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#16
€1.5m Million East Leinster Project

John Horan - GAA President

"The programme we're putting in East Leinster [focusing on Louth, Meath, Kildare and Wicklow] will put that on the table for the counties and their bigger clubs: do they want to part-fund a position and, if they want to, they get a full coach like in Dublin. If they're not in a position to half-fund it, well then they can get a smaller contribution.

"The funding is expected to at least double and even treble the number of full-time coaching positions in some if not all four counties"

From the Leinster GAA Annual Report 2017

I reflected recently on a previous annual report booklet where a respected GAA official recalled Peig Sawyers and the practice of 'ag
bothantaíocht'. Michael Delaney was referring to the Urbanisation of East Leinster and the lack of action in trying to address this issue. Well
Michael, we have made considerable progress in this area in the last year.


In an attempt to close the obvious gaps, we made a proposal to management in Croke Park that an increase in funding into a four county
region in the province would be a great help. This was accepted and as a result a fund of 500K per year for 3 years is being put in place. This
was funded by 300K from central funds and 200k from Dublin's budget. The first of these appointments of a new coach occurred in
Dunboyne, to which the club make a contribution to the cost themselves. This, I feel, will have a huge impact on improving our performance
on the ground in the East Leinster region. Other areas in the province will not suffer as their positions will be under constant scrutiny in
relation to their needs


taken from Leinster GAA Annual Report 2017 available at the link
http://leinstergaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2018/01/LConv_17_WEB-2.pdf
#17
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
September 13, 2018, 01:25:23 PM
Regarding Bricks and Mortar,

Dubs in the rough over closure of Spawell golf centre in Templeogue
September 9 2018

More than 900 people have signed a petition calling for Dublin GAA not to close a golf facility, including a pitch-and-putt course and driving range, that forms part of a commercial complex it bought last year for more than €9m.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/50390ea6-b38d-11e8-a565-f2666ba9742c
#18
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
September 13, 2018, 03:28:23 AM
found this informative well balanced article (2016) from former Kerry player Mike Quirke about Games Promotion Officers at the time (now Games Development Administrators) and funding relating to Dublin, worth reading in my opinion.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/we-can-all-take-lessons-from-dublin-winning-blueprint-403728.html

#19
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
September 12, 2018, 01:45:00 PM
Jan 2018

"Dublin GAA has taken back the gym equipment that the county had funded and installed at the GAA's National Development Centre in Abbotstown."

"Dublin development and underage squads had primarily been using the facility but it involved usage by the senior squads from time to time. However, this arrangement is now at an end."

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-gaa-take-back-gym-gear-from-gaa-national-development-centre-36480868.html
#20
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
September 12, 2018, 02:47:18 AM
priceyreilly - I think people refer to the Commercial income/AIG sponsorship etc more often as its in the news more etc and more quotable. There are more sponsorship partners etc involved and the use of these can have benefits eg subaru & gibson hotel etc for the team and for their sponsors too. I would not be quick to blame Dublin GAA on this, any county in their position would/should do this.

On the Annual reports containing financial details some county boards do make them available for example Mayo's is available
and interests parties such as season ticket holders etc could look through and see where money is spent.
here is a link to Mayo's past ones -http://mayogaa.com/content_page/18068/ good luck with finding some other counties!

The figure 2.7m - Strategic Review Committee is about the plan to save the GAA in Dublin, I think a lot of people can't understand how this plan is in place but the GAA participation rate were/arent as high in comparison to other counties. If you take your county hat off and put your GAA hat on you would not like to see the GAA solely becoming a rural sport and the further possibility of it dying out in the distant future. I think a lot of people do not realise that its Soccer vs Rugby vs GAA vs other sports and no parish link as in rural areas. Take a look at the registered players vs county population figures to back this up, for a city the size of Dublin its inadequate.

Have a look at the Blue Wave Document - http://www.stsylvesters.ie/files/the-blue-wave.pdf you will see Pauric Duffy's comments and the Chairman on Dublin's strategic review committee. You could argue why put money into this and not into other counties instead but what would happen if you did nothing or not enough in the future years.

Incidently the GAA's Strategic Review Committee in 2002 recommeded that Dublin be split into two. heres the link https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/tale-of-two-city-teams-dominates-gaa-review-1.1047385, this has obviously not happened
but money has still gone into the Dublin Strategic Review Commitee. People argue that a monster has being created, however it was a difficult position to be put in a few years deciding where to allocate funds.

Just read that article from Dermot Crowe and he has made some valid points in relation to Dublin GAA. Would be interesting to see how the East Leinster Project pans outs https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/15m-gaa-funding-boost-for-east-leinster-project-34934104.html
GAA President John Horan - "We're not going around with our heads in the sand. We need a marketable product to keep sponsors going and we need a marketable product to get supporters to come, you can't have those big gaps that exist between Dublin and the rest. This is an attempt to address that."

