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[Hard to plan for every single player to get a black card, of all the ones to get one Hampsey probably be the most damaging (Mattie too).]

#91

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and...

Last post by Truthsayer - April 22, 2024, 03:21:20 PM

No issue with players being blooded, transition years, need to gain experience...all that stuff....fine...

But surely you should be able to see a plan, a system, some kind of tactics beyond the basic, something to give these players a structure to develop in ...

What does that even mean? Lost their way when Hampsey went off on the black card... need to look at that. They were the much better side.

What that means is exactly what it says. It's great to see new players get brought in and given a meaningful taste of league and championship.

There is also a lot of talent there, which means we can go on scoring sprees and look fantastic for periods. All good. So the raw ingredients are there.

What is not evident is a system or structured gameplay to compete with Dublin/Kerry/Derry (and McGuiness back means Donegal are also a much diffeent prospect).

There is zero consistency in the team, from quarter to quarter, never mind game to game.

Maybe I just dont see/understand the current tactics as well as others and I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

Nah you've still lost me. Maybe I'm not up to speed with gameplans. You mention Derry, they were a shambles at the weekend. Kerry scraped past Cork. I've must have a simpler outlook. Tyrone went away from home and beat a side just beat Monaghan. Things went badly awry on the black card and need to look at why. Sitting in Breffini Park yesterday wat I saw was Tyrone were the much better team and when it was 15 v 15 Cavan wouldn't have won if we were there to next Tuesday. Next up... Donegal.

You don't think going a man down and how to cope with it is an element that the management should have dealt with in training? I would be asking serious questions about why we opened up so quickly during those 10 mins. That re-organisation lies with management imo.

Def needs reviewed: they know that. Hard to plan for every single player to get a black card, of all the ones to get one Hampsey probably be the most damaging (Mattie too). I see the glass half full not half empty: 9 players made championship debut. When it went back to 15 v 15 was never in doubt. To go to Cavan and be hauled back like that and win showed great character.
Maybe I don't have your expectations of a team in transition. Reality check: They won't be beating Kerry or Dublin no more than Derry or Donegal will...
 

a club team management would have that angle covered. A black card happens regular in games so it needs to be handled irrespective of who the player carded is.....basic stuff for all teams. Delegation, planning and proper instruction sorts that out easily

I am like yourself and try to take the positives from it (9 debutants, great first 30 minutes) but how can we let a black card derail us is concerning. The real positive was that most of them debutants were on the pitch in the crucial closing stages of ET when the game was in the melting pot.

Hard to know what to expect next week....if we deliver then we could win but it is the total inconsistency that is our problem - we don't know what is happening from one half to the next never mind one game to the next.

I think your over-cooking what managers can do. The problem wasn't so much the blackcard was that the player who got it had such a huge influence on the game up to then.
Derry on Saturday was a complete mess, a few weeks ago Harte being hailed as a genius.
We'll see what happens...I've more faith in the management than you obviously..
 

There is a limit to what management can do without doubt but setting up a team in a coherent fashion with a clear plan isn't too much to expect. We haven't had that the last two years, the team has been a disjointed mess. The management team basically got a free pass for that because of 2021 and that was fair enough. Once they decided to put themselves forward for another term the free pass expired for me and they don't get off with this team in transition line either. Yes there are lots of young players but they are very good young players with a very good experienced core already there. It shouldn't be asking too much after McKenna Cup and seven league games for something like a well tuned team to be emerging. Instead they went off the boil massively in the second-half with the total collapse after the (questionable) Hampsey black card very concerning. It was pretty obvious that Mattie (who was class) wasn't happy at all afterwards. I'm not expecting any titles this summer but we need to see some real evidence this management team are bringing a competitive new team together and building towards something much better than the shambles of the past two summers. Big few weeks ahead of them.

You're a hard taskmaster! 9 players played in their first county championship : ) That wouldn't beat Donegal but it didnt have to... they won. I wouldn't be inclined to hammer them... see how Sunday goes.

#92

General discussion / Re: Things that make you go Wh...

Last post by Tones - April 22, 2024, 03:18:45 PM

Hope it's not  these charms for someone with diabetes.

#93

Hurling Discussion / Re: AI Hurling Championship 20...

Last post by NAG1 - April 22, 2024, 03:13:22 PM

Clare's level dropped slightly but not by much and Limerick powered through that quarter. Clare did have a couple of bad wides in this period which might just have kept them in the game.

Keeper has been an issue for them for a few years now, but he is obviously the best they have. Great game and the only major problem for those outside of Limerick is that this will bring them on again. Ominous for the others.

#94

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurl...

Last post by Rawhide - April 22, 2024, 03:13:18 PM

Its a strange one, the guy in his 13 yr senior career has never lifted his hand to hit a player. He is physical in the tackle etc, but its a hard one to figure. No history until now.

#95

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread

Last post by Saffsof82 - April 22, 2024, 02:58:43 PM

Joe C has left Creggan,played 4 games, won 3 lost 1, whats the story there?

[Hard to plan for every single player to get a black card, of all the ones to get one Hampsey probably be the most damaging (Mattie too).]

#96

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and...

Last post by Lamh Dhearg Alba - April 22, 2024, 02:37:54 PM

No issue with players being blooded, transition years, need to gain experience...all that stuff....fine...

But surely you should be able to see a plan, a system, some kind of tactics beyond the basic, something to give these players a structure to develop in ...

What does that even mean? Lost their way when Hampsey went off on the black card... need to look at that. They were the much better side.

What that means is exactly what it says. It's great to see new players get brought in and given a meaningful taste of league and championship.

There is also a lot of talent there, which means we can go on scoring sprees and look fantastic for periods. All good. So the raw ingredients are there.

What is not evident is a system or structured gameplay to compete with Dublin/Kerry/Derry (and McGuiness back means Donegal are also a much diffeent prospect).

There is zero consistency in the team, from quarter to quarter, never mind game to game.

Maybe I just dont see/understand the current tactics as well as others and I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

Nah you've still lost me. Maybe I'm not up to speed with gameplans. You mention Derry, they were a shambles at the weekend. Kerry scraped past Cork. I've must have a simpler outlook. Tyrone went away from home and beat a side just beat Monaghan. Things went badly awry on the black card and need to look at why. Sitting in Breffini Park yesterday wat I saw was Tyrone were the much better team and when it was 15 v 15 Cavan wouldn't have won if we were there to next Tuesday. Next up... Donegal.

You don't think going a man down and how to cope with it is an element that the management should have dealt with in training? I would be asking serious questions about why we opened up so quickly during those 10 mins. That re-organisation lies with management imo.

Def needs reviewed: they know that. Hard to plan for every single player to get a black card, of all the ones to get one Hampsey probably be the most damaging (Mattie too). I see the glass half full not half empty: 9 players made championship debut. When it went back to 15 v 15 was never in doubt. To go to Cavan and be hauled back like that and win showed great character.
Maybe I don't have your expectations of a team in transition. Reality check: They won't be beating Kerry or Dublin no more than Derry or Donegal will...
 

a club team management would have that angle covered. A black card happens regular in games so it needs to be handled irrespective of who the player carded is.....basic stuff for all teams. Delegation, planning and proper instruction sorts that out easily

I am like yourself and try to take the positives from it (9 debutants, great first 30 minutes) but how can we let a black card derail us is concerning. The real positive was that most of them debutants were on the pitch in the crucial closing stages of ET when the game was in the melting pot.

Hard to know what to expect next week....if we deliver then we could win but it is the total inconsistency that is our problem - we don't know what is happening from one half to the next never mind one game to the next.

I think your over-cooking what managers can do. The problem wasn't so much the blackcard was that the player who got it had such a huge influence on the game up to then.
Derry on Saturday was a complete mess, a few weeks ago Harte being hailed as a genius.
We'll see what happens...I've more faith in the management than you obviously..
 

There is a limit to what management can do without doubt but setting up a team in a coherent fashion with a clear plan isn't too much to expect. We haven't had that the last two years, the team has been a disjointed mess. The management team basically got a free pass for that because of 2021 and that was fair enough. Once they decided to put themselves forward for another term the free pass expired for me and they don't get off with this team in transition line either. Yes there are lots of young players but they are very good young players with a very good experienced core already there. It shouldn't be asking too much after McKenna Cup and seven league games for something like a well tuned team to be emerging. Instead they went off the boil massively in the second-half with the total collapse after the (questionable) Hampsey black card very concerning. It was pretty obvious that Mattie (who was class) wasn't happy at all afterwards. I'm not expecting any titles this summer but we need to see some real evidence this management team are bringing a competitive new team together and building towards something much better than the shambles of the past two summers. Big few weeks ahead of them.

