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General discussion / Re: The National Anthem
« on: October 04, 2011, 08:53:09 AM »
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: October 03, 2011, 07:10:06 PM »Where are you getting the €156k from?Looks like a smart move by Mary Davis to disclose her finances - stops a 'drip, drip' of details in the press over the duration of the campaign.
http://www.thejournal.ie/mary-davis-releases-full-tax-filings-and-encourages-other-candidates-to-follow-suit-243849-Oct2011/
Her challenge for the other candidates to do likewise could also be interesting.
Is her position as head of the Special Olympics (salary €156k in 2010) a full time job? If so where the feck does she get the time to sit on all these boards?
EDIT: Just checked my link and the €156k is all earnings, including position within Special Olympics Ireland. The role of Chairperson (or Board member) generally isn't a full-time job.
So the €156k is her earnings from all her positions, then??
In the North anyway, is a P60 not issued by the employer (in this case Special Olympics) detailing the amount of tax paid by the employee? Maybe in the South it's different and it's more like a tax return listing all income?? If you read the declaration above the words "Employer's Name" it would seem that this refers to her Special Olympics postion...note the words "blah blah blah in this employment"
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: October 03, 2011, 07:00:53 PM »Where are you getting the €156k from?Looks like a smart move by Mary Davis to disclose her finances - stops a 'drip, drip' of details in the press over the duration of the campaign.
http://www.thejournal.ie/mary-davis-releases-full-tax-filings-and-encourages-other-candidates-to-follow-suit-243849-Oct2011/
Her challenge for the other candidates to do likewise could also be interesting.
Is her position as head of the Special Olympics (salary €156k in 2010) a full time job? If so where the feck does she get the time to sit on all these boards?
EDIT: Just checked my link and the €156k is all earnings, including position within Special Olympics Ireland. The role of Chairperson (or Board member) generally isn't a full-time job.
So the €156k is her earnings from all her positions, then??
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: October 03, 2011, 06:58:50 PM »Where are you getting the €156k from?Looks like a smart move by Mary Davis to disclose her finances - stops a 'drip, drip' of details in the press over the duration of the campaign.
http://www.thejournal.ie/mary-davis-releases-full-tax-filings-and-encourages-other-candidates-to-follow-suit-243849-Oct2011/
Her challenge for the other candidates to do likewise could also be interesting.
Is her position as head of the Special Olympics (salary €156k in 2010) a full time job? If so where the feck does she get the time to sit on all these boards?
http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2011/10/20111003marydavisp60.pdf
Year ended 31/12/10
Total Pay (i.e. gross pay less any allowance pension payments) €156,310.00
This relates to her post with her employer "Special Olympics - Irish Branch"
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: October 03, 2011, 06:23:58 PM »Looks like a smart move by Mary Davis to disclose her finances - stops a 'drip, drip' of details in the press over the duration of the campaign.
http://www.thejournal.ie/mary-davis-releases-full-tax-filings-and-encourages-other-candidates-to-follow-suit-243849-Oct2011/
Her challenge for the other candidates to do likewise could also be interesting.
Is her position as head of the Special Olympics (salary €156k in 2010) a full time job? If so where the feck does she get the time to sit on all these boards?
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: October 01, 2011, 10:29:29 AM »
Ulick makes some good points. Apart from Jedward who clearly won the night it was hard to give a ranking as such and I would put a few of the candidates in joint 3.5 position. The format was poor and seven candidates is a big number to fit into a show with ad breaks etc. There were no clear winners or losers. This ranking is who I thought it was a good night for:
1) Dana - I wouldn't vote for her in a fit but I thought she came across well until the question about the confessional. She was straighforward and passionate. She will appeal to a certain constituency in the country and she benefitted most from the exposure.
2) Sean Gallagher - Again I thought he came across well. A bit waffly on the specifics but didn't try to hide his FF connections and tried to bring enterprise to the forefront of the argument.
3) Michael D - Took a while to warm up but should be pleased with the outcome. No gaffes but he looks and speaks a bit like an old uncle who comes around on Xmas Day has a few bevvies and entertains with stories about what it was like in his day. The only downside was he looked a lot older than the rest but might be viewed as a safe pair of hands
4) Martin McGuinness - His opening was a bit cringeworthy with too many "greed" "big wages" "rich people" "bankers" etc shoe horned in. Got better as the night went on. No major knockout blows delivered by Tub or other candidates. Solid rather than spectacular. Won't have won many votes but won't have turned people off either though he seems to have brought the issue of the salary to the fore.
5) Gay Mitchell - For someone called Gay he looked like everyone belonging to him had just died. The Irish John Major, grey, dull but has met Mandela (surely the acid test for candidates!) and was responsible for something about a Value for Money Act??
6) David Norris - Did nothing to change my view that the is a failed frustrated actor who can't wait to be Pres as he thinks he will be able to strut about the world stage quoting Joyce. A complete chancer and potential loose cannon who would be a catastrophic choice as President.
7) Mary Davis - My first real exposure to her and I thought she was a disaster. Sure she's a member of the Council of State, a body so influential it meets every two years. She couldn't fill 30 seconds to sell herself and frankly looked like she didn't really know why she was there.
Just my opinion...
1) Dana - I wouldn't vote for her in a fit but I thought she came across well until the question about the confessional. She was straighforward and passionate. She will appeal to a certain constituency in the country and she benefitted most from the exposure.
2) Sean Gallagher - Again I thought he came across well. A bit waffly on the specifics but didn't try to hide his FF connections and tried to bring enterprise to the forefront of the argument.
