The promotion of families in Europe

Started by Dolph1, February 14, 2019, 06:02:59 PM

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Dolph1

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Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2019, 04:54:45 PM
Didn't Ceaucescu come up with similar daftness in Romania in the 80s.
Wasn't much stability afterwards :D
I presume the anti EU Hungarian PM will use EU taxpayers money to fund his Hitlerite scheme.

How is it "hitlerite" ?

If you complain about a declining population you take steps to help remediate the problem. Make it possible for larger families to exist.
Having indigenous stable families will lead to a more productive and harmonious country.


What's your solution?


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Rossfan

Hitler wanted all good Aryan Germans to produce loads of "indigenous " babies.
He had his SS men father a load of kids.
This latter day Horthy is coming up with similar nonsense.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Dolph1

Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2019, 05:59:15 PM
Hitler wanted all good Aryan Germans to produce loads of "indigenous " babies.
He had his SS men father a load of kids.
This latter day Horthy is coming up with similar nonsense.

Ok - so if there are not loads of indigenous babies produced what is your solution?
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omaghjoe

There is an obvious ethno-nationalist reason for this Hungarian government policy and if they dont develop the economic opportunities at home it will be fool-hearty as the young will emigrate as we in these shores know.
So to enact a policy like this independent of other countries especially neighbouring countries who have similar population stagnation problems but have stronger economies means that they will just be creating a labour pool for your neighbours

However to over focus on this Hungarian governments reasons is to ignore the problem of slowing population growth and an ever aging population. 

The entire world population is slowing rapidly so immigration cant solve this problem for all countries especially large ones.

Rossfan

If "The entire world population is slowing rapidly" where will immigrants come from?
Uranus?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Dolph1 on February 15, 2019, 04:58:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2019, 04:54:45 PM
Didn't Ceaucescu come up with similar daftness in Romania in the 80s.
Wasn't much stability afterwards :D
I presume the anti EU Hungarian PM will use EU taxpayers money to fund his Hitlerite scheme.

How is it "hitlerite" ?

If you complain about a declining population you take steps to help remediate the problem. Make it possible for larger families to exist.
Having indigenous stable families will lead to a more productive and harmonious country.


What's your solution?

Paid family leave to make it easier for people to have babies. Healthcare for all. Subsidized daycare. Free education provided by the state. A living wage so that parents don't have to work two and three jobs and stand a chance of actually seeing their children during their waking hours. In other words, all the things that miserable hate-filled conservatives like you have been railing against for years.

The hypocrisy of you people is quite remarkable. On the one hand you throw "family values" around as an election slogan, but as soon as you cheat your way into political office you do everything to subvert family life at every turn. You're nothing but a shower of conservatives.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Dolph1 on February 15, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2019, 05:59:15 PM
Hitler wanted all good Aryan Germans to produce loads of "indigenous " babies.
He had his SS men father a load of kids.
This latter day Horthy is coming up with similar nonsense.

Ok - so if there are not loads of indigenous babies produced what is your solution?

I think your use of the word indiginious is telling.

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 17, 2019, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Dolph1 on February 15, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2019, 05:59:15 PM
Hitler wanted all good Aryan Germans to produce loads of "indigenous " babies.
He had his SS men father a load of kids.
This latter day Horthy is coming up with similar nonsense.

Ok - so if there are not loads of indigenous babies produced what is your solution?

I think your use of the word indiginious is telling.
Shouldn't that bile be raised at the poster who first utilised the phrase?
..........

LCohen

Quote from: omaghjoe on February 15, 2019, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 15, 2019, 03:35:15 PM
Nobodies wages increase for having extra children so why should it on the state ?

Because of the economic importance and subsequent political stability.

Explain to be how a family being a family of say 6 is more politically stable than a family of 5?

LCohen

Quote from: Dolph1 on February 15, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2019, 05:59:15 PM
Hitler wanted all good Aryan Germans to produce loads of "indigenous " babies.
He had his SS men father a load of kids.
This latter day Horthy is coming up with similar nonsense.

Ok - so if there are not loads of indigenous babies produced what is your solution?

Immigration is the short term solution. Longer term the problem reduces but doesn't go away. But immigration buys you time

Rossfan

Immigration not allowed in "Indigenous " Horthyite Hungary.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

LCohen

Orban is a terrible person. If you find yourself agreeing with him the chances are you are a cnut.

Global birth rates are too high. The long term sustainability of the planet is at stake. The standard of living of everyone on the planet is at stake. Having more "indigenous" babies born in country A to do the work when humans already exist in other countries to do the work is short term parochial thinking

LCohen

Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
Immigration not allowed in "Indigenous " Horthyite Hungary.

Still he has the support of the DUP and the Tory MEPs so probably a good lad

omaghjoe

Quote from: LCohen on February 19, 2019, 09:12:50 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on February 15, 2019, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 15, 2019, 03:35:15 PM
Nobodies wages increase for having extra children so why should it on the state ?

Because of the economic importance and subsequent political stability.

Explain to be how a family being a family of say 6 is more politically stable than a family of 5?

Macro
Political stability is a consequence of economic stability. A primary factor in economic stability is working population growth. Increased birth rate will lead to a larger working population

LCohen

Quote from: omaghjoe on February 19, 2019, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: LCohen on February 19, 2019, 09:12:50 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on February 15, 2019, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 15, 2019, 03:35:15 PM
Nobodies wages increase for having extra children so why should it on the state ?

Because of the economic importance and subsequent political stability.

Explain to be how a family being a family of say 6 is more politically stable than a family of 5?

Macro
Political stability is a consequence of economic stability. A primary factor in economic stability is working population growth. Increased birth rate will lead to a larger working population

Increasing the global birth rate will increase political and economic stability????

Any views on standards of living across the globe? Biodiversity across the global? Global pollution?