Boxing Thread

[DuffleKing]

He didn't win the 3rd, 4th or 5th and very few after that.

Contrary to previous opinion, I love watching ward work. His movement is so fluid and defence tactically excellent.

I had ward by a round overall.

[gallsman]

Have just watched without knowing result and had it 115-114 to kovalev. Scored the 4th and 5th a 10-10.

[gallsman]

Two judges gave Ward the 12th, which was what won him the fight in the end. Thought that was clearly, but not comfortably, kovalev's.

Don't think it's as disgraceful a decision as some are making out as the drawn rounds I gave could be scored either way. I hate this insistence on scoring a 10-9 when there's no clear winner of a round.

[an léirmheastóir]

Ward is shite to watch.

His gameplan tonight was basically counter with a grab, then sneak a punch to the ribs when breaking away, maybe throw in a featherweight jab every so often. If you score those crappy little shots the same as Kovalevs clean hard punches you need your head examined.

How many clean hard punches did he actually land? Granted, when he landed he hurt Ward but barely landed another after he dropped Ward in round 2. For me, Ward bossed the second half if the fight and although I wouldn't have argued with a Kovalev win as it was very close, I had Ward up by two. The work that Ward does as counters are an art in themselves and shouldn't be discounted. Boxing isn't just about who hits the hardest and landing a couple of big shots isn't enough to win you a fight on points.

Watch the Darleys Perez fight beforehand if you want to see proper dodgy judging!

Can't disagree with your assessment 100% on the money

[Medic]

Chris Eubank Junior: "Did they really just give that fight to Andre Ward? Well if Trump can win the presidency then anything is possible these days #KovalevWard"


Sergey Kovalev vs Andre Ward Post Fight Analysis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKr0VhgDGHw

Ward vs Kovalev (post fight thoughts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqlHqHsGzmc

Andre Ward vs Sergey Kovalev Reaction Live post Fight (I had 115-112 Kov) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB-WzV10e98

Andre Ward Beats Sergey Kovalev Reaction! ROBBERY! (HIGHWAY ROBBERY!!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Def6Kt7jiA0

Sergey kovalev ROBBED !!!!!!!!!! AND WARD KNOWS IT...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCyMjdISz1A

Kovalev vs Ward Controversy or Robbery? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VElrzzUE36o

Kovalev vs. Ward RANDOM REACTIONS From Boxing Fraternity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iin4Z70_mwc

[omaghjoe]

Ward is shite to watch.

His gameplan tonight was basically counter with a grab, then sneak a punch to the ribs when breaking away, maybe throw in a featherweight jab every so often. If you score those crappy little shots the same as Kovalevs clean hard punches you need your head examined.

How many clean hard punches did he actually land? Granted, when he landed he hurt Ward but barely landed another after he dropped Ward in round 2. For me, Ward bossed the second half if the fight and although I wouldn't have argued with a Kovalev win as it was very close, I had Ward up by two. The work that Ward does as counters are an art in themselves and shouldn't be discounted. Boxing isn't just about who hits the hardest and landing a couple of big shots isn't enough to win you a fight on points.

Watch the Darleys Perez fight beforehand if you want to see proper dodgy judging!

Can't disagree with your assessment 100% on the money

Alright fair enough Ive calmed down, rewatched the fight, tried to see it from Ward's perspective read a few opinions from both sides of the fence and......

WHAT THE f**k sort of a decision was that. KOVALEV WAS STRAIGHT UP ROBBED!

That fight was over by R6. Ward fought his fight and won more of the later rounds granted but he won them by default, he won them because Kovalev was tired and saving his energy down the stretch to last the distance and to put in a few big rounds to reassert his dominance and seal the points victory. The rounds which sealed the deal where 10 and 12. He won those rounds clearly and how many was he awarded on the cards?..... 1 out of 6....Disgraceful!

I already asked someone that said he had Ward winning all of the last 6 rounds how they had him winning 10? Add 12 to that! Which actually was even more conclusive. On a side note it was rather bizarre move of Kovalev to start the body shots in R12 but he caught Ward real well with one of them and Ward was actually running and hanging on for the rest of the fight.

