Note the change in time from the original schedule.
Hard not to look forward to this one. Should be a bumper crowd from both counties. Mayo needing the win to stay in the race for survival, Roscommon with a chance to put the knife into the neighbours' long run in D1.
We were in a similar situation last year at home against Galway and fell very flat. I'd hope regardless of result the performance is a step above that one.
Arra now that we're safe we'll probably put out the fringe players in this one just to give the a run in the NFL. ;D
....and we're off!
Ross massive favourites for this. Fringe players will beat us!
Quote from: highorlow on March 13, 2016, 10:39:45 PM
....and we're off!
Ross massive favourites for this. Fringe players will beat us!
So you think you have no hope of McStaying in D1?
Really looking forward to this. Mitchels players will be back and even Higgins might be close to a run. I really don't give a shite about relegation. The league is about finding players, finding systems and filling positions.
We must have 8 or 9 of the 22 positions sorted out by now. :D
I presume the Easter Parade is the reason for the late start?
We will have to pray to the Evans to stay up.
just as a warning to ye, in hindsight and the more I've thought about it our management gave Kerry far too much respect today. Respect against any of our Connacht brethren goes out the window.
Quote from: highorlow on March 13, 2016, 10:59:25 PM
just as a warning to ye, in hindsight and the more I've thought about it our management gave Kerry far too much respect today. Respect against any of our Connacht brethren goes out the window.
As long as your forwards don't respect the posts enough to know where they are I'm happy.
Has the venue been definitely confirmed?
Quote from: Beffs on March 13, 2016, 11:14:23 PM
Has the venue been definitely confirmed?
It's never been down for anywhere else. Pitch was playable last week but it was being saved for this one and Dublin.
Anything you hear otherwise is just nonsense.
There will be a game between western Gaels and ballaghadereen the day before 26th march in ballagh pitch 4:30pm . It's a fundraiser for Doireann Martin a five year old girl from frenchpark diagnosed with DIPG ,an inoperable brain tumour with no survival rate .
Quote from: Syferus on March 13, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: Beffs on March 13, 2016, 11:14:23 PM
Has the venue been definitely confirmed?
It's never been down for anywhere else. Pitch was playable last week but it was being saved for this one and Dublin.
Anything you hear otherwise is just nonsense.
I know it's always been officially ear marked for the Hyde. But a lot of rain can fall in two weeks. I won't take it for granted that the game will be on there, until the team buses pull into the car park.
Quote from: Beffs on March 14, 2016, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 13, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: Beffs on March 13, 2016, 11:14:23 PM
Has the venue been definitely confirmed?
It's never been down for anywhere else. Pitch was playable last week but it was being saved for this one and Dublin.
Anything you hear otherwise is just nonsense.
I know it's always been officially ear marked for the Hyde. But a lot of rain can fall in two weeks. I won't take it for granted that the game will be on there, until the team buses pull into the car park.
Take it how you want. It isn't ear-marked for anything. It's in the Hyde and will be in the Hyde.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 13, 2016, 10:41:52 PM
Really looking forward to this. Mitchels players will be back and even Higgins might be close to a run. I really don't give a shite about relegation. The league is about finding players, finding systems and filling positions.
Awful attitude for any supporter to have. I doubt Mayos new management are thinking like this and certainly won't want relegation added to their early CV.
For an established team relegation wouldn't be a big deal.
We on the other hand need to stay in Div1 for team confidence and longer term ambitions.
As for this game.... Often happens in the League that the team that most need a win come out on top.
On the other hand the sight of them effin rhubarb jerseys, the chance to relegate the hoors and the McStay/ McHale factor might just outdo Mayowestros' dire need of points.
Will this be moved to a proper pitch?
Quote from: larryin89 on March 13, 2016, 11:55:01 PM
There will be a game between western Gaels and ballaghadereen the day before 26th march in ballagh pitch 4:30pm . It's a fundraiser for Doireann Martin a five year old girl from frenchpark diagnosed with DIPG ,an inoperable brain tumour with no survival rate .
That's is absolutely heartbreaking.
Quote from: muppet on March 14, 2016, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 13, 2016, 11:55:01 PM
There will be a game between western Gaels and ballaghadereen the day before 26th march in ballagh pitch 4:30pm . It's a fundraiser for Doireann Martin a five year old girl from frenchpark diagnosed with DIPG ,an inoperable brain tumour with no survival rate .
That's is absolutely heartbreaking.
It sure is, her mother is a first cousin of mine , it's just so sad . I won't comment again on it , I just thought of mentioning the game the night before Ross v Mayo would be worth mentioning for anyone round the area.
larryin89, that news puts everything else into perspective
Quote from: Rossfan on March 14, 2016, 10:49:48 AM
For an established team relegation wouldn't be a big deal.
The record of teams relegated from Division 1 in the same year's championship falls somewhere between abysmal and woeful for the most part.
Tyrone getting to the semi-final last year was very much an outlier and the qualifier route was very kind to them with 3 Division 3 teams (Limerick, Sligo and Tipperary) and 1 Division 2 side (Meath) before their win over a Division 1 side in Monaghan and their eventual loss to Kerry in the semi-final. How Derry fared last summer is far more typical of a relegated Division 1 side - beat Down, beaten by Donegal, beat Wexford and beaten by Galway.
The record of where the teams relegated from Division 1 in the last 7 years exited the championship is as follows
Semi-Finals - 1
Quarter finals - 3
Round 4 Qualifiers - 2
Round 3 Qualifiers - 2
Round 2 Qualifiers - 3
Round 1 Qualifiers - 3
Even considering those few teams that made decent enough progress, it does appear notable that they got a lot of games against Division 3 and Division 4 games. Overall it is possible for a team relegated from Division 1 to go on and have a good summer but the odds are fairly strong against it.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 14, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 14, 2016, 10:49:48 AM
For an established team relegation wouldn't be a big deal.
The record of teams relegated from Division 1 in the same year's championship falls somewhere between abysmal and woeful for the most part.
Tyrone getting to the semi-final last year was very much an outlier and the qualifier route was very kind to them with 3 Division 3 teams (Limerick, Sligo and Tipperary) and 1 Division 2 side (Meath) before their win over a Division 1 side in Monaghan and their eventual loss to Kerry in the semi-final. How Derry fared last summer is far more typical of a relegated Division 1 side - beat Down, beaten by Donegal, beat Wexford and beaten by Galway.
The record of where the teams relegated from Division 1 in the last 7 years exited the championship is as follows
Semi-Finals - 1
Quarter finals - 3
Round 4 Qualifiers - 2
Round 3 Qualifiers - 2
Round 2 Qualifiers - 3
Round 1 Qualifiers - 3
Even considering those few teams that made decent enough progress, it does appear notable that they got a lot of games against Division 3 and Division 4 games. Overall it is possible for a team relegated from Division 1 to go on and have a good summer but the odds are fairly strong against it.
Good post and I believe Mayo will be going all out in their remaining two games to avoid relegation.
I thought by saying an established team it would be obvious I was talking about a team who had been near the top for a while - not poor sides like Derry or Westmeath.
Kevin Mc Stay is supposed to have said on local radio that Thomas Corcoran
, Donie Shine and Donie Smith have returned to training.
He mentioned about the size that Corcoran will bring to midfield.
I've yet to see Roscommon this year. Besides their management team what are they doing different this year?
Are they just further ahead in preparation and putting in more effort or could they have a long summer?
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 14, 2016, 08:37:34 PM
I've yet to see Roscommon this year. Besides their management team what are they doing different this year?
Are they just further ahead in preparation and putting in more effort or could they have a long summer?
All players fit.
No injured players playing.
Players have bought into the foot passing and no negative football. Very similar to what St Brigid's did when they win club AI.
Amazing to think the Ros don't have a pitch to train on, never mind play on.
Some quality players though.
Great news about the Hyde, they are cutting the rushes tomorrow so all will be fine and dandy for the visit of our beloved neighbours ;D
Will Mayo be wearing the black jerseys? for this occasion they would be appropriate ;D
We had a lone piper playing Donegal onto the pitch yesterday, maybe we should get someone to play the last post for Mayo.
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 14, 2016, 08:37:34 PM
I've yet to see Roscommon this year. Besides their management team what are they doing different this year?
Are they just further ahead in preparation and putting in more effort or could they have a long summer?
They looked to be on a completely different page to Donegal yesterday in terms of freshness/energy.
They did play decent ball but to me Donegal really looked like a side who were right in the middle of heavy training whereas the Rossies were hopping off the pitch.
Ros by comparision looked a side who were bang in the middle of a crest of decent form (not surprising given the 4-25 put past Cork in Cork) but the thing is Paddy's day has passed yet and the 3rd Sunday of September is more than 6 months away.
They might make it in August this year (which would be progress) but I really don't see them as being September contenders this year.
Dont mention that S word 2 hands, its not St. Patricks day yet and we have already achieved one of our 2 targets for this year ie stay in div 1, our other target is to make an all-ire quarter final by whatever route,
everything else is a bonus.
Aye - we'll lave September to the teams about to go over the hill the year.
Then we'll fulfill Johneen Evansheen' s prediction in 2017, 2018........
McStay said that alright Shrewdness. D Murtagh, Harney, Carty, Higgins and Keenan to come back too.
I feel sorry for all these ring rusty teams like Kerry, Cork, Down and Donegal doing all this heavy training.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 14, 2016, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 14, 2016, 08:37:34 PM
I've yet to see Roscommon this year. Besides their management team what are they doing different this year?
Are they just further ahead in preparation and putting in more effort or could they have a long summer?
They looked to be on a completely different page to Donegal yesterday in terms of freshness/energy.
They did play decent ball but to me Donegal really looked like a side who were right in the middle of heavy training whereas the Rossies were hopping off the pitch.
Ros by comparision looked a side who were bang in the middle of a crest of decent form (not surprising given the 4-25 put past Cork in Cork) but the thing is Paddy's day has passed yet and the 3rd Sunday of September is more than 6 months away.
They might make it in August this year (which would be progress) but I really don't see them as being September contenders this year.
When Donegal were on a winning streak eight days ago everyone was saying they were at championship pace. Lose to little old Roscommon and they're in the midst of heavy training. Haha.
Looking ahead to the summer, are Roscommon at 5/2 good value to win Connacht? Looks good to me given their side of the draw and the way themselves and Mayo have been playing in the league. I know it's the league and C.O'C. should be back but still I'd give Ros a decent chance.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 14, 2016, 10:09:41 PM
I feel sorry for all these ring rusty teams like Kerry, Cork, Down and Donegal doing all this heavy training.
Believe me there will be nobody feeling sorry for them come Summer. ;)
It will be interesting to see how we approach last 2 league games. Do we continue to go with this change of approach and hope it pays off later in the year or do we try and stay up?
I know that some people would accept relegation if we nurtured a few more newcomers and freshened things up tactically. But really if we were doing that well we wouldn t be struggling, would we? Hope I m wrong but players and tactics that get you relegated are hardly likely to fare any better when things get even tougher later?
Quote from: moysider on March 14, 2016, 11:27:16 PM
It will be interesting to see how we approach last 2 league games. Do we continue to go with this change of approach and hope it pays off later in the year or do we try and stay up?
I know that some people would accept relegation if we nurtured a few more newcomers and freshened things up tactically. But really if we were doing that well we wouldn t be struggling, would we? Hope I m wrong but players and tactics that get you relegated are hardly likely to fare any better when things get even tougher later?
Injuries have not helped either Moy.Cillian and Hiiggins are 2 of our best players and guaranteed starters.Aido is unfit or off form aswell.However out of our 6 starting forwards against Kerry i dont think any of them are comfortable in the ff line.Aido is a good ball winner but hes not a prolific forward.Doherty and Conor O Se are better suited to the half forward line.Cillian Freeman Andy and hopefully 1 of Regan or Loftus should be starting in the ff line.Relegation will not be a disaster if we have a good summer but a short summer and relegation then the knives will be out.Management have not covered themselves in glory thus far but its very early days and the injuries have not helped.The free taking is a farce and must be addressed.The supply to aido when hes at ff is awful and should be worked on
Looking at the starting team that beat Cork in 2011 in the AI QF. Makes you realise how much this group has changed over the years. Only the ones in Bold could be sure of starting in the Summer.
R Hennelly,
K Higgins,
G Cafferkey,
T Cunniffe,
R Feeney,
D Vaughan,
T Mortimer,
A O'Shea,
S O'Shea,
K McLoughlin,
A Dillon,
A Moran,
E Varley,
A Freeman,
C O'Connor.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 14, 2016, 11:48:26 PM
Looking at the starting team that beat Cork in 2011 in the AI QF. Makes you realise how much this group has changed over the years. Only the ones in Bold could be sure of starting in the Summer.
R Hennelly,
K Higgins,
G Cafferkey,
T Cunniffe,
R Feeney,
D Vaughan,
T Mortimer,
A O'Shea,
S O'Shea,
K McLoughlin,
A Dillon,
A Moran,
E Varley,
A Freeman,
C O'Connor.
I dont think Hennelly is guaranteed.Clarke is the better keeper IMO
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 14, 2016, 11:48:26 PM
Looking at the starting team that beat Cork in 2011 in the AI QF. Makes you realise how much this group has changed over the years. Only the ones in Bold could be sure of starting in the Summer.
R Hennelly,
K Higgins,
G Cafferkey,
T Cunniffe,
R Feeney,
D Vaughan,
T Mortimer,
A O'Shea,
S O'Shea,
K McLoughlin,
A Dillon,
A Moran,
E Varley,
A Freeman,
C O'Connor.
I think the telling thing is how little Mayo have improved in the forwards since 2011. In most ways Andy and Dillon '11 are better than who's first choice now.
Quote from: Syferus on March 14, 2016, 11:56:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 14, 2016, 11:48:26 PM
Looking at the starting team that beat Cork in 2011 in the AI QF. Makes you realise how much this group has changed over the years. Only the ones in Bold could be sure of starting in the Summer.
R Hennelly,
K Higgins,
G Cafferkey,
T Cunniffe,
R Feeney,
D Vaughan,
T Mortimer,
A O'Shea,
S O'Shea,
K McLoughlin,
A Dillon,
A Moran,
E Varley,
A Freeman,
C O'Connor.
I think the telling thing is how little Mayo have improved in the forwards since 2011. In most ways Andy and Dillon '11 are better than who's first choice now.
K McLoughlin, A Dillon,
DohertyA Moran,
Diarmuid O'ConnorE Varley,
Conor O'Shea/Mickey Sweeney/ReganA Freeman,
AidoC O'Connor.It's six of one!
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 15, 2016, 12:00:53 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 14, 2016, 11:56:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 14, 2016, 11:48:26 PM
Looking at the starting team that beat Cork in 2011 in the AI QF. Makes you realise how much this group has changed over the years. Only the ones in Bold could be sure of starting in the Summer.
R Hennelly,
K Higgins,
G Cafferkey,
T Cunniffe,
R Feeney,
D Vaughan,
T Mortimer,
A O'Shea,
S O'Shea,
K McLoughlin,
A Dillon,
A Moran,
E Varley,
A Freeman,
C O'Connor.
I think the telling thing is how little Mayo have improved in the forwards since 2011. In most ways Andy and Dillon '11 are better than who's first choice now.
K McLoughlin,
A Dillon, Doherty
A Moran, Diarmuid O'Connor
E Varley, Conor O'Shea/Mickey Sweeney/Regan
A Freeman, Aido
C O'Connor.
It's six of one!
AOS is no forward. Head down bull of a midfielder, perhaps the most gifted one of his generation at that. McLoughlin a good player but always seemed a better player coming from deeper. They feel a bit makeshift as forwards to be honest. The only place I see definite improvement over 2011 is the younger O'Connor over take-your-pick. And then you're trading Andy at his very best and a still-good Dillon for a kid, a talented kid but a kid none the less.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 14, 2016, 11:48:26 PM
Looking at the starting team that beat Cork in 2011 in the AI QF. Makes you realise how much this group has changed over the years. Only the ones in Bold could be sure of starting in the Summer.
R Hennelly,
K Higgins,
G Cafferkey,
T Cunniffe,
R Feeney,
D Vaughan,
T Mortimer,
A O’Shea,
S O’Shea,
K McLoughlin,
A Dillon,
A Moran,
E Varley,
A Freeman,
C O’Connor.
Cunniffe,Vaughan could very well be starters for Mayo this summer again and Freeman,Dillion,A Moran likely subs. 12 of same 15 is a big return from a team of 5 years ago.
During Horan's time, a lot of the energy of the team came from back to front behind a competitive middle third. Likes of Cuniiffe, Gardiner(while he was still around), Boyle, Higgins, Vaughan and Keegan ripped into teams. That was the strength of the team.
Now were are trying to remould those players into a different approach and not sure they are as effective now. Vaughan, for one, looks like he has been disempowered by new approach.
Under Horan we were never able to make long ball inside stick. Goal chances came from our running game; not long ball in.
Rochford now has to decide to persist with what he is trying to do or backtrack. Jason Doherty played better as a grinder about the pitch than in ff line. Inside this year he has looked very ordinary. Aidan gets crowded out and when he gets his hands on ball, defenders get away with fouls against him - something I don't see changing either. Cillian will return but Cillian struggles to win long independent ball inside as well.
Rochford has a huge decision to make now. Returning players wont make such a difference imo.
Quote from: moysider on March 15, 2016, 12:55:19 AM
During Horan's time, a lot of the energy of the team came from back to front behind a competitive middle third. Likes of Cuniiffe, Gardiner(while he was still around), Boyle, Higgins, Vaughan and Keegan ripped into teams. That was the strength of the team.
Now were are trying to remould those players into a different approach and not sure they are as effective now. Vaughan, for one, looks like he has been disempowered by new approach.
Under Horan we were never able to make long ball inside stick. Goal chances came from our running game; not long ball in.
Rochford now has to decide to persist with what he is trying to do or backtrack. Jason Doherty played better as a grinder about the pitch than in ff line. Inside this year he has looked very ordinary. Aidan gets crowded out and when he gets his hands on ball, defenders get away with fouls against him - something I don't see changing either. Cillian will return but Cillian struggles to win long independent ball inside as well.
Rochford has a huge decision to make now. Returning players wont make such a difference imo.
Why would returning to what wasn't good enough before with older legs be a real option Moy? Might as well stick to your guns and try something that may work rather than what we know doesn't.
Quote from: Syferus on March 15, 2016, 12:59:00 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 15, 2016, 12:55:19 AM
During Horan's time, a lot of the energy of the team came from back to front behind a competitive middle third. Likes of Cuniiffe, Gardiner(while he was still around), Boyle, Higgins, Vaughan and Keegan ripped into teams. That was the strength of the team.
Now were are trying to remould those players into a different approach and not sure they are as effective now. Vaughan, for one, looks like he has been disempowered by new approach.
Under Horan we were never able to make long ball inside stick. Goal chances came from our running game; not long ball in.
Rochford now has to decide to persist with what he is trying to do or backtrack. Jason Doherty played better as a grinder about the pitch than in ff line. Inside this year he has looked very ordinary. Aidan gets crowded out and when he gets his hands on ball, defenders get away with fouls against him - something I don't see changing either. Cillian will return but Cillian struggles to win long independent ball inside as well.
Rochford has a huge decision to make now. Returning players wont make such a difference imo.
Why would returning to what wasn't good enough before with older legs be a real option Moy? Might as well stick to your guns and try something that may work rather than what we know doesn't.
What wasn t good enough before was nearly good enough and should have been good enough if a few decisions had gone our way or if a few bits of housekeeping were done better.
What's happening now is like a top golfer trying to reconstruct his swing, to get better, but ends up missing the cuts.
What appears to be happening now is that we are breaking down the game that nearly got us there while not having the ammo to make the new approach viable.
dont mean to be rude but listening to that know all bernard flynn tonight on game on gushing about the rossies liam mc hale etc as if sam was on its way in sept get real for gods sake
Quote from: skeog on March 15, 2016, 04:23:53 AM
dont mean to be rude but listening to that know all bernard flynn tonight on game on gushing about the rossies liam mc hale etc as if sam was on its way in sept get real for gods sake
I know it's hard to listen to and the very loud rossies themselves are going to get worse and worse but it really is better if we let them and the media blow themselves up without any counter argument at all .
Even if we don't win Sam we'd be in the same boat as the Rhubarbarians......
Quote from: moysider on March 15, 2016, 01:17:09 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 15, 2016, 12:59:00 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 15, 2016, 12:55:19 AM
During Horan's time, a lot of the energy of the team came from back to front behind a competitive middle third. Likes of Cuniiffe, Gardiner(while he was still around), Boyle, Higgins, Vaughan and Keegan ripped into teams. That was the strength of the team.
Now were are trying to remould those players into a different approach and not sure they are as effective now. Vaughan, for one, looks like he has been disempowered by new approach.
Under Horan we were never able to make long ball inside stick. Goal chances came from our running game; not long ball in.
Rochford now has to decide to persist with what he is trying to do or backtrack. Jason Doherty played better as a grinder about the pitch than in ff line. Inside this year he has looked very ordinary. Aidan gets crowded out and when he gets his hands on ball, defenders get away with fouls against him - something I don't see changing either. Cillian will return but Cillian struggles to win long independent ball inside as well.
Rochford has a huge decision to make now. Returning players wont make such a difference imo.
Why would returning to what wasn't good enough before with older legs be a real option Moy? Might as well stick to your guns and try something that may work rather than what we know doesn't.
What wasn t good enough before was nearly good enough and should have been good enough if a few decisions had gone our way or if a few bits of housekeeping were done better.
What's happening now is like a top golfer trying to reconstruct his swing, to get better, but ends up missing the cuts.
What appears to be happening now is that we are breaking down the game that nearly got us there while not having the ammo to make the new approach viable.
I bet they will be ready for the summer.
Quote from: skeog on March 15, 2016, 04:23:53 AM
dont mean to be rude but listening to that know all bernard flynn tonight on game on gushing about the rossies liam mc hale etc as if sam was on its way in sept get real for gods sake
It must be a strange experience for a Tyronie to see a team people don't detest.
I don't mind if Mayo or Ros win the all Ireland. Just do it.
I'd say the atmosphere in free Athlone would be insane
QuoteNow were are trying to remould those players into a different approach and not sure they are as effective now.
I think we gave Kerry too much respect the last day and it was clear during the dominant first 25mins that we should have done away with the sweeper system (even when we had it they cantered in for a goal). We have to give management the benefit of the doubt here though and I'd say the gooch starting influenced this tactic.
The positives I seen from what Rochford is bringing is a clear effort at a kick passing game, but as people alluded to already we need ballwinners or more confidence inside for this.
I'm sure people spotted the lovely ball into COS (i think it was SOS that sent it) in the 1st half that didn't stick, if it did the goal was on. I'd forgive the young lad for this as I think it was his 1st game against Kerry, he was devastated at the mistake also.
JDoc also took to long to win a good kicked ball around the same spell in 1st half and "postcarded" his shot that got blocked.
Our "cul-de-sac" play disappeared which is some achievement as with us you are guaranteed at least 4 turnovers per game with the like of SOS running into cul-de-sacs, the management have spotted the culprits on this and it is clear they are told to offload rather than "heads down" solo runs.
We lost our shape in the 2nd half which was likely more to do with the Kerry defense than anything we did, the management should spot this and should note that if we ran at Kerry more we would have got better rewards (Parsons and McLoughlins points come to mind). It was a strange decision I thought to bring on Andy Moran when a "runner" would have been more effective. In hindsight, starting Andy would have been better (old man gooch started and finished the game) and might have given young O'Shea a bit of confidence with him in there. I think the lesson here is that with top teams trying to get 5 points back only works if we run at them. Hopefully we learn and when the 2nd half comeback is needed against Ross we play the correct game.
The kicking game only works if we have proper foot passers with some peripheral vision, Parsons and McLoughlin are the only ones with this, SOS is a good foot passer but takes too long to look up and the chance is almost gone when he passes, Nally impressed me in this area.
We also got rid of kicking into the keepers hands, did this obvious order go against us in the 1st half? Options were there for shooters but we didn't take them.
Having looked at the highlights and reflected more on the game I think management should in fact be praised for trying and persisting with different styles, tactics and trying new players. We are not far away and with peak fitness and a few more lads back I can see major improvement.
In saying that Ross is a must win to instill some confidence, especially in the forward line. This is a game where all experiments are off and I believe we will see a different Mayo with the shackles off in the Hyde.
Also, it beats me why the inside forwards don't run out in a straight line as soon as play reaches the half forward line, this will suck out the defense and create room inside. It's a simple strategy but no team uses it. I've also heard some geniuses use the phrase "widen the field" to overcome a sweeper, I think the opposite approach is preferable, i.e., the inside line should be huddled together and then run out in unison at the right time.
Quote from: larryin89 on March 15, 2016, 06:19:26 AM
Quote from: skeog on March 15, 2016, 04:23:53 AM
dont mean to be rude but listening to that know all bernard flynn tonight on game on gushing about the rossies liam mc hale etc as if sam was on its way in sept get real for gods sake
I know it's hard to listen to and the very loud rossies themselves are going to get worse and worse but it really is better if we let them and the media blow themselves up without any counter argument at all .
Of course it will be said we are cocky and noisy anyway even if we lived in a town under Loug Gara for the next year. Plus most media are going with the angle that we are about 2 months ahead of everyone else in training. And reading Mayo blog, that's the Mayo view too. Flynn changes his mind with the wind. Last Summer he was laughing at us. This the most humble bunch of Ros players I've ever seen and been supporting since the 70s. Truth be told, a dry sod and good weather suits us, both in short supply in our own county. Look forward to seeing Mayo in the Hyde on Easter Sunday but should we be fortunate to beat Sligo in u21, if I had a choice I'd take that one first. But I expect seniors to give it all even if Div 1 status and semi final is already secured.
Quote from: skeog on March 15, 2016, 04:23:53 AM
dont mean to be rude but listening to that know all bernard flynn tonight on game on gushing about the rossies liam mc hale etc as if sam was on its way in sept get real for gods sake
Take a chill pill its because Bernard backed them to stay up so he is rightly happy with his opinion.
And why wouldnt people want them to win trophies is it some sort of Irish begrudgery kicking in, isnt it a bit early for that at least wait another year lads :P :o
i would be delighted if roscommon achieve an connacht title and if they were to win sam it would be a real fairytale imo
What show is Bernard flynn on or was it just the radio
I have read articles from him in the past
I always liked him as a player
Quote from: Kurtz on March 15, 2016, 03:07:06 PM
What show is Bernard flynn on or was it just the radio
I have read articles from him in the past
I always liked him as a player
Really Bernard.
Quote from: larryin89 on March 15, 2016, 06:19:26 AM
Quote from: skeog on March 15, 2016, 04:23:53 AM
dont mean to be rude but listening to that know all bernard flynn tonight on game on gushing about the rossies liam mc hale etc as if sam was on its way in sept get real for gods sake
I know it's hard to listen to and the very loud rossies themselves are going to get worse and worse but it really is better if we let them and the media blow themselves up without any counter argument at all .
I've been bitterly disappointed in the Rossies. Lots of one-game-at-a-time stuff. Poor form.
I don't think even we could bate two teams at the one time.
Aidan O Shea
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"You don't want to go down because next year I could be answering questions about what relevance does playing in Division II have when you are trying to win the All-Ireland," said O'Shea. "Obviously you want to stay up. For Mayo, we have been a Division I team for a long time so I wouldn't like to be part of a team that goes down. So it has a relevance, definitely it has a relevance when we are playing Roscommon next.
"I can tell you that 100 per cent I would prefer to stay in Division One
Assuming the Castlebar lads and Cillian will be unavailable for this id like to see something like this
Clarke
Barrett Caff Harrison
Keegan Boyle McLoughlin
Parsons SOS
Diarmuid Vaughan Higgins
Regan AOS Freeman
The hf line would be dropping back and covering Keegan and McLoughlin who would have licence to attack.Start AOS at ff for the first 10 to 15 mins and if the rossies are handling him well move him out and go with a 2 man ff line.I was tempted to start Andy but it leaves us very short on the bench if its not working out.
Quote from: mayoman dan on March 15, 2016, 11:34:06 PM
Assuming the Castlebar lads and Cillian will be unavailable for this id like to see something like this
Clarke
Barrett Caff Harrison
Keegan Boyle McLoughlin
Parsons SOS
Diarmuid Vaughan Higgins
Regan AOS Freeman
The hf line would be dropping back and covering Keegan and McLoughlin who would have licence to attack.Start AOS at ff for the first 10 to 15 mins and if the rossies are handling him well move him out and go with a 2 man ff line. I was tempted to start Andy but it leaves us very short on the bench if its not working out.
I dunno Dan. I'd prefer to leave McLoughlin in hf line. Gooch showed the last day how important a passer of the ball is. Stuff off the laces over 20 yards that gives the inside forwards nice sympathetic ball. Vaughan does not have the radar or the quality to do the right things as a forward at this level. I d go with Diarmuid, Higgins and McLoughlin there. Hall or Vaughan starting in backs.
Deffo Keegan in hb line. I know we are trying to kick the ball more but our runners still going to be huge for us imo.
Quote from: moysider on March 15, 2016, 11:56:14 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on March 15, 2016, 11:34:06 PM
Assuming the Castlebar lads and Cillian will be unavailable for this id like to see something like this
Clarke
Barrett Caff Harrison
Keegan Boyle McLoughlin
Parsons SOS
Diarmuid Vaughan Higgins
Regan AOS Freeman
The hf line would be dropping back and covering Keegan and McLoughlin who would have licence to attack.Start AOS at ff for the first 10 to 15 mins and if the rossies are handling him well move him out and go with a 2 man ff line. I was tempted to start Andy but it leaves us very short on the bench if its not working out.
I dunno Dan. I'd prefer to leave McLoughlin in hf line. Gooch showed the last day how important a passer of the ball is. Stuff off the laces over 20 yards that gives the inside forwards nice sympathetic ball. Vaughan does not have the radar or the quality to do the right things as a forward at this level. I d go with Diarmuid, Higgins and McLoughlin there. Hall or Vaughan starting in backs.
Deffo Keegan in hb line. I know we are trying to kick the ball more but our runners still going to be huge for us imo.
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The running game should always be our main weapon.It just needed a bit of fine tuning.I still think come Summer we will be playing the running game mixed with more kick passing.We could swap Vaughan and McLoughlin.I agree with you about Vaughan hes a very limited footballer but a serious athlete and a good ball winner.He should be forbidden for kicking the ball though just needs to keep it simple.That would just be my team for the rossies for me Cillian Patrick Durcan and maybe Cunniffe would be on my championship 15.
Quote from: mayoman dan on March 16, 2016, 12:07:00 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 15, 2016, 11:56:14 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on March 15, 2016, 11:34:06 PM
Assuming the Castlebar lads and Cillian will be unavailable for this id like to see something like this
Clarke
Barrett Caff Harrison
Keegan Boyle McLoughlin
Parsons SOS
Diarmuid Vaughan Higgins
Regan AOS Freeman
The hf line would be dropping back and covering Keegan and McLoughlin who would have licence to attack.Start AOS at ff for the first 10 to 15 mins and if the rossies are handling him well move him out and go with a 2 man ff line. I was tempted to start Andy but it leaves us very short on the bench if its not working out.
I dunno Dan. I'd prefer to leave McLoughlin in hf line. Gooch showed the last day how important a passer of the ball is. Stuff off the laces over 20 yards that gives the inside forwards nice sympathetic ball. Vaughan does not have the radar or the quality to do the right things as a forward at this level. I d go with Diarmuid, Higgins and McLoughlin there. Hall or Vaughan starting in backs.
Deffo Keegan in hb line. I know we are trying to kick the ball more but our runners still going to be huge for us imo.
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The running game should always be our main weapon.It just needed a bit of fine tuning.I still think come Summer we will be playing the running game mixed with more kick passing.We could swap Vaughan and McLoughlin.I agree with you about Vaughan hes a very limited footballer but a serious athlete and a good ball winner.He should be forbidden for kicking the ball though just needs to keep it simple.That would just be my team for the rossies for me Cillian Patrick Durcan and maybe Cunniffe would be on my championship 15.
I m hoping Neil Douglas will be stepping up as well.
QuoteClarke
Barrett Caff Harrison
Keegan Boyle McLoughlin
Parsons SOS
Diarmuid Vaughan Higgins
Regan AOS Freeman
That's not a bad set up assuming you are playing Vaugan as a third midfieler. I'd like them to chance Parsons at CHF. Doherty should be given another chance in the HF line and told to shoot from distance, he is well able to do it. I'd swap him with Barrett and move Higgins back to mark Fintan Cregg.
Quote from: highorlow on March 16, 2016, 09:54:03 AM
QuoteClarke
Barrett Caff Harrison
Keegan Boyle McLoughlin
Parsons SOS
Diarmuid Vaughan Higgins
Regan AOS Freeman
That's not a bad set up assuming you are playing Vaugan as a third midfieler. I'd like them to chance Parsons at CHF. Doherty should be given another chance in the HF line and told to shoot from distance, he is well able to do it. I'd swap him with Barrett and move Higgins back to mark Fintan Cregg.
Vaughan would be playing a an extra defender with a licence to bomb forward.If Doherty is playing it has to be in the hf line hes wasted inside.IMO our middle 8 are not the problem.We all have our different ideas and combos for in here but its the ff line thats the problem.We need our most accurate forwards in here taking the shooting chances.Doherty Conor O Shea and Aido are not suited to playing in here.Aido maybe as a ball winner but thats it his shooting can be hit and miss.
playing 2 natural back in the forward is just silly ,
we need forward who will actually score .
Freeman is a scoring forward but is crap at it.
connor o shea needs all the game time he can get , Regan is not really knocking any trees down at the moment but we need his frees till CoC comes back.
Sweeney nor Ronaldson have not been given a proper run yet. while I agree we should play a running game some on has to be there to take responsibility in the end and the where real forwards are required
Crikey will Ye quit with the Sweeney or ronaldson craic, div 3 footballers sin e.
Quote from: rosnarun on March 16, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
playing 2 natural back in the forward is just silly ,
we need forward who will actually score .
Freeman is a scoring forward but is crap at it.
connor o shea needs all the game time he can get , Regan is not really knocking any trees down at the moment but we need his frees till CoC comes back.
Sweeney nor Ronaldson have not been given a proper run yet. while I agree we should play a running game some on has to be there to take responsibility in the end and the where real forwards are required
Freeman is a scoring forward but is crap at it ;D every county has dozens of those.
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 16, 2016, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on March 16, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
playing 2 natural back in the forward is just silly ,
we need forward who will actually score .
Freeman is a scoring forward but is crap at it.
connor o shea needs all the game time he can get , Regan is not really knocking any trees down at the moment but we need his frees till CoC comes back.
Sweeney nor Ronaldson have not been given a proper run yet. while I agree we should play a running game some on has to be there to take responsibility in the end and the where real forwards are required
Freeman is a scoring forward but is crap at it ;D every county has dozens of those.
Some of our dozens have half a dozen Connacht winning medals , how's your dozens doin on that count?
Loads of underage and as you well know by now senior medals to follow and we will do it without a single rhubard in our lineout, I bet if Andy was asked which county he would have preferred to win his medals with his answer would not suit you, would prefer a volunteer to a conscript anyday ;D
I'm not goin to get into an infantile argument with you . All we can know for sure is there are two "rhubarbs" running the show for Ye now , Andy Moran is a Mayo man and legend now and it's unfair to describe him as anything else .
I certainly am not sure Roscommon will win multiple Connacht championships , sure who knows they mightn't even win this year albeit it's looking very likely I'll give you that . I just don't get this acceptance by everyone that it's just a foregone conclusion that both Mayo and Galway are going to become totally inferior to Roscommon for eternity . It's all getting a bit ridiculous if you ask me , now I must say I do think Ye will win it this year as it's going to take Rochford a couple of years to put his stamp on things.
One or two years away from the croke park weekends will do my pocket no harm at all .
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Some of our dozens have half a dozen Connacht winning medals , how's your dozens doin on that count?
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A cork man said to me the other day, no one remembers who won the league.
Mind you he was in bad form after watching the football and then the hurling
But most people in Ireland would say the same thing about Connacht
Andy Moran is a Roscommon man.
The GAA club in his town affiliate to the Mayo Co Board so he's only qualified to play for the County team that operates under the Mayo CB.
The England and Wales Cricket team are called England. Anyone from Wales that plays for them is still a Welshman ;)
Quote from: Kurtz on March 17, 2016, 07:18:35 PM
Some of our dozens have half a dozen Connacht winning medals , how's your dozens doin on that count?
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A cork man said to me the other day, no one remembers who won the league.
Mind you he was in bad form after watching the football and then the hurling
But most people in Ireland would say the same thing about Connacht
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Erm TBH I couldn't give a fook what a cork man thinks or the rest of Ireland , in the context of Mayo v Ross rivalry unfortunately there is only one barometer as regards medals until either win an AI in the modern era and that's Connacht medals and we p I Ss all over Ye to date , thanks for your time.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 17, 2016, 07:19:37 PM
Andy Moran is a Roscommon man.
The GAA club in his town affiliate to the Mayo Co Board so he's only qualified to play for the County team that operates under the Mayo CB.
The England and Wales Cricket team are called England. Anyone from Wales that plays for them is still a Welshman ;)
Ask Andy .
LOL
Will the Castlebar lads be back for the Ros match or will they still be in hiding? ::)
Quote from: larryin89 on March 17, 2016, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 17, 2016, 07:19:37 PM
Andy Moran is a Roscommon man.
The GAA club in his town affiliate to the Mayo Co Board so he's only qualified to play for the County team that operates under the Mayo CB.
The England and Wales Cricket team are called England. Anyone from Wales that plays for them is still a Welshman ;)
Ask Andy .
Don't need to. Explained above.
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 17, 2016, 08:17:59 PM
Will the Castlebar lads be back for the Ros match or will they still be in hiding? ::)
You should know Mayo don't hide, coming back and back after tough defeats. There are a lot of things we do. But we never hide.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2016, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 17, 2016, 08:17:59 PM
Will the Castlebar lads be back for the Ros match or will they still be in hiding? ::)
You should know Mayo don't hide, coming back and back after tough defeats. There are a lot of things we do. But we never hide.
Sure Ros have done the same a thousand times. Expect hell if you want to survive Bunker.
Quote from: Syferus on March 17, 2016, 11:04:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2016, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 17, 2016, 08:17:59 PM
Will the Castlebar lads be back for the Ros match or will they still be in hiding? ::)
You should know Mayo don't hide, coming back and back after tough defeats. There are a lot of things we do. But we never hide.
Sure Ros have done the same a thousand times. Expect hell if you want to survive Bunker.
Ross are the best in the land , sure everywhere you go it's all about the Rossie , I don't think Gaelic football has seen anything like the magnificent ros.
Still no bookie in the land will offer me evens or better for mayo to retain Nestor , I don't get it .
Dont worry bunker you always have syfs shoulder to cry on.
Larryin, good betting man like you I hope you were on Ballyboden at 5/2 today oh and by the way you can get your beloved rhubarbs at evens for sunday weeks game.
You're the main one hyperbolically making Ros out to be a superteam Larry. ;)
Just go aisy on it or you might wind up poor Syfín.
Not hyperbole stuff man ffs , you would have to be in denial to be saying Ross are not the buzzword in gaa land of late and rightly so . I genuinely can't understand the odds , Ross have only come in ever so slightly and Mayo ever so slightly in the other direction obviously . I'm being on the level here Mayo 4/6 and Ross 5/2 , there is not a gaa gambler in the country who wouldn't see the value in backing Roscommon . Even if you weren't 100% confident there's value in the price as most would see it as a foregone conclusion Ross will make provincial decider (will not slip up again like last year) and they will be forecast odds of about 7/4 or 6/4 even for the final if Mayo , your 5/2 outright is already in profit then , take into consideration it also covers your draws and if Galway beat mayo your cash out would be even more handsome .
Don't gamble for religious reasons.
Just remember the only good bet is a winning one ;) no matter the odds.
As for the GAA pundits getting excited about Ros - they're only crying out for a new team( other than the Monies) to come on the scene after 4 years of Dublin Kerry Mayowestros and Donegal.
If we don't fulfil their expectations they'll turn on us like mad for making them look foolish.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 18, 2016, 12:07:47 AM
Don't gamble for religious reasons.
Just remember the only good bet is a winning one ;) no matter the odds.
As for the GAA pundits getting excited about Ros - they're only crying out for a new team( other than the Monies) to come on the scene after 4 years of Dublin Kerry Mayowestros and Donegal.
If we don't fulfil their expectations they'll turn on us like mad for making them look foolish.
You have it in one Rossfan! They'll build you up for the fall! They are looking for the story on both sides. You want to watch them Kerry lads, They are the cutest at the media game!
It's nice pundits are hailing us as soon sort of anachronistic success story in the face of impossible odds against financial benefits. But we have a grounded panel that's as hungry as any in the courtry for success. They have the ability to compete at the top table for the first time since the turn of century. What happens next is their choice. John Evans wasn't wrong.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 18, 2016, 12:14:09 AM
You have it in one Rossfan! They'll build you up for the fall! They are looking for the story on both sides. You want to watch them Kerry lads, They are the cutest at the media game!
No truer words were ever spoke. When the Kerry Media Mafia get their claws into you, you know you're doing something right.
When the O'Se brothers start bigging you up on the Sunday Game and in their 8734 newspaper columns, you MUST, MUST, MUST resist the temptation to nod the head in fierce agreement and puff out the chest in pride. When they start that shite....it's time to run for the hills !!!
Quote from: Syferus on March 18, 2016, 12:26:21 AM
It's nice pundits are hailing us as soon sort of anachronistic success story in the face of impossible odds against financial benefits.
Roscommon have one of the biggest financial budgets in the game, they spent more on their teams last year than 5 of the last 8.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 18, 2016, 04:39:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 18, 2016, 12:26:21 AM
It's nice pundits are hailing us as soon sort of anachronistic success story in the face of impossible odds against financial benefits.
Roscommon have one of the biggest financial budgets in the game, they spent more on their teams last year than 5 of the last 8.
When the county hurlers win a final, footballers get promoted, U21s get to AI semi it tends to add up.
Roscommon don't have a training centre so they spend money on pitch hire and facilities.
Huge number of players outside the county to cover mileage for.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 18, 2016, 08:41:41 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 18, 2016, 04:39:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 18, 2016, 12:26:21 AM
It's nice pundits are hailing us as soon sort of anachronistic success story in the face of impossible odds against financial benefits.
Roscommon have one of the biggest financial budgets in the game, they spent more on their teams last year than 5 of the last 8.
When the county hurlers win a final, footballers get promoted, U21s get to AI semi it tends to add up.
Roscommon don't have a training centre so they spend money on pitch hire and facilities.
Huge number of players outside the county to cover mileage for.
Only three other counties who only have teams compete in the All Ireland Senior Football Championship spent more on their teams last year than Roscommon. They were Armagh, Donegal and Kerry. Only Armagh exited the Championship before Roscommon. They spent near 200k more than Kildare, Fermanagh, Tyrone and Monaghan. They spent more than Mayo did in the last two years. You lads like to do a lot of poor mouthing but it doesn't add up with the facts. I'm not buying the hurling argument either, there is no substance to it, they operate at a very low level. Tyrone won the same competition the year before in hurling and it had no impact on their spending on county teams.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 18, 2016, 08:41:41 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 18, 2016, 04:39:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 18, 2016, 12:26:21 AM
It's nice pundits are hailing us as soon sort of anachronistic success story in the face of impossible odds against financial benefits.
Roscommon have one of the biggest financial budgets in the game, they spent more on their teams last year than 5 of the last 8.
When the county hurlers win a final, footballers get promoted, U21s get to AI semi it tends to add up.
Roscommon don't have a training centre so they spend money on pitch hire and facilities.
Huge number of players outside the county to cover mileage for.
Most counties also have to pay huge mileage costs, Roscommon are not unique in this regard.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 18, 2016, 08:41:41 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 18, 2016, 04:39:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 18, 2016, 12:26:21 AM
It's nice pundits are hailing us as soon sort of anachronistic success story in the face of impossible odds against financial benefits.
Roscommon have one of the biggest financial budgets in the game, they spent more on their teams last year than 5 of the last 8.
When the county hurlers win a final, footballers get promoted, U21s get to AI semi it tends to add up.
Roscommon don't have a training centre so they spend money on pitch hire and facilities.
Huge number of players outside the county to cover mileage for.
And we obviously have more transparent accounts than a lot of Counties ;)
If Ros have sorted out their defensive issues they'll win.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 18, 2016, 10:15:01 AM
If Ros have sorted out their defensive issues they'll win.
If we can keep it down to a single digit deficit we will be doing well . This game will put the final nail in this particular mayo adventure . I'm expecting an early exit to Galway after relegation in the league and you'd have to think an early exit from the qualifiers would be ideal but we will probably win a couple of games there before losing to a provincial loser in last rd. Very sad year ahead but it was bound to finish like this .
Nothing but pride I have for this team and the memories they have given us . All eras end though , I just wish it was Galway that we're coming to take over and not them lot
Talk about playing the poor mouth!!!
Poor mouth! Sure the league table is there for everyone to see , we have nothing new to add to this team , where is the evidence to suggest otherwise?
Quote from: larryin89 on March 18, 2016, 11:56:17 AM
Poor mouth! Sure the league table is there for everyone to see , we have nothing new to add to this team , where is the evidence to suggest otherwise?
Means nothing come championship. There was a terrible mystique build up around Division 1 by the media and the established teams up there and us poor Rossies not long up from Div 4 were told we had no hope in surviving in that hot cauldron due to the speed, skill, stamina of the Division 1 teams. Sure who was that lad on this board McElf telling us we'd be hammered in every game. Speed, skill, stamina how are ya? At this time of year, all the teams up there are pure shite and they would all be lucky to survive in Div 3. If Cavan and Galway were up in Div 1 right now, they'd have no problem being top 4. Come the Summer it will be a different story but at this time of year the big team are feckin useless and had us all codded. We've been bursting ourselves training hoping we might get one win if we were lucky only to discover it's easier to cut through these teams at this time of year than a dose of salts. I see all the Mayo lads giving out about Star pulling the beard O'Shea's jersey in the penalty area but what I see on that photo is like a scene from a bad junior match with O'Shea bulldozing his way through and knocking all around him, poor Star falling over and grabbing O'Shea's jersey to break his fall only to discover the bleddy thing was as elastic as 1970s playtex bra. It's awful stuff altogether. But you can be sure come Summer they will be back in form and waving their fingers and saying time to reverse that bus into the shed ye cocky Rossies .
weareros has poor mouth down to JOM's level.
I feel very sad and have every sympathy for you larryin and your once great team thats about to draw its last breath, when Galway beat ye and ye then lose to Carlow in the qualifiers it will be a sad day for all us west of ireland folk, there will be bitter tears shed in every parish in Roscommon and beyond, never again will we see the gracefull moves of AOS or the swan dives of COC.
The king is dead,
Long live the king.
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 18, 2016, 04:30:14 PM
I feel very sad and have every sympathy for you larryin and your once great team thats about to draw its last breath, when Galway beat ye and ye then lose to Carlow in the qualifiers it will be a sad day for all us west of ireland folk, there will be bitter tears shed in every parish in Roscommon and beyond, never again will we see the gracefull moves of AOS or the swan dives of COC.
The king is dead,
Long live the king.
Never has "lowest form of wit" been more apt. Don't bother crying too much we won't be 15 years in the dark that's for sure .
Quote from: larryin89 on March 18, 2016, 05:45:25 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 18, 2016, 04:30:14 PM
I feel very sad and have every sympathy for you larryin and your once great team thats about to draw its last breath, when Galway beat ye and ye then lose to Carlow in the qualifiers it will be a sad day for all us west of ireland folk, there will be bitter tears shed in every parish in Roscommon and beyond, never again will we see the gracefull moves of AOS or the swan dives of COC.
The king is dead,
Long live the king.
Never has "lowest form of wit" been more apt. Don't bother crying too much we won't be 15 years in the dark that's for sure .
Blinded by the light at the end of the tunnel :).
Some of the Rossie posts on here are an embarrassment. St.Patrick's day is barely passed and anyone would think they are now the new kings of football.
Go out and have a few beers lads, enjoy these few moments in the sun. Return and gloat all ye want if ye win Connacht.
p.s having many friends and relations Rossies I'll be the 1st to support ye if/when we are out, but try and keep the banter to just banter. We are all Westies after all.
Quote from: highorlow on March 18, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
Some of the Rossie posts on here are an embarrassment. St.Patrick's day is barely passed and anyone would think they are now the new kings of football.
Go out and have a few beers lads, enjoy these few moments in the sun. Return and gloat all ye want if ye win Connacht.
p.s having many friends and relations Rossies I'll be the 1st to support ye if/when we are out, but try and keep the banter to just banter. We are all Westies after all.
Sensationalist shite, the non Rossies and media are the ones bumping us up. Bit ironic regarding banter, when one or two of your own has set up a Facebook page to exclusively have a cut in a derogatory manner at anything remotely linked to Roscommon. The same sham banter page is touted by the WJ Blog, complete lack of class.
We're not the ones talking us up.
That's Larryin and some media people. We're enjoying this unexpected good run and better than expected performances in the League.
We hope we can replicate a lot of that in the higher intensity more competitive Championship.
What's embarrassing about that.
Quote from: highorlow on March 18, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
Some of the Rossie posts on here are an embarrassment. St.Patrick's day is barely passed and anyone would think they are now the new kings of football.
Go out and have a few beers lads, enjoy these few moments in the sun. Return and gloat all ye want if ye win Connacht.
p.s having many friends and relations Rossies I'll be the 1st to support ye if/when we are out, but try and keep the banter to just banter. We are all Westies after all.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. No problem saying so. I've no problem with any of the Rossie posters here either- a bit of craic and nothing personal.
However, I do meet a few of their fellow-countrymen and you'd swear they have Sam in the bag already. Now, I know they are not a representative cross-section of fans but I do remind them of Sligo and Fermanagh just a few short years ago.
Pride goes before a fall and all that sort of stuff.
If the players buy into this crap, they'll be in for a nasty shock. Ross has the best chance in years to win Connacht lkif hey don't lose the run of themselves..
I'm worried about Mayo. No doubt they are training with August in mind but tactically they are as clueless as they were when Horan was in charge. Still no idea how best to utilise Aiden O'Shea's strengths and that's only for starters. When you think of how easily Donaghy with O'Donoghue feeding off him, wrecked our chances in Limerick, I don't think it takes rocket science to set up a similar plan of action for Mayo. Trouble is that Kerry's midfielders and half forwards could find Donaghy every time with long, precision passes while their Mayo counterparts couldn't hit a barn door with a shovel.
Aiden has been on the team for 7 or 8 years now and nobody, Rochy included, seems to know if he's best placed at midfield, or at 10 or 14.
Wouldn't happen in the Dandy. ;D
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 18, 2016, 11:36:29 PM
Quote from: highorlow on March 18, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
Some of the Rossie posts on here are an embarrassment. St.Patrick's day is barely passed and anyone would think they are now the new kings of football.
Go out and have a few beers lads, enjoy these few moments in the sun. Return and gloat all ye want if ye win Connacht.
p.s having many friends and relations Rossies I'll be the 1st to support ye if/when we are out, but try and keep the banter to just banter. We are all Westies after all.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. No problem saying so. I've no problem with any of the Rossie posters here either- a bit of craic and nothing personal.
However, I do meet a few of their fellow-countrymen and you'd swear they have Sam in the bag already. Now, I know they are not a representative cross-section of fans but I do remind them of Sligo and Fermanagh just a few short years ago.
Pride goes before a fall and all that sort of stuff.
If the players buy into this crap, they'll be in for a nasty shock. Ross has the best chance in years to win Connacht lkif hey don't lose the run of themselves..
I'm worried about Mayo. No doubt they are training with August in mind but tactically they are as clueless as they were when Horan was in charge. Still no idea how best to utilise Aiden O'Shea's strengths and that's only for starters. When you think of how easily Donaghy with O'Donoghue feeding off him, wrecked our chances in Limerick, I don't think it takes rocket science to set up a similar plan of action for Mayo. Trouble is that Kerry's midfielders and half forwards could find Donaghy every time with long, precision passes while their Mayo counterparts couldn't hit a barn door with a shovel.
Aiden has been on the team for 7 or 8 years now and nobody, Rochy included, seems to know if he's best placed at midfield, or at 10 or 14.
Wouldn't happen in the Dandy. ;D
Cruel Lar, cruel !!
I've no doubt that Rochford - and every body else - knows that Aiden best position is midfield. That's the easy thing to do with him, but is that the best thing for the team going forward. We ve others - Gibbons, Parsons, Barry and Seamie - that would walk into most teams at midfield. Aiden can damage further up. Play him in midfield and it means not playing others that may not be able to contribute further up.
Rochford is the coach. He's got these long spring and summer evenings to set things up. The reality is he has more to work with than most going into the championship.
Mayo 10/11 , Roscommon 11/10, draw 15/2 .
What's the biggest league crowd outside of croke park in history ?
Fair point on the media. The papers have gone mad on ye alright. Full page again in today's times and Tis a hurling weekend. It's ironic that the media focus with Ross has completely distracted from our own internal mutiny. I expected papers to be having a cut off our players every week with every loss, hasn't happened yet anyhow.
Quote from: highorlow on March 19, 2016, 11:16:07 AM
Fair point on the media. The papers have gone mad on ye alright. Full page again in today's times and Tis a hurling weekend. It's ironic that the media focus with Ross has completely distracted from our own internal mutiny. I expected papers to be having a cut off our players every week with every loss, hasn't happened yet anyhow.
I'm not sure how the media can ignore it though , they have been sensational in the league ,they are not just winning games they are blitzing teams and their first year in dv one too . Will the media be hard on them if they crumble in the summer ahead , who knows and more to the point will they crumble at all ?
Iam just enjoying this every game from here is a bonus win lose or draw. It's up to these players now how far they want to we can't do anything but watch and enjoy
Quote from: Kurtz on March 19, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
Iam just enjoying this every game from here is a bonus win lose or draw. It's up to these players now how far they want to we can't do anything but watch and enjoy
Every game from here in the league is a bonus win lose or draw! ;)
Quote from: larryin89 on March 19, 2016, 11:11:24 AM
Mayo 10/11 , Roscommon 11/10, draw 15/2 .
Odds about right. Roscommon have secured their division one status and could still reach the semi finals if they lose their remaining games. For Mayo it's a must win game. Lose or draw and you are left looking for favours elsewhere. Whatever some supporters say I don't think this new Mayo management will want to be the ones in charge of the side that has lost their long standing division one status.
The last time the Roscommon senior team played at the Hyde was March 29th 2015 when we played Galway in the second last round of the league. Crazy to think an entire year has passed since a county last played at its home ground.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 19, 2016, 01:16:30 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 19, 2016, 11:11:24 AM
Mayo 10/11 , Roscommon 11/10, draw 15/2 .
Odds about right. Roscommon have secured their division one status and could still reach the semi finals if they lose their remaining games. For Mayo it's a must win game. Lose or draw and you are left looking for favours elsewhere. Whatever some supporters say I don't think this new Mayo management will want to be the ones in charge of the side that has lost their long standing division one status.
Going to be relegated anyway imo, I for the life of me don't understand the way most people are saying we can survive if we win our last two games , our scoring diff is -16 , our head to head is only good with Monaghan . We need an awful to go our way to end up head to head with Monaghan plus their two games are at home , cork to beat down and lose to Kerry then it's a three way which we will most likely go down on scoring diff , if it's cork on head to head we go down.
And that's why pp have us at 4/6 favs to join down in div 2 next year and the David Brady's of Twitter land who most likely failed his maths exam are touting us to stay up.
Call me crazy, but I don't think that Mayo dropping down to Div 2, will be as big a catastrophe as some people predict. If you are good enough to make it to the AI semi final or final, every year this decade, then you are a bloody good team, regardless of how shitty your Springs are. Kerry usually have to break their boll0x every year to avoid relegation. Doesn't matter a damm come August and September.
A recent stint in Div 2 didn't do Donegal any harm. We'll probably be saying the same thing about Tyrone, in a few months time. A rookie manager, could do without the fallout from being relegated, but in the grand scheme of things, it may not be the total disaster some people predict.
Quote from: Beffs on March 19, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Call me crazy, but I don't think that Mayo dropping down to Div 2, will be as big a catastrophe as some people predict. If you are good enough to make it to the AI semi final or final, every year this decade, then you are a bloody good team, regardless of how shitty your Springs are. Kerry usually have to break their boll0x every year to avoid relegation. Doesn't matter a damm come August and September.
A recent stint in Div 2 didn't do Donegal any harm. We'll probably be saying the same thing about Tyrone, in a few months time. A rookie manager, could do without the fallout from being relegated, but in the grand scheme of things, it may not be the total disaster some people predict.
They switched managers from a team that got them to an AISF replay against the best team in decades. So they set their target at winning the AI this year and nothing has suggested that is even a realistic goal for this management or team. This team gave themselves next to no room for error with their behaviour so of course the alarm bells will be ringing loud if their high-powered management team's first act is crashing into Division 2 for the first time in two decades.
That mgt team that got them to an AISF replay against the best team in decades (think Kerry and Tyrone might have an opinion on that btw) in their first year in charge. They did that, even though they were supposed to be useless, if you believe the players and a lot of Mayo people. What is to say that this rookie mgt team, can not do just as good, if not better? That is all that matters. Not what happens from January to April.
Mayo going crashing down into Div for the first time in decades, sounds very dramatic. But look at their actual history during all those years that they were in Division one. When was the last time they won it, or appeared in the final? They seem perfectly content to finish in 5th or 6th place most years. Dropping down to 7th place - and therefore getting relegated - is not as massive a departure for them, as it may appear. It's not like they win the thing every year.
Quote from: Beffs on March 19, 2016, 09:05:24 PM
That mgt team that got them to an AISF replay against the best team in decades (think Kerry and Tyrone might have an opinion on that btw) in their first year in charge. They did that, even though they were supposed to be useless, if you believe the players and a lot of Mayo people. What is to say that this rookie mgt team, can not do just as good, if not better? That is all that matters. Not what happens from January to April.
Mayo going crashing down into Div for the first time in decades, sounds very dramatic. But look at their actual history during all those years that they were in Division one. When was the last time they won it, or appeared in the final? They seem perfectly content to finish in 5th or 6th place most years. Dropping down to 7th place - and therefore getting relegated - is not as massive a departure for them, as it may appear. It's not like they win the thing every year.
Kerry or Tyrone can have whatever opinions they want to. That Dublin team simply is the best team to come about since O'Dwyer's Kerry.
I'm not sure where we are at and I don't think anyone else is TBH , although I'd be in the camp of its not lookin good . Have certain players targeted summer peak only because of the mileage they have clocked up these last five years , or is it just the obvious end of an era phase pundits like Tommy Carr are getting great pleasure in voicing ?
Next Sunday week will tell us more for sure ,i can see it being a real high intensity game for a league match for all the obvious reasons but it's very difficult to see how we are going to coma away with a victory unless there is a massive improvement .
I backed Roscommon today to win Connacht , I thought long and hard all week about it and I reached the conclusion it's a win win bet . If it's a winner it will cheer me up a bit next July and if it's a loser I'll be the happiest man in Castlebar .(that's if we beat Galway though)
Quote from: Syferus on March 19, 2016, 09:15:13 PM
Kerry or Tyrone can have whatever opinions they want to. That Dublin team simply is the best team to come about since O'Dwyer's Kerry.
Kerry have been in 10 or 11 AI finals this millennium. They won 6 of them. Dublin have been in 3 and won 3. If they want to be considered the best team in decades, Dublin will have to put up much better numbers than those. They may very well be on the way to doing so, but they aren't there yet
Quote from: Syferus on March 19, 2016, 01:42:09 PM
The last time the Roscommon senior team played at the Hyde was March 29th 2015 when we played Galway in the second last round of the league. Crazy to think an entire year has passed since a county last played at its home ground.
Ah sure poor oul Dublin haven't played at home in Parnell Pk in years ::) ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on March 20, 2016, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 19, 2016, 01:42:09 PM
The last time the Roscommon senior team played at the Hyde was March 29th 2015 when we played Galway in the second last round of the league. Crazy to think an entire year has passed since a county last played at its home ground.
Ah sure poor oul Dublin haven't played at home in Parnell Pk in years ::) ;D
Last time Roscommon played Dublin in.Parnell Park they won. Correct me if wrong
2002 when we were " the pin up boys of Gaelic football". ;D
Maurice Deegan is reffing the game.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 21, 2016, 12:15:28 AM
Maurice Deegan is reffing the game.
At least it's not Marty or the Larry.
Live on TG4 too. Jaysis for a team who can't play Saturday night games at home at all (so no chance of Setanta coverage) we're not doing too badly with the matches.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 20, 2016, 07:22:15 PM
2002 when we were " the pin up boys of Gaelic football". ;D
That team fizzled out, didn't it? I suppose 2001 was a sucker punch
there is a line in one of the Galway videos in Laochra Gael where someone I think it was Ja Fallon
says "there was no way Roscommon were going to beat us twice"
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2016, 04:21:08 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 20, 2016, 07:22:15 PM
2002 when we were " the pin up boys of Gaelic football". ;D
That team fizzled out, didn't it? I suppose 2001 was a sucker punch
there is a line in one of the Galway videos in Laochra Gael where someone I think it was Ja Fallon
says "there was no way Roscommon were going to beat us twice"
They didn't even beat us once over 140 minutes in 1998. Galway lads have always been good at posturing.
Quote from: Syferus on March 21, 2016, 05:01:37 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2016, 04:21:08 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 20, 2016, 07:22:15 PM
2002 when we were " the pin up boys of Gaelic football". ;D
That team fizzled out, didn't it? I suppose 2001 was a sucker punch
there is a line in one of the Galway videos in Laochra Gael where someone I think it was Ja Fallon
says "there was no way Roscommon were going to beat us twice"
They didn't even beat us once over 140 minutes in 1998. Galway lads have always been good at posturing.
But even better at winning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS94zRxJfKc
Ros have to step up to the plate now
Quote from: larryin89 on March 19, 2016, 09:28:26 PM
I'm not sure where we are at and I don't think anyone else is TBH , although I'd be in the camp of its not lookin good . Have certain players targeted summer peak only because of the mileage they have clocked up these last five years , or is it just the obvious end of an era phase pundits like Tommy Carr are getting great pleasure in voicing ?
Next Sunday week will tell us more for sure ,i can see it being a real high intensity game for a league match for all the obvious reasons but it's very difficult to see how we are going to coma away with a victory unless there is a massive improvement .
I backed Roscommon today to win Connacht , I thought long and hard all week about it and I reached the conclusion it's a win win bet . If it's a winner it will cheer me up a bit next July and if it's a loser I'll be the happiest man in Castlebar .(that's if we beat Galway though)
It's only the league, Larry. Mayo are very streetwise and have experience that nobody else in the province has. I think it is too early to write them off.
Quote from: Syferus on March 21, 2016, 05:01:37 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2016, 04:21:08 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 20, 2016, 07:22:15 PM
2002 when we were " the pin up boys of Gaelic football". ;D
That team fizzled out, didn't it? I suppose 2001 was a sucker punch
there is a line in one of the Galway videos in Laochra Gael where someone I think it was Ja Fallon
says "there was no way Roscommon were going to beat us twice"
They didn't even beat us once over 140 minutes in 1998. Galway lads have always been good at posturing.
You always have an answer for everything don't ya. A little dig at Mayo or Galway in every single thread. Tiresome. Get that chip off the shoulder there good lad
Quote from: galwayman on March 21, 2016, 12:20:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 21, 2016, 05:01:37 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2016, 04:21:08 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 20, 2016, 07:22:15 PM
2002 when we were " the pin up boys of Gaelic football". ;D
That team fizzled out, didn't it? I suppose 2001 was a sucker punch
there is a line in one of the Galway videos in Laochra Gael where someone I think it was Ja Fallon
says "there was no way Roscommon were going to beat us twice"
They didn't even beat us once over 140 minutes in 1998. Galway lads have always been good at posturing.
You always have an answer for everything don't ya. A little dig at Mayo or Galway in every single thread. Tiresome. Get that chip off the shoulder there good lad
You'd want to read the sequence of what you quoted before you say I was the one taking a dig.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 20, 2016, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 20, 2016, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 19, 2016, 01:42:09 PM
The last time the Roscommon senior team played at the Hyde was March 29th 2015 when we played Galway in the second last round of the league. Crazy to think an entire year has passed since a county last played at its home ground.
Ah sure poor oul Dublin haven't played at home in Parnell Pk in years ::) ;D
Last time Roscommon played Dublin in.Parnell Park they won. Correct me if wrong
You are wrong I am afraid, the last time in Parnell Park was in April 2008 when an already relegated Roscommon were trounced by Dublin in NFL 2 game, think Paul Earley may have been the caretaker manager as it was after the abrupt departure of John Maughan the previous week and the now infamous customer comments.
Jeeeeeesus but those were depressing days :( :'(
that was one horrible NFL campaign.
I have a feeling the rossies could play a weakened team. I'd imagine McStay will be more concerned with keeping his cards close to his chest before the championship than relegating us.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 21, 2016, 05:27:24 PM
I have a feeling the rossies could play a weakened team. I'd imagine McStay will be more concerned with keeping his cards close to his chest before the championship than relegating us.
I don't think you have heard about the amount of injuries we have. I last counted about 8-10 players who have yet to feature this year that most would have considered locks for the match-day 26. Coming into this year Donie and Cathal Shine, Kevin Higgins, Ultan Harney, Diarmuid Murtagh and David Keenan and Niall Carty would have been all considered championship starters and big players for us but have not played at all this year while only Cathal and Ultan have had any minutes. Ian Kilbride suffered a hamstring injury the last day so our already decimated midfield (no established midfielders even before that injury) was worsened. We don't have a whole lot of options to be fiddling with.
Best I can see is maybe Cathal Compton, Ultan Harney and Diarmuid Murtagh featuring. And I don't think those two players will really be weakening the team, Murtagh and Harney are two of our best forwards and Compton might be our best underage prospect in the middle for a while. Sean Mullooly was absolutely excellent for the U21s on Saturday but it'd be surprising if he gets anything more than sub time given he's only back into the reckoning and has never played a minute at senior yet.
People are praising us but I'm just amazed we're competitive given how limited our options have been. We're playing counties with so many more players to choose from. The most heartening thing coming out of the league is the fact the team has demonstrated the depth that we'd long hoped was there. It's up the the lads coming back to do their part if they want to get a spot on the team again.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 21, 2016, 05:27:24 PM
I have a feeling the rossies could play a weakened team. I'd imagine McStay will be more concerned with keeping his cards close to his chest before the championship than relegating us.
If the boot was on the other foot with Mayo on 8 points and Roscommon on 2 points I think Rochford would start to rest key players and wouldn't want to show much if any of his hand before championship.
Mayo have a great record in Hyde park the last decade and the fact Mayo need the win more than Roscommon and will be close to full strength it's a game Mayo should and probably will win on Sunday.
McStay's philosophy is to go out and win every game no matter what the contest and this will be no different.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 21, 2016, 05:17:17 PM
Jeeeeeesus but those were depressing days :( :'(
that was one horrible NFL campaign.
My favourite league campaign of all time, that was the year we beat all around us.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 21, 2016, 05:27:24 PM
I have a feeling the rossies could play a weakened team. I'd imagine McStay will be more concerned with keeping his cards close to his chest before the championship than relegating us.
Rossies are peaking very early and Mayo are improving steadily. If Ross held back and lost this one it might be a smart move?
Quote from: ck on March 22, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 21, 2016, 05:27:24 PM
I have a feeling the rossies could play a weakened team. I'd imagine McStay will be more concerned with keeping his cards close to his chest before the championship than relegating us.
Rossies are peaking very early and Mayo are improving steadily. If Ross held back and lost this one it might be a smart move?
I've seen nothing to suggest Mayo are improving steadily.
Don't think Ros are in a position to ease up, it would be no bad thing for a team that are looking to take over as their province's dominant team to beat the current one. Ross should push maintain their momentum and try and win the league from here. A young talented team like Roscommon are better off riding the wave IMO than trying to be too smart. Besides, it's training that needs to be managed to maintain a team's ability to peak multiple times. I can't see any advantage for Roscommon to run the bench against Mayo.
Fintan Cregg very doubtful for Sunday, sustained a back injury v Donegal and may not make it, hearing rumours that there will be changes for Sunday, maybe mayo4sam post may not be far off the mark.
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 22, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
Fintan Cregg very doubtful for Sunday, sustained a back injury v Donegal and may not make it, hearing rumours that there will be changes for Sunday, maybe mayo4sam post may not be far off the mark.
A bonus for Mayo if arguably Roscommons best player this year misses out. No need for Roscommon to risk any player that is doubtful this Sunday.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 22, 2016, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 22, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
Fintan Cregg very doubtful for Sunday, sustained a back injury v Donegal and may not make it, hearing rumours that there will be changes for Sunday, maybe mayo4sam post may not be far off the mark.
A bonus for Mayo if arguably Roscommons best player this year misses out. No need for Roscommon to risk any player that is doubtful this Sunday.
Even if it was a critical match this mangement wouldn't be risking an unfit player. The common sense they're showing is refreshing.
Ros would be silly o ease up at this stage for 2 reason
firstly there is a league title in this ofr them if they want it . they are the form team with momentum and it would means more to the than say dublin Kerry
secondly if you turn off the engine it may not be as easy to start it again as you'd like. There is a lot of emotional energy being created by Roscommons run . without it they would probably show up in their true colours of being an average side
Quote from: rosnarun on March 22, 2016, 03:36:48 PM
Ros would be silly o ease up at this stage for 2 reason
firstly there is a league title in this ofr them if they want it . they are the form team with momentum and it would means more to the than say dublin Kerry
secondly if you turn off the engine it may not be as easy to start it again as you'd like. There is a lot of emotional energy being created by Roscommons run . without it they would probably show up in their true colours of being an average side
Better than being a sub-average side in danger of relegation I guess.
Quote from: rosnarun on March 22, 2016, 03:36:48 PM
Ros would be silly o ease up at this stage for 2 reason
firstly there is a league title in this ofr them if they want it . they are the form team with momentum and it would means more to the than say dublin Kerry
secondly if you turn off the engine it may not be as easy to start it again as you'd like. There is a lot of emotional energy being created by Roscommons run . without it they would probably show up in their true colours of being an average side
Could be a case made Roscommon are just showing their true colours now under new management and were made look average in their recent championship defeats. For as well as Roscommon are playing it's the Dubs that are top of the league with 100% record and they also have the best defensive record. It's Dublins league title to lose.
There is no waiting in the long grass, there is only the greater glory of Ros.
Roscelona don't go out to play under the radar.
Straight outta Roscompton Mayo need to be with the points....
Quote from: muppet on March 22, 2016, 04:27:52 PM
There is no waiting in the long grass, there is only the greater glory of Ros.
Roscelona don't go out to play under the radar.
Mayo could be under the table the radar is on and you'd still hear them complaining about their management.
Do the Ros-Blacks sweep the Hyde after them?
Given their was so much talk about the effects of relegation from Division 1 earlier in the thread and there was mention of the spendingof teams, I thought the article below was of interest.
I know it's related to hurling, but I'd imagine the same holds true for football, in there being a serious financial cost to teams being outside Division 1.
I remember hearing a few years back that there was a significant cash on offer as well for those teams who did well in Division 1 league finals - I think it might have been €25k for a semi-final space , €40k for getting to the final and €50k for winning it.[Wonder if the money for getting to the finals will be bumped up with the semi-finals being done away with] It was probably at least 5 years back and I'm not 100% sure of the figures but I remember being shocked at the time at how much was available given it was "only the league"
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/life-outside-top-tier-costs-limerick-700000-388776.html
Quote from: muppet on March 22, 2016, 04:27:52 PM
There is no waiting in the long grass, there is only the greater glory of Ros.
Roscelona don't go out to play under the radar.
Classic. ;)
Some right oul gallows humour from the Rhubarbeens :o
Must be expecting a hammering.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 22, 2016, 04:50:33 PM
Do the Ros-Blacks sweep the Hyde after them?
How's Division 4 looking for next year?
Has your county chairman still got his throne?
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2016, 07:28:31 PM
Some right oul gallows humour from the Rhubarbeens :o
Must be expecting a hammering.
I'd be surprised if it were anything else other than a defeat for us and furthermore I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can be surprised at such a forecast .
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2016, 07:28:31 PM
Some right oul gallows humour from the Rhubarbeens :o
Must be expecting a hammering.
We are. Now what are Roscommon people predicting?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 22, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2016, 07:28:31 PM
Some right oul gallows humour from the Rhubarbeens :o
Must be expecting a hammering.
We are. Now what are Roscommon people predicting?
World domination. The Rossie hordes are at the gates.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 22, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2016, 07:28:31 PM
Some right oul gallows humour from the Rhubarbeens :o
Must be expecting a hammering.
We are. Now what are Roscommon people predicting?
The Herald says a draw.
I care way more about the U21 match.
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 08:36:16 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 22, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2016, 07:28:31 PM
Some right oul gallows humour from the Rhubarbeens :o
Must be expecting a hammering.
We are. Now what are Roscommon people predicting?
The Herald says a draw.
I care way more about the U21 match.
So do I! Sundays game means nothing in the scheme of things. The Under 21 final is a Connacht title and one game way from an AI final for who ever wins.
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27526-roscommon-game-is-massive-for-mayo-says-david-brady
Oh yes, David. The focus will be on Roscommon and not the county going for six-in-a-row who got rid of their managers via player power and set the bar for the year at AI or bust.
Any raft in a storm seems to be the attitude in some quarters, no matter how off-the-wall.
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 08:49:11 PM
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27526-roscommon-game-is-massive-for-mayo-says-david-brady
Oh yes, David. The focus will be on Roscommon and not the county going for six-in-a-row who got rid of their managers via player power and set the bar for the year at AI or bust.
Any raft in a storm seems to be the attitude in some quarters, no matter how off-the-wall.
Would you normally scour the Mayo media? I actually couldn't tell you what the paper is called in Roscommon....or even if there is one?
Quote from: ballinaman on March 22, 2016, 08:55:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 08:49:11 PM
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27526-roscommon-game-is-massive-for-mayo-says-david-brady
Oh yes, David. The focus will be on Roscommon and not the county going for six-in-a-row who got rid of their managers via player power and set the bar for the year at AI or bust.
Any raft in a storm seems to be the attitude in some quarters, no matter how off-the-wall.
Would you normally scour the Mayo media? I actually couldn't tell you what the paper is called in Roscommon....or even if there is one?
D. Brady is a nationally published columnist, with his Sunday World column sitting comfortably alongside such luminaries as Pat Spillane and Roy Curtis.
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 09:44:21 PM
D. Brady is a nationally published columnist, with his Sunday World column sitting comfortably alongside such luminaries as Pat Spillane and Roy Curtis.
Christ but that's one godawful lineup, even for the Sunday World. Shudder
Quote from: ballinaman on March 22, 2016, 08:55:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 08:49:11 PM
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27526-roscommon-game-is-massive-for-mayo-says-david-brady
Oh yes, David. The focus will be on Roscommon and not the county going for six-in-a-row who got rid of their managers via player power and set the bar for the year at AI or bust.
Any raft in a storm seems to be the attitude in some quarters, no matter how off-the-wall.
Would you normally scour the Mayo media? I actually couldn't tell you what the paper is called in Roscommon....or even if there is one?
When you have alegences to both counties like Syferus does of course you are going to scour the Mayo.media. I bet he goes to bed every night with the Mayo news and western people.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on March 22, 2016, 06:52:38 PM
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There is no waiting in the long grass, there is only the greater glory of Ros.
Roscelona don't go out to play under the radar.
Classic. ;)
+1
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 22, 2016, 10:27:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 09:44:21 PM
D. Brady is a nationally published columnist, with his Sunday World column sitting comfortably alongside such luminaries as Pat Spillane and Roy Curtis.
Christ but that's one godawful lineup, even for the Sunday World. Shudder
Can't believe DB has stooped so low. There was a time he stood for normal off-the-cuff daftness !!
Quote from: moysider on March 22, 2016, 11:39:42 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 22, 2016, 10:27:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 09:44:21 PM
D. Brady is a nationally published columnist, with his Sunday World column sitting comfortably alongside such luminaries as Pat Spillane and Roy Curtis.
Christ but that's one godawful lineup, even for the Sunday World. Shudder
Can't believe DB has stooped so low. There was a time he stood for normal off-the-cuff daftness !!
Kinda of miss him as co -commentator, it was a mix of funny stupidity/cringe worthiness,
Daftness may be nicest way to describe it.
I digress, but there are a lot of former players that I feel get a bad dose of verbal diarrhea when a camera is put in front of them.
Do season ticket holders have to use the Golf Links road or the main Athlone road for thia game?
Roscommon team is named...G Claffey / S mc Dermott, N Collins, N Mc Inerney / C Daly S Purcell D Murray /E Smith N Daly / F Cregg C Murtagh C Devaney / C Connolly S Kilbride C Cregg.
hardly missing the 9 regulars being spouted here ???
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 23, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
hardly missing the 9 regulars being spouted here ???
If that team was to actually start we would be missing exactly eight championship starters from last year (I left out Ciaran Caffreky above who suffered a cruciate injury late last year that's likely to rule him out for the entire season) entirely, nine if you include our starting keeper from last year who's on the bench after suffering an injury mid-season. Ian Kilbride, another championship starter is on the bench after being injured in training two weeks ago. We also have three or four other panel members injured or just back from injury and not being considered yet.
So yeah, I'm dead on. I'd wonder how well Mayo would be coping without 2/3s of their established team. What it really puts paid to is the notion we're peaking too early, a nonsense notion at the best of times.
Those who claim to be " in the know" say that's the team given to the programme printers and there will be changes by Sunday.
We'll see and sure ya have ta listen to thunder.
Syfín - there are a few players now on the team who are better than a lot if your missing 8/9.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 02:49:31 PM
Those who claim to be " in the know" say that's the team given to the programme printers and there will be changes by Sunday.
We'll see and sure ya have ta listen to thunder.
Syfín - there are a few players now on the team who are better than a lot if your missing 8/9.
Only Fintan Cregg and Devanney would be a definite improvement over who was starting last year. And then the players they'd be replacing in the HF line would be in with just as much a shout to start in the HB line too. Niall Mc emerging in the FB line may allow Carty to compete for CHB if the poor lad can get right. If Purcell is ever injured we're back to square one there.
U-21 players, Ronan Daly and Diarmuid Murtagh are named among the subs.
Purcell, McInerney and more regular use of Davy Murray has certainly improved our previously porous "defence" of wannabe attackers.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 04:59:12 PM
Purcell, McInerney and more regular use of Davy Murray has certainly improved our previously porous "defence" of wannabe attackers.
Davy was getting plenty of time last year. Getting carded way too much was what was costing him big time. Sure he had to sit out a league match because he got three blacks before the league was done. Got carded at least once this year but he's improved his discipline in the tackle. Beyond brave, to the point he looks like he'd rather get a boot into the head than let a pass through sometimes. Really don't see him being ahead of David Keenan and it's a wash with him and Caff who would probably be one of our better HBs for actually defending and also has popped up for more than a few big scores going forward too. Davy's ultimate destiny for me is to take the #2 jersey whenever Seanie Mac decides he's had enough. It's praise enough to say he's good enough to fill the boots of one of our all-time greats. But I hope we're a couple years off that yet.
Keenan and Cafferky can't defend. :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 06:20:38 PM
Keenan and Cafferky can't defend. :-\
Keenan is probably our best HB. I really don't know what games you've been watching. You praise our most persistent fouler but throw two more disciplined players under the bus.
Ahhhh Syfín discipline is grand but defending is vital .
Them 2 lads and the Dalys are all wannabe attackers who can't defend.
We have a better defence now and when Mullooly steps up we'll have an even better one.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Ahhhh Syfín discipline is grand but defending is vital .
Them 2 lads and the Dalys are all wannabe attackers who can't defend.
We have a better defence now and when Mullooly steps up we'll have an even better one.
If you think Sean is going to sit back defending you've another thing coming. Never seen a FB run up the field so much in my life. Again throwing players under the bus and the ones you praise are hardly any different.
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2016, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Ahhhh Syfín discipline is grand but defending is vital .
Them 2 lads and the Dalys are all wannabe attackers who can't defend.
We have a better defence now and when Mullooly steps up we'll have an even better one.
If you think Sean is going to sit back defending you've another thing coming. Never seen a FB run up the field so much in my life. Again throwing players under the bus and the ones you praise are hardly any different.
Ah but isn't it a lovely bus to be thrown under...
Quote from: Tubberman on March 23, 2016, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2016, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Ahhhh Syfín discipline is grand but defending is vital .
Them 2 lads and the Dalys are all wannabe attackers who can't defend.
We have a better defence now and when Mullooly steps up we'll have an even better one.
If you think Sean is going to sit back defending you've another thing coming. Never seen a FB run up the field so much in my life. Again throwing players under the bus and the ones you praise are hardly any different.
Ah but isn't it a lovely bus to be thrown under...
€18 million blown on a stadium. Then bailed out.
13 pages 3 days before a league match is impressive.
You can only imagine the reverberations if Mayo rhubarb ghu lose
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 24, 2016, 08:39:04 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on March 23, 2016, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2016, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Ahhhh Syfín discipline is grand but defending is vital .
Them 2 lads and the Dalys are all wannabe attackers who can't defend.
We have a better defence now and when Mullooly steps up we'll have an even better one.
If you think Sean is going to sit back defending you've another thing coming. Never seen a FB run up the field so much in my life. Again throwing players under the bus and the ones you praise are hardly any different.
Ah but isn't it a lovely bus to be thrown under...
€18 million blown on a stadium. Then bailed out.
Wrong on both counts , it was actually €20 million blown to build our monument to the celtic tiger ;D but unlike everyone else from that era we didn't get bailed out after :'(.
Really do believe we are building ourselves up for a fall this Sunday.
While we have improved in a lot of areas we have to take into context where other teams in the division are at and I firmly believe that some of these teams took the field against us with an intensity and attitude that didn't show us any respect to be honest and thus allowed us sometimes easy rides.For example I could not understand how off the pace in the first half Donegal were and they played that first half with a very lax attitude.Compare that to the second half where they absolutely blitzed us and only for the sending off I believe we would have ended up losing the game.
We have played very well in all the games this year but this false dawn s**t of the new force in Connacht is so annoying when all we done is won a few games in the league.No disrespect to new York,London or Leitrim we haven't won a Connacht championship game of any note since 2010 and that was against a good Sligo team who if had maybe been fully focused on the job in hand might have beaten us.We haven't beaten Mayo in Connacht championship in 15 years lads wake up and smell the coffee.
We seem to hold way too much regard for Connacht Minor and U21 titles now than Senior which in fairness are great to get but Senior is where it is at and until we translate that into results and achievements at that level we have nothing to be getting brave about.
I'm sick going to different grounds over the years getting our asses handed to us come championship time after false dawns in the league.
Ill enjoy the league success as much as the next man but until its translated into championship results and achievements its only like the oul fella cooking sunday roast when the oul wans away edible but soon forgotten.
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 24, 2016, 09:44:41 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 24, 2016, 08:39:04 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on March 23, 2016, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2016, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Ahhhh Syfín discipline is grand but defending is vital .
Them 2 lads and the Dalys are all wannabe attackers who can't defend.
We have a better defence now and when Mullooly steps up we'll have an even better one.
If you think Sean is going to sit back defending you've another thing coming. Never seen a FB run up the field so much in my life. Again throwing players under the bus and the ones you praise are hardly any different.
Ah but isn't it a lovely bus to be thrown under...
€18 million blown on a stadium. Then bailed out.
Wrong on both counts , it was actually €20 million blown to build our monument to the celtic tiger ;D but unlike everyone else from that era we didn't get bailed out after :'(.
You would think after the last few years that people would understand what a bailout actually is. It isn't getting anything for free, or written off. In most cases it means austerity.
Quote from: theyellowbus on March 24, 2016, 11:36:28 AM
Really do believe we are building ourselves up for a fall this Sunday.
While we have improved in a lot of areas we have to take into context where other teams in the division are at and I firmly believe that some of these teams took the field against us with an intensity and attitude that didn't show us any respect to be honest and thus allowed us sometimes easy rides.For example I could not understand how off the pace in the first half Donegal were and they played that first half with a very lax attitude.Compare that to the second half where they absolutely blitzed us and only for the sending off I believe we would have ended up losing the game.
We have played very well in all the games this year but this false dawn s**t of the new force in Connacht is so annoying when all we done is won a few games in the league.No disrespect to new York,London or Leitrim we haven't won a Connacht championship game of any note since 2010 and that was against a good Sligo team who if had maybe been fully focused on the job in hand might have beaten us.We haven't beaten Mayo in Connacht championship in 15 years lads wake up and smell the coffee.
We seem to hold way too much regard for Connacht Minor and U21 titles now than Senior which in fairness are great to get but Senior is where it is at and until we translate that into results and achievements at that level we have nothing to be getting brave about.
I'm sick going to different grounds over the years getting our asses handed to us come championship time after false dawns in the league.
Ill enjoy the league success as much as the next man but until its translated into championship results and achievements its only like the oul fella cooking sunday roast when the oul wans away edible but soon forgotten.
Who is building us up???
Mayo are favorites to win this Sunday and will continue to be favorites every day they play Ross until we can prove we can match them on a consistent basis.
Paddy Power have it
Mayo 4/5 Ross 5/4 Draw 15/2 which are bang on odds for this game in my book.
Only someone who started following Ross in the last 2 months would make us favorites for this game
Quote from: theyellowbus on March 24, 2016, 11:36:28 AM
Really do believe we are building ourselves up for a fall this Sunday.
While we have improved in a lot of areas we have to take into context where other teams in the division are at and I firmly believe that some of these teams took the field against us with an intensity and attitude that didn't show us any respect to be honest and thus allowed us sometimes easy rides.For example I could not understand how off the pace in the first half Donegal were and they played that first half with a very lax attitude.Compare that to the second half where they absolutely blitzed us and only for the sending off I believe we would have ended up losing the game.
We have played very well in all the games this year but this false dawn s**t of the new force in Connacht is so annoying when all we done is won a few games in the league.No disrespect to new York,London or Leitrim we haven't won a Connacht championship game of any note since 2010 and that was against a good Sligo team who if had maybe been fully focused on the job in hand might have beaten us.We haven't beaten Mayo in Connacht championship in 15 years lads wake up and smell the coffee.
We seem to hold way too much regard for Connacht Minor and U21 titles now than Senior which in fairness are great to get but Senior is where it is at and until we translate that into results and achievements at that level we have nothing to be getting brave about.
I'm sick going to different grounds over the years getting our asses handed to us come championship time after false dawns in the league.
Ill enjoy the league success as much as the next man but until its translated into championship results and achievements its only like the oul fella cooking sunday roast when the oul wans away edible but soon forgotten.
No one is building anyone up in the county. Can't believe you'd be so blinded not to see that. The people doing the talking are Mayo people and journalists.
Quote from: muppet on March 24, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 24, 2016, 09:44:41 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 24, 2016, 08:39:04 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on March 23, 2016, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2016, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Ahhhh Syfín discipline is grand but defending is vital .
Them 2 lads and the Dalys are all wannabe attackers who can't defend.
We have a better defence now and when Mullooly steps up we'll have an even better one.
If you think Sean is going to sit back defending you've another thing coming. Never seen a FB run up the field so much in my life. Again throwing players under the bus and the ones you praise are hardly any different.
Ah but isn't it a lovely bus to be thrown under...
€18 million blown on a stadium. Then bailed out.
Wrong on both counts , it was actually €20 million blown to build our monument to the celtic tiger ;D but unlike everyone else from that era we didn't get bailed out after :'(.
You would think after the last few years that people would understand what a bailout actually is. It isn't getting anything for free, or written off. In most cases it means austerity.
Well I took the meaning of bail out in this case to mean Mayo got favourable treatment and would somehow not pay any of the debt to keep the county afloat when in fact all the supposed bail out for Mayo consisted of was a lengthening of the term of the loan to 25 years which meant a short term gain for Mayo GAA of ,a lower annual loan repayment leading to lower running costs , but a higher interest charge on top of the principal(greater than the original loan bill!!!!) meaning long term a bigger debt , all which has still to be payed back by Mayo Gaa by whatever means ( county income/donations/fundraisers/cost cutting to underage coaching/county team preparation etc...) so not a great bail out in my opinion ;D ;D!!!
Anyway back to the real business , I think the Rossies will get the first great day in the sun against Mayo of the McStay/O'Donnell era by giving us a bit of a trimming thus relegating us on the brand new Hyde Park surface!!! Under John Evans they did seem to struggle in the games they were expected to win ( Sligo in the championship last year) or against provincial rivals which they were at least as strong as (Galway in the league last year) but I think they look a lot more comfortable in their skin due to the experience of McStay/O'Donnell/McHale.
Looking from the outside in, the Rossies seem to be concentrating on their own performance not results since the Monaghan game with the results coming as a result of , not despite the team's performance as in it's not as if they playing conservatively, are hanging in and scraping one point wins or winning because of the opposition kicking a million wides etc... (Although looking at our forwards to date we could very well kick a million wides against them if we can get our hands on the ball that is!!!!)
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 24, 2016, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 24, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 24, 2016, 09:44:41 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 24, 2016, 08:39:04 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on March 23, 2016, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2016, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Ahhhh Syfín discipline is grand but defending is vital .
Them 2 lads and the Dalys are all wannabe attackers who can't defend.
We have a better defence now and when Mullooly steps up we'll have an even better one.
If you think Sean is going to sit back defending you've another thing coming. Never seen a FB run up the field so much in my life. Again throwing players under the bus and the ones you praise are hardly any different.
Ah but isn't it a lovely bus to be thrown under...
€18 million blown on a stadium. Then bailed out.
Wrong on both counts , it was actually €20 million blown to build our monument to the celtic tiger ;D but unlike everyone else from that era we didn't get bailed out after :'(.
You would think after the last few years that people would understand what a bailout actually is. It isn't getting anything for free, or written off. In most cases it means austerity.
Well I took the meaning of bail out in this case to mean Mayo got favourable treatment and would somehow not pay any of the debt to keep the county afloat when in fact all the supposed bail out for Mayo consisted of was a lengthening of the term of the loan to 25 years which meant a short term gain for Mayo GAA of ,a lower annual loan repayment leading to lower running costs , but a higher interest charge on top of the principal(greater than the original loan bill!!!!) meaning long term a bigger debt , all which has still to be payed back by Mayo Gaa by whatever means ( county income/donations/fundraisers/cost cutting to underage coaching/county team preparation etc...) so not a great bail out in my opinion ;D ;D!!!
Anyway back to the real business , I think the Rossies will get the first great day in the sun against Mayo of the McStay/O'Donnell era by giving us a bit of a trimming thus relegating us on the brand new Hyde Park surface!!! Under John Evans they did seem to struggle in the games they were expected to win ( Sligo in the championship last year) or against provincial rivals which they were at least as strong as (Galway in the league last year) but I think they look a lot more comfortable in their skin due to the experience of McStay/O'Donnell/McHale.
Looking from the outside in, the Rossies seem to be concentrating on their own performance not results since the Monaghan game with the results coming as a result of , not despite the team's performance as in it's not as if they playing conservatively, are hanging in and scraping one point wins or winning because of the opposition kicking a million wides etc... (Although looking at our forwards to date we could very well kick a million wides against them if we can get our hands on the ball that is!!!!)
Seven up at the half should have pushed on and killed them off. We were safe and had a second chance at promotion in the bag so we eased up and Evans started throwing on unfit players for a look see. Came out as flat as a pancake. Hoping for a more rounded effort in similar circumstances on Sunday.
Mc x 2 and FOD get all the attention but David Casey is just as important to the coaching. Excellent defender in his day and had St. Croans playing great stuff en route to the Inter AI final last year.
Quote from: theyellowbus on March 24, 2016, 11:36:28 AM
Really do believe we are building ourselves up for a fall this Sunday.
While we have improved in a lot of areas we have to take into context where other teams in the division are at and I firmly believe that some of these teams took the field against us with an intensity and attitude that didn't show us any respect to be honest and thus allowed us sometimes easy rides.For example I could not understand how off the pace in the first half Donegal were and they played that first half with a very lax attitude.Compare that to the second half where they absolutely blitzed us and only for the sending off I believe we would have ended up losing the game.
We have played very well in all the games this year but this false dawn s**t of the new force in Connacht is so annoying when all we done is won a few games in the league.No disrespect to new York,London or Leitrim we haven't won a Connacht championship game of any note since 2010 and that was against a good Sligo team who if had maybe been fully focused on the job in hand might have beaten us.We haven't beaten Mayo in Connacht championship in 15 years lads wake up and smell the coffee.
We seem to hold way too much regard for Connacht Minor and U21 titles now than Senior which in fairness are great to get but Senior is where it is at and until we translate that into results and achievements at that level we have nothing to be getting brave about.
I'm sick going to different grounds over the years getting our asses handed to us come championship time after false dawns in the league.
Ill enjoy the league success as much as the next man but until its translated into championship results and achievements its only like the oul fella cooking sunday roast when the oul wans away edible but soon forgotten.
I'll take a wild guess and say this is actually a Mayo man pretending to be a Roscommon poster.
In fairness, giveballaghback is predicting Mayo's demise and world Roscommonation since he joined. He'sobviously a Mayo man pretending to be a Rossie too. ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 24, 2016, 01:53:17 PM
In fairness, giveballaghback is predicting Mayo's demise and world Roscommonation since he joined. He'sobviously a Mayo man pretending to be a Rossie too. ::) ::) ::)
No it's clear he is a rossie and one of those that doesn't have much love for Mayo. Before reading the drivel above I doubt any rossie would call themselves theyellowbus.
Lads, I can smell a troll from a thousand paces and theyellowbus doesn't appear to be one at all.
Quote from: Syferus on March 24, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Lads, I can smell a troll from a thousand paces and theyellowbus doesn't appear to be one at all.
Takes one to know one ;)
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 24, 2016, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 24, 2016, 01:53:17 PM
In fairness, giveballaghback is predicting Mayo's demise and world Roscommonation since he joined. He'sobviously a Mayo man pretending to be a Rossie too. ::) ::) ::)
No it's clear he is a rossie and one of those that doesn't have much love for Mayo. Before reading the drivel above I doubt any rossie would call themselves theyellowbus.
It's obviously the Kilmovee buck at it again :D
As for Sunday I hope we put out our strongest available side and go for it big time and see where that brings us. If we win enjoy it, if not let's hope our wise management will learn plenty and be ready for the BIG ONE if it materialises in July.
I see our worst nightmare is reffing. Expect 2 penalties for the Rhus as they bulldoze into a defender in the square and all fall down.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 24, 2016, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 24, 2016, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 24, 2016, 01:53:17 PM
In fairness, giveballaghback is predicting Mayo's demise and world Roscommonation since he joined. He'sobviously a Mayo man pretending to be a Rossie too. ::) ::) ::)
No it's clear he is a rossie and one of those that doesn't have much love for Mayo. Before reading the drivel above I doubt any rossie would call themselves theyellowbus.
It's obviously the Kilmovee buck at it again :D
As for Sunday I hope we put out our strongest available side and go for it big time and see where that brings us. If we win enjoy it, if not let's hope our wise management will learn plenty and be ready for the BIG ONE if it materialises in July.
I see our worst nightmare is reffing. Expect 2 penalties for the Rhus as they bulldoze into a defender in the square and all fall down.
Unless he's the love child of Marty he's not our worst nightmare. Refs starting to cop on to AOS's head down let's-play-rugby stuff anyways.
Wrong again farrendeen, I haven't the intelligence to be a Mayo man or so ye have told me many times,
the guard is starting to change but may take a little longer.
Sundays game is a nothing game for the Rossies as we have qualified for the semi, even if we lose our last 2 games we will still qualify. The extra game will bring us on a lot . Ros had 2 targets for this year, stay in div 1 and qualify for a quarter final next August by whatever route.
Next Fridays u21 match is much more important for us than next Sundays game which is a dead rubber as far as we are concerned.
So dont be getting excited over there in the land of rhubarb, this game is important in yere minds only.
I know you're not a Mayoman. Neither is theyellowbus I'm sure. But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.
Quote from: theyellowbus on March 24, 2016, 11:36:28 AM
Really do believe we are building ourselves up for a fall this Sunday.
While we have improved in a lot of areas we have to take into context where other teams in the division are at and I firmly believe that some of these teams took the field against us with an intensity and attitude that didn't show us any respect to be honest and thus allowed us sometimes easy rides.For example I could not understand how off the pace in the first half Donegal were and they played that first half with a very lax attitude.Compare that to the second half where they absolutely blitzed us and only for the sending off I believe we would have ended up losing the game.
We have played very well in all the games this year but this false dawn s**t of the new force in Connacht is so annoying when all we done is won a few games in the league.No disrespect to new York,London or Leitrim we haven't won a Connacht championship game of any note since 2010 and that was against a good Sligo team who if had maybe been fully focused on the job in hand might have beaten us.We haven't beaten Mayo in Connacht championship in 15 years lads wake up and smell the coffee.
We seem to hold way too much regard for Connacht Minor and U21 titles now than Senior which in fairness are great to get but Senior is where it is at and until we translate that into results and achievements at that level we have nothing to be getting brave about.
I'm sick going to different grounds over the years getting our asses handed to us come championship time after false dawns in the league.
Ill enjoy the league success as much as the next man but until its translated into championship results and achievements its only like the oul fella cooking sunday roast when the oul wans away edible but soon forgotten.
Regardless of whether you're a troll, i think that post is spot on!!
To my mind at least, it looks fairly apparent that a lot of the teams Roscommon have played have not given them the credit they deserved (albeit one could argue that for the first couple of games at least that little credit was warranted given Ros performances in championship last summer).
Compare with Mayo, everyone has targeted their Mayo game as a real definer for them, a game that would give them a true indication of where they are at and a winnable game.
Compare with Dublin .... most teams were beaten before they togged out at all against them and considered it a test to see how far off the top level they were. Damn it, even we in Mayo had this attitude when we played them.
What does it all mean.... it means that it is hard to judge where teams are really at and that there hasn't been enough evidence to make any rash changes in assessments of where teams are compared to their performances in championship last summer..... with the exception to be fair of Roscommon (notwithstanding that other teams were not always at 100% when playing them as mentioned).
So to Sunday.... despite the statements that the U-21 game is more important to the Rossies (which i agree with) and the result is of a secondary nature as qualification already secured for the semis - well i don't for a minute buy any of it. It will be 100% foot to the floor by players and management to get 1 over Mayo and hopefully relegate us. How could it be any way but that .... .big crowd, live on TV with a national interest secured given Ros form to date, first game in the Hyde in a year, chance to relegate Mayo - they'll be frothing at the mouth in the dressing room before they take to the pitch.
And the result .... i still expect Ros to win a close game as we don't have a reliable free-taker in the absence of Cillian to take advantage of the bucketful of frees the Ros defense will concede. I don't believe that will relegate Mayo though as i don't see Monaghan winning either of their last 2 games (at home to Kerry who will want to win to avoid a winner-qualifies-for-the-semi game v Cork in their last match (Cork will beat Down this weekend) and then at home to Donegal who i would expect to lose to Dublin this weekend and thus need to win their last game v Monaghan to guarantee qualification for semis) meaning Mayo would then just need to beat Down in the last game and would stay up on head to head v Monaghan!!
Anybody see/hear or read into Michael Gallagher's tweet last night?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2016, 10:17:56 AM
Anybody see/hear or read into Michael Gallagher's tweet last night?
Yeah but say nothing, don't want Roscelonia finding out.
TT has opted out too I'm hearing.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2016, 10:17:56 AM
Anybody see/hear or read into Michael Gallagher's tweet last night?
Is Cillian coming back in to fall around the Hyde to win frees?
I think playing in the Hyde won't suit Roscommon. It's a softer pitch, not as even as most pitches for accurate kick passing and Ros haven't played a game there in ages.
So we have two fine footballers who have performed magnificently over the last few years who are both still relatively young , add in ypoty awards ,all stars, top scorer in the land gong and all the rossies can say is when describing these two lads as footballers is they dive , barge and cheat .
Do you know it wouldn't be so annoying if the reality wasn't the polar opposite , if AOS got fair play from officials even 50 % of what Donakey gets we would have one by now. No fookinh protection whatsoever , sure you only have to look at out last game v Kerry for evidence , it was a penalty all day long but because it was big Aido it's different rules ,
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2016, 10:17:56 AM
Anybody see/hear or read into Michael Gallagher's tweet last night?
Is Cillian coming back in to fall around the Hyde to win frees?
I think playing in the Hyde won't suit Roscommon. It's a softer pitch, not as even as most pitches for accurate kick passing and Ros haven't played a game there in ages.
These players have played in the Hyde a lot more often than Mayo.
The Hyde is going to be in way better shape than the mud we played Down on.
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Really do believe we are building ourselves up for a fall this Sunday.
While we have improved in a lot of areas we have to take into context where other teams in the division are at and I firmly believe that some of these teams took the field against us with an intensity and attitude that didn't show us any respect to be honest and thus allowed us sometimes easy rides.For example I could not understand how off the pace in the first half Donegal were and they played that first half with a very lax attitude.Compare that to the second half where they absolutely blitzed us and only for the sending off I believe we would have ended up losing the game.
We have played very well in all the games this year but this false dawn s**t of the new force in Connacht is so annoying when all we done is won a few games in the league.No disrespect to new York,London or Leitrim we haven't won a Connacht championship game of any note since 2010 and that was against a good Sligo team who if had maybe been fully focused on the job in hand might have beaten us.We haven't beaten Mayo in Connacht championship in 15 years lads wake up and smell the coffee.
We seem to hold way too much regard for Connacht Minor and U21 titles now than Senior which in fairness are great to get but Senior is where it is at and until we translate that into results and achievements at that level we have nothing to be getting brave about.
I'm sick going to different grounds over the years getting our asses handed to us come championship time after false dawns in the league.
Ill enjoy the league success as much as the next man but until its translated into championship results and achievements its only like the oul fella cooking sunday roast when the oul wans away edible but soon forgotten.
Regardless of whether you're a troll, i think that post is spot on!!
To my mind at least, it looks fairly apparent that a lot of the teams Roscommon have played have not given them the credit they deserved (albeit one could argue that for the first couple of games at least that little credit was warranted given Ros performances in championship last summer).
Compare with Mayo, everyone has targeted their Mayo game as a real definer for them, a game that would give them a true indication of where they are at and a winnable game.
Compare with Dublin .... most teams were beaten before they togged out at all against them and considered it a test to see how far off the top level they were. Damn it, even we in Mayo had this attitude when we played them.
What does it all mean.... it means that it is hard to judge where teams are really at and that there hasn't been enough evidence to make any rash changes in assessments of where teams are compared to their performances in championship last summer..... with the exception to be fair of Roscommon (notwithstanding that other teams were not always at 100% when playing them as mentioned).
So to Sunday.... despite the statements that the U-21 game is more important to the Rossies (which i agree with) and the result is of a secondary nature as qualification already secured for the semis - well i don't for a minute buy any of it. It will be 100% foot to the floor by players and management to get 1 over Mayo and hopefully relegate us. How could it be any way but that .... .big crowd, live on TV with a national interest secured given Ros form to date, first game in the Hyde in a year, chance to relegate Mayo - they'll be frothing at the mouth in the dressing room before they take to the pitch.
And the result .... i still expect Ros to win a close game as we don't have a reliable free-taker in the absence of Cillian to take advantage of the bucketful of frees the Ros defense will concede. I don't believe that will relegate Mayo though as i don't see Monaghan winning either of their last 2 games (at home to Kerry who will want to win to avoid a winner-qualifies-for-the-semi game v Cork in their last match (Cork will beat Down this weekend) and then at home to Donegal who i would expect to lose to Dublin this weekend and thus need to win their last game v Monaghan to guarantee qualification for semis) meaning Mayo would then just need to beat Down in the last game and would stay up on head to head v Monaghan!!
Two posts I'd agree with on the whole.
Roscommon have stepped up a level regardless of the perceived performances of the opposition.
Championship football will be the real test. To be considered at the top table we need a good championship until at least then we are pretenders.
This aos not getting fair play is a joke, to make my point lets think back to the first semi mayo got to with this team in 2011, ball broke to the gooch in a crowded penalty area, he turns out spins around and blasts a piledriver to the roof of the net, now what would aos do in the same circumstances? run straight at the backs and protest when they do not step out of the way, there my friends is the difference between class and ass.
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 25, 2016, 02:50:33 PM
This aos not getting fair play is a joke, to make my point lets think back to the first semi mayo got to with this team in 2011, ball broke to the gooch in a crowded penalty area, he turns out spins around and blasts a piledriver to the roof of the net, now what would aos do in the same circumstances? run straight at the backs and protest when they do not step out of the way, there my friends is the difference between class and ass.
You were right to allude to the fact you're not the brightest in an earlier post .Your post makes no sense in relation to AOS getting fair play from officials , it just tells us that you're of the opinion that Gooch is a better forward than AOS . Most of Ireland would agree with you though including us Mayo WANs if that makes you feel better.
AOS isn't a forward.
Quotedon't see Monaghan winning either of their last 2 games (at home to Kerry who will want to win to avoid a winner-qualifies-for-the-semi game v Cork in their last match (Cork will beat Down this weekend) and then at home to Donegal who i would expect to lose to Dublin this weekend and thus need to win their last game v Monaghan to guarantee qualification for semis)
Monaghan have a good recent record against Donegal and if Monaghan need to win that game to stay up they probably will win it.
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Quote from: giveballaghback on March 25, 2016, 02:50:33 PM
This aos not getting fair play is a joke, to make my point lets think back to the first semi mayo got to with this team in 2011, ball broke to the gooch in a crowded penalty area, he turns out spins around and blasts a piledriver to the roof of the net, now what would aos do in the same circumstances? run straight at the backs and protest when they do not step out of the way, there my friends is the difference between class and ass.
You were right to allude to the fact you're not the brightest in an earlier post .Your post makes no sense in relation to AOS getting fair play from officials , it just tells us that you're of the opinion that Gooch is a better forward than AOS . Most of Ireland would agree with you though including us Mayo WANs if that makes you feel better.
I said ye rhubarbs think im not the brightest, for once I agree with syf aos is not a forward, I am sure he is looking forward to renewing acquaintances with our full back Collins, thats one lad he wont push aside but he knows that already, looking forward to this sham contest on Sunday, I would love to see us win it but if we dont we lose nothing, if we do more than likely we sent the rhubarbs packing, its a great position to be in.
Hon the Rossies.
THE BEST IS YET TO COME.
Isn't it the case that if Ros beat Mayo and Monaghan get even a draw against Kerry, then Mayo will be relegated next Sunday.
Quote from: Shrewdness on March 25, 2016, 03:58:54 PM
Isn't it the case that if Ros beat Mayo and Monaghan get even a draw against Kerry, then Mayo will be relegated next Sunday.
I think that is correct as we can't get more than four points if we lose on Sunday .
Highly unlikely I know but imagine if we beat roscelona ( love that one)in their own back yard , has it ever been done before even.
Three changes for Mayo - out go Vaughan, McLoughlin and Carolan. In come Barrett, Loftus and Regan.
Can't get my head around mcgloughlin , be one of my first on teamsheet for a game like this.
Those selections tend not to start. Barrett has been named for last 2 and has not started.
McLoughlin will start unless he's injured. After that who knows?
Maybe Higgins will be able to take some part?
Anyway looks like we're up against it and hard to know how we can do now to turn it around.
So can we put the silly games aside and say at least two of McLoughlin, COC and Higgins will start for Mayo? The later two in particular starting might reek a little of panic stations stuff.
I have a bad feeling Higgins will finish the season in crutches.
Quote from: Syferus on March 26, 2016, 01:19:20 AM
So can we put the silly games aside and say at least two of McLoughlin, COC and Higgins will start for Mayo? The later two in particular starting might reek a little of panic stations stuff.
I have a bad feeling Higgins will finish the season in crutches.
Don t know how you're doing that leap?
McLoughlin may well be injured. AFAIK COC not back in reckoning at all and Higgins may or may not be over that hamstring injury.
Why you have any feelings about Higgins and crutches is bizarre really.
Quote from: moysider on March 26, 2016, 01:41:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 26, 2016, 01:19:20 AM
So can we put the silly games aside and say at least two of McLoughlin, COC and Higgins will start for Mayo? The later two in particular starting might reek a little of panic stations stuff.
I have a bad feeling Higgins will finish the season in crutches.
Don t know how you're doing that leap?
McLoughlin may well be injured. AFAIK COC not back in reckoning at all and Higgins may or may not be over that hamstring injury.
Why you have any feelings about Higgins and crutches is bizarre really.
Two injuries keeping him out for weeks already this year and it's only March. At the age now when your body starts to break down. Seen it a thousand times. Higgins has the most football behind him of any of the starters on that Mayo team now and it doesn't look like there's much cover for him when he's not there so he'll always be under pressure to come back sooner than he should.
Quote from: moysider on March 25, 2016, 09:32:54 PM
Those selections tend not to start. Barrett has been named for last 2 and has not started.
McLoughlin will start unless he's injured. After that who knows?
Maybe Higgins will be able to take some part?
Anyway looks like we're up against it and hard to know how we can do now to turn it around.
True, the forwards in particular wouldn't have defences sweating. If as I stated before on this thread, Ros have sorted out their defence they'll win.
Where are these Castlebar lads whose absence ye are lamenting since the league started?
Hear Fintan Cregg very doubtful so there will be changes.
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 26, 2016, 02:21:01 PM
Where are these Castlebar lads whose absence ye are lamenting since the league started?
Hear Fintan Cregg very doubtful so there will be changes.
In hiding like you said..
Any word on the state of the field? Pissing rain now. I believe it's very vulnerable to the weather.
Lol at the rossies they are nervous wrecks and their attempts at downplaying the importance of beating Mayo for the first time in 15 years in a meaningful game is very entertaining to observe .
So with Donegal losing this evening, that means they're definitely relegated.
All that needs to happen is Monaghan beat them by 10 in their last game and Mayo win their last 2 by combined winning margin of 20 points and obviously Cork will win their last 2 (or at least beat Down by about 25 and ensure they don't lose to Kerry in last game by more than 2 or 3). :P
Looking forward to a good game of football and a big crowd.
9,000 tickets sold up to last Thursday, don't know how many since.
Add in the free u16s, the thousands of Rhu season ticket holders and the pay on the day crowd - it will be a Championship atmosphere.
Throw in the Easter parade and the Ros townies will make up for the loss of the 2 earlier home games.
If we win bloody great. Draw fine and a loss doesn't really matter and might just let us prepare in peace for the Championship.
9,000 plus season ticket holders plus U-16 equals 16-17,000.
Zero chance ... or have i misunderstood, e.g.: does the 9,000 figure include Mayo season ticket holders ?
Quote from: blast05 on March 26, 2016, 09:53:58 PM
9,000 plus season ticket holders plus U-16 equals 16-17,000.
Zero chance ... or have i misunderstood, e.g.: does the 9,000 figure include Mayo season ticket holders ?
I can't see that many going , it's a bad day forecast and that always puts some off . I'd reckon that 9k includes st holders . 11k Max I'd estimate .
First proper home game for Ros in Division 1, and we're second, and it's vs Mayo and it's a crunch game for them.
There'll be a very large crowd
Quote from: highorlow on March 26, 2016, 04:48:20 PM
Any word on the state of the field? Pissing rain now. I believe it's very vulnerable to the weather.
Hard to imagine the Hyde can take three games in eight days with the weather having turned as it has.
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Quote from: highorlow on March 26, 2016, 04:48:20 PM
Any word on the state of the field? Pissing rain now. I believe it's very vulnerable to the weather.
Hard to imagine the Hyde can take three games in eight days with the weather having turned as it has.
Four. Pitch is fine, not been a game on it since October. A damn sight better than Mayo's mud pit..
I'm hearing its been moved to Kiltoom.
You're an awful man Jinxy. Aren't we bad enough.
Easter Sunday 2016 and there's not another place on Earth I'd prefer to be than at this match. Ros-Mayo will always have a little edge no matter what is at stake. Both counties can drive each other up the wall because both counties are football mad and know very well the other is too. I hope the game lives up to its billing.
Pitch is a disgrace
Pitch inspections going on at the minute apparently. Looks alright in the photos to be fair.
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
Pitch is a disgrace
Serious Q
How can a county ground of a fairly progressive county be such a shithole and I am referring to the field not the stands etc, why have they not rectified it with drainage etc over past decade
Big game today for both sets of supporters and to a lesser extent the teams themselves, anyone who says otherwise is talking shite.
Huge for the Rossies to get a chance to relegate Mayo; they might brush off a loss but it'll hurt if after going to Cork, Kerry and Donegal that they lose at home. From a team point of view, it's probably more about the physiological element of beating Mayo and believing that they can take connacht this year; all these players might have beaten us at various underage stages but losing this might just sow a seed of doubt for a potential meeting later in the summer.
Equally so for us, we might brush off a loss as "only the league" but the last thing we want is to give ground to Roscommon. From a team point of view, losing in itself mightn't make a huge difference this year but next year if we're playing at a lower level, it'll affect us.
Any word on changes to the starting line ups?
Form would definitely favour Roscommon but I feel our greater need will be enough to see us through by the slimmest of margins.
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
Pitch is a disgrace
It's grand. Better than your Prenty pitch.
Quote from: joemamas on March 27, 2016, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
Pitch is a disgrace
Serious Q
How can a county ground of a fairly progressive county be such a shithole and I am referring to the field not the stands etc, why have they not rectified it with drainage etc over past decade
There was a dispute over ownership of the ground. This was resolved late last year. Work will commence on the pitch in the summer. The pitch will not suit our nice footballing side, it will suit some of Mayos big horses.
Mad scramble by Eircom down in the Hyde to fix the phone lines & whatnot, so that the assembled hordes of meeja can access the outside world. Lord above ! ::)
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Quote from: joemamas on March 27, 2016, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
Pitch is a disgrace
Serious Q
How can a county ground of a fairly progressive county be such a shithole and I am referring to the field not the stands etc, why have they not rectified it with drainage etc over past decade
There was a dispute over ownership of the ground. This was resolved late last year. Work will commence on the pitch in the summer. The pitch will not suit our nice footballing side, it will suit some of Mayos big horses.
Thanks
What a turnout for this match.
Freeman and Vaughan in for Nally & Loftus
COC named on the bench
G'wan the Rossies !
Rossies have no midfield, Mayo are toothless up front
Roscommon no.3 acting the tr**p there.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 27, 2016, 03:45:39 PM
Roscommon no.3 acting the tr**p there.
It worked out nicely for him, yellow for Vaughan and Mayo lost their free
8 wides and countless chances otherwise wasted >:(
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 27, 2016, 03:45:39 PM
Roscommon no.3 acting the tr**p there.
Incredible contrast of what Aos and tom parsons do with ball every time they get it
Ref even worse than the pitch.
This game should not have went ahead, pitch is shocking. Ros far too light and getting bullied.
Quote from: Rudi on March 27, 2016, 03:51:47 PM
This game should not have went ahead, pitch is shocking. Ros far too light and getting bullied.
If there is a heavy shower it will be very dangerous.
Plenty of them around: http://www.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp (http://www.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp)
The conditions in Omagh last night were worse than Roscommon looks today.
Mayo by far the better team, should be out of sight. Big wind in second half
CLacey is doing well in goals.
Roscommon will be happy enough going in only a few points down.
Quote from: Rudi on March 27, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
CLacey is doing well in goals.
He's good but not as influential as Deegan .
Having said that the wides and crap ball into the FF line are our biggest problems.
Desperate stuff, we should be out the gap
Don't know why we stopped the "full court press" halfway through the second half, allowing roscommon short kickouts (along with our woeful shooting) has let them back into the game.
Not too confident facing into that wind
The only thing worse than the pitch is the referee's performance. Absolutely shocking.
I thought we were in for a Hyding there but now we fought back to a two point deficit against a strong wind, we might make a big splash in the second half
Let's play the U21 final in Tuam or Carrick or the meadow behind my house. Please.
Mayo looked doomed. The familiar problems persist. General poor decision making and kick passing to inside forwards is dire.
Can t fault effort but it will take more than effort. Depressing.
I suspect the ref will give us loads in the second half in the daft way that GAA refs like to even things up.
It would be interesting to see the Dubs on that pitch next week.
On the plus side, Ciarrai seem to be doing us a favour in Clones
Quote from: muppet on March 27, 2016, 04:19:01 PM
I suspect the ref will give us loads in the second half in the daft way that GAA refs like to even things up.
It would be interesting to see the Dubs on that pitch next week.
He gave ye plenty in the first and blew up for the half with us in your FB line. The evenning he should be doing isn't on yer side.
Mayo have been dominant but very wasteful, should be 10+ points ahead. They spurned 4 goal chances and Deegan is giving Roscommon some very dubious frees.
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 27, 2016, 04:19:01 PM
I suspect the ref will give us loads in the second half in the daft way that GAA refs like to even things up.
It would be interesting to see the Dubs on that pitch next week.
He gave ye plenty in the first and blew up for the half with us in your FB line. The evenning he should be doing isn't on yer side.
The biased f*cker!
Quote from: muppet on March 27, 2016, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 27, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
CLacey is doing well in goals.
He's good but not as influential as Deegan .
Having said that the wides and crap ball into the FF line are our biggest problems.
I would agree with all of that, he is a poor ref.
Durcan in for Vaughan
Great stuff from Regan although he took a nice few steps.
What a superb goal !!
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 27, 2016, 04:29:49 PM
Great stuff from Regan although he took a nice few steps.
He did take a lot of steps, but hopefully that finish will give him lots of confidence.
Great goal and yet more proof referees don't bother enforcing the steps rule.
The commentators love the old chip pick up.
A bit like Marty Morrisey drooling over a corner back scoring a point.
The pitch looks like a field for grazing cows.
Two great scores from Regan. Roscommon getting wiped at midfield.
Strange substitution that?
Coen on for Caff, strange move
Durcan should have goaled there
Listening on radio ; padraig joyce sounds like a machine gun .
Quote from: ashman on March 27, 2016, 04:43:01 PM
Listening on radio ; padraig joyce sounds like a machine gun .
That's Tommy. :D
Roscommon are as bad as the ref and conditions put together.
AOXI is out on his feet.
Ros forwards seem to have given up.
Soft black card
Having been in a very good position at HT Roscommon have put in about as abject a 20 minutes of football as you're likely to see.
Is Jason Doherty going to play today?
That was embarrassing goalkeeping from Hennelly.
Ffs
Time for B Moran or Gibbons
And another great goal !
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 27, 2016, 04:52:26 PM
That was embarrassing goalkeeping from Hennelly.
Worse from the two defenders marking one man.
One wonders how the puke police will view this abomination of a game.
Awful stuff
Caff substitution looks even stranger now. Another bad goal given away.
Holding on now instead of having this wrapped up.
Those few minutes could be very costly if it comes down to score difference.
Quote from: muppet on March 27, 2016, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 27, 2016, 04:52:26 PM
That was embarrassing goalkeeping from Hennelly.
Worse from the two defenders marking one man.
Is it?
A goalkeeper who gets his angles so badly wrong that he leaves his whole goal open is pretty indefensible.
What a goal, all about Murtagh.
Regan a big, big plus today.
Monaghan are doomed now.
Mayo will flog Down and stay up. Monaghan's only hope is if they get a big victory in Donegal.
Phew
We started playing keep-ball with 20 to go and it almost cost us
Great stuff from Regan, really made the difference today. Good to see COC back as well.
A win is a win is a win.
Great effort in fairness. If we clicked and got a bit of form going we could be dangerous.
Mayo much the better team, however a dry sod with 7 more players back we should give them a game. I stand by the earlier statement, this game should have been postponed. The ref was cat
Bit of a reality check for Roscommon today.
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Roscommon fans are the equivalent of the beaten wife in a tumultuous relationship.
Every January the husband (Roscommon GAA team) turns up with flowers at the door promising he has changed for the better and he's not going to slip back into his old habits. The wife is besotted once again, she ignores all the advice from colleagues and acquaintances about the perils of what she is doing, initially everything is going fine (flying in the league) and she is on top of the world - bragging to everyone else about what a great man she has in her life. Then summer comes, the husband slips back into his old habits, he's back on the bottle and unleashing his fury on his wife, she takes a battering (Roscommon get humiliated in the Championship by team they wrongly thought they were well above).
Right now we are at the stage where the husband is beginning to show slight indications of returning to his old form. Will the wife ever learn?
Mayo wanted it more
As long as there are no injuries its all good, they are only a young team they need to learn from that
The Dublin game needs to be moved though that pitch is a joke
What a magnificent match. It was a privilege to be there in person to watch two of the best teams in Ireland go head to head.
Normal service resumed
The game changed when caff went off, and then murtagh came on. I hope that wasnt a 'the game has been won' type substitution from Rochford.
While Evan Regan did very well, I was really hoping he'd slot that free. Its all well and good scoring when we're winning, but when the chips are down we need forwards who want to stand up and be counted. It wont be as big an issue though when cillian reassumes freetaking.
Alan Freeman's black card is yet another to add to the littany of terrible black cards. Introduced to counteract cynicism and it has failed spectacularly in doing so.
I'd say this bus would be much better craic to be on.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CekXj-9WAAAyguG.jpg:large)
Quote from: muppet on March 27, 2016, 05:42:00 PM
I'd say this bus would be much better craic to be on.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CekXj-9WAAAyguG.jpg:large)
Ballyboden Bus would be the best craic
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
What a magnificent match. It was a privilege to be there in person to watch two of the best teams in Ireland go head to head.
Self delusion is a wonderful thing. Back to mid-table
Quote from: Kurtz on March 27, 2016, 05:18:27 PM
Mayo wanted it more
As long as there are no injuries its all good, they are only a young team they need to learn from that
The Dublin game needs to be moved though that pitch is a joke
Leave it where it is. If its good enough for the rest of us..........
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
What a magnificent match. It was a privilege to be there in person to watch two of the best teams in Ireland go head to head.
It's not everyday of the week a person can go to a game and not care which team wins when both are firm favourites, congrats to Syferus and the rest of the Mayo fans here on their victory.
Quote from: moysider on March 27, 2016, 06:00:52 PM
Quote from: Kurtz on March 27, 2016, 05:18:27 PM
Mayo wanted it more
As long as there are no injuries its all good, they are only a young team they need to learn from that
The Dublin game needs to be moved though that pitch is a joke
Leave it where it is. If its good enough for the rest of us..........
If you call that football its no wonder SAM wont be coming across that shannon any time soon
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 27, 2016, 05:17:33 PM
Roscommon fans are the equivalent of the beaten wife in a tumultuous relationship.
Every January the husband (Roscommon GAA team) turns up with flowers at the door promising he has changed for the better and he's not going to slip back into his old habits. The wife is besotted once again, she ignores all the advice from colleagues and acquaintances about the perils of what she is doing, initially everything is going fine (flying in the league) and she is on top of the world - bragging to everyone else about what a great man she has in her life. Then summer comes, the husband slips back into his old habits, he's back on the bottle and unleashing his fury on his wife, she takes a battering (Roscommon get humiliated in the Championship by team they wrongly thought they were well
Right now we are at the stage where the husband is beginning to show slight indications of returning to his old form. Will the wife ever learn?
Yor sir are a pain in the hole. ER and SOS stand out players today.
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2016, 05:29:42 PM
Normal service resumed
Yeah for sure gal 15 fer 15, fairly normal all right
Ros didn't start two big physical players in Daly and Senan Kilbride
I think the soft pitch suited the bigger Mayo players. They uaed direct running and handpaasing whereas Ros tried to footpass into the forwards - silly. Ros had too many light players on eg Kilroy and didn't really have anyone to bring in instead.
Fair play to Mayo, know how to dominate physically, win a handy free and move the ball through the hands. They are a top 4 team for a reason
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 27, 2016, 07:31:59 PM
Ros didn't start two big physical players in Daly and Senan Kilbride
I think the soft pitch suited the bigger Mayo players. They uaed direct running and handpaasing whereas Ros tried to footpass into the forwards - silly. Ros had too many light players on eg Kilroy and didn't really have anyone to bring in instead.
Fair play to Mayo, know how to dominate physically, win a handy free and move the ball through the hands. They are a top 4 team for a reason
Daly, Connolly, Senan all injured. Didn't start the U21s either which was probably the right call with the mess of a pitch.
Fintan looked a little off kicking the ball and makes me think the rumours about him being doubtful weren't far off.
Christmas we need a bit of luck with injuries fie the summer, it's getting ridculous and the current management are doing all they can to mind players.
Pitch was well dodgy! Luckily (I hope) no one got seriously injured. The left hand side in the corner looking from the stand was especially dangerous. Happy with the result. roscommon were a bit disappointing. I suppose they had/have noting to play for so the urgency in their play was more conservative. Mayo dominated the middle and the Rossies will have to have a big look at that area come the summer. Reagan had a massive impact after half time and his goal and a point effectively won this game. Freeman (for his first game back) was lively. Doherty is suffering badly at the moment. Nothing is happening for him. His confidence is shot and he needs to score a dodgy point/goal to get back on the horse. Cafferkeys substitution looked injury related, he walked off with a hobble. Freeman's Black card was unlucky, but by the letter of the laws was correct. Good to see Cillian and Alan back (complete with white under-armour). Not sure what Alan can offer at this stage. But sure we'll have a look at him and hopefully he has still some of the old spark. The battle in this game was won in the middle - with Parsons and the two O'Sheas bossing things. They are monsters of men and have a great engine.
Today had some positives for the Rossies, they played badly for long parts but still were in the game at the end of both halves. They seemed to give Mayo too much respect initially and bar the last 15 minutes they played within themselves.
Frustrating game to watch. We should have been out the gate at half time but our usual wastefulness in front of goal meant we were in a dogfight. Then in the second half we had a great spell but decided yet again to let the opposition back into the game. How many times do we have to watch this pattern?
On the plus side I thought Regan was impressive (late missed free aside). As has been said the O'Sheas and Parsons bossed the middle and were comfortably able to dominate Ross without too much bother.
Caff going off definitely affected us at the back, we looked very nervy once he was gone. He definitely seemed to be hobbling as he went off so hopefully it's not too serious. DOC had a sore knee too so fingers crossed he will be ok for U21 action next week.
Great to have Cillian back and I think Alan still has plenty to offer as an impact/calming things down sub. He's a man I'd still look to with 15 minutes to go in a tight game.
The Hyde was looking well...
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No point in taking anything 'into the championship' from that game. We still don't know how Ros would play on a good pitch against us. Will the u21 final go ahead there if there's a downpour next Fri or Sat? On the game itself, it went as expected I suppose. Mayo still too wasteful on the ball. Dominated midfield.
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Mayo wanted it more
As long as there are no injuries its all good, they are only a young team they need to learn from that
The Dublin game needs to be moved though that pitch is a joke
Leave it where it is. If its good enough for the rest of us..........
If you call that football its no wonder SAM wont be coming across that shannon any time soon
I don t remember calling it football or anything else.
If other teams are expected to play there why not Dublin?
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The pitch looks like a field for grazing cows.
Cows wouldn't last too long it was that wet!
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Mayo wanted it more
As long as there are no injuries its all good, they are only a young team they need to learn from that
The Dublin game needs to be moved though that pitch is a joke
Leave it where it is. If its good enough for the rest of us..........
If you call that football its no wonder SAM wont be coming across that shannon any time soon
I don t remember calling it football or anything else.
If other teams are expected to play there why not Dublin?
Other teams are not expected to play on it. Roscommon's games against Monaghan and Down were moved elsewhere, due to the poor state of the pitch at the Hyde. If more rain falls during the week, or they aren't able to drain the pitch sufficiently between now and next weekend, then the game should be moved. The fact that it's the Dubs is irrelevant.
It was already a waterlogged mess yesterday and it wasn t moved. Even though there was more rain forecast.
Wasn't overly despondent leaving Hyde Park today. Mayo totally outmuscled us in a pitch more suitable for bog snorkeling than Gaelic football. The keepers vainly tried to sweep some of the water away with a yard brush before proceedings began when even a hundred fire engine pumps would not have worked. Thank god no player was seriously injured though I feared the worst for Fintan Cregg and thankfully he got up and dusted himself off. Game should have been postponed or we should have given home advantage to Mayo. Yes there was a huge crowd there and it's a big loss to town but it was no advertisement for football.. As for the game, Mayo showed they are still the team to beat in Connacht. Big, physical team, too strong for the young Rossies and they had a stranglehold around the middle all day. Best game for both O'Sheas in a while. It was poor shooting from play that kept us from going in seven points down at half time. Clearly when fit our absent players will add a lot so remain optimistic.
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I said that I thought the Rossies would put out a reserve team but they didn't and still lost.
For all the talk of confidence and making the semis it must be heart breaking coming out today thinking Mayo have had a terrible league and will probably still be here next year. There must be niggling doubts that when it comes down to it the big boys just put the foot down and get the win they needed. A loss in the semi would reinforce this. It's a lot of doubt to be carrying into a potential Connacht final
Fair dues to Mayo they played some nice football in terrible conditions. Their ball handling and ability to win dirty ball was far greater than ours. I think we scored more from play than them which is bound to be a worry. I think deep analysis of this game much like the 2011 Connacht final is not worth anything, conditions suited Mayo, we were flat and yards off the pace. Mayo still are the kings of Connacht, mind you not many informed Rossies thought any differently prior to this game. If the weather keeps at the same craic not a hope of the U21 or Dublin match played in the Hyde.
That game will do the Ross more than us. They now know the intensity required. Conditions bad but our shooting still below par and worrying. As was some of the decision making from the sideline in the second half. Peter Canavan on the last word Fri was spot on
The Mayo posters on here that didn't care if relegated were reminded today that Mayo players and management very much cared. Roscommon on the other hand seemed happy with their league work already as in a game that mattered more to them they wouldn't have given debuts to a number of players.
What had Peter to say?
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 27, 2016, 10:05:54 PM
The Mayo posters on here that didn't care if relegated were reminded today that Mayo players and management very much cared. Roscommon on the other hand seemed happy with their league work already as in a game that mattered more to them they wouldn't have given debuts to a number of players.
What posters don't care about relegation?
I think one or two said they wouldn t mind relegation as long as we find a few more players, especially a couple of forwards.
The thing is, if you find a few good new players you won t be relegated! Relegation has nothing to recommend it by imo.
The less we see of AOS at FF the better I feel, bossed the middle today with his presence adding to the link play.
Would it be 2001 since we've lost in Hyde park?
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The less we see of AOS at FF the better I feel, bossed the middle today with his presence adding to the link play.
Would it be 2001 since we've lost in Hyde park?
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Yes and that was against Westmeath in rd 4 of the qualifiers. Just after we beat youse with that late great Gerry Lohan goal.
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Well it is only the league but sometimes it's beautiful
I said that I thought the Rossies would put out a reserve team but they didn't and still lost.
For all the talk of confidence and making the semis it must be heart breaking coming out today thinking Mayo have had a terrible league and will probably still be here next year. There must be niggling doubts that when it comes down to it the big boys just put the foot down and get the win they needed. A loss in the semi would reinforce this. It's a lot of doubt to be carrying into a potential Connacht final
There'll always be doubt until we prove we can beat Mayo (or Galway or Sligo) in 2016 championship. That would be the same if we won today. The loss today dampens expectations and takes the press off our backs. The narrative now (90% true) is that we were fitter than everyone else early in the league and got enough early victories in to survive. Indeed, if Kerry reverse the Killarney results in a league semi as you'd well expect them to, it will be: now Rossies, ye're not shouting now, the real teams only start playing after the Easter eggs are well devoured. Now when we could have laid down a marker against Mayo we were found wanting. In other words: all pressure off. If fit, Diarmuid Murtagh (still scored more in 5 mins from play than everyone else today, save Evan Regan whose goal should have been called for overcarrying anyway), Ultan Harney, Cathal Shine and Niall Daly. Senan will also prob be a definite starter. That's 5 anyway. Still confident we'll give Connacht a fair rattle. Today was a good eye opener on where improvements are urgently needed. Better to know now and let's see how Fergal and Kevin can address that. I actually think we'll beat Dublin next week just to screw with the hack's heads.
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The less we see of AOS at FF the better I feel, bossed the middle today with his presence adding to the link play.
Would it be 2001 since we've lost in Hyde park?
Yip. The World Trade Centre was still standing back then. No way we should have lost that either. Pissing about.
Correct about AOS imo.
Our limitations are obvious but can be solved. But a lot of positives. Likes of Caff. and Parsons are playing the best I ve ever seen them I think. Patrick Durkan and Diarmuid are new kids but look like driving forces already. A bit of steadiness and consistency from likes of Freeman and things could get interesting again.
I hear all the hotels and b/b's are booked out next weekend by the Dubs so the water polo will have to go ahead.
Fair play to all the Ross supporters today all praise and admiration for the lads. Hopefully we meet again in a Connacht final where a dry ball will make for a better game.
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Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 27, 2016, 10:05:54 PM
The Mayo posters on here that didn't care if relegated were reminded today that Mayo players and management very much cared. Roscommon on the other hand seemed happy with their league work already as in a game that mattered more to them they wouldn't have given debuts to a number of players.
What posters don't care about relegation?
I was one! I was not worried as I did not think we'd finish on less points than Monaghan. Look its great to (more than likely) stay up! But feck the league is about doing enough (to stay up) while finding players, developing players, finding systems, trying out players in different positions. Keeping players ticking over without injuries. We all know the drill at this stage. Winning games is a bonus while doing this. You sort have to take a chance and experiment.
Anyway, the under 21 game next weekend was more important than todays game, so a player like Diarmuid should have been subbed earlier. Especially considering the conditions.
Quote from: highorlow on March 27, 2016, 10:54:11 PM
I hear all the hotels and b/b's are booked out next weekend by the Dubs so the water polo will have to go ahead.
Fair play to all the Ross supporters today all praise and admiration for the lads. Hopefully we meet again in a Connacht final where a dry ball will make for a better game.
Houl on! Hotels and B&Bs?? Sure it's only a 2 hour drive!!
I think Ros will be happy enough there today. They know they are not a big team and the drier sod suits them better. Mayo scored most from frees, the goal should have been pulled up for overcarrying.
Mayo more or less showed their full team. AOS and Parsons carried Mayo today. Mayo are very good at identifying when a player gets the ball in a bad position on their wrong foot or hand and they crowd the space to force a turnover. They also carry the ball much more direct than Roscommon.
Ros missing N Daly, D Shine, C Shine, K Higgins, N Carty, D Smith, S Kilbride, C Connolly, D Keenan, U Harney to name a few.
We need a few of the big bollixs back if we want to play Mayo's meaty feckers again in the summer.
The u21 final will be either in Carrick or tuam and the Dubs game could be in Tullamore, no way the Hyde was playable today and with an unsettled week of weather promised and looking like a wet Friday there will be no choice but change venues.
Its not often in sport you get a free lesson and that is exactly what happened today, we would have been in the exact same position win or lose, we have qualified for the league semi more than likely in either second or third spot and we will be playing kerry next sunday week.
Padraic Joyce said on rte radio this evening that Ros could get a tanking in those 2 games and they would be back where they started, lets wait and see.
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The u21 final will be either in Carrick or tuam and the Dubs game could be in Tullamore, no way the Hyde was playable today and with an unsettled week of weather promised and looking like a wet Friday there will be no choice but change venues.
Its not often in sport you get a free lesson and that is exactly what happened today, we would have been in the exact same position win or lose, we have qualified for the league semi more than likely in either second or third spot and we will be playing kerry next sunday week.
Padraic Joyce said on rte radio this evening that Ros could get a tanking in those 2 games and they would be back where they started, lets wait and see.
PJ had feck all good to say about Rossies or Mayo. Still bitter about the nailing The bauld Francie gave him in the Hyde. Is Seafoid PJs alter ego?
Quote from: giveballaghback on March 28, 2016, 12:43:03 AM
Padraic Joyce said on rte radio this evening that Ros could get a tanking in those 2 games and they would be back where they started, lets wait and see.
Back to where they started would be on the verge of relegation in January instead Roscommon have secured Div one football for at least another year.
That defeat for Roscommon today could yet be a blessing in disguise before the championship. Did Mayo show more of their hand than they would want before the summer? either way they needed that win more than the home side.
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Quote from: giveballaghback on March 28, 2016, 12:43:03 AM
Padraic Joyce said on rte radio this evening that Ros could get a tanking in those 2 games and they would be back where they started, lets wait and see.
Back to where they started would be on the verge of relegation in January instead Roscommon have secured Div one football for at least another year.
That defeat for Roscommon today could yet be a blessing in disguise before the championship. Did Mayo show more of their hand than they would want before the summer? either way they needed that win more than the home side.
Mayo are only getting warmed up....Cillian O Connor missing, Keith Higgins missing.....arguably 2 of the best players in Ireland over the past 5 years.
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Quote from: giveballaghback on March 28, 2016, 12:43:03 AM
The u21 final will be either in Carrick or tuam and the Dubs game could be in Tullamore, no way the Hyde was playable today and with an unsettled week of weather promised and looking like a wet Friday there will be no choice but change venues.
Its not often in sport you get a free lesson and that is exactly what happened today, we would have been in the exact same position win or lose, we have qualified for the league semi more than likely in either second or third spot and we will be playing kerry next sunday week.
Padraic Joyce said on rte radio this evening that Ros could get a tanking in those 2 games and they would be back where they started, lets wait and see.
PJ had feck all good to say about Rossies or Mayo. Still bitter about the nailing The bauld Francie gave him in the Hyde. Is Seafoid PJs alter ego?
Joyce will be forever in Donnellan's shadow for me.
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
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Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
We're already in the semis. We don't need anything from the Dublin game.
I'd fancy us to play far better in Croker than the Hyde against them too. Why fear Dublin? It's all new to this team and the more minutes against the best the better.
More likely we'll meet Kerry in the semi anyways.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
I think Roscommon are already into the knockout stages and where they will likely play Kerry.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Hey, what ever! Just in recent seasons Derry and Cork have had their summers ruined before they had even began by nightmare League performances in Croker.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Based on what, playing those teams in a half empty pairc ui rinn etc? Ross were intimidated by Mayo today, on their home patch. Playing Dublin in front of a full house and they would be destroyed. Ross are an up and coming team and will be contenders (as much as Monaghan are anyway) but saying a full Croke Park won't affect them is nonsense imo. Only Mayo, Kerry and Donegal have proven they can handle that atmosphere in last 3/4 years. That's why we're called the big 4, want to join the club, earn it.
Awesome performance by an almost full strength mayo against a reserve Roscommon side, Roscommon must be dreading having to meet them again in the Connacht final :-) :-) :-) :-) Seriously Mayo looked pathetic today going at full pelt to only scrap across the line, what an abysmal unit of forwards.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Based on what, playing those teams in a half empty pairc ui rinn etc? Ross were intimidated by Mayo today, on their home patch. Playing Dublin in front of a full house and they would be destroyed. Ross are an up and coming team and will be contenders (as much as Monaghan are anyway) but saying a full Croke Park won't affect them is nonsense imo. Only Mayo, Kerry and Donegal have proven they can handle that atmosphere in last 3/4 years. That's why we're called the big 4, want to join the club, earn it.
In fairness Monaghan got within one point of Dublin on their last two Croke park visits.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Based on what, playing those teams in a half empty pairc ui rinn etc? Ross were intimidated by Mayo today, on their home patch. Playing Dublin in front of a full house and they would be destroyed. Ross are an up and coming team and will be contenders (as much as Monaghan are anyway) but saying a full Croke Park won't affect them is nonsense imo. Only Mayo, Kerry and Donegal have proven they can handle that atmosphere in last 3/4 years. That's why we're called the big 4, want to join the club, earn it.
There was nothing intimating about Mayo today. It was actually remarkable how poor Mayo were today with survival on the line and them throwing everything they had at the wall. Some of the shooting and kick passing was woeful. I don't think we had more than one or two players over six foot on the field today - if Mayo think Seamus O'Shea or Tom Parsons will win anything near as much easy ball if we meet in the summer they could be in for a rude awakening. Without all that possession it's hard to see how Mayo are going to get anywhere with that level performance because they were so wasteful in front of goal. It was an attack that had no cutting edge to it. This has been a common theme with this Mayo team the last five, six, seven, eight, nine years. The craft up front just is not there.
I'm amazed any Roscommon person such as yourself would be crowing about such a poor performance. We were totally abject apart from ten or fifteen minutes at the end of the halves yet we were within a score of Mayo in the closing stages.
What I saw today was a Division 3 match between two sides playing badly. There was no top four or even top eight team on display today and if you think otherwise you're fooling yourself.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Based on what, playing those teams in a half empty pairc ui rinn etc? Ross were intimidated by Mayo today, on their home patch. Playing Dublin in front of a full house and they would be destroyed. Ross are an up and coming team and will be contenders (as much as Monaghan are anyway) but saying a full Croke Park won't affect them is nonsense imo. Only Mayo, Kerry and Donegal have proven they can handle that atmosphere in last 3/4 years. That's why we're called the big 4, want to join the club, earn it.
There was nothing intimating about Mayo today. It was actually remarkable how poor Mayo were today with survival on the line and them throwing everything they had at the wall. Some of the shooting and kick passing was woeful. I don't think we had more than one or two players over six foot on the field today - if Mayo think Seamus O'Shea or Tom Parsons will win anything near as much easy ball if we meet in the summer they could be in for a rude awakening. Without all that possession it's hard to see how Mayo are going to get anywhere with that level performance because they were so wasteful in front of goal. It was an attack that had no cutting edge to it. This has been a common theme with this Mayo team the last five, six, seven, eight, nine years. The craft up front just is not there.
I'm amazed any Roscommon person such as yourself would be crowing about such a poor performance. We were totally abject apart from ten or fifteen minutes at the end of the halves yet we were within a score of Mayo in the closing stages.
What I saw today was a Division 3 match between two sides playing badly. There was no top four or even top eight team on display today and if you think otherwise you're fooling yourself.
That's exactly my point, you've just seen a different game. We are proven contenders. Yes we have fallen short but we'll be there or thereabouts this summer, guaranteed. Willie Hegarty said Ross teams get 'spooked' by Mayo and he's right, they do. We were at 60% today and yet were comfortable. Our sharpness will improve big time by summer. I do believe Ross are on the way up but ye are at least two years away from genuinely challenging the top 4 when it matters. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I see it.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Based on what, playing those teams in a half empty pairc ui rinn etc? Ross were intimidated by Mayo today, on their home patch. Playing Dublin in front of a full house and they would be destroyed. Ross are an up and coming team and will be contenders (as much as Monaghan are anyway) but saying a full Croke Park won't affect them is nonsense imo. Only Mayo, Kerry and Donegal have proven they can handle that atmosphere in last 3/4 years. That's why we're called the big 4, want to join the club, earn it.
There was nothing intimating about Mayo today. It was actually remarkable how poor Mayo were today with survival on the line and them throwing everything they had at the wall. Some of the shooting and kick passing was woeful. I don't think we had more than one or two players over six foot on the field today - if Mayo think Seamus O'Shea or Tom Parsons will win anything near as much easy ball if we meet in the summer they could be in for a rude awakening. Without all that possession it's hard to see how Mayo are going to get anywhere with that level performance because they were so wasteful in front of goal. It was an attack that had no cutting edge to it. This has been a common theme with this Mayo team the last five, six, seven, eight, nine years. The craft up front just is not there.
I'm amazed any Roscommon person such as yourself would be crowing about such a poor performance. We were totally abject apart from ten or fifteen minutes at the end of the halves yet we were within a score of Mayo in the closing stages.
What I saw today was a Division 3 match between two sides playing badly. There was no top four or even top eight team on display today and if you think otherwise you're fooling yourself.
That's exactly my point, you've just seen a different game. We are proven contenders. Yes we have fallen short but we'll be there or thereabouts this summer, guaranteed. Willie Hegarty said Ross teams get 'spooked' by Mayo and he's right, they do. We were at 60% today and yet were comfortable. Our sharpness will improve big time by summer. I do believe Ross are on the way up but ye are at least two years away from genuinely challenging the top 4 when it matters. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I see it.
Willie Herarty also routinely questions if we'll be having full duck or no dinner.
I think it's very questionable if Mayo will be there or thereabouts this year. To mean that means being competitive with Dublin, because if we're honest everyone else in football is just looking in at them at this stage and it's all well and good beating Donegal or Kerry but it won't matter a jot if the best team in the land are still yards ahead of everyone else. We might well be closer to ye than any of the 'Next Three' are to Dublin. They have a long way to go to get to that point on the evidence of this league. The Ros team that dominated Connacht in the 70s reached the end of the line abruptly and it's likely this Mayo side will as well. It was interesting to read an interview with Seamus Hayden yesterday (a member of that Ros team) about how much putting in so much work year after year and not "coming back with a full bucket of water" takes out of a team. It takes something out of you that you simply can't get back.
I don't mind being perfectly honest in saying I think whatever about Connacht I think this Mayo team's moment for winning the big one has passed. It seems too big an ask now and they may have put the final nail in the coffin themselves by kicking up a fuss over their management. Rochford seems to have brought very little to the party that Holmes and Connelly didn't.
Mayo or Donegal will beat the Dubs this year unless Indiana is playing, of course
I think Ros would give any team a good game on a decent pitch, and unlike Derry in the league afew years ago, it's not based on shutting up.shop and wearing teams down.
Mayo posters aren't being very generous to their neighbours in acknowledging their away wins v Kerry, Cork and Donegal. If Mayo had won those they'd be talking about All Irelands in March.
Let's see how the rest of the league pans out
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 28, 2016, 09:30:11 AM
I think Ros would give any team a good game on a decent pitch, and unlike Derry in the league afew years ago, it's not based on shutting up.shop and wearing teams down.
Mayo posters aren't being very generous to their neighbours in acknowledging their away wins v Kerry, Cork and Donegal. If Mayo had won those they'd be talking about All Irelands in March.
Let's see how the rest of the league pans out
Hang on ta f**k Will ya ffs. We simply don't know how Roscommon will fare in championship. I was there yesterday obviously and to me I'd be concerned if I were a Rossie , we could of won by 12/14 points if our shooting boots were on , tis all right saying Mayo don't have forwards blah blah and going with every fuckin line the usual suspects throw out at criticising Mayo but they forget how we have blitzed teams with big scores over the past few years . Rochford is piecing a team together for the summer and ejits like myself included have been wrong to be overly concerned at league performances with a bit more luck we could of easily won all our games bar cork where we were just awful that day.
I walked away from Hyde park like everyone else with any cop on about Gaelic football from either side knowing Mayo are still likely to hold onto the Nestor cup for a record breaking sixth time on the trot and people need to appreciate this team , they are a special bunch of players .
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 28, 2016, 02:15:48 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
I think Roscommon are already into the knockout stages and where they will likely play Kerry.
If Ross were to get tanked by Dublin and Cork & Donegal both win, there's a slim chance they could finish 5th AFAIK. Not very likely but possible
Cork -11 I think while we're +25.
Be some winning margins required by Dublin and Cork.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 03:07:00 AM
Quote from: Beffs on March 28, 2016, 02:22:15 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Hey, what ever! Just in recent seasons Derry and Cork have had their summers ruined before they had even began by nightmare League performances in Croker.
Looking at the standings it looks like Kerry v Roscommon in one of the semis is a strong possibility in the 2nd versus 3rd semi , which might be a bit of a problem for the Rossies as I could see Kerry being out for revenge big time since Kerry got dog's abuse for their performance in Killarney.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 03:07:00 AM
Quote from: Beffs on March 28, 2016, 02:22:15 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Hey, what ever! Just in recent seasons Derry and Cork have had their summers ruined before they had even began by nightmare League performances in Croker.
Looking at the standings it looks like Kerry v Roscommon in one of the semis is a strong possibility in the 2nd versus 3rd semi , which might be a bit of a problem for the Rossies as I could see Kerry being out for revenge big time since Kerry got dog's abuse for their performance in Killarney.
Kerry are a damn sight lesser of a team than Dublin. I'd have no issues getting another league game against a top team on a proper surface. It would make up for yesterday.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 03:07:00 AM
Quote from: Beffs on March 28, 2016, 02:22:15 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Hey, what ever! Just in recent seasons Derry and Cork have had their summers ruined before they had even began by nightmare League performances in Croker.
Looking at the standings it looks like Kerry v Roscommon in one of the semis is a strong possibility in the 2nd versus 3rd semi , which might be a bit of a problem for the Rossies as I could see Kerry being out for revenge big time since Kerry got dog's abuse for their performance in Killarney.
2007 & 2010 we got to the League Final. Didn't go very well after that in either year.
Quote from: muppet on March 28, 2016, 11:24:23 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 03:07:00 AM
Quote from: Beffs on March 28, 2016, 02:22:15 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
Could be wrong on this. But a narrow defeat to Dublin not qualifying for the knockout stages of the League might not be a bad out come for Roscommon. Some where along the line you'll come up across the Dubs in Croker and that has proven in recent times to be a nightmare scenario.
They're in the semis. They have a brilliant scoring differential and, they have the head to head advantage against all three of Donegal, Kerry and Cork.
You're right, some counties have a nightmare day out, the first time they face the Dubs in Croker. But in the grand scheme of things, it's better to get it out of the way, in a half empty Croke Park, in April, in a game that doesn't really matter, facing a half empty Hill. You don't really want to be doing it, in white hot heat of an AI champo game in the summer.
Anyway, based on what we saw in the Kerry, Donegal & Cork games, I don't think that the Rossies will suffer from the same kinds of Croke Park stage fright that some other counties have.
Hey, what ever! Just in recent seasons Derry and Cork have had their summers ruined before they had even began by nightmare League performances in Croker.
Looking at the standings it looks like Kerry v Roscommon in one of the semis is a strong possibility in the 2nd versus 3rd semi , which might be a bit of a problem for the Rossies as I could see Kerry being out for revenge big time since Kerry got dog's abuse for their performance in Killarney.
2007 & 2010 we got to the League Final. Didn't go very well after that in either year.
Mayo losing a big final in Croker? Never.
Quote from: larryin89 on March 28, 2016, 09:53:25 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 28, 2016, 09:30:11 AM
I think Ros would give any team a good game on a decent pitch, and unlike Derry in the league afew years ago, it's not based on shutting up.shop and wearing teams down.
Mayo posters aren't being very generous to their neighbours in acknowledging their away wins v Kerry, Cork and Donegal. If Mayo had won those they'd be talking about All Irelands in March.
Let's see how the rest of the league pans out
Hang on ta f**k Will ya ffs. We simply don't know how Roscommon will fare in championship. I was there yesterday obviously and to me I'd be concerned if I were a Rossie , we could of won by 12/14 points if our shooting boots were on , tis all right saying Mayo don't have forwards blah blah and going with every fuckin line the usual suspects throw out at criticising Mayo but they forget how we have blitzed teams with big scores over the past few years . Rochford is piecing a team together for the summer and ejits like myself included have been wrong to be overly concerned at league performances with a bit more luck we could of easily won all our games bar cork where we were just awful that day.
I walked away from Hyde park like everyone else with any cop on about Gaelic football from either side knowing Mayo are still likely to hold onto the Nestor cup for a record breaking sixth time on the trot and people need to appreciate this team , they are a special bunch of players .
Sums up how I felt yesterday too Larry. I wouldn't judge what Roch has or hasn't brought to the party yet. After next Sunday is when the real work will start and he'll have time to work on systems and a style of play without league points to worry about.
Someone said we're not being generous to our neighbours. The thing is, we've been there before. Flying in the league, getting carried away and come summer, nothing to show for it. Not going to talk about Roscommons chances any further as it seems to be offending our neighbours but let's see how it plays out in the summer.
Syf you might be right about Mayo and wells and buckets of water and baggage and luggage and whatever other metaphor you're having, again time will tell. I agree Dublin are the team to beat and I absolutely believe we can beat them, it might be a 4 out of 10 chance but definitely possible. For now we need to focus on a much more competitive Connacht championship. Setting out to win a 6th in a row is where it starts again and take it from there.
James Horan yet again joining the bandwagon and taking a swipe at us. Should keep his mouth shut, he is a member of a not so elite band of mouth pieces that have failed to get Mayo over the line. Roscommon are no where near Mayo, but it was not our fault Mayo kicked wide after wide and only won by 4 points despite adapting better to the conditions and having a huge amount of the ball. No wonder he never won an all Ireland when his analysis is clouded by hatred and not clarity of thinking.
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 12:47:48 AM
Four. Pitch is fine, not been a game on it since October. A damn sight better than Mayo's mud pit..
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 07:35:13 PM
Daly, Connolly, Senan all injured. Didn't start the U21s either which was probably the right call with the mess of a pitch.
Running with the hare and the hounds on the state of the pitch Syf?
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Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on March 28, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 12:47:48 AM
Four. Pitch is fine, not been a game on it since October. A damn sight better than Mayo's mud pit..
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 07:35:13 PM
Daly, Connolly, Senan all injured. Didn't start the U21s either which was probably the right call with the mess of a pitch.
Running with the hare and the hounds on the state of the pitch Syf?
You'll notice the time of the first post.
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2016, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on March 28, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 12:47:48 AM
Four. Pitch is fine, not been a game on it since October. A damn sight better than Mayo's mud pit..
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 07:35:13 PM
Daly, Connolly, Senan all injured. Didn't start the U21s either which was probably the right call with the mess of a pitch.
Running with the hare and the hounds on the state of the pitch Syf?
You'll notice the time of the first post.
You'll notice who posted it! ;D ;D
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2016, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on March 28, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 12:47:48 AM
Four. Pitch is fine, not been a game on it since October. A damn sight better than Mayo's mud pit..
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 07:35:13 PM
Daly, Connolly, Senan all injured. Didn't start the U21s either which was probably the right call with the mess of a pitch.
Running with the hare and the hounds on the state of the pitch Syf?
You'll notice the time of the first post.
I did. I noticed the time of this one too.
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
Pitch is a disgrace
It's grand. Better than your Prenty pitch.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on March 28, 2016, 03:19:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2016, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on March 28, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 12:47:48 AM
Four. Pitch is fine, not been a game on it since October. A damn sight better than Mayo's mud pit..
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 07:35:13 PM
Daly, Connolly, Senan all injured. Didn't start the U21s either which was probably the right call with the mess of a pitch.
Running with the hare and the hounds on the state of the pitch Syf?
You'll notice the time of the first post.
I did. I noticed the time of this one too.
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2016, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
Pitch is a disgrace
It's grand. Better than your Prenty pitch.
Again notice the time.
We can send ye over a load of sand from PT if that'll help.
