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I have no difficulty with playing the anthem the association identifies as its national anthem. The same is played before the FA Cup final. It's not an anthem being played for either team in the match.

I suppose the vast majority of people attending the FA Cup Final have no problem with GSTQ and indeed would embrace it.  It's slightly different in a divided society like ours.  It would appear that Cliftonville Football Club recognise this.  The IFA have been making much of alleged FAI attempts to "poach" nationalists players from the North, indeed the manager recently claimed the FAI were specifically targeting Catholic players.  The insistence that GSTQ is played seems like a backward step to me in alleged attempts to make NI soccer more attractive to those sections of the community.

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One side gets offended because once in the year a Loyalist band wants to march up "their" road which takes five minutes. The other side object to G.S.T.Q. being played at a sports final.
No compromise, no willingness to compromise.
??? who are the 2 sides you are talking about in this statement?  and what, if any compromises do you propose?

Exactly, I think it would be the same side getting offended in both examples??

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Certainly Tory cuts are hitting hard but increased demand caused by immigration is a contributory factor

EU immigrants provide more than enough taxes to provide these facilities, the Tories chose not to while blaming the immigrants.

I remember watching a episode of BBC Question Time, probably about 5 years ago, when the audience were complaining about the pressure immigrants were putting on the NHS and schools in the area.  One of the panel pointed out that he had checked the Census stats and that in 2011 that particular constituency was 93% White British, so it was hard to argue that it was the other 7% putting the strain on the NHS and schools.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 04, 2018, 03:06:50 PM »
$tevie Me is a bluenose

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General discussion / Re: Drugs in UK sports....
« on: May 04, 2018, 01:58:23 PM »
Three time World Champion and 2008 Olympic 1500m Champion Asbel Kiprop of Kenya has tested positive for EPO.  It transpires he was alerted to the fact that he was about to be tested.  Ironically he won his 2008 gold medal after finishing 2nd in the race when the original winner was stripped of the gold after failing a drugs test.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/may/04/epo-suspect-asbel-kiprop-athletics-integrity-unit

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And so the IFA spurn yet another chance of football for all by insisting on GSTQ before Cliftonville vs Coleraine. To add insult to injury Radio Bladh roll out Wee Seamy to underline the Britishness of the occasion. How can we take them seriously? The IFA that is?

Strange decision, given that the anthem was not played before the 2013 and 2009 finals both of which featured Cliftonville.
Illustrates that the majority within the IFA are n to serious about football for all, except on their terms.

I note that the IFA statement says that they are following "current board policy agreed in August 2013" (i.e. after Cliftonville's last appearance in the Cup Final).  It would be interesting to read what that policy actually is.

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Result:

Orfhlaith Begley (SF)         16,346 - 46.7%
Thomas Buchanan (DUP)    8,390 - 23.9%
Daniel McCrossan (SDLP)    6,254 - 17.9%
Chris Smyth (UUP)             2,909 - 8.3%
Stephen Donnelly (All)        1,130 - 3.2%

Turnout:  55%
SF Majority 7,956
Not a bad performance by McCrossan, up in share of votes and actual votes given the considerably reduced turnout. The outcome was never in doubt anyway.

Yeah, I think he'll be happy enough with that result. 

I note turnout in Carrickmore, Orfhlaith Begley's (and Barry McElduff's) home village was 60%, down 12.5% from the election last year.  Election fatigue, plus the winner never being in doubt probably accounts for the lower turnout.

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And so the IFA spurn yet another chance of football for all by insisting on GSTQ before Cliftonville vs Coleraine. To add insult to injury Radio Bladh roll out Wee Seamy to underline the Britishness of the occasion. How can we take them seriously? The IFA that is?

Strange decision, given that the anthem was not played before the 2013 and 2009 finals both of which featured Cliftonville.

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In other election news, across the water Labour fails to make significant gains in the English Council elections as the Tory vote holds up.

Hmmm. Interesting one that.

UKIP vote has collapsed - they've lost nearly all their councillors - and it seems that has benefited the Tories.  Any anti-Brexit vote seems to have gone to the Lib Dems.  It's a sort of an "as you were" result overall but it's disappointing for Labour and Corbyn.  They didn't make the big gains in London that were predicted.  Their long term Brexit strategy of "don't interrupt the Tories while they're making a mistake" has some logic to it but ordinary voters seem confused as to what their Brexit policy is.

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In other election news, across the water Labour fails to make significant gains in the English Council elections as the Tory vote holds up.

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Result:

Orfhlaith Begley (SF)         16,346 - 46.7%
Thomas Buchanan (DUP)    8,390 - 23.9%
Daniel McCrossan (SDLP)    6,254 - 17.9%
Chris Smyth (UUP)             2,909 - 8.3%
Stephen Donnelly (All)        1,130 - 3.2%

Turnout:  55%
SF Majority 7,956

Comfortable hold for SF. Turnout was down more than 13% on last year so vote share is a better indicator than number of votes cast.  Good performance from SDLP and decent show by the UUP.  McCrossan's share of the vote up nearly 5% and UUP up 3.2%.  SF down 4% and DUP down 3%.  Seems that more SF and DUP voters stayed at home but there's still a wee swing from SF to SDLP.  Local sources tell me that SF's stance on the 8th Amendment Referendum was an issue for some people.

Other than that there was the gun slinging in Greencastle.  I note this incident is now being played down significantly.  UUP candidate Chris Smyth tweeted yesterday that a man came in pointing a gun saying he was "looking for unionists".  This immediately didn't ring true as he was in Greencastle where unionists are, as they say, like hen's teeth!  Arlene Foster called it an attack on democracy.  It now seems that as the man produced his polling card to vote a member of staff saw what she thought was a gun.  The man voted, left the polling station, staff contacted the PSNI and since he has just given in his polling card they had his name and address, so the PSNI went and arrested him and are investigating.  DUP Belfast City Councillor Dale Pankhurst had called for the election to be suspended and for SF to be excluded from a re-arranged by-election!

I'd say SF will be happy with a solid performance by virtual unknown Begley.

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General discussion / Re: Paddy Jackson apology
« on: May 03, 2018, 04:58:31 PM »
Sale Sharks sponsors scupper Jackson/Olding deal?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43994265

One of Sale Sharks' main sponsors raised concerns with the club about the reported interest in signing Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding.

Investment firm AJ Bell, the naming rights partner for Sale's stadium, said it had told director of rugby Steve Diamond of its concerns.  Sale have dismissed reports they were in advanced negotiations with the former Ireland and Ulster players.  The pair were cleared of rape after a nine-week trial.
But there was controversy over social media and WhatsApp messages they had exchanged and their contracts were later revoked by Ulster and the Irish Rugby Football Union

The BBC has learned that AJ Bell co-founder Andy Bell spoke directly with Diamond to discuss the company's concerns.  In a statement, Mr Bell said: "Sale Sharks are very aware of the strong values engrained (sic) within our business, many of which are shared by the club and their supporters.

"We have total faith in Steve Diamond and the owners to reflect these values whilst they are stewards of the club."

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f**king hell. Cops at a polling station In Greencastle after someone brandished a gun.

Was somebody caught voting Alliance? ;)

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General discussion / Re: European Leagues.
« on: May 03, 2018, 04:17:01 PM »
Unfortunately I fear that Real are now a shoo in and that pri**k Ronaldo will get the Ballon D'Or.

Dunno, Real's defence isn't up to much, they're struggling at right back, Varane can be inconsistent and Ramos looks maybe past his best.  I think Liverpool are in with a great chance though Real may take heart from the fact that L'pool conceded 2 goals in the final 10 mins of each game in the semi.

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