Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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square_ball

The GAA bashers are out in force anyway and its all their fault.

NAG1

The price is the price, if Eddie Hearn doesn't like it then the GAA are probably doing something right.

Armagh18

Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2023, 11:42:12 AM
The price is the price, if Eddie Hearn doesn't like it then the GAA are probably doing something right.
Yeah exactly. How many tickets wouldnit even sell I wonder. Would need Conlan and Taylor both fighting to get enough interest here you would think

square_ball

No chance of Conlon fighting due to his promotional links or indeed anyone who was in anyway linked to MTK. Hearn has a fairly small stable of Irish boxers and none that will put a huge amount of bums on seats. Undercards tend to be for the boxing purists anyway rather than the bandwagon jumpers.

It probably could be close to a sell out due to people wanting to attend the event rather than the actual fight. To be honest the thought of shelling out €80 for a ticket and watching from up in the clouds in the Upper Cusack wouldn't be all that appealing.

seafoid

They obviously couldn't sell enough tickets.
Wembley is cheaper because the population is bigger and can support more fights.
Maybe Parnell Park would work.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2023, 11:42:12 AM
The price is the price, if Eddie Hearn doesn't like it then the GAA are probably doing something right.

But it's wbat the price is that is the issue. It's not like for like as Wembley is in a city with 5 other 50,000 plus venues wheras Dublin has 1, but it doesn't explain why the GAA want 1.2m a day.

Eire90

ohhh the 3arena i thought it meant the aviva when i first seen it 3arena a big step down in  terms of attendance you think they would try for the aviva if croke park not available.

Milltown Row2

Sure she's Irelands greatest sports person, surprised that they are struggling to fill Croke Park... Well based on a few looneys here she is!






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JimStynes

Casement Park! Only venue for it!

tonto1888

Quote from: Eire90 on February 02, 2023, 01:14:50 PM
ohhh the 3arena i thought it meant the aviva when i first seen it 3arena a big step down in  terms of attendance you think they would try for the aviva if croke park not available.

The aviva isnt available either

clonadmad

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 02, 2023, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2023, 11:42:12 AM
The price is the price, if Eddie Hearn doesn't like it then the GAA are probably doing something right.

But it's wbat the price is that is the issue. It's not like for like as Wembley is in a city with 5 other 50,000 plus venues wheras Dublin has 1, but it doesn't explain why the GAA want 1.2m a day.

they dont

€400k is the price for renting Croke Park

which is less than 10% of the total expected take

Hearn doesnt want to pay for security/policing costs

he wants the GAA or the taxpayer to pay for it

Also Why is this boxing match even being entertained in Croke Park in the middle of the Championship when it could be accommodated in August September

and they also want it on the same weekend as 2 rugby european finals are on in Dublin

cue whinging then about beds pricing and availibilty

gallsman

Quote from: nrico2006 on February 02, 2023, 11:04:07 AM
How big would the demand be to watch Taylor fight?

Seems to make strange moves, been big fights out there fir her that she could have targeted over the past year or two for her legacy. She could have went after McCaskill again and had a chance to be undisputed at two weights simultaneously. Or why not go after Jonas' titles or even fight Shields.

Has schooled Jonas umpteen times. Nobody has any interest in that fight, never mind it being three weight classes above her.

Shields is similarly absolutely huge in comparison. Shields has been as high as Super Middle.


seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/boxing/2023/02/02/taylor-v-serrano-croke-park-dispute-eddie-hearns-claims-that-cost-behind-potential-3arena-move/Speaking at the announcement that the GAA returned a consolidated surplus of €6.7 million for 2022, McKenna outlined his dealings with Hearn about the hiring of Croke Park, stating that issues surrounding who would foot the security bill were the real issue.

"So they have been in conversation with us for some time. The last time we talked to them properly was before Christmas. We would love to have the fight here. We set our stall out on that basis.

"So our rent was coming in around €400,000. I think the rent for Wembley is about Stg£250,000-£300,000 (€281,000-€337,000). The real issue here is about security costs that which we felt the promoter should carry.

"And having gone through this with statutory services and our own team, we looked at the risk analysis on the event and we felt that the amount of security that you'd need would be at the top level."

The Aviva Stadium is set to host both the Challenge Cup and Champions Cup rugby finals on the same weekend as the proposed bout between Taylor and Serrano, something McKenna pointed out in his comments.

"It's going to go to the 3Arena and I think that's a far smaller, they've got 9,000. They've done some really, really good boxing events in the past so it will suit it very well. There are going to be challenges that weekend, no doubt, in the city because the Heineken Cup final is on so you will be stretching the gardaí across a whole series of events. They are very, very good at what they do, genuinely very, very good at what they do but I mean that's something that needs to be thought about as well."

McKenna insisted that Croke Park were keen to host the Olympic gold medal winner, even reducing their costs for the event.

"The costs quoted are far less than we'd normally charge because we would have loved to have had Katie Taylor. The eyes of the world would be on us. We're never shy in bringing world class events like the Special Olympics here."

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/boxing/2023/02/02/taylor-v-serrano-croke-park-dispute-eddie-hearns-claims-that-cost-behind-potential-3arena-move/Serrano is fighting Erika Cruz for the world featherweight title on Saturday, the result of which will determine if the rematch with Taylor will go ahead. And Hearn pointed towards a potential third fight in September between the two stars of the lightweight division.

"Now we'll be in a big arena in Dublin, subject to Serrano winning and subject to tying up a deal, and then hopefully in September we revisit Croke Park," said Hearn.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

nrico2006

Quote from: gallsman on February 02, 2023, 02:54:21 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 02, 2023, 11:04:07 AM
How big would the demand be to watch Taylor fight?

Seems to make strange moves, been big fights out there fir her that she could have targeted over the past year or two for her legacy. She could have went after McCaskill again and had a chance to be undisputed at two weights simultaneously. Or why not go after Jonas' titles or even fight Shields.

Has schooled Jonas umpteen times. Nobody has any interest in that fight, never mind it being three weight classes above her.

Shields is similarly absolutely huge in comparison. Shields has been as high as Super Middle.

The elite women fighters move up and down the weights more fluidly, maybe its due to lack of depth or how little power is a factor in this sport. Jonas has been down 3 or 4 weight divisions, and Shields has been down at LM too.
Even talk of Jonas v Shields. Others such as Serrano and McCaskill have moved up and down too. Jonas has fought Taylor as a professional and it was a close fight, same as their last amateur meeting. She now holds a lot of belts, similar to McCaskill, so why not target those titles?  There would be a lot more demand to see those fights than there would for a lot of Taylors previous opponents.
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