East wall #Irelandisfull

Started by Truth hurts, January 04, 2023, 11:06:41 AM

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burdizzo

Do you really think that if we keep letting in endless illegal immigrants that all our ways of life won't change?

PadraicHenryPearse

Roscrea has a population of 5,500. the hotel is accommodation for 160.

Eire90

This could all spiral out of  control you could see something terrible happening to a poltician then the politicians freak out by calling the army and armed garda on to the streets but half of them refuse orders resulting in civil meltdown then the various factions and drug gangs declare war on each other with the chaos spreading north.

ThomasMullan

Quote from: burdizzo on January 15, 2024, 10:00:07 PMDo you really think that if we keep letting in endless illegal immigrants that all our ways of life won't change?

If you genuinely think that, can you say in what way your way of life will change?

Eire90

are hotel owners not passionate about doing hotel things anymore or are they only interested in the bucks

Armagh18

Quote from: Eire90 on January 15, 2024, 10:03:56 PMThis could all spiral out of  control you could see something terrible happening to a poltician then the politicians freak out by calling the army and armed garda on to the streets but half of them refuse orders resulting in civil meltdown then the various factions and drug gangs declare war on each other with the chaos spreading north.
Would you have Cillian Murphy or Barry Keoghan play the lead in your film?

burdizzo

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on January 15, 2024, 10:02:52 PMRoscrea has a population of 5,500. the hotel is accommodation for 160.

The whole point is that the town has already taken its share of 'asylum seekers'.

burdizzo

Quote from: Eire90 on January 15, 2024, 10:05:28 PMare hotel owners not passionate about doing hotel things anymore or are they only interested in the bucks

The bucks are very big!

From the Bunker

Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 15, 2024, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 15, 2024, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2024, 08:53:45 PMNobody is behind it. Not in an organised way.

Rural townsfolk aren't used to strangers. They just aren't. This is often and lazily portrayed as owing to the people being inbred Neanderthals.

But that's not it. Most small inland towns in Ireland would have one small hotel, if that. They don't have tourists. They don't host conferences, or big social events, and the only people who go to their small festivals are from the hinterland. The local businesses are there to provide services for local people. The motorway network has removed most of the passers by.

Unless they happen to work outside their own town, they won't encounter a stranger from one month to the next apart from in a sporting context, if that way involved, and then only fleetingly.

And that's their way of life. It's not a way of living  thats unfriendly to outsiders, not even wary. Just completely unaccustomed.

But 10% of their population is soon to be made up of people from a completely different culture, means, and way of life.

Thats scary.

So when the likes of you describe them as racist, hate-filled bigots. Just do yourself a favour. Show a bit of empathy for the locals.

This is not a black and white situation.

Great post. There is a huge level of the unknown. You can't be expecting people to sit on their hands and watch their community drastically change in way that no one can predict.

Yes it's terrible, townsfolk will have to now walk around Roscrea and look at some people from another country where they don't have white skin. I can't imagine how they will cope when they've never had to do that before.

Can you explain to me how their 'way of life' is threatened exactly?

Can you explain where all the money is coming from to finance this?
Can you explain why we are almost turning a blind eye to this problem?
Can you explain why local, national and international media don't cover our ''Problem'' in any critical way?
Can you explain all the local investors who are sprouting up to provide accommodation (and making lots of money)?
Can you explain the conflicts that are currently happening in Algeria, Albania, Nigeria, etc that are making these Refugees come here?
Can you explain how 70% of these refugees/immigrants get on a plane with papers and get off one without?
Can you explain why 70% of these refugees/immigrants get on a plane with papers and get off one without?
Can you give me a figure of what is the appropriate ceiling of people to allow into the country? Half a Million? A Million?
Do you think that this massive influx will have an influence on our already stretched Health, Education, Travel, Judicial, Cultural systems?



Milltown Row2

God love them farmers.. hopefully the locals keep to themselves and leave the guys alone

Would it be ok for some Palestinian refugees come and stay or would they meet the same treatment that they are getting in Gaza?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

ThomasMullan

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 15, 2024, 10:14:36 PM
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 15, 2024, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 15, 2024, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2024, 08:53:45 PMNobody is behind it. Not in an organised way.

Rural townsfolk aren't used to strangers. They just aren't. This is often and lazily portrayed as owing to the people being inbred Neanderthals.

But that's not it. Most small inland towns in Ireland would have one small hotel, if that. They don't have tourists. They don't host conferences, or big social events, and the only people who go to their small festivals are from the hinterland. The local businesses are there to provide services for local people. The motorway network has removed most of the passers by.

Unless they happen to work outside their own town, they won't encounter a stranger from one month to the next apart from in a sporting context, if that way involved, and then only fleetingly.

And that's their way of life. It's not a way of living  thats unfriendly to outsiders, not even wary. Just completely unaccustomed.

But 10% of their population is soon to be made up of people from a completely different culture, means, and way of life.

Thats scary.

So when the likes of you describe them as racist, hate-filled bigots. Just do yourself a favour. Show a bit of empathy for the locals.

This is not a black and white situation.

