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Tyrone Club Fixtures 2014 - Lets try and help them sort it out
« on: October 25, 2013, 03:22:18 PM »
Guys, I think we’re all in agreement that Club Fixtures in Tyrone this year have been a complete mess and while we’re all quick to claim that the fixtures committee are incompetent, we have to accept that it is a difficult enough task. Although surely couldn’t be that difficult…..

So I was thinking, looking ahead to 2014, we could try and plan out how next years season should be fixtured

I’ve tried to find confirmed dates for competitions next year, and guessed the rest. Hopefully you can help me fill in the rest & point out my mistakes.

I’ll stick the spreadsheet online somewhere so you guys can edit and help this little project along

So far, I’ve been thinking about
Competitions that affect the Tyrone Adult Club league Fixtures;
1.   Ulster Club Championships
2.   Senior Inter-County Competitions
3.   Minor Inter-County Competitions
4.   Club Hurling Competitions
5.   Club U21 Competitions
6.   Club Minor Competitions

Lets just look at 1,2 & 3 for now…

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Ulster Senior/Int/Junior Club Football Championships
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 03:26:07 PM »
Is it Tyrone V Down Clubs next year following the Inter County Ulster Championship draws? Or is that not how it works?
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2013
1st December - Ulster Final
17th November – Ulster Semi-Final
3rd November- Ulster Quarter Final
20th October – First Round

2014 – assumed/guessed dates
30th November - Ulster Final
16th November – Ulster Semi-Final
2ndNovember- Ulster Quarter Final
19th October – First Round

County Champions needed by 5th October 2014 = 2 weeks until Ulster Club first round
What if Final goes to a Replay?
•   Play replay the following Sunday, leaving only 1 week rest?
•   Or have finals 3 weeks before Ulster Club to accommodate – is this too long?

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Senior Inter- County Competitions
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 03:29:16 PM »
McKenna Cup - doesn't effect the club leagues but we'll stick it in
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2013 – what happened
6th January– Group Game
9th January– Group Game
13th January– Group Game
16th January– Group Game
20th January– Semi-Final
26th January– Final

2014 – assumed
5th January– Group Game
8th January– Group Game
12th January– Group Game
15th January – Group Game
19th January –Semi Final
25th January – Final

National Football League Provisional Fixtures
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1st Feb Derry V Tyrone
9th Feb Tyrone v Mayo
2nd March Kildare v Tyrone
9th March Kerry v Tyrone
16th March Tyrone v Westmeath
30th March Cork v Tyrone
6th April Tyrone v Dublin.

13th April Semi- Final –
27th April – Final


Why are there no NFL games fixtured for the last 2 weeks in Feb?? This makes it run well into April when club leagues should be started
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Ulster Football Championship
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 03:33:23 PM »

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2013
19th May - Preliminary Round
26th May - Quarter Final
2nd June - Quarter Final
9th June Quarter Final
16th June - Quarter Final (Preliminary Round Winners)
23rd June - Semi-Final
29th June – Semi-Final
21st July - Ulster Final

2014
Preliminary Round - Tyrone v Down

Quarter-finals(B)
Armagh v Cavan
Monaghan v Tyrone/Down

Winners to play in semi-final(B)

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18th May - Preliminary Round (3 weeks after NFL Final)
25th May - Quarter Final
1st June - Quarter Final
8th June Quarter Final
15th June - Quarter Final (Preliminary Round Winners – 4 weeks after first game)
23rd June - Semi-Final (A)
29th June – Semi-Final (B)
20th July - Ulster Final

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All-Ireland Qualifiers..
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 03:34:55 PM »
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Qualifiers
2013
29th June Round 1
13th July Round 2
20th July Round 3
27th July Round 4

2014
This is the complicated bit, I'll fill this in later :)

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All-Ireland Series
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 03:35:52 PM »
2013
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All-Ireland Series

2013
3rd August Quarter Finals
4th August Quarter Finals

25th August Semi-Final
1st September Semi-Final

22nd Sept Final

2014
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2014
2nd August Quarter Finals
3rd August Quarter Finals

24th August Semi-Final
31st August Semi-Final

21st Sept Final

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Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures 2014 - Lets try and help them sort it out
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 03:40:32 PM »
below shows the dates the Div 1 league has mainly been run since 2010. The orange dates show how many rounds had been played before the July holidays
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I'll add the other divisions later - Division 3 has 16 rounds rather than 15
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Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures 2014 - Lets try and help them sort it out
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 04:02:18 PM »
County Fixtures to Ulster Final, assuming we get there
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Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures 2014 - Lets try and help them sort it out
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 04:30:08 PM »
good idea wee dons
im sure there are a few CCC lurkers on here  ;)
if we can provide any useful input we may aswell instead of just complaining.

