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orangeman

Quote from: J OGorman on September 13, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
Mayweather will be on the canvas @ some stage in this fight. Should be a cracker


Damp squib.


Such a gulf in class.


The gravy train keeps moving on.

J OGorman

Quote from: orangeman on September 15, 2013, 09:58:54 AM
Quote from: J OGorman on September 13, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
Mayweather will be on the canvas @ some stage in this fight. Should be a cracker


Damp squib.


Such a gulf in class.


The gravy train keeps moving on.

10-4...some operator in the ring

Wildweasel74

would have liked to seen Mayweather in with someone like Roberto Duran in his heyday who was the most fearsome lightweight since Benny Leonard, He not in the weight class of Jones, Hearns, hagler or Sugar Ray at Middle weight can really compare as all would been too strong for him, and Although he fought a while at welterweight, the original Sugar Ray Robinson would have made mince meat out of him, the Reality is boxing hasn't got any really great fighters about to compare him against and he avoided the only other great fighter of that era in Manny (though he past it now)

JimStynes

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 15, 2013, 02:20:19 PM
would have liked to seen Mayweather in with someone like Roberto Duran in his heyday who was the most fearsome lightweight since Benny Leonard, He not in the weight class of Jones, Hearns, hagler or Sugar Ray at Middle weight can really compare as all would been too strong for him, and Although he fought a while at welterweight, the original Sugar Ray Robinson would have made mince meat out of him, the Reality is boxing hasn't got any really great fighters about to compare him against and he avoided the only other great fighter of that era in Manny (though he past it now)

Jesus Christ! The man is a genius! He's beat over 20 world champions and made most of them look shite in the process. A drugged up manny pacquaio wouldn't have stood a chance either! He's now in the history books with the greatest of all time.

under the bar

What a crock of shite.  Mayweather spent years running away from Pacquiao offering excuse after excuse.  That's Mayweathers true legacy.

JimStynes

People just cant admit Mayweather is once in a generation boxer and enjoy his talent while he is still around. He just made a great fighter look very ordinary. Even the press who go after Mayweather after every fight are now taking their hat off to him and admitting that he is simply just too good. He is a dickhead but an absolute joy to watch his boxing ability.

The pacquaio fight was complicated with lots of factors making the fight not happening. Pac was on the gear at the time when he was going through his bad boy phase. Next thing he is saved by god and a different man, goes off the PEDs and loses the next few fights. For the failure to organise the fight I put the blame on Pacquaio, Arum and Floyd himself for not getting it organised. It's history now though, 2010 Pac v Floyd would have been a good fight with Floyd winning easily on points but 2013 Floyd v Pac would end in a stoppage win to floyd. No point in making the fight, safer going after the likes of Garcia. 

gallsman

Quote from: under the bar on September 15, 2013, 05:16:44 PM
What a crock of shite.  Mayweather spent years running away from Pacquiao offering excuse after excuse.  That's Mayweathers true legacy.

What utter nonsense.

under the bar

Fcuk me, are you Floyd's spin doctor or something?? The only factors stopping the fight going ahead was Mayweathers baseless allegations that Pacquiao, the world no.1, was a drugs cheat.  Mayweather then demanded that Pac agree to a more stringent testing than the governing body required.  The Pac camp quite rightly told the challenger to go fcuk himself. Then to shut the mouthy yank up he agreed to the 14 day drug test.  Having had the rug pulled from under his arguement, Mayweather came out with another smokescreen and ran off to hide again.

Christmas Lights

Quote from: under the bar on September 15, 2013, 11:20:57 PM
Fcuk me, are you Floyd's spin doctor or something?? The only factors stopping the fight going ahead was Mayweathers baseless allegations that Pacquiao, the world no.1, was a drugs cheat.  Mayweather then demanded that Pac agree to a more stringent testing than the governing body required.  The Pac camp quite rightly told the challenger to go fcuk himself. Then to shut the mouthy yank up he agreed to the 14 day drug test.  Having had the rug pulled from under his arguement, Mayweather came out with another smokescreen and ran off to hide again.

Lot more politics to it than that.  Mayweather cannot stand the sight of Bob Arum who is Pac's promoter and vice versa.  If two people really dislike each other, its very difficult to do business.
Would have loved to have seen it happen, still think Mayweather wins but with Pac's speed could give him some trouble.

