Catholics voting DUP

Started by longballin, June 05, 2018, 11:54:04 AM

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tiempo

Quote from: smelmoth on August 22, 2018, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: tiempo on August 22, 2018, 05:40:29 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on August 18, 2018, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 08, 2018, 07:42:15 PM
no-one born on the island of Ireland is british. Fact.


you see that is where you go wrong. At the very beginning. The word for what in your head is UKish is British. This is not a difficult concept and it would be embarrassing for you if you were to make this mistake again and worrying for those who care about you

https://soundcloud.com/thestandwitheamondunphy/ep-211-robert-fisk-on-the-age-of-trump

36mins 20sec if you want to hear it from the mouth of a British subject. Way and lie down you quisling.

I suppose you're going a post now that proves Robert Fisk cannot be wrong?
Anyway thanks for the quisling jibe. It proves all by suspicions

I'm glad you agree with me.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/foster-has-blown-an-important-opportunity-by-not-meeting-the-pope-1.3604235?mode=amp


However, there remains an enormous appetite in Northern Ireland for symbolic acts of rapprochement. There have been three such moments since Stormont collapsed: Ian Paisley jnr thanking Martin McGuinness for his leadership and friendship to the Paisley family; Foster and O'Neill shaking hands at McGuinness's funeral; and DUP and Sinn Féin former ministers Edwin Poots and John O'Dowd speaking of the need for reconciliation, after Sinn Féin's Barry McElduff was accused of mocking the Kingsmill massacre. All provoked an outpouring of public emotion. Such acts might not sway a single vote for Sinn Féin and the DUP but they demonstrate the desire for agreement amid the fog of anger, making agreement easier to reach.
Meeting the pope could have been another such a moment, in large part because it is the only unionist gesture comparable to McGuinness's 2012 handshake with the Queen. The sense among republicans in particular that this has never been reciprocated, and that McGuinness had thus been made to look a fool, was no small matter in Stormont's collapse – it was voiced strongly to the Sinn Féin leadership by party members.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Applesisapples

Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2018, 09:57:08 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/foster-has-blown-an-important-opportunity-by-not-meeting-the-pope-1.3604235?mode=amp


However, there remains an enormous appetite in Northern Ireland for symbolic acts of rapprochement. There have been three such moments since Stormont collapsed: Ian Paisley jnr thanking Martin McGuinness for his leadership and friendship to the Paisley family; Foster and O'Neill shaking hands at McGuinness's funeral; and DUP and Sinn Féin former ministers Edwin Poots and John O'Dowd speaking of the need for reconciliation, after Sinn Féin's Barry McElduff was accused of mocking the Kingsmill massacre. All provoked an outpouring of public emotion. Such acts might not sway a single vote for Sinn Féin and the DUP but they demonstrate the desire for agreement amid the fog of anger, making agreement easier to reach.
Meeting the pope could have been another such a moment, in large part because it is the only unionist gesture comparable to McGuinness's 2012 handshake with the Queen. The sense among republicans in particular that this has never been reciprocated, and that McGuinness had thus been made to look a fool, was no small matter in Stormont's collapse – it was voiced strongly to the Sinn Féin leadership by party members.
And not just party members, many ordinary nationalists are flabbergasted by the total lack of respect emanating from Foster and the DUP the supposed leaders of Unionism.

Milltown Row2

I would think that when Paisely and McGuinness were in charge there would have been some catholic voters in main unionist areas that would have voted DUP to keep that successfull power sharing partnership going, rather having the UUP in.. since that break up I doubt very mucg that any Nationalist or catholic would vote DUP ever again
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

AQMP

Quote from: Applesisapples on August 23, 2018, 10:36:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2018, 09:57:08 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/foster-has-blown-an-important-opportunity-by-not-meeting-the-pope-1.3604235?mode=amp


However, there remains an enormous appetite in Northern Ireland for symbolic acts of rapprochement. There have been three such moments since Stormont collapsed: Ian Paisley jnr thanking Martin McGuinness for his leadership and friendship to the Paisley family; Foster and O'Neill shaking hands at McGuinness's funeral; and DUP and Sinn Féin former ministers Edwin Poots and John O'Dowd speaking of the need for reconciliation, after Sinn Féin's Barry McElduff was accused of mocking the Kingsmill massacre. All provoked an outpouring of public emotion. Such acts might not sway a single vote for Sinn Féin and the DUP but they demonstrate the desire for agreement amid the fog of anger, making agreement easier to reach.
Meeting the pope could have been another such a moment, in large part because it is the only unionist gesture comparable to McGuinness's 2012 handshake with the Queen. The sense among republicans in particular that this has never been reciprocated, and that McGuinness had thus been made to look a fool, was no small matter in Stormont's collapse – it was voiced strongly to the Sinn Féin leadership by party members.
And not just party members, many ordinary nationalists are flabbergasted by the total lack of respect emanating from Foster and the DUP the supposed leaders of Unionism.
Both spot on.  It always amazes me how a lot of commentators, journos and the "why don't they all just get back to work" brigade seem to ignore this point.

