East wall #Irelandisfull

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Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 12:33:17 PMIt's amazing the money can be found for "refugees". Any amount of it. Besides what the hoteliers are getting, they can suddenly come up w/ the cash to buy another hotel for the town of Roscrea. Just like that! It's the same with the schools - get a few "refugees", and there's no bother getting resources.

Ah, that's the thing. Where is this Magic Money coming from? Ever think about that?

Armagh18

Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 12:33:17 PMIt's amazing the money can be found for "refugees". Any amount of it. Besides what the hoteliers are getting, they can suddenly come up w/ the cash to buy another hotel for the town of Roscrea. Just like that! It's the same with the schools - get a few "refugees", and there's no bother getting resources.
God forbid schools or hospitals were looking a few quid though!

Rossfan

Quote from: Eire90 on January 21, 2024, 08:32:17 AMhttps://www.sundayworld.com/news/breaking-news/roscrea-locals-say-far-right-not-welcome-at-protest-in-asylum-seeker-dispute/a1370379106.html

"Far right not welcome" and they with a "Ireland is full" banner🙄 which us one of the war cries of the Fascists.

The 26 Counties has the lowest density of population of any State in Western or central Europe.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Armagh18

You can think Ireland doesn't need any more refugees without being far right...

AustinPowers

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Quote from: Rossfan on January 21, 2024, 12:37:59 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on January 21, 2024, 08:32:17 AMhttps://www.sundayworld.com/news/breaking-news/roscrea-locals-say-far-right-not-welcome-at-protest-in-asylum-seeker-dispute/a1370379106.html

"Far right not welcome" and they with a "Ireland is full" banner🙄 which us one of the war cries of the Fascists.

The 26 Counties has the lowest density of population of any State in Western or central Europe.

Regardless of population density ,  there's  the  issue of  services/facilities   (hospitals, doctors, education etc) and the number that  they can  cope with.

There's millions  of acres  free in the middle of  Australia but  you wouldn't put  people there, with  no services/facilities

ThomasMullan

It's interesting that we've moved on from faux concern for the homeless (remember that?) to now not getting an appointment at the dentist (or whatever). Same shite the Brexiteers came out with as a reason for Brexit.

burdizzo

So, do you think we should take anyone and everyone? And who should pay for it?

ThomasMullan

Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMSo, do you think we should take anyone and everyone? And who should pay for it?

The Irish state will pay for it.

Can any of the anti-refugee crowd on here tell me of one single negative impact that having refugees in Ireland has had on their lives?

RedHand88

Quote from: AustinPowers on January 21, 2024, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 21, 2024, 12:37:59 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on January 21, 2024, 08:32:17 AMhttps://www.sundayworld.com/news/breaking-news/roscrea-locals-say-far-right-not-welcome-at-protest-in-asylum-seeker-dispute/a1370379106.html

"Far right not welcome" and they with a "Ireland is full" banner🙄 which us one of the war cries of the Fascists.

The 26 Counties has the lowest density of population of any State in Western or central Europe.

Regardless of population density ,  there's  the  issue of  services/facilities   (hospitals, doctors, education etc) and the number that  they can  cope with.

There's millions  of acres  free in the middle of  Australia but  you wouldn't put  people there, with  no services/facilities

We really are fine for teachers, doctors etc when you look at the stats, more than UK, France and big chunks of Europe. Its not an excuse.

burdizzo

Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 21, 2024, 01:13:24 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMSo, do you think we should take anyone and everyone? And who should pay for it?

The Irish state will pay for it.

Can any of the anti-refugee crowd on here tell me of one single negative impact that having refugees in Ireland has had on their lives?

So, for you there's no limit? And our tax money can pay for it all?

Yes - it IS harder to get a doctor's appointment, it IS harder to get a dental appointment, longer waiting times in A&E. Hotels are more expensive, schools are under pressure. These things affect me - I don't have anyone looking for a house at the moment, or student accommodation but, in time...

Besides all that, the more that come, the more and more our culture will be changed irrevocably. It has happened in other places, it will happen here, too. You may find it a wonderful thing living among strangers, but most people don't. Most people LIKE the feeling of being among people similar to them - and that includes the immigrants themselves.

whitey

Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 21, 2024, 01:13:24 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMSo, do you think we should take anyone and everyone? And who should pay for it?

The Irish state will pay for it.

Can any of the anti-refugee crowd on here tell me of one single negative impact that having refugees in Ireland has had on their lives?

Interesting question

How would you define the "anti refugee crowd"?

If someone wants immigration laws as they stand to be rigorously enforced are they "anti refugee"?

If someone thinks that applicants who have their Asylum claims denied should be deported....are they "anti refugee"?