Who would we like to see PBF fight next?  Know this wont be to everyone's liking but id like to see him fight Amir Khan for some reason.  Khan has fast hands and think it would be an interesting fight, its one id like to see anyway.
Floyd seems to be able to deal with power punchers as he can negate their style so they cant really get any power shots off at him.  Id like to see him face someone with genuine hand speed like Khan.
I suppose Danny Garcia would also be an interesting fight

CiKe

Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 16, 2013, 11:41:22 AM
Quote from: under the bar on September 15, 2013, 11:20:57 PM
Fcuk me, are you Floyd's spin doctor or something?? The only factors stopping the fight going ahead was Mayweathers baseless allegations that Pacquiao, the world no.1, was a drugs cheat.  Mayweather then demanded that Pac agree to a more stringent testing than the governing body required.  The Pac camp quite rightly told the challenger to go fcuk himself. Then to shut the mouthy yank up he agreed to the 14 day drug test.  Having had the rug pulled from under his arguement, Mayweather came out with another smokescreen and ran off to hide again.

Lot more politics to it than that.  Mayweather cannot stand the sight of Bob Arum who is Pac's promoter and vice versa.  If two people really dislike each other, its very difficult to do business.
Would have loved to have seen it happen, still think Mayweather wins but with Pac's speed could give him some trouble.

Who would we like to see PBF fight next?  Know this wont be to everyone's liking but id like to see him fight Amir Khan for some reason.  Khan has fast hands and think it would be an interesting fight, its one id like to see anyway.
Floyd seems to be able to deal with power punchers as he can negate their style so they cant really get any power shots off at him.  Id like to see him face someone with genuine hand speed like Khan.
I suppose Danny Garcia would also be an interesting fight

Garcia would get absolutely taken to the cleaners. I reckon Mayweather would win all 12 rounds if it went that long. Garcia has a good chin though, so may last the distance but he'd probably take a horrific beating.

I'd love to see Floyd step up. Fighting anyone under 154lbs is going to be the same result so time to spice things up. Weather it is feasible or not I don't know. You'd imagine that someone like Martinez or Golovkin would be too big and powerful but with Floyd you just never know.

Wildweasel74

He never fought a truely great fighter, alot of good fighters on the slide like De La Hoya,Mosely yes, as for world champions, there is  maybe 20 -30 belts out there, then add that to 4 different federations, then hes going into end up fighting men who already have belts,  compare that to the days of sugar ray Robinson when there were only 8 belts, could he have went with Henry Armstrong who won 3 belts at different weights when the weight difference was huge. Even Roberto Duran took on Hearns and Hagler when he knew the weight different would count against him. Hes a very good fighter of this era but not even in the top 5 of all time at his weight level. Could you imagine him moving up a weight class to middle weight to fight someone like Roy jone Jr when he fought at that weight, he get destroyed.

Minder

Haye v Fury postponed due to Haye getting injured
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

BennyHarp

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Quote from: Minder on September 21, 2013, 12:50:49 PM
Haye v Fury postponed due to Haye getting injured

That's very disappointing. Was looking forward to watching this fight. That's two fights in a row Haye has pulled out of and only one fight in two and a half years. I wonder is he losing the heart for it? I can't understand why he'd risk sparring so close to the fight.
That was never a square ball!!

heganboy

apparently his last session before the fight. Accidents happen and all that, but seriously thats an expensive 7 stitches..
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

All of a Sludden

Amir Khan is to do battle with Floyd Mayweather in the richest fight ever to involve a British boxer.

Bolton's former Olympic hero will meet the greatest pound-for-pound fighter in the world in Las Vegas on May 3.

Khan's share of this $200million blockbuster is expected to be no less than $6m and is likely to climb to at least double that from pay-TV sales on both sides of the Atlantic.