re: the county final - ulster club timescale, i think 2 weeks is enough,if there happens to be a draw, well so be it, its unfortunate for the winners, but i think most clubs would be happen enough with 2 weeks providing there are no draws.
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Re: Senior Inter- County Competitions
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 11:39:50 PM »
McKenna Cup - doesn't effect the club leagues but we'll stick it in
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2013 – what happened
6th January– Group Game
9th January– Group Game
13th January– Group Game
16th January– Group Game
20th January– Semi-Final
26th January– Final

2014 – assumed
5th January– Group Game
8th January– Group Game
12th January– Group Game
15th January – Group Game
19th January –Semi Final
25th January – Final

National Football League Provisional Fixtures
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1st Feb Derry V Tyrone
9th Feb Tyrone v Mayo
2nd March Kildare v Tyrone
9th March Kerry v Tyrone
16th March Tyrone v Westmeath
30th March Cork v Tyrone
6th April Tyrone v Dublin.

13th April Semi- Final –
27th April – Final


Why are there no NFL games fixtured for the last 2 weeks in Feb?? This makes it run well into April when club leagues should be started
Is that for the Sigerson cup?

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Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures 2014 - Lets try and help them sort it out
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 11:50:53 PM »
Should Easter be kept free or is that a good time to start the leagues?
After that I think we should look to have a couple of rounds of Friday & Sunday games on 03/05 May and 24/26 May.

Then it is a series of either / or scenarios dependant upon Tyrones progress. If they are put out go he'll for leather with fixtures every week until the qualifiers, if they stay in Ulster it is more double weekends 04/06 and 11/13 July. Either way we should be aiming to have about 8 league matches by mid July, more if we have a few rounds of starred fixtures in the weeks before Tyrone games.

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Re: Senior Inter- County Competitions
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2013, 08:34:44 AM »

National Football League Provisional Fixtures
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1st Feb Derry V Tyrone
9th Feb Tyrone v Mayo
2nd March Kildare v Tyrone
9th March Kerry v Tyrone
16th March Tyrone v Westmeath
30th March Cork v Tyrone
6th April Tyrone v Dublin.

13th April Semi- Final –
27th April – Final


Why are there no NFL games fixtured for the last 2 weeks in Feb?? This makes it run well into April when club leagues should be started
Is that for the Sigerson cup?

That must be what it is.

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Should Easter be kept free or is that a good time to start the leagues?
After that I think we should look to have a couple of rounds of Friday & Sunday games on 03/05 May and 24/26 May.

Personally I'd prefer Easter to remain a free weekend.
I'd be inclined to play the first two league games the two weekends before, even though Tyrone will definitely be playing the first Sunday, both if they make the semi-final.


Could anyone tell me what the agreement is on Starred games? Also whats the 13 day rule, is it just for Championship games?

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Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures 2014 - Lets try and help them sort it out
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 08:53:48 AM »
Good idea this.

How many starred games were there this year?

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Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures 2014 - Lets try and help them sort it out
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2013, 08:58:02 AM »
5 starred games this year.
I think this is what had been agreed with the clubs.

One idea i heard thrown about was for the two May bank holidays, playing the games on the friday night.
This would leave the rest of the weekend guaranteed to be free.
If clubs/players new that these two weekends were free every year, it leaves it alot easier to plan things like club functions/fundraisers/stag dos without clashes with fixtures.
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Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures 2014 - Lets try and help them sort it out
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2013, 09:31:52 AM »
We'll start planning out all the possible scenarios
Scenario 1
Win Ulster, go all the way to AIF
Scenario 2
Knocked out in first round, go all the way to AIF
Scenario 3
Knocked out in Ulster Qtr Final, go all the way to AIF
Scenario 4
Knocked out in Ulster Semi- Final, go all the way to AIF
Scenario 5
Knocked out in Ulster Final, go all the way to AIF

Many more involving the qualifiers..

I'll start with the easy ones.
In the links below, you can see how we could have 10 league games played by the July break, if;

- We play on the 2x bank holiday weekends - Friday nights I'm sure would be preferred?
- the first 3 rounds are starred games ( Round 1 definitely starred, 2& 3 only if Tyrone make league Semi & Final)
- Play on Fri/Sat if Tyrone have a league game on Sunday
- No games on Tyrone Championship weekends
- Easter weekend free


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Scenario 1
Win Ulster, go all the way to AIF
•   Scenario 1A = Quarter Final A + Semi Final A
Fixtures_2014_Scenario_1A.xls
•   Scenario 1B = Quartet Final A + Semi Final B
Fixtures_2014_Scenario_1B.xls
•   Scenario 1C = Quarter Final B + Semi Final A
Fixtures_2014_Scenario_1C.xls
•   Scenario 1D = Quarter Final B + Semi Final B
Fixtures_2014_Scenario_1D.xls

* You could argue that we should play a starred round of fixtures on the weekend of the Preliminary round as the game is in Omagh, so it's not like people would be making a weekend away for it in Dublin etc like later on in the Championship
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