armaghniac

Quote from: AQMP on August 23, 2018, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 23, 2018, 10:36:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2018, 09:57:08 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/foster-has-blown-an-important-opportunity-by-not-meeting-the-pope-1.3604235?mode=amp


However, there remains an enormous appetite in Northern Ireland for symbolic acts of rapprochement. There have been three such moments since Stormont collapsed: Ian Paisley jnr thanking Martin McGuinness for his leadership and friendship to the Paisley family; Foster and O'Neill shaking hands at McGuinness's funeral; and DUP and Sinn Féin former ministers Edwin Poots and John O'Dowd speaking of the need for reconciliation, after Sinn Féin's Barry McElduff was accused of mocking the Kingsmill massacre. All provoked an outpouring of public emotion. Such acts might not sway a single vote for Sinn Féin and the DUP but they demonstrate the desire for agreement amid the fog of anger, making agreement easier to reach.
Meeting the pope could have been another such a moment, in large part because it is the only unionist gesture comparable to McGuinness's 2012 handshake with the Queen. The sense among republicans in particular that this has never been reciprocated, and that McGuinness had thus been made to look a fool, was no small matter in Stormont's collapse – it was voiced strongly to the Sinn Féin leadership by party members.
And not just party members, many ordinary nationalists are flabbergasted by the total lack of respect emanating from Foster and the DUP the supposed leaders of Unionism.
Both spot on.  It always amazes me how a lot of commentators, journos and the "why don't they all just get back to work" brigade seem to ignore this point.

Because there is a spurious equality "one is as bad as the other" put forward all the time.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

johnnycool

Quote from: AQMP on August 23, 2018, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 23, 2018, 10:36:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2018, 09:57:08 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/foster-has-blown-an-important-opportunity-by-not-meeting-the-pope-1.3604235?mode=amp


However, there remains an enormous appetite in Northern Ireland for symbolic acts of rapprochement. There have been three such moments since Stormont collapsed: Ian Paisley jnr thanking Martin McGuinness for his leadership and friendship to the Paisley family; Foster and O'Neill shaking hands at McGuinness's funeral; and DUP and Sinn Féin former ministers Edwin Poots and John O'Dowd speaking of the need for reconciliation, after Sinn Féin's Barry McElduff was accused of mocking the Kingsmill massacre. All provoked an outpouring of public emotion. Such acts might not sway a single vote for Sinn Féin and the DUP but they demonstrate the desire for agreement amid the fog of anger, making agreement easier to reach.
Meeting the pope could have been another such a moment, in large part because it is the only unionist gesture comparable to McGuinness's 2012 handshake with the Queen. The sense among republicans in particular that this has never been reciprocated, and that McGuinness had thus been made to look a fool, was no small matter in Stormont's collapse – it was voiced strongly to the Sinn Féin leadership by party members.
And not just party members, many ordinary nationalists are flabbergasted by the total lack of respect emanating from Foster and the DUP the supposed leaders of Unionism.
Both spot on.  It always amazes me how a lot of commentators, journos and the "why don't they all just get back to work" brigade seem to ignore this point.

I still find it galling that the local media still believe that the reason there's no Assembly is purely down to Sinn Feins intransigence surrounding the ILA.
Have they not been commentating on the RHI Inquiry which going by what has been brought out in the open is at best a huge clusterfuck of incompetence and at worst a fraudulent attempt to suck as much money out of Whitehall (initially) as possible and lining mates pockets at will.

I think Arlene stepping down was quite mild of Martin back then as this Inquiry is proving.

Orior

Twitter melting by the fact that the DUP have an STD
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: Orior on February 17, 2019, 08:16:15 AM
Twitter melting by the fact that the DUP have an STD

In all honesty, who overviews their campaigns.

playwiththewind1st


Ambrose

Quote from: Orior on February 17, 2019, 08:16:15 AM
Twitter melting by the fact that the DUP have an STD

Emma Little Pengelly is the most likely source for STDs according to Ian og.
You can't live off history and tradition forever