3) Michael D - Took a while to warm up but should be pleased with the outcome. No gaffes but he looks and speaks a bit like an old uncle who comes around on Xmas Day has a few bevvies and entertains with stories about what it was like in his day. The only downside was he looked a lot older than the rest but might be viewed as a safe pair of hands
4) Martin McGuinness - His opening was a bit cringeworthy with too many "greed" "big wages" "rich people" "bankers" etc shoe horned in. Got better as the night went on. No major knockout blows delivered by Tub or other candidates. Solid rather than spectacular. Won't have won many votes but won't have turned people off either though he seems to have brought the issue of the salary to the fore.
5) Gay Mitchell - For someone called Gay he looked like everyone belonging to him had just died. The Irish John Major, grey, dull but has met Mandela (surely the acid test for candidates!) and was responsible for something about a Value for Money Act??
6) David Norris - Did nothing to change my view that the is a failed frustrated actor who can't wait to be Pres as he thinks he will be able to strut about the world stage quoting Joyce. A complete chancer and potential loose cannon who would be a catastrophic choice as President.
7) Mary Davis - My first real exposure to her and I thought she was a disaster. Sure she's a member of the Council of State, a body so influential it meets every two years. She couldn't fill 30 seconds to sell herself and frankly looked like she didn't really know why she was there.
Just my opinion...
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General discussion / Re: The Late Late show
« on: September 30, 2011, 07:27:15 PM »Presidential interviews and debate tonight.
Will Ryan be up to it? Will it be decisive for the campaign?
Probably not. Probably not.
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: September 30, 2011, 05:59:50 PM »Was listening to the last word today. Analyst say;
"MMG poster slogan is 'the people's president'. He must think he is Diana."
It could be worse...he could think he's Dana
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: September 30, 2011, 05:58:57 PM »I have a Martin McGuinness poster staring at me from the door of my office.
Of course Marty will deny his poster is there. Or he may accept it's there but he may say that I should move on and look to the time when his poster won't be there. If it was there at all. And if it was there when I thought it was there it didn't make an impact. Its message was read by nobody.
Me head hurts.
SS, remember also that Obama and Nelson Mandela have no problem with that poster. Anyway I'm bemused that you find the poster an issue. In the North we accepted posters a long time ago. In fact the vast majority of people on the island (and Obama and Mandela) voted for posters. Did I mention I've met Obama and Mandela??
There might be some Martin McGuinness posters out there. We're sorry that there have to be Martin McGuinness posters out there. But I reject that there's a Martin McGuinness poster there. Or there, or there, or there . . .
Lads even the door who is the victim of having the poster stuck to it has moved on. Back in the 1916-21 period the shinners used really heavy duty posters and used nails which completely destroyed the doors. How hypocritical is it now to blame today's shinners of much lesser offences. When Martin discusses this issue he'll "wipe the DOOR with ye!"
Now let's not get into the hierarchy of vicitms here. Youse only want to talk about one type of door, ignoring the thousands of Northern Nationalist doors that were victims of faulty hinges and handles supplied by the British while Unionists were able to access lovely oak panelled doors with solid brass knockers. I challenge Harris, Byrne and O'Toole to come and be a door in the North for a week and see what happens!
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: September 30, 2011, 05:51:22 PM »Late Late Show Presidential Debate tonight. Should be a bit of craic! I wonder what they will ask McGuinness??
All the candidates will also be interviewed one to one by Tubridy except David Norris who was on the show as a guest two weeks ago.
Norris now claiming that RTE are trying to muzzle him by not interviewing him on the Late Late tonight. Also claims people have "moved on" from the letter writing controversy. He obviously doesn't read this board then! I must send him hardstation's contact details!!
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0930/david_norris_president.html
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: September 30, 2011, 04:54:18 PM »
Any hypothetical, academic, Norris posters out there, purely in an ancient Greek context of course?
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: September 30, 2011, 04:41:47 PM »I have a Martin McGuinness poster staring at me from the door of my office.
Of course Marty will deny his poster is there. Or he may accept it's there but he may say that I should move on and look to the time when his poster won't be there. If it was there at all. And if it was there when I thought it was there it didn't make an impact. Its message was read by nobody.
Me head hurts.
SS, remember also that Obama and Nelson Mandela have no problem with that poster. Anyway I'm bemused that you find the poster an issue. In the North we accepted posters a long time ago. In fact the vast majority of people on the island (and Obama and Mandela) voted for posters. Did I mention I've met Obama and Mandela??
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: September 30, 2011, 02:24:54 PM »
Late Late Show Presidential Debate tonight. Should be a bit of craic! I wonder what they will ask McGuinness??
All the candidates will also be interviewed one to one by Tubridy except David Norris who was on the show as a guest two weeks ago.
All the candidates will also be interviewed one to one by Tubridy except David Norris who was on the show as a guest two weeks ago.
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General discussion / Re: The Race for the ARAS.....
« on: September 30, 2011, 11:59:41 AM »maybe because mcaleese was never really involved in real northern politics of electoral campaigns etc - she was more known for political involvement in southern Ireland hence the ff nomination.
also I cannot understand how people are trying to make out that a poem Pearse wrote nearly a hundred of years ago can be twisted and contrued as being of a homosexualesque nature.
Words and ethos back then were a lot different. You didnt have to hide or refuse to use phrases or words like you more or less have to today.
Even 30 years ago, saying you felt gay didnt mean you were homosexual - it meant you were happy.
Poems also mask real references so while the meaning up to the reader - Pearse by all accounts was not gay.
even if he was big deal
As for the man from whom our county ground takes its name...