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Pitch wasn't grand at 3.08pm yesterday Syf.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 28, 2016, 04:42:32 PM
We can send ye over a load of sand from PT if that'll help.
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I would hate to think what ye might have buried under that!
Quote from: muppet on March 28, 2016, 06:04:46 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 28, 2016, 04:42:32 PM
We can send ye over a load of sand from PT if that'll help.
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I would hate to think what ye might have buried under that!
Few Mayo bodies from 1996 maybe
First of all to the clowns on here thinking I'm a troll its amazing these are the same people who seem to spout the most rubbish on this forum.
If anyone has any doubts about my feeling about Roscommon football they can pm me and i will arrange they can come to a training session i will be taking this week as a coach or i can meet them and go through my history as coach at all levels in club football and development squad levels (as I'm sure like many on this forum).I don't see why i need to have to justify myself only that maybe i put up a post which people disagreed with which in all seriousness simply defeats the purpose of a public forum.
On the match itself we were out muscled and outfought by a side who are probably one of the strongest around the middle third in the country.
Positives from a Mayo point of view is they had to stand up and put down some kind of marker for the year which they did.As mentioned their middle diamond was unbelievable at times in terms of work rate and effort.(tom parsons i thought was immense).
Evan Regan seemed to stand up and put in big shout for a starting berth come championship.
Negatives for Mayo was obviously their wide tally especially in the first half,the way they didn't kill a team off that for for 85% of the game were extremely poor,i also thought at times that their indiscipline was at times not what it should have been as they give away lot of possession by getting involved in silly stuff and really no need too.
Positives for our lads was we didn't get hammered out the door by half time which we should have,we kept plugging away which against a team who seemed to win most of the physical challenges was good to see it showed we weren't afraid,we took lot of hits and came back for more this will stand to them,glimpses of D Murtagh shows this lad could be a huge player for us if 100% fit.
Negatives was a lack of a game plan once we don't win enough possession that is very worrying,our sideways and back ways passing brought back memories of us a few years back in Div 3 and 4,our lack of strength in depth around the middle and the centre half back position.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 28, 2016, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 28, 2016, 06:04:46 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 28, 2016, 04:42:32 PM
We can send ye over a load of sand from PT if that'll help.
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I would hate to think what ye might have buried under that!
Few Mayo bodies from 1996 maybe
A few Leinster medals from 2010?
Was impressed with Evan Regan.
Good addition to have a direct runner in the FF line.
He'd want to get himself a proper haircut though.
Fellas with fancy haircuts tend to be unreliable.
How many midfielders were Roscommon missing?
Considering how Mayo dominated the game a 4 point win didn't do them justice although Roscommon can still find a few positives from the result.
Regan kicked some great scores although managed to miss a couple off easier chances in the 1st half; If only D Murtagh could stay fit, he's some talent.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 29, 2016, 04:08:16 PM
How many midfielders were Roscommon missing?
Considering how Mayo dominated the game a 4 point win didn't do them justice although Roscommon can still find a few positives from the result.
Regan kicked some great scores although managed to miss a couple off easier chances in the 1st half; If only D Murtagh could stay fit, he's some talent.
Nearly every single one, honestly.
Cathal Shine and Kevin Higgins are our number one pairing when both are fit but it's been two years since both have been together and fit. Both are out right now. Donie Shine is out. So was Senan Kilbride who would be one of our best ball winners even if he usually is playing FF. Thomas Corcoran is one of our best underage midfielders (now overage) of the last few years and he's only back training from an injury recently. Cathal Compton who came on late and did well (beating AOS to two hop ball in the process) is our starting U21 midfielder and one who everyone would have high hopes for in the future. but even he is just back from injury himself. Ultan Harney is a very good (U21) CF who is just back from injury and wasn't in the 26 on Sunday because of that.
Ian Kilbride and Fintan Cregg are not midfielders, both are good HBs and HFs respectively. I'm not worried about being out-muscled in the middle by Mayo because if we meet again it will likely be entirely different match-ups, we just have to focus on getting those players as healthy and sharp as possible for June and July.
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2016, 04:20:11 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 29, 2016, 04:08:16 PM
How many midfielders were Roscommon missing?
Considering how Mayo dominated the game a 4 point win didn't do them justice although Roscommon can still find a few positives from the result.
Regan kicked some great scores although managed to miss a couple off easier chances in the 1st half; If only D Murtagh could stay fit, he's some talent.
Nearly every single one, honestly.
Cathal Shine and Kevin Higgins are our number one pairing when both are fit but it's been two years since both have been together and fit. Both are out right now. Donie Shine is out. So was Senan Kilbride who would be one of our best ball winners even if he usually is playing FF. Thomas Corcoran is one of our best underage midfielders (now overage) of the last few years and he's only back training from an injury recently. Cathal Compton who came on late and did well (beating AOS to two hop ball in the process) is our starting U21 midfielder and one who everyone would have high hopes for in the future. but even he is just back from injury himself. Ultan Harney is a very good (U21) CF who is just back from injury and wasn't in the 26 on Sunday because of that.
Ian Kilbride and Fintan Cregg are not midfielders, both are good HBs and HFs respectively. I'm not worried about being out-muscled in the middle by Mayo because if we meet again it will likely be entirely different match-ups, we just have to focus on getting those players as healthy and sharp as possible for June and July.
Higgins and Shine did well in 2014 if I can remember correctly. Think it was AOS and SOS in the middle that day for Mayo. Young DOC and COS were thrown in at the deep end and didn't get on many breaks.
Parsons is continuing his form of 2015 and is a big addition from 2014.
It was the two O Sheas v Higgins,C Shine in midfield for the 2014 championship game. I got this from the don't foul website.
Kickouts
Roscommon's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 15 60% 9 60% 7 47%
Mayo 10 40% 6 60% 2 20%
Mayo's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 8 42% 8 100% 8 100%
Mayo 11 58% 8 73% 7 64%
Although the headline numbers show an even contest, with a 23-21 split of kickouts won in favour of Roscommon, when we look a bit deeper Roscommon had by far the better of this contest.
Roscommon managed to convert 65% (15 of 23 won) of their kickouts won to a shot whereas Mayo only converted 43% (9 of 21). Roscommon managed an extra six shots from kickouts.
As can be seen from above the difference is most pronounced on what the teams did with primary possession from the opposition's kickouts. Roscommon won 8 of Mayo's 19 (42%) kickouts – and converted them all to shots. Mayo won 10 of Roscommon's 25 kickouts (40%) but only managed to convert two to a shot.
Perhaps the most surprising element of the kickout battle was how few short kickouts there were – only three combined from the 43 we could track in full (the cameras missed one of the early Roscommon kickouts).
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
It was the two O Sheas v Higgins,C Shine in midfield for the 2014 championship game. I got this from the don't foul website.
Kickouts
Roscommon's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 15 60% 9 60% 7 47%
Mayo 10 40% 6 60% 2 20%
Mayo's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 8 42% 8 100% 8 100%
Mayo 11 58% 8 73% 7 64%
Although the headline numbers show an even contest, with a 23-21 split of kickouts won in favour of Roscommon, when we look a bit deeper Roscommon had by far the better of this contest.
Roscommon managed to convert 65% (15 of 23 won) of their kickouts won to a shot whereas Mayo only converted 43% (9 of 21). Roscommon managed an extra six shots from kickouts.
As can be seen from above the difference is most pronounced on what the teams did with primary possession from the opposition's kickouts. Roscommon won 8 of Mayo's 19 (42%) kickouts – and converted them all to shots. Mayo won 10 of Roscommon's 25 kickouts (40%) but only managed to convert two to a shot.
Perhaps the most surprising element of the kickout battle was how few short kickouts there were – only three combined from the 43 we could track in full (the cameras missed one of the early Roscommon kickouts).
You forgot the most important fact/stat from that day .... Mayo were well below par (in terms of the level of energy/aggression/intensity), but still won
Quote from: blast05 on March 29, 2016, 08:37:44 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
It was the two O Sheas v Higgins,C Shine in midfield for the 2014 championship game. I got this from the don't foul website.
Kickouts
Roscommon's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 15 60% 9 60% 7 47%
Mayo 10 40% 6 60% 2 20%
Mayo's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 8 42% 8 100% 8 100%
Mayo 11 58% 8 73% 7 64%
Although the headline numbers show an even contest, with a 23-21 split of kickouts won in favour of Roscommon, when we look a bit deeper Roscommon had by far the better of this contest.
Roscommon managed to convert 65% (15 of 23 won) of their kickouts won to a shot whereas Mayo only converted 43% (9 of 21). Roscommon managed an extra six shots from kickouts.
As can be seen from above the difference is most pronounced on what the teams did with primary possession from the opposition's kickouts. Roscommon won 8 of Mayo's 19 (42%) kickouts – and converted them all to shots. Mayo won 10 of Roscommon's 25 kickouts (40%) but only managed to convert two to a shot.
Perhaps the most surprising element of the kickout battle was how few short kickouts there were – only three combined from the 43 we could track in full (the cameras missed one of the early Roscommon kickouts).
You forgot the most important fact/stat from that day .... Mayo were well below par (in terms of the level of energy/aggression/intensity), but still won
Or maybe Mayo weren't allowed to display the same energy/aggression/intensity as they were last Sunday.
Quote from: blast05 on March 29, 2016, 08:37:44 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
It was the two O Sheas v Higgins,C Shine in midfield for the 2014 championship game. I got this from the don't foul website.
Kickouts
Roscommon's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 15 60% 9 60% 7 47%
Mayo 10 40% 6 60% 2 20%
Mayo's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 8 42% 8 100% 8 100%
Mayo 11 58% 8 73% 7 64%
Although the headline numbers show an even contest, with a 23-21 split of kickouts won in favour of Roscommon, when we look a bit deeper Roscommon had by far the better of this contest.
Roscommon managed to convert 65% (15 of 23 won) of their kickouts won to a shot whereas Mayo only converted 43% (9 of 21). Roscommon managed an extra six shots from kickouts.
As can be seen from above the difference is most pronounced on what the teams did with primary possession from the opposition's kickouts. Roscommon won 8 of Mayo's 19 (42%) kickouts – and converted them all to shots. Mayo won 10 of Roscommon's 25 kickouts (40%) but only managed to convert two to a shot.
Perhaps the most surprising element of the kickout battle was how few short kickouts there were – only three combined from the 43 we could track in full (the cameras missed one of the early Roscommon kickouts).
You forgot the most important fact/stat from that day .... Mayo were well below par (in terms of the level of energy/aggression/intensity), but still won
The midfield ladeens weren't sitting back having tea and crumpets when those balls were coming in on top of them. Mayo's failings that day echoed their failings against Kerry in both games that year. It all stems from the same place.
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 29, 2016, 08:45:10 PM
Quote from: blast05 on March 29, 2016, 08:37:44 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
It was the two O Sheas v Higgins,C Shine in midfield for the 2014 championship game. I got this from the don't foul website.
Kickouts
Roscommon's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 15 60% 9 60% 7 47%
Mayo 10 40% 6 60% 2 20%
Mayo's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 8 42% 8 100% 8 100%
Mayo 11 58% 8 73% 7 64%
Although the headline numbers show an even contest, with a 23-21 split of kickouts won in favour of Roscommon, when we look a bit deeper Roscommon had by far the better of this contest.
Roscommon managed to convert 65% (15 of 23 won) of their kickouts won to a shot whereas Mayo only converted 43% (9 of 21). Roscommon managed an extra six shots from kickouts.
As can be seen from above the difference is most pronounced on what the teams did with primary possession from the opposition's kickouts. Roscommon won 8 of Mayo's 19 (42%) kickouts – and converted them all to shots. Mayo won 10 of Roscommon's 25 kickouts (40%) but only managed to convert two to a shot.
Perhaps the most surprising element of the kickout battle was how few short kickouts there were – only three combined from the 43 we could track in full (the cameras missed one of the early Roscommon kickouts).
You forgot the most important fact/stat from that day .... Mayo were well below par (in terms of the level of energy/aggression/intensity), but still won
Or maybe Mayo weren't allowed to display the same energy/aggression/intensity as they were last Sunday.
The opposition don't stop you from playing with your normal level of aggression/intensity/energy (AIE).
The opposition can play at higher levels of AIE than you are capable off and this coupled with (or indeed sometimes instead of or even without) higher skill level, smarter players, luck and the 101 other micro ingredients can beat you.
On Sunday, Ros seemed to have a lower than normal AIE thus giving Mayo free reign in the middle third.
In 2014 v Ros, Mayo played at a lower level of AIE than they usually did in championship under James Horan but still won.
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 29, 2016, 08:45:10 PM
Quote from: blast05 on March 29, 2016, 08:37:44 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
It was the two O Sheas v Higgins,C Shine in midfield for the 2014 championship game. I got this from the don't foul website.
Kickouts
Roscommon's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 15 60% 9 60% 7 47%
Mayo 10 40% 6 60% 2 20%
Mayo's kickouts Won % Turned into a possession % Shot %
Roscommon 8 42% 8 100% 8 100%
Mayo 11 58% 8 73% 7 64%
Although the headline numbers show an even contest, with a 23-21 split of kickouts won in favour of Roscommon, when we look a bit deeper Roscommon had by far the better of this contest.
Roscommon managed to convert 65% (15 of 23 won) of their kickouts won to a shot whereas Mayo only converted 43% (9 of 21). Roscommon managed an extra six shots from kickouts.
As can be seen from above the difference is most pronounced on what the teams did with primary possession from the opposition's kickouts. Roscommon won 8 of Mayo's 19 (42%) kickouts – and converted them all to shots. Mayo won 10 of Roscommon's 25 kickouts (40%) but only managed to convert two to a shot.
Perhaps the most surprising element of the kickout battle was how few short kickouts there were – only three combined from the 43 we could track in full (the cameras missed one of the early Roscommon kickouts).
You forgot the most important fact/stat from that day .... Mayo were well below par (in terms of the level of energy/aggression/intensity), but still won
Or maybe Mayo weren't allowed to display the same energy/aggression/intensity as they were last Sunday.
Exactly the physical nature of the Roscommon middle 8 in 2014 compared to last Sunday was like chalk and cheese.
Quote from: larryin89 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
TT has opted out too I'm hearing.
Best of luck to him . Wasn't playing well of late but had some fine days in the green above the red .
Quote from: larryin89 on March 29, 2016, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
TT has opted out too I'm hearing.
Best of luck to him . Wasn't playing well of late but had some fine days in the green above the red .
Are you talking to yourself there Larry?
Quote from: larryin89 on March 29, 2016, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
TT has opted out too I'm hearing.
Best of luck to him . Wasn't playing well of late but had some fine days in the green above the red .
Crippled with injury. Mayo could ever only get one (good) half out of him. For a short period gave Higgins a chance to play center half forward (usually for one half as said earlier).
Just showing off I gave Ye the news before it was news . 😀
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2016, 10:04:36 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 29, 2016, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
TT has opted out too I'm hearing.
Best of luck to him . Wasn't playing well of late but had some fine days in the green above the red .
Crippled with injury. Mayo could ever only get one (good) half out of him. For a short period gave Higgins a chance to play center half forward (usually for one half as said earlier).
Maybe he can get his injuries sorted and come back again. Losing a back with his pace is regrettable.
Quote from: moysider on March 29, 2016, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2016, 10:04:36 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 29, 2016, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
TT has opted out too I'm hearing.
Best of luck to him . Wasn't playing well of late but had some fine days in the green above the red .
Crippled with injury. Mayo could ever only get one (good) half out of him. For a short period gave Higgins a chance to play center half forward (usually for one half as said earlier).
Maybe he can get his injuries sorted and come back again. Losing a back with his pace is regrettable.
What age is he? Must be close to 30.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 29, 2016, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2016, 10:04:36 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 29, 2016, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
TT has opted out too I'm hearing.
Best of luck to him . Wasn't playing well of late but had some fine days in the green above the red .
Crippled with injury. Mayo could ever only get one (good) half out of him. For a short period gave Higgins a chance to play center half forward (usually for one half as said earlier).
Maybe he can get his injuries sorted and come back again. Losing a back with his pace is regrettable.
What age is he? Must be close to 30.
He's about 29/30! He had a year out in 2012 to sort out injuries. I'd say the body has had enough. I'd say even club commitments are a big ask for him.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2016, 11:27:53 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 29, 2016, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2016, 10:04:36 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 29, 2016, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
TT has opted out too I'm hearing.
Best of luck to him . Wasn't playing well of late but had some fine days in the green above the red .
Crippled with injury. Mayo could ever only get one (good) half out of him. For a short period gave Higgins a chance to play center half forward (usually for one half as said earlier).
Maybe he can get his injuries sorted and come back again. Losing a back with his pace is regrettable.
What age is he? Must be close to 30.
He's about 29/30! He had a year out in 2012 to sort out injuries. I'd say the body has had enough. I'd say even club commitments are a big ask for him.
Age not an issue. Kerry have lads mid 30's anchoring their team - Marc O Sé and O Mahoney. Both flyin' around the place.
Injuries take a bigger toll. Best of luck to Tom. He's a fella I would have liked to have around but he knows best.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 29, 2016, 03:38:28 PM
Was impressed with Evan Regan.
Good addition to have a direct runner in the FF line.
He'd want to get himself a proper haircut though.
Fellas with fancy haircuts tend to be unreliable.
He is bringing back the Tommy Dowd Shhtyle haircut ;). There was nothining unreliable about him, well on the pitch anyway ;D.
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 30, 2016, 12:06:24 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 29, 2016, 03:38:28 PM
Was impressed with Evan Regan.
Good addition to have a direct runner in the FF line.
He'd want to get himself a proper haircut though.
Fellas with fancy haircuts tend to be unreliable.
He is bringing back the Tommy Dowd Shhtyle haircut ;). There was nothining unreliable about him, well on the pitch anyway ;D.
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The which?
Quote from: moysider on March 30, 2016, 12:02:40 AM
Crippled with injury. Mayo could ever only get one (good) half out of him. For a short period gave Higgins a chance to play center half forward (usually for one half as said earlier).
Maybe he can get his injuries sorted and come back again. Losing a back with his pace is regrettable.
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What age is he? Must be close to 30.
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He's about 29/30! He had a year out in 2012 to sort out injuries. I'd say the body has had enough. I'd say even club commitments are a big ask for him.
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Age not an issue. Kerry have lads mid 30's anchoring their team - Marc O Sé and O Mahoney. Both flyin' around the place.
Injuries take a bigger toll. Best of luck to Tom. He's a fella I would have liked to have around but he knows best.[/quote]
Staying injury free I think is key if you are going to have an intercounty career into your 30s - I don't think O'Se or O'Mahoney had any serious injuries at any stage.
Interesting (and what I would regard as positive from a Mayo perspective) comments from Tony McEntee in the Irish Times today. Very reluctant to give any praise for the Roscommon victory given the performance level was below what he was expecting. And not afraid to say the focus is on September.
Also got a dig in for some reason at Donegal, saying they are overtrained.
Quote from: Hound on March 30, 2016, 02:48:47 PM
Interesting (and what I would regard as positive from a Mayo perspective) comments from Tony McEntee in the Irish Times today. Very reluctant to give any praise for the Roscommon victory given the performance level was below what he was expecting. And not afraid to say the focus is on September.
Also got a dig in for some reason at Donegal, saying they are overtrained.
It's all grand saying the right things. Mayo still have exactly the same frailties they had last year and in any of the Horan years. McEntee and Rochford were both more effusive of Mayo 'performance' on Mid-West after the match so I think you're reading far too much into a bit of print.
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2016, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: Hound on March 30, 2016, 02:48:47 PM
Interesting (and what I would regard as positive from a Mayo perspective) comments from Tony McEntee in the Irish Times today. Very reluctant to give any praise for the Roscommon victory given the performance level was below what he was expecting. And not afraid to say the focus is on September.
Also got a dig in for some reason at Donegal, saying they are overtrained.
It's all grand saying the right things. Mayo still have exactly the same frailties they had last year and in any of the Horan years. McEntee and Rochford were both more effusive of Mayo 'performance' on Mid-West after the match so I think you're reading far too much into a bit of print.
I don't think anyone said anywhere that Mayo have addressed their frailties from recent years.
At the same stage, they have been a kick of a ball from beating Dublin and Kerry in the last 2 years and people thinking that the gap has widended, just because of a couple of poor league performances without some key players, would be jumping the gun.
I don't know any Mayo man who thought they played well at the weekend. They are the third best team in the country and rightly should have high standards and have the aim of being in the mix in September.
Quote from: Hound on March 30, 2016, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2016, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: Hound on March 30, 2016, 02:48:47 PM
Interesting (and what I would regard as positive from a Mayo perspective) comments from Tony McEntee in the Irish Times today. Very reluctant to give any praise for the Roscommon victory given the performance level was below what he was expecting. And not afraid to say the focus is on September.
Also got a dig in for some reason at Donegal, saying they are overtrained.
It's all grand saying the right things. Mayo still have exactly the same frailties they had last year and in any of the Horan years. McEntee and Rochford were both more effusive of Mayo 'performance' on Mid-West after the match so I think you're reading far too much into a bit of print.
I don't think anyone said anywhere that Mayo have addressed their frailties from recent years.
At the same stage, they have been a kick of a ball from beating Dublin and Kerry in the last 2 years and people thinking that the gap has widended, just because of a couple of poor league performances without some key players, would be jumping the gun.
I don't know any Mayo man who thought they played well at the weekend. They are the third best team in the country and rightly should have high standards and have the aim of being in the mix in September.
not too many frailties when your in the top 2/3 teams in the country for as long as mayo. big expectations bring big disappointments but if mayo are frail 30 counties are made of Glass
Very quiet here these days.
Regan was a shining light for us 3 years ago. Interesting to see what he does on Saturday evening.
Quote from: highorlow on January 24, 2019, 08:19:41 PM
Very quiet here these days.
Regan was a shining light for us 3 years ago. Interesting to see what he does on Saturday evening.
I suppose scoring well against Roscommon comes with a health warning. For example Richie Donnelly for Tyrone looked the part last summer v Roscommon only to struggle in the games afterwards against more organized defenses.
Saturday night is a good opportunity to see if Roscommon have really improved defensively (can't read much into the FBD) for some old habits die hard.
Not one backward step will be taken.
Ros number 13 could be in a bit of bother looking at a video from Michael quirke's twitter feed.