I would be interested in hearing peoples thoughts on this.
#21
6th Sept - The AFL Competition Committee is meeting next week with a view to introducing fixed formations at the restart after a score
in the next season, this season had the lowest scoring points per game in 50 years and congestion has been an increasing issue
for the game.

"With defensive strategies improved, data has shown the effect congestion has on the ability of players to demonstrate their skills and move the ball from end to end"

"Introduction of the six-six-six starting position at centre bounces could see the first phase of play after a centre bounce being more open with forwards and defenders engaging in one-on-one battles."

May have some merit in Gaelic Football but would need another referee to police in my opinion.

heres a link to the full article
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-competition-committee-to-look-at-6-6-6-next-week-20180906-p50224.html

Cunny funt - great video of Mayo v Dublin pulldowns you posted to illustrate a need to change the rules.
Andy Moran favours a 50 metre style penalty to be introduced for it.
http://www.the42.ie/andy-moran-50-yard-penalty-call-3925202-Mar2018/
#22
A Strategy for Dublin GAA 2011-2017

Anyone wanting a link to the Blue Wave document here it is.

http://www.stsylvesters.ie/files/the-blue-wave.pdf

Every aspirational County Board Chairmen and members should download it and examine it throughly
and then examine it again.
#23

Are we watching the death of Gaelic Football? Offtheball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSLHP23qJpI

Interesting discussion on rule changes, handpasses etc
worth watching!

bit of a reference on poorly defined tackle - the tackle how players could/would give away a free easily tackle and prefer not engage forward at approx 10 mins in.

Westbound on your suggestion, I would be interested in your opinion (re 15 men behind the ball) on why it did not happen
in the international rules 2015 game (link posted earlier), do you think because there was an Australian
Rules tackle effect in operation throughout the game?
#24
More support for the offensive mark

Comer calls for 'offensive mark'

Galway captain Damien Comer believes the introduction of an 'offensive mark' would improve Gaelic football.

His suggestion was supported by Kildare manager Cian O'Neill

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/289820

article on RTE website put up on Sunday.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0901/990947-could-gaelic-football-benefit-from-an-offensive-mark/
#25
Good points been made.

This rule would ensure that EVERY team puts 15 on their own side of the opposition 45 for opposition kick outs. So in effect, if a team were to win their own kickout they'd be faced with 15 behind the ball straight away.

Been watching the forced 45m kickout in Australia vs Ireland after it was introduced in 2015 series, trying to figure it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P-FkMx96CY

interestingly rossfan ball is throw up to 4 midfielders after goals scored.
#26
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
August 30, 2018, 12:55:26 PM
No flags? you could argue its a minority sport in Dublin

Dublin Registered Players - 39K
Cork registered players - 33K
Galway registered players- 21k

Dublin population 1.3 million
Cork population - 500k
Galway population - 260k

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120


#27
Not sure how this would go down with everyone and apologies if it was mentioned before.

If a rule was introduced that the ball had to go past the 45m line on the kickout.

As you say Trileacman "The option to go long to a competitive midfield battle is the last one that many keepers take having exhausted any safe short options." Agree with you that the keeper would take the more certain/higher percentage to kick short.

Would a competitive midfield battle be more of a spectacle to watch for audiences I am not sure.

this rule was introduced into the Int Rules in 2014.


#28
Re Colm Parkinson and the offensive mark inside the 21 yard line, he's not the only one in favour of it.


I read an interesting article on the rte website there quoting Kieran McGeeney who seems to in favour of it too.

"McGeeney would like a loosening of restrictions around the tackle and agrees with his former team-mate O'Rourke that the offensive mark inside the '45 could help bring back the beloved kickpass"

not sure about it leading too much of an advantage for the big forwards versus the Gooch/Canavan types
small forwards do operate and flourish throughout the AFL

by the way if we had two refs you could probably keep track of counted hand passes, players in halves etc if you wanted.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0823/987141-the-battle-for-the-soul-of-gaelic-football/
#29
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
August 25, 2018, 10:28:46 AM
Good news for Mayo, they can now afford a commercial manager!

25 OCTOBER 2016 - 'We can't afford a commercial manager' says Mayo GAA chairman
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/28829-we-can-t-afford-a-commercial-manager-says-mayo-gaa-chairman


August 24, 2018
Mayo to appoint Commercial Manager
- Mayo are to follow in the footsteps of many counties and appoint a full time Commercial Manager.

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/289482
#30
have to agree with Sligoman2 and Jinxy on two refs.
On the GAA hour Podcast last week Steven McDonnell agreed with Eamonn Fitzmaurice that there
should be two referees at any intercounty game.

Good to see Paul Earley sharing the same view - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtNyJ3ZAqBc

surely its worth trialing at some stage.