Great post. There is a huge level of the unknown. You can't be expecting people to sit on their hands and watch their community drastically change in way that no one can predict.

Yes it's terrible, townsfolk will have to now walk around Roscrea and look at some people from another country where they don't have white skin. I can't imagine how they will cope when they've never had to do that before.

Can you explain to me how their 'way of life' is threatened exactly?

Can you explain where all the money is coming from to finance this?
Can you explain why we are almost turning a blind eye to this problem?
Can you explain why local, national and international media don't cover our ''Problem'' in any critical way?
Can you explain all the local investors who are sprouting up to provide accommodation (and making lots of money)?
Can you explain the conflicts that are currently happening in Algeria, Albania, Nigeria, etc that are making these Refugees come here?
Can you explain how 70% of these refugees/immigrants get on a plane with papers and get off one without?
Can you explain why 70% of these refugees/immigrants get on a plane with papers and get off one without?
Can you give me a figure of what is the appropriate ceiling of people to allow into the country? Half a Million? A Million?
Do you think that this massive influx will have an influence on our already stretched Health, Education, Travel, Judicial, Cultural systems?




The Irish state will pay for it. The pocket money given to the asylum seekers will go straight into the local economy. A bit like the dole - none of it is being squirrelled away in an off shore tax haven.

The 'problem' as you call it exists in the heads of these people, whipped up by racist scum bags on Xitter and hundreds of bot accounts (that's well organised by someone).

Has your 'way of life' been affected thus far?


whitey


while the govt say there's no money to fund basic services such as healthcare and education for Irish people (taxpayers), all of a sudden they find Billions of Euro to house and feed tens of thousands of "refugees" many of whom are simply economic migrants

An this is all footed by the taxpayer-madness!

If an election was held tomorrow, anti immigration candidates would win dozens of seats

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on January 15, 2024, 10:36:26 PMwhile the govt say there's no money to fund basic services such as healthcare and education for Irish people (taxpayers), all of a sudden they find Billions of Euro to house and feed tens of thousands of "refugees" many of whom are simply economic migrants

An this is all footed by the taxpayer-madness!

If an election was held tomorrow, anti immigration candidates would win dozens of seats

Can you come back and join one of these parties? Ireland needs you
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

burdizzo

Unbelievable the resources being thrown at this by the government. If you're looking for extra resource hours for Irish children in a school - "Oooh, I don't think we could manage that". But for Ukrainians, you'll have 'em in jig time.

thewobbler

Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 15, 2024, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 15, 2024, 10:14:36 PM
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 15, 2024, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 15, 2024, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2024, 08:53:45 PMNobody is behind it. Not in an organised way.

Rural townsfolk aren't used to strangers. They just aren't. This is often and lazily portrayed as owing to the people being inbred Neanderthals.

But that's not it. Most small inland towns in Ireland would have one small hotel, if that. They don't have tourists. They don't host conferences, or big social events, and the only people who go to their small festivals are from the hinterland. The local businesses are there to provide services for local people. The motorway network has removed most of the passers by.

Unless they happen to work outside their own town, they won't encounter a stranger from one month to the next apart from in a sporting context, if that way involved, and then only fleetingly.

And that's their way of life. It's not a way of living  thats unfriendly to outsiders, not even wary. Just completely unaccustomed.

But 10% of their population is soon to be made up of people from a completely different culture, means, and way of life.

Thats scary.

So when the likes of you describe them as racist, hate-filled bigots. Just do yourself a favour. Show a bit of empathy for the locals.

This is not a black and white situation.

Great post. There is a huge level of the unknown. You can't be expecting people to sit on their hands and watch their community drastically change in way that no one can predict.

Yes it's terrible, townsfolk will have to now walk around Roscrea and look at some people from another country where they don't have white skin. I can't imagine how they will cope when they've never had to do that before.

Can you explain to me how their 'way of life' is threatened exactly?

Can you explain where all the money is coming from to finance this?
Can you explain why we are almost turning a blind eye to this problem?
Can you explain why local, national and international media don't cover our ''Problem'' in any critical way?
Can you explain all the local investors who are sprouting up to provide accommodation (and making lots of money)?
Can you explain the conflicts that are currently happening in Algeria, Albania, Nigeria, etc that are making these Refugees come here?
Can you explain how 70% of these refugees/immigrants get on a plane with papers and get off one without?
Can you explain why 70% of these refugees/immigrants get on a plane with papers and get off one without?
Can you give me a figure of what is the appropriate ceiling of people to allow into the country? Half a Million? A Million?
Do you think that this massive influx will have an influence on our already stretched Health, Education, Travel, Judicial, Cultural systems?




The Irish state will pay for it. The pocket money given to the asylum seekers will go straight into the local economy. A bit like the dole - none of it is being squirrelled away in an off shore tax haven.

The 'problem' as you call it exists in the heads of these people, whipped up by racist scum bags on Xitter and hundreds of bot accounts (that's well organised by someone).

Has your 'way of life' been affected thus far?



You are utterly obsessed with racism.

People like you are the reason the Catholic Church could house paedophile rings for decades. You have no interest in understanding what's going on. No interest in listening. All you want to do is bang a drum.