The official announcement will be made in the next few days and Khan has already pulled out of his  challenge to world welterweight champion Devon Alexander, scheduled for December 7 in New York, to ensure that his dream fight with Mayweather is not jeopardised.
Khan is being given this opportunity of a lifetime thanks to a conviction in America that his exceptional speed will present a unique test to Mayweather, who has dealt imperiously with all threats from bigger and supposedly stronger foes.
Stephen Espinosa, head of sports for the giant Showtime cable TV network which bankrolls both men, says: 'Floyd has seen off the tough, heavy punchers. It remains to be seen what he will do against extreme speed and I like the Khan fight very much.'
Khan had already begun preparing in California to face Alexander and will remain almost permanently in camp there with his new trainer Virgil Hunter for the next seven months.
Mayweather had expressed interest in fighting at Wembley but reliable sources in America confirm that prospect has been discounted on financial grounds.
Not only would an early-afternoon timing in the US compromise pay-per-view takings there but even a live gate of 70,000 at the stadium would generate revenue of no more than £7million. There are also significant tax benefits from boxing in Nevada.

Mayweather's master-class victory over Canelo Alvarez broke the $20m (£12.5m) barrier for ticket sales at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Vegas, while Showtime pay-per-view subscriptions reached $157m... and rising.
Khan's chance comes even though, as a two-time world light-welterweight champion, he lost his belts in successive bouts with Lamont Peterson and Danny Garcia.
Even though he has redeemed himself with comeback victories over Carlos Molina and another former world champion, Julio Diaz, he will be viewed in some quarters as jumping the queue to board the Mayweather money train.
However, the ring's newest mantra is 'speed kills' and Golden Boy, the promoters of both men, will be using that special asset of Khan's as a foundation of the massive marketing campaign to come.
That will include a TV documentary series, with the episodes focusing on Khan providing an exotic and fascinating insight into the life and times of the world's pre-eminent, newly-wed Asian boxer.
There will also be a multi-city promotional tour in the new year, which will bring Mayweather to Britain.

Initial public reaction is likely to be that Khan has little chance against the the superlative ring craftsman of his generation and he will enter the betting as a heavy underdog.
Those odds are likely to shorten, however, as boxing weighs up all the factors surrounding the most extraordinary evening of Khan's existence.
While Mayweather is nothing short of being a genius in the ring he struggled in the early rounds against the speed of Zab Judah – who Khan KO'd in six -  before securing a points victory.
Nor is he a one-punch knockout artist like the two men to have stopped Khan, namely Garcia and Breidis Prescott.
Mayweather is more a cumulative puncher and when he stopped Ricky Hatton six years ago the concussive effect was compounded by Manchester's Hitman striking his head against a corner post as he went down.

Then there is the age factor.  Khan, who will be 27 in December, is 10 years younger than Mayweather, who has announced that he is in the final stages of his career.
This will be the third in his series of six fights with Showtime on a contract expected to net him more than $200m. He has banked $41.5m from his virtuoso performance against Canelo, with more to come when figures are in for overseas TV and merchandising revenue.
It is unclear whether he will box on beyond the end of that contract in the autumn of 2015. That decision is likely to depend on whether he shows signs of slowing down. Older boxers can hit the age barrier at any moment, virtually without notice.
While that is unlikely to afflict Mayweather as early next May, the interim does give Khan the time to be in the most potent condition of his life.

Khan has promised Hunter that he will eschew his celebrity lifestyle of late, after his trainer warned that nothing less will do from now on than Mayweather's exemplary, rigorous commitment to 'hard work and dedication.'
He will have to remain grounded through the star-spangled hype which will precede this happening of immense sporting magnitude, complete with its chat show appearances on network television.
And where Alvarez whipped up the support and hard cash of tens of millions of his Mexican fans, Khan will be expected to excite massive interest in Asian communities in America, Britain, the Middle East and across the world.
No matter how wary the British reservations may be about his chances of dethroning the great Mayweather, there is certain to be a trans-Atlantic invasion of Las Vegas next spring.

While the number of supporters following Khan may not reach the 30,000 who made the pilgrimage for Hatton's tilt at Mayweather in 2007, the British interest seems certain to push the MGM gate revenue record for boxing in Nevada even higher.
And, in one crucial sense, the belief that Mayweather is omnipotent works heavily in favour of our highest profile ambassador for Anglo-Moslem relations.
Khan is totally convinced that his speed and skills can overcome Mayweather.
Even if he fails in that ambitious bid for ultimate ring glory, no-one will think any the worse of him.
And if he were to lose heroically in a terrific fight he will enjoy enormous exposure and acclaim around the world – with his market value for future world title challenges as significantly enhanced as his experience of the mega-occasion.
This, for Khan, this, is a  no-lose situation.
I'm gonna show you as gently as I can how much you don't know.