Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Lucifer]

Slapping a player is always a foul

Yes, indeed... However, multiple players slapping at a man isn't (contrary to what it states in the rulebook)

Slapping at a man or slapping at the ball?  Are they different?  Incidental contact whilst attempting to play the ball is allowed, so I would suggest that if the slap is either near the ball or not forceful, then why would it be a free?  How else do you attempt to play the ball in such a scenario other than to "slap?"  Are we suggesting that the only opportunity to tackle is when the player is playing the ball?  It might make it an easier game to referee, but that dilution of physicality is surely not something most want to see (and the increase in frees.)  The side to side shoulder is obviously a legitimate tackle also, but an increasingly difficult one to perform so quite rare nowadays.

I do agree with the 1 man tackling v 3/4 men tackling connundrum you refer too.  However I believe the issue isn't that a free is awarded to the defending team for overcarrying regularly in the group scenario, it is that the same overcarrying is often not applied in the 1 v 1 scenario. Thus the slapping/tackle generally becomes more desperate and leads to the foul (ball carrier usually given the advantage of steps leading into tackle and away from tackle a major contributor to this.)  This foul is generally not created in the group scenario because the ball carrier doesn't manage to evade or get away from the group tackle and thus the subsequent desperate tackle does not occur.  They are simply bottled up with nowhere to go.

[Milltown Row2]

There is only one physical tackle allowed in football, its been that way for ever. The shoulder on shoulder tackle. That's it. No other physical tackle on the player is permitted

[Armagh18]

Allow more physical contact. Should be allowed to hit a man with your chest when he's in possession to slow him up.

[Lucifer]

There is only one physical tackle allowed in football, its been that way for ever. The shoulder on shoulder tackle. That's it. No other physical tackle on the player is permitted

Yes, but that doesn't mean all other physical contact is outlawed or a foul. "Incidental contact" is the caveat to cater for that and whilst it is subjective, it is necessary so that we don't dilute the game to non contact.

[BigGreenField]

There is only one physical tackle allowed in football, its been that way for ever. The shoulder on shoulder tackle. That's it. No other physical tackle on the player is permitted

Yes, but that doesn't mean all other physical contact is outlawed or a foul. "Incidental contact" is the caveat to cater for that and whilst it is subjective, it is necessary so that we don't dilute the game to non contact.

And yet club games galore see's either open or close handed strikes at the body - usually from behind, under the guise of a tackle and ref's permitting it.

[Milltown Row2]

There is only one physical tackle allowed in football, its been that way for ever. The shoulder on shoulder tackle. That's it. No other physical tackle on the player is permitted

Yes, but that doesn't mean all other physical contact is outlawed or a foul. "Incidental contact" is the caveat to cater for that and whilst it is subjective, it is necessary so that we don't dilute the game to non contact.

And yet club games galore see's either open or close handed strikes at the body - usually from behind, under the guise of a tackle and ref's permitting it.

It's always the ref's view interpretation and application, only one whistle once chance one view.

Ref can only calls what he sees.

I watched plenty games this year at club, the amount of calls by clubmen managers and supporters for frees which weren't frees was alarming

[BigGreenField]

There is only one physical tackle allowed in football, its been that way for ever. The shoulder on shoulder tackle. That's it. No other physical tackle on the player is permitted

Yes, but that doesn't mean all other physical contact is outlawed or a foul. "Incidental contact" is the caveat to cater for that and whilst it is subjective, it is necessary so that we don't dilute the game to non contact.

And yet club games galore see's either open or close handed strikes at the body - usually from behind, under the guise of a tackle and ref's permitting it.

It's always the ref's view interpretation and application, only one whistle once chance one view.

Ref can only calls what he sees.

I watched plenty games this year at club, the amount of calls by clubmen managers and supporters for frees which weren't frees was alarming

Nowt worse than gonches trying to backseat ref a game from the sideline (or stands or even players on the pitch) most often when their own team has made a mistake and they are looking bailed out.

the clanging cymbals/beat the drum style of tackle from behind which mostly targets the ball carriers kidneys is rife though and zero skill involved.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/12/10/sean-moran-revenues-laissez-faire-attitude-to-county-finances-appears-to-be-over/
The precipitous drop in attendances, primarily but not exclusively in Leinster, and the difficulty even All-Ireland semi-finals now have in filling Croke Park illustrates one of the feedback points gathered by the Football Review Committee: non-partisan interest in most of the football championship is vanishing

[Blowitupref]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/12/10/sean-moran-revenues-laissez-faire-attitude-to-county-finances-appears-to-be-over/
The precipitous drop in attendances, primarily but not exclusively in Leinster, and the difficulty even All-Ireland semi-finals now have in filling Croke Park illustrates one of the feedback points gathered by the Football Review Committee: non-partisan interest in most of the football championship is vanishing

On the topic of attendances Jim Gavin is a bit optimistic on the attraction of his new rules if thinks 26k plus will be at that match on the end of January

"I mean there's going to be great excitement. I can only imagine the atmosphere in Pearse Park and Salthill on the 25th of January when Galway take on Armagh. That's going to be a cracking game, a full house. Two All-Ireland finalists."

