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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 05, 2018, 04:49:01 PM »
How many people on the street in Norn Iron would recognise and know Rory Best, not very many I would garner.

The witness was behind a screen so she wouldn't even know he was there.

Now you're Rory Best, farmer rugby player you are directed to attend your friends trial, it's not an invitation "Dear Rory, you wouldn't been a sport and attend....etc" He has been told to attend a very serious trial, of course he's bloody well going to attend, he can't second guess any SC's motives, he's not a law student or one of us gobshites with too much time on his hands. He was there in good faith I have no doubt whether he was invited in good faith is another debate and when it comes to ethics and the law that debate would break the internet.

Social media is becoming a scourge and is showing no signs of maturity, the amount of abuse Rory Best has received is disgusting. If any person is on this board was directed by an SC to attend their friends trial and your friend had pleaded not guilty, every single person would attend.

"Farmer rugby player"??

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 05, 2018, 04:23:16 PM »
I think the bigger issue here is why did the Judge tell the jury anything.  As far as the law is concerned it's a public court room and would be perfectly entitled to attend the trial without comment from the bench.  I wonder did the jury ask specifically about his attendance.

Because the jury will have read all of the hysteria in social media and in the MSM and will have drawn their own conclusions like we have seen in this thread.

If they did that it would be grounds for discharging the jury I would have thought.  They will have been warned not to watch media coverage or read about this case where possible.  This is why I am surprised.

As for the term "directed by senior counsel" that likely does not mean compelled to attend.  Counsel will issue directions in any case for a wide variety of reasons, if in one of those directions it was stated to have Best attend that would not compel Best to attend. 

Of course it is not clear which senior directed the attendance and again I am surprised that wasn't made clear either

If Best is not obliged to attend, and again presuