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That's why it's not a black card for me. I didn't see anything that would suggest it was deliberate, it might have been but unless you're 100% sure then you can't issue a card that ends a man's game.

In that case, the "late" tackle which occurs right after the release of the ball needs to be taken out of the list of offenses for black cards. Because how is anyone ever going to know someone's intent for sure? If intent, no matter how briefly considered, is the issue, and not the action.

[The referee also can't be 100% which in itself should not result in the issuance of the card.]

There is no way anybody but Donnelly knows if he did what he did intentionally or not.  For people on here to say he definitely did or didn't is tripe. The referee also can't be 100% which in itself should not result in the issuance of the card.  I don't see how Donnelly would intentionally through himself into a man in a position (star) that left him so vulnerable to a serious injury.

By that logic, half the decisions referees make shouldn't be made at all! All kinds of stuff should be just let go.

[Are the Dubs still the only losing provincial finalists to overcome the 6 day turnaround?]

Disgrace that Rossie are penalised for last weeks game being a draw and having only 6 days to recover from todays defeat. Same happened to Monaghan last week.

I do feel sorry for the Roscommon players as this is not a fair situation on them really, I'd be very unhappy if Galway were in the same position. Roscommon looked a beaten docket today, how can you possibly turn that around in 6 days? Are the Dubs still the only losing provincial finalists to overcome the 6 day turnaround?

Donegal in 2013 beat Laois after six days.

Think there have been a couple of others listed on other threads.

 

A good place to start would be going into crime ridden neighbourhoods and trying to get some sort of money for guns given up with no details of people taken or any follow up on guns taken .

Don't you realize that lots of gun buyback programs like that already exist?

NRA didn't like one in Arizona and got legislation passed that made it illegal for such guns to be destroyed, instead requiring that they be sold to dealers for recirculation.

of course I do and the good citizens are returning them in droves I'm sure .

Is that sarcasm?

If so, why advocate for the program in the first place?

Obama didn't have any problem selling guns to Mexican cartels which ended in a lot of murders on both sides of the border .

You do realize "gun walking", the attempt to trace the illegal gun trade around the border which culminated in the Fast and Furious operation, started under the Bush administration in 2006?

Misguided/dumb it may have been in that people died (albeit, I doubt if the cartels would have short of guns anyway) and none of the big wigs they were after were caught, only relatively minor characters, but the political appointees on both sides of the aisle approved the respective operations.

A good place to start would be going into crime ridden neighbourhoods and trying to get some sort of money for guns given up with no details of people taken or any follow up on guns taken .

Don't you realize that lots of gun buyback programs like that already exist?

NRA didn't like one in Arizona and got legislation passed that made it illegal for such guns to be destroyed, instead requiring that they be sold to dealers for recirculation.

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One more thing:

Different now execution and ambush style killings as seen again today in Louisiana and wait and see what mr Obama comes out with its a terrible tragedy but but but ,same with Isis no leadership a lame duck clown

when he goes to a memorial for the killed officers he should stop lecturing everyone about how rascist America is including the cops not the time or place. He talks about how we are flooding inner cities with guns Who is flooding the inner cities with guns ,I'm not my neighbours are not the gangbangers in there want guns and they will get them one way or another.
There have been about 2000 shootings in his home constituency of Chicago this year and about 350 murders 90% black on black and I don't think I ever heard him comment on it because that's an awkward truth he doesn't want to address ,no crackers or cops to blame there.
All the crime ridden inner cities are democrat run so take some responsibility .
Lastly I recently heard him make a statement that a Latino woman only earns  50% of what a white male earns no context just a stupid line , he needs to remember he is the president of all America not black America or minority america and he's not a rabble rouser community leader but president of the usa

The question was what should he do, not what shouldn't he do.

But then you support the people who put the guns there in the first place. You also support the people who consistently block Obama's attempts to reduce the number and calibre of available guns. And you support arming every crackpot that might take a potshot at a cop and leaves them completely vulnerable and prone to shooting innocent people themselves.

The blood is on your own hands, not Obama's.

the answer is he can do nothing because he's out of his depth ,he's a rabble rouser community organiser . I do not support everyone having guns especially high powered rifles but the guns are there and people who own them legally are not giving them up because they think rightly or wrongly that they will have no protection from criminals who own guns illegally . As I said most crime ridden places are all democrat run for years they have no solutions but the people there keep voting for them ,like turkeys voting for Christmas . The easy thing is blame racism for all problems in the black community while the democrats in charge get away with doing nothing to solve the problems.

Who is blaming racism for all the problems of black inner city neighbourhoods?

One more thing:

Different now execution and ambush style killings as seen again today in Louisiana and wait and see what mr Obama comes out with its a terrible tragedy but but but ,same with Isis no leadership a lame duck clown

when he goes to a memorial for the killed officers he should stop lecturing everyone about how rascist America is including the cops not the time or place. He talks about how we are flooding inner cities with guns Who is flooding the inner cities with guns ,I'm not my neighbours are not the gangbangers in there want guns and they will get them one way or another.
There have been about 2000 shootings in his home constituency of Chicago this year and about 350 murders 90% black on black and I don't think I ever heard him comment on it because that's an awkward truth he doesn't want to address ,no crackers or cops to blame there.
All the crime ridden inner cities are democrat run so take some responsibility .
Lastly I recently heard him make a statement that a Latino woman only earns  50% of what a white male earns no context just a stupid line , he needs to remember he is the president of all America not black America or minority america and he's not a rabble rouser community leader but president of the usa

You've never heard him comment on it because you didn't look or listen very hard or even do a cursory Google search.

An article from 18 months ago...

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/12/01/fox-news-pundit-cant-remember-any-of-these-time/201725

Hereare statements he made THREE DAYS AGO...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/obama-murder-rate-african-american-community-whack/story?id=40592847

From last October...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/obama-police-chief-chicago-scapegoat-black-lives-matter/412717/

Finally, acknowledging a problem exists is not the same as assigning blame to one side.

And the speech he made at the memorial was superb. How the hell can a president go to a memorial for cops murdered by a racist, deranged black man in response to the killing of unarmed black men by cops and not talk about the issue? If you have specific points you disagree with, then bring them up.

As for the inner cities - guns are pretty much illegal in NYC. Still doesn't stop the streets being flooded by guns coming in from states where they are legal.

So, if we somehow recover and beat Cork or Mayo (as if!), its Tyrone again or the Dubs in the quarter final for Donegal?

Good times...

Definitely the Dubs if ye make the qf....beat Mayo, Dublin, Kerry and ye get a shot at revenge in the final against Tyrone

One more thing Foxcommander. You claim that As seen in the likes of Baltimore and Feguson, BLM is a magnet for those who want to use it as an excuse to riot and loot. Others just want to cash in on the trend (Like Jay-Z and Beyoncé) to further careers and make money off the back of it the same as Al and Jesse have done for years.

So what is the breakdown here? What is the proportion of BLM marches/protests that have involved riots and looting?

You're blaming them for this murderer's actions. What proportion of BLM activities have lead to murders, of police or otherwise?

I would ask you what the response of black people SHOULD be to the various unnecessary killings of black men by police, but that would require your acknowledgement that a problem even exists.

Feel stupid yet J70?

Looting and rioting in Baton Rouge has led to todays events. BLM is the group that gets these folk together.

So it's only if a police officer is killed first that shooting an armed killer who happens to be a black person is in any way justifiable in the minds of BLM supporters and liberal leaning folk?



How about this for BLM instruction and recruitment. There are some right r-tards in the crowd clapping their own demise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIr-B686kog

1. I have no problem with anyone calling for the killing of cops or the use of violence against cops or anyone else being charged and arrested. I don't see how that can be protected speech.
2. You still haven't answered the question about the proportion of BLM marches/protests that have involved riots and looting/murders, of police or otherwise.
3. And if BLM should be shut down because of a few nuts who took things too far, then what about the anti-abortion movement?

Interesting that you had to wait a week to respond to my question. Given your apparent knowledge of all things black and BLM, I'm sure the facts are at your fingertips?

One more thing:

Different now execution and ambush style killings as seen again today in Louisiana and wait and see what mr Obama comes out with its a terrible tragedy but but but ,same with Isis no leadership a lame duck clown

Out of genuine interest, what should Obama be doing in terms of "leadership" on the recent police killings?

So, if we somehow recover and beat Cork or Mayo (as if!), its Tyrone again or the Dubs in the quarter final for Donegal?

Good times...

What was your gaago like j70? Mine was terrible skiping and jumpin all over the show

Brutal.

Think it was the last free Murphy hit, he was beginning his run up and a split second later the shot of the Donegal sideline punching the air was being shown!

Like that all through, skipping forward and stalling.

Throw in a two-year old climbing all over me, and I missed one or two bits such as the incident with Anthony Thompson you're all moaning about.

Exact same thing for me on the Murphy free! that confirms it was them then and not the Provider

And the money ye fork out for it, Useless b**tards!

Bring back Premium Sports!

Ye can watch it again now sure and you'll see the Thomspon tackle......we await your comments

It will be a while before I watch that again. Football was bad enough without throwing in an injury time loss in a final!

What was your gaago like j70? Mine was terrible skiping and jumpin all over the show

Brutal.

Think it was the last free Murphy hit, he was beginning his run up and a split second later the shot of the Donegal sideline punching the air was being shown!

Like that all through, skipping forward and stalling.

Throw in a two-year old climbing all over me, and I missed one or two bits such as the incident with Anthony Thompson you're all moaning about.

[He didnt escape... he just wasn't wearing the right jersey]

Tyrone hard done by by ref. How was there no red card for kick on Cavanagh?

That clown Coldrick actually gave a yellow card for it, which defies logic, and then couple of seconds later Thompson committed a rugby tackle and he ignored it completely 

Think Thompson escaped because he pulled his hands away as he fell. Ref may have thought he slipped. He was very lucky.

He didnt escape... he just wasn't wearing the right jersey

O'Rourke proclaimed he was the best referee in the country as well at half time

You're usually so rational and logical Joe!