[Armagh18]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/12/10/sean-moran-revenues-laissez-faire-attitude-to-county-finances-appears-to-be-over/
The precipitous drop in attendances, primarily but not exclusively in Leinster, and the difficulty even All-Ireland semi-finals now have in filling Croke Park illustrates one of the feedback points gathered by the Football Review Committee: non-partisan interest in most of the football championship is vanishing

On the topic of attendances Jim Gavin is a bit optimistic on the attraction of his new rules if thinks 26k plus will be at that match on the end of January

"I mean there's going to be great excitement. I can only imagine the atmosphere in Pearse Park and Salthill on the 25th of January when Galway take on Armagh. That's going to be a cracking game, a full house. Two All-Ireland finalists."

I'd say it will be close to it tbh, are hotels hard to get in Galway? Would be a great weekends craic.

[Milltown Row2]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/12/10/sean-moran-revenues-laissez-faire-attitude-to-county-finances-appears-to-be-over/
The precipitous drop in attendances, primarily but not exclusively in Leinster, and the difficulty even All-Ireland semi-finals now have in filling Croke Park illustrates one of the feedback points gathered by the Football Review Committee: non-partisan interest in most of the football championship is vanishing

On the topic of attendances Jim Gavin is a bit optimistic on the attraction of his new rules if thinks 26k plus will be at that match on the end of January

"I mean there's going to be great excitement. I can only imagine the atmosphere in Pearse Park and Salthill on the 25th of January when Galway take on Armagh. That's going to be a cracking game, a full house. Two All-Ireland finalists."

We'd that at Casement one winter with Tyrone and Armagh playing in McKenna cup with well over 20k, it does happen, sometimes

[Blowitupref]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/12/10/sean-moran-revenues-laissez-faire-attitude-to-county-finances-appears-to-be-over/
The precipitous drop in attendances, primarily but not exclusively in Leinster, and the difficulty even All-Ireland semi-finals now have in filling Croke Park illustrates one of the feedback points gathered by the Football Review Committee: non-partisan interest in most of the football championship is vanishing

On the topic of attendances Jim Gavin is a bit optimistic on the attraction of his new rules if thinks 26k plus will be at that match on the end of January

"I mean there's going to be great excitement. I can only imagine the atmosphere in Pearse Park and Salthill on the 25th of January when Galway take on Armagh. That's going to be a cracking game, a full house. Two All-Ireland finalists."

I'd say it will be close to it tbh, are hotels hard to get in Galway? Would be a great weekends craic.

Always hard to get in Galway city on Saturday night especially a reasonably priced one.

[galwayman]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/12/10/sean-moran-revenues-laissez-faire-attitude-to-county-finances-appears-to-be-over/
The precipitous drop in attendances, primarily but not exclusively in Leinster, and the difficulty even All-Ireland semi-finals now have in filling Croke Park illustrates one of the feedback points gathered by the Football Review Committee: non-partisan interest in most of the football championship is vanishing

On the topic of attendances Jim Gavin is a bit optimistic on the attraction of his new rules if thinks 26k plus will be at that match on the end of January

"I mean there's going to be great excitement. I can only imagine the atmosphere in Pearse Park and Salthill on the 25th of January when Galway take on Armagh. That's going to be a cracking game, a full house. Two All-Ireland finalists."

I'd say it will be close to it tbh, are hotels hard to get in Galway? Would be a great weekends craic.

Always hard to get in Galway city on Saturday night especially a reasonably priced one.

You'll get one alright but won't be cheap I'd say. Looking forward to finally having a home game under lights after all these years.

[ONeill]

Is there a different pricing model that can be looked at?
One that results in cutting even instead of having to make a profit?
It's just too dear now. I see they're charging U16s now under the guise of H&S.

[Milltown Row2]

Is there a different pricing model that can be looked at?
One that results in cutting even instead of having to make a profit?
It's just too dear now. I see they're charging U16s now under the guise of H&S.

Profit? You know no one makes money? All the money goes back into the system to pay for things.

But yeah under 16's should be getting in free