Are you "anti refugee" if you live in a small village and hundreds of people are landed in on top of you with no consultation or additional resources ? (Keep in mind, if you had to apply for planning for a lot of these facilities, you'd be laughed out the door by the planning authorities!

JoG2

Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 02:57:13 PM
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 21, 2024, 01:13:24 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMSo, do you think we should take anyone and everyone? And who should pay for it?

The Irish state will pay for it.

Can any of the anti-refugee crowd on here tell me of one single negative impact that having refugees in Ireland has had on their lives?

So, for you there's no limit? And our tax money can pay for it all?

Yes - it IS harder to get a doctor's appointment, it IS harder to get a dental appointment, longer waiting times in A&E. Hotels are more expensive, schools are under pressure. These things affect me - I don't have anyone looking for a house at the moment, or student accommodation but, in time...

Besides all that, the more that come, the more and more our culture will be changed irrevocably. It has happened in other places, it will happen here, too. You may find it a wonderful thing living among strangers, but most people don't. Most people LIKE the feeling of being among people similar to them - and that includes the immigrants themselves.

You're absolutely delusional, you're nothing like the vast majority of folk on this island. Who would want to be a neighbour of hate filled racists? I can't think of any, well apart from people 'similar to them'.

Armagh18

Quote from: JoG2 on January 21, 2024, 03:12:06 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 02:57:13 PM
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 21, 2024, 01:13:24 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMSo, do you think we should take anyone and everyone? And who should pay for it?

The Irish state will pay for it.

Can any of the anti-refugee crowd on here tell me of one single negative impact that having refugees in Ireland has had on their lives?

So, for you there's no limit? And our tax money can pay for it all?

Yes - it IS harder to get a doctor's appointment, it IS harder to get a dental appointment, longer waiting times in A&E. Hotels are more expensive, schools are under pressure. These things affect me - I don't have anyone looking for a house at the moment, or student accommodation but, in time...

Besides all that, the more that come, the more and more our culture will be changed irrevocably. It has happened in other places, it will happen here, too. You may find it a wonderful thing living among strangers, but most people don't. Most people LIKE the feeling of being among people similar to them - and that includes the immigrants themselves.

You're absolutely delusional, you're nothing like the vast majority of folk on this island. Who would want to be a neighbour of hate filled racists? I can't think of any, well apart from people 'similar to them'. 
Is the bolded really that outrageous a statement

burdizzo

Quote from: JoG2 on January 21, 2024, 03:12:06 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 02:57:13 PM
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 21, 2024, 01:13:24 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMSo, do you think we should take anyone and everyone? And who should pay for it?

The Irish state will pay for it.

Can any of the anti-refugee crowd on here tell me of one single negative impact that having refugees in Ireland has had on their lives?

So, for you there's no limit? And our tax money can pay for it all?

Yes - it IS harder to get a doctor's appointment, it IS harder to get a dental appointment, longer waiting times in A&E. Hotels are more expensive, schools are under pressure. These things affect me - I don't have anyone looking for a house at the moment, or student accommodation but, in time...

Besides all that, the more that come, the more and more our culture will be changed irrevocably. It has happened in other places, it will happen here, too. You may find it a wonderful thing living among strangers, but most people don't. Most people LIKE the feeling of being among people similar to them - and that includes the immigrants themselves.

You're absolutely delusional, you're nothing like the vast majority of folk on this island. Who would want to be a neighbour of hate filled racists? I can't think of any, well apart from people 'similar to them'.

Ha ha! Your child-like naivety is really sweet. Remember, pal, that the vast majority of people think we've taken is too many refugees already. You're the one who is deluded and, I'm afraid, bleating "racist, racist" to impress your far-left friends won't change that reality.

RedHand88

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Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 02:57:13 PM
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 21, 2024, 01:13:24 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMSo, do you think we should take anyone and everyone? And who should pay for it?

The Irish state will pay for it.

Can any of the anti-refugee crowd on here tell me of one single negative impact that having refugees in Ireland has had on their lives?

So, for you there's no limit? And our tax money can pay for it all?

Yes - it IS harder to get a doctor's appointment, it IS harder to get a dental appointment, longer waiting times in A&E. Hotels are more expensive, schools are under pressure. These things affect me - I don't have anyone looking for a house at the moment, or student accommodation but, in time...

Besides all that, the more that come, the more and more our culture will be changed irrevocably. It has happened in other places, it will happen here, too. You may find it a wonderful thing living among strangers, but most people don't. Most people LIKE the feeling of being among people similar to them - and that includes the immigrants themselves.

Doctors appointments and A&E waiting times have nothing to do with immigrants. The population is older, sicker and riddled with morbidities compared to 20 years ago. Have a look at the T2DM, COPD etc rates of now v 2004. Hint: you can't blame the immigrants on this one.