BTW the fight was rubbish thanks to Ward

[omaghjoe]

He didn't win the 3rd, 4th or 5th and very few after that.

Contrary to previous opinion, I love watching ward work. His movement is so fluid and defence tactically excellent.

I had ward by a round overall.

Despite what compubox says....

Ward Fluid??? What are you on about??? Have you actually watched him box? He's a case of counter with a rush and grab and then wrestle.
How does he expect to score with those tactics? And more to the point how could anyway could any judge deem him to be scoring

[gallsman]

You're talking out of your hole.

Lomachenko-Walters this weekend. Should be good.

[omaghjoe]

You're talking out of your hole.

Lomachenko-Walters this weekend. Should be good.

Ah well then, I wish you could have explained it so simply earlier, I therefore must be wrong.

Tho that should be a good fight yes

[gallsman]

You asked about Compubox. Compubox doesn't score rounds, judges do. It's not amateur boxing. The decision came about as a result of the the fine margins of boxing. Nothing to do with a homer decision. I had kovalev by one with two drawn rounds. Anyone sees those two rounds for ward and you have ward by one. If you see them for kovalev, he wins by three.

[BennyHarp]

He didn't win the 3rd, 4th or 5th and very few after that.

Contrary to previous opinion, I love watching ward work. His movement is so fluid and defence tactically excellent.

I had ward by a round overall.

Despite what compubox says....

Ward Fluid??? What are you on about??? Have you actually watched him box? He's a case of counter with a rush and grab and then wrestle.
How does he expect to score with those tactics? And more to the point how could anyway could any judge deem him to be scoring

Ah come on. I can see how someone might score it to Kovalev as I had a few rounds very close and I understand you may not like Wards style but your analysis of Ward there is utter nonsense. Boxing is more than just letting off big shots. Ward forced Kovalev to miss time and again whilst picking him off to the body. Did you expect him to stand toe to toe with Kovalev?? He worked out the most effective way to win the fight and carried it out.

Paulie Malinaggi is someone who I think normally calls thing pretty well and he actually had Ward up by 4.

[DuffleKing]

Have just watched without knowing result and had it 115-114 to kovalev. Scored the 4th and 5th a 10-10.

I gave ward the 4th and 5th but had the last round 10-10

[DuffleKing]

You're talking out of your hole.

Lomachenko-Walters this weekend. Should be good.

Ah well then, I wish you could have explained it so simply earlier, I therefore must be wrong.

Tho that should be a good fight yes

You haven't seen much boxing and definitely haven't boxed

[nrico2006]

There were a lot of 10/10 rounds in that fight to be honest.  Hopefully Kovalevs management use their head for the rematch and get three neutral judges this time.  At best for Ward, that fight was a draw.

[Medic]

Roy Jones Junior: I love ward but kovalev won https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWdNZcvGXuU

Andre Ward vs Sergey Kovalev | Review by Antonio Tarver  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwbUDOHdMsI

Larry Merchant - Kovalev Won Fight Easy Ward Did Not Win EsNews Boxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx78p6bS3uk

Jim Lampley: 'MY INSTINCT says Kovalev won it!!' | Z-BoxingNews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gQgL0MXLF0

Vasil Lomachenko - Kovalev Beat Andre Ward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4og2P5TJDv0

Ward Vs Kovalev opinion/review  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q282_cS2jsQ

Sergey Kovalev gets screwed by 3 bias American Judges!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KM47glDU2o

The latest robbery! Ward vs Kovalev https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLEawWzNWzk

GOLOVKIN'S TRAINER ABEL SANCHEZ REACTS TO ANDRE WARD'S WIN OVER KOVALEV; HAD IT 1 POINT FOR KOVALEV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnPN8SXgMTw

Kovalev vs. Ward Robbery JUSTIFIED By BOXINGSCENE??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhlmo96XC9Y

Kovalev vs Ward Full Fight!!!! POST FIGHT thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UniZX_6LfM