#97

Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling

Last post by NorthAntrim - April 22, 2024, 02:35:42 PM

Championship starts this weekend. Corrigan a leveller against a lower tier side. We'll be judged on Wexford, Dublin and Carlow not KK and Galway

[Won't listen to a word I say regardless of me showing him evidence of 100s of people just like him resolving their symptoms by drastically reducing the carbs in their diet.]

#98

General discussion / Re: Things that make you go Wh...

Last post by thebigfella - April 22, 2024, 02:30:06 PM

Like this is funny??
Let's go with this one. A mate just turned 60, T2D for 10 years treated with all the standard drug protocols. Carrying too much weight,has nasty foot ulcer for over 12 months, diabetic retinopathy requiring injections into his eyeballs, regularly shits himself and now on insulin like a T1.
He hangs on every word of his dietitian with the healthy whole grains and low saturated fat, 5 a day, healthy cooking oils crap. All the while steadily declining.
Someone who is severely insulin resistant(carbohydrate intolerant) eating loads of carbs. In what universe does that make sense.
Won't listen to a word I say regardless of me showing him evidence of 100s of people just like him resolving their symptoms by drastically reducing the carbs in their diet.
Adamant he's going to listen to the doctors and nurses, they know best after all. And he's married to a nurse!
Sorry couldn't find any humour in this sad tale.

Why should he listen to you?

I assuming your advice is based upon "your published" scientific research. The research has been conducted to relevant standards and peer reviewed to the highest degree? Or is this just 100s of anecdotal claims that is used to back up your views and no serious scientific basis behind it? If the answer is as I suspect, then he's absolutely right not to listen to you.

I've no doubt diet and healthier lifestyles can help "reduce" symptoms for certain conditions, even if it's just for mental health or a placebo effect. Lots of the stuff I read is pure pseudoscience and backed up by no real scientific research or clinical trials, which is morally wrong and downright dangerous.

Ah the perfect man big Pharma loves. No doubt you took the 'vaccine' not a question asked?

WTF has the covid vaccine got to do with it. Yes I did take the vaccine and what questions am I suppose to have asked. Is it the same questions I ask when I take any medicine for the first time or is it tinfoil hat questions?

Unless there is "proper science" behind advice, then you might as well be getting a charm from some lad down the pub who claims he has it for diabetes.

#99

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurl...

Last post by God14 - April 22, 2024, 02:28:34 PM

Just got the whatsapp of the incident in the swatragh kilrea game. Sickening.
Absolutely no place in our games for a head butt like that. Trampish thuggish behaviour.
I see no reason why the perpetrator should not be taken to court. He should also be given a lengthy ban by the GAA. There can be no justification for dropping your head into another mans head with that amount of force.

#100

GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht senior football c...

Last post by Armagh18 - April 22, 2024, 02:27:26 PM

Outside of occasionally Armagh and Dublin, no football teams fans can really hold a candle to Munster hurling teams at the moment

Not really fair comparing with the completely different setup in hurling.

The football provincials are not much more than a warm-up before the serious business starts with the group stages.

The Munster hurling round-robin has real jeopardy with every single game being critical given 40% of the teams taking part will be finished for the summer in a few weeks (and possibly even sooner depending on how results go).

But football fans aren't going to any games in those numbers is the point. If you took Armagh fan out of the All Ireland quarter final double header on the Saturday last year there'd have been less than 15k there. Similar for the Sunday double header if you took Dublin fans out. Those are exceptionally big games and nobody outside of an Armagh bandwagon will travel for them anymore

Hurling fans, especially in Munster, will travel for games currently tbf. Clare who are a small county have brought 35k+ to their last two semis. Limerick and Cork (hurling only) have huge support constantly

Cost/amount of games have to be putting people off. The 2 Ulster games and the Limerick/Clare hurling match were all brilliant watches at the weekend, but theres a semi final and final for Tyrone/Donegal coming soon, plus 3 group games to come. The product is great but isn't helped by wankers running it down in the media and by the price of tickets.