FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

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Baile Brigín 2

We can argue he doesn't have the players, but he choses not to pick his best ones.

Bazunu has the shirt, but a part time player ahead of Randolph?

3 at the back and a holding midfielder at home to Azerbaijan?

Molumby ahead of Browne or Hourihan?

McClean full stop. Love the man and his passion but he has dropped 3 divisions in 3 years club wise. He wasn't magnificent to start abd those days are a distant memory.

What am I missing about Troy Parrott? He is so far off this standard its frightening. The lad will be in the LoI in 2 years. But at least those in the know say he has potential. Connolly is absolutely shite. So why are they in ahead of Robinson? There are a half dozen LoI players with more technical ability, experience and goals who just didn't have the luck to wash through an EPL club and pick up a few games.

I profoundly agree with his overall philosophy that we can play decent football and the kick and chase thing lasted a decade longer than it should have and that the Irish game needs to stop being so dependent and obsessed with England. But to win the war he needs to start winning some battles, and playing prospects who clearly aren't ready is failing. Forget about blooding youth with a view 2 years down the road for now. He won't be here in 2 years on this form.

seafoid


general

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 05, 2021, 01:31:40 AM
We can argue he doesn't have the players, but he choses not to pick his best ones.

Bazunu has the shirt, but a part time player ahead of Randolph?


Randolph is 3rd choice GK at West Ham - He left his previous club to sit on the bench for a PL team and pick up an easy pay packet. good servant but his time is gone

Bazunu is 1st choice at portsmouth, still learning his trade however at least he plays week in week out.

Capt Pat

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I think Kelleher is the best goalie we have at the moment. Goalkeeper is not the problem though.


general_lee

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 05, 2021, 01:31:40 AM
I profoundly agree with his overall philosophy that we can play decent football and the kick and chase thing lasted a decade longer than it should have and that the Irish game needs to stop being so dependent and obsessed with England. But to win the war he needs to start winning some battles, and playing prospects who clearly aren't ready is failing. Forget about blooding youth with a view 2 years down the road for now. He won't be here in 2 years on this form.
What is this fascination with "playing football?" I'd rather the team were competitive and not be entertained rather than watch embarrassing results against minnows. Ireland simply haven't the players. How can the north go out with a similar standard team and thump Lithuania 4-1 away?
And why not be dependent and obsessed with England? That's where every young Irish player aspires to play top flight football. Which country should we take cues from instead?

Itchy

Quote from: general_lee on September 05, 2021, 09:45:25 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 05, 2021, 01:31:40 AM
I profoundly agree with his overall philosophy that we can play decent football and the kick and chase thing lasted a decade longer than it should have and that the Irish game needs to stop being so dependent and obsessed with England. But to win the war he needs to start winning some battles, and playing prospects who clearly aren't ready is failing. Forget about blooding youth with a view 2 years down the road for now. He won't be here in 2 years on this form.
What is this fascination with "playing football?" I'd rather the team were competitive and not be entertained rather than watch embarrassing results against minnows. Ireland simply haven't the players. How can the north go out with a similar standard team and thump Lithuania 4-1 away?
And why not be dependent and obsessed with England? That's where every young Irish player aspires to play top flight football. Which country should we take cues from instead?

Firstly I didnt see the game last night as I was at a club gaa match. However are you not contradicting yourself there. The North play football, they don't hoof it, they won 4-1. They started a journey playing luke that a number of years ago. It started badly but it improved. Ireland have just started that journey.

And why would they want to play proper football?  Well the main reason is that teams are much better these days and conceding the ball cheaply by hoofing it at a big lad is almost comparable to the idea of kick and catch GAA of 50 yrs ago. You will lose and continue to lose long term. Ireland need to move forward like all the other hoofers of scandanavia have already done.

All that being said, that was a poor result last night.

seafoid

Looking at the group the 2 supposedly "weak" teams ie Azerbaijan and Luxembourg are well.able to play soccer.
Luxembourg have 6 points.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: general_lee on September 05, 2021, 09:45:25 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 05, 2021, 01:31:40 AM
I profoundly agree with his overall philosophy that we can play decent football and the kick and chase thing lasted a decade longer than it should have and that the Irish game needs to stop being so dependent and obsessed with England. But to win the war he needs to start winning some battles, and playing prospects who clearly aren't ready is failing. Forget about blooding youth with a view 2 years down the road for now. He won't be here in 2 years on this form.
What is this fascination with "playing football?" I'd rather the team were competitive and not be entertained rather than watch embarrassing results against minnows. Ireland simply haven't the players. How can the north go out with a similar standard team and thump Lithuania 4-1 away?
And why not be dependent and obsessed with England? That's where every young Irish player aspires to play top flight football. Which country should we take cues from instead?

And Mick O'Neill had an appaling start changing the culture. This is our equivalent. But my point is MON was more tactically savvy.

If you think we struggled against Azerbaijan imagine what would have happened if we constantly gave them the ball? Does your football county/club play the same style they did 30 years ago?

Brexit. That avenue is shut. They shut it. Kids need to stay at home or start learning German.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: seafoid on September 05, 2021, 12:16:55 PM
Looking at the group the 2 supposedly "weak" teams ie Azerbaijan and Luxembourg are well.able to play soccer.
Luxembourg have 6 points.

It's a cliche but there are very few 'weak' international sides left, especially in Europe. What we have is an odd fanbase

imtommygunn

On the contrary I would say you have a lot more weak teams meaning it looks like teams that were, and still are, weak look as good as some ones who previously weren't weak but now are...

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 02:38:37 PM
On the contrary I would say you have a lot more weak teams meaning it looks like teams that were, and still are, weak look as good as some ones who previously weren't weak but now are...

So Iceland, Luxembourg, Azerbaijan, the Faroese aren't improving?

imtommygunn

They possibly are a bit but the standard of international football is dropping a lot. You can do very well qualification wise by just being organised.

seafoid

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 02:57:04 PM
They possibly are a bit but the standard of international football is dropping a lot. You can do very well qualification wise by just being organised.
A good striker goes a long way

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: seafoid on September 05, 2021, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 02:57:04 PM
They possibly are a bit but the standard of international football is dropping a lot. You can do very well qualification wise by just being organised.
A good striker goes a long way

Playing the only one in your squad actually scoring goals goes a long way too