only stay away from work with a shielding letter without breach of contract.
Not quite. I didn't say refuse to work because they don't want to. Business turning round now and saying their employees are essential workers all of a sudden isn't going to cut it. Employees who have concerns over the safety of their workplace are well within their rights not to attend.

More brains in a false face

GiveItToTheShooters

Quote from: trailer on May 08, 2020, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on May 08, 2020, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: RedKinght on May 08, 2020, 04:30:06 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on May 08, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
Trailer talking nonsense again. Says the virus isn't going away but we should somehow be all going back to work.
As ITG rightly says, workers are not obliged to go back to work, and should work from home if they're not an essential worker as per the government instructions. Cashflow problems of the business are not the fault of the employee, and if they get sacked from work because their selfish boss wants to disobey government instructions and bring them back to work, the employees would be well within their rights to take them to court.

This is unfortunately not accurate. With the extensive list of what is an essential worker, many businesses can make a case for qualifying if they want/need to get back to work. If it is possible to work from home the government says that you should however if this is not possible and on site location is safe an employee can not simply refuse to go to work because they don't want to. If there is work (or suitable alternative on another reasonable location for example a cleaner in a school being asked to clean a bank or supermarket instead) the employee can only stay away from work with a shielding letter without breach of contract.
Not quite. I didn't say refuse to work because they don't want to. Business turning round now and saying their employees are essential workers all of a sudden isn't going to cut it. Employees who have concerns over the safety of their workplace are well within their rights not to attend.

More brains in a false face
Says the one smarter than all the scientists. Have you finished that 24 hours of reading yet?

imtommygunn

Quote from: trailer on May 08, 2020, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on May 08, 2020, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: RedKinght on May 08, 2020, 04:30:06 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on May 08, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
Trailer talking nonsense again. Says the virus isn't going away but we should somehow be all going back to work.
As ITG rightly says, workers are not obliged to go back to work, and should work from home if they're not an essential worker as per the government instructions. Cashflow problems of the business are not the fault of the employee, and if they get sacked from work because their selfish boss wants to disobey government instructions and bring them back to work, the employees would be well within their rights to take them to court.

This is unfortunately not accurate. With the extensive list of what is an essential worker, many businesses can make a case for qualifying if they want/need to get back to work. If it is possible to work from home the government says that you should however if this is not possible and on site location is safe an employee can not simply refuse to go to work because they don't want to. If there is work (or suitable alternative on another reasonable location for example a cleaner in a school being asked to clean a bank or supermarket instead) the employee can only stay away from work with a shielding letter without breach of contract.
Not quite. I didn't say refuse to work because they don't want to. Business turning round now and saying their employees are essential workers all of a sudden isn't going to cut it. Employees who have concerns over the safety of their workplace are well within their rights not to attend.

More brains in a false face

:D Are you tyrone's version of Donald trump?

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Square Ball

I see Boris's new Stay Alert message has went down well.
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid


quit yo jibbajabba

Hope everyones getting excited for big Boris later.

Ye cant help but love the guy

- feeling emotional

Cunny Funt

An update on the confirmed new cases for the week in the ROI

April 6th to 12th - 4661 new cases
April 13th to 19th - 5596
April 20th to 26th  - 4011
April 27th to May 3rd 2244
This week May 4th to 10th 1494


Hopefully before phase 1 of lifting of restrictions on Monday week that cases get below 1000 for the week ahead.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 10, 2020, 03:08:58 PM
Hope everyones getting excited for big Boris later.

Ye cant help but love the guy

- feeling emotional

Prerecorded statement  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Rossfan

I see Arlene and Campbell are trying to say the North should be doing the same as the 26.
Of course they can't say it like that..Regional variances in the United(sic) Kingdom etc...
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

bennydorano

They'd have hard job, ROI Government likes to keep things secret from the NI administration for some reason. Newton Emerson had a good article about it in the Irish News on Thursday, it's available but behind a paywall.

Square Ball

BoJo coming accross like an angry little man.
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

imtommygunn

Quote from: bennydorano on May 10, 2020, 06:58:03 PM
They'd have hard job, ROI Government likes to keep things secret from the NI administration for some reason. Newton Emerson had a good article about it in the Irish News on Thursday, it's available but behind a paywall.

Can you not get it if you delete the cookies?

That message stay alert is so bad it is probably deliberate so people talk about it rather than the rest of this shambles.

Milltown Row2

That's it sorted then!

So basically it's back to work if you can social distance.

Unless
You work in a pub
Restaurant
Cafe
Shops
Gym
Teach p1 or p6

Ok if you work in construction and manufacturing, hopefully those places have toilet facilities sorted and lunchtime sorted, cue hundreds of photos on FB of work spaces full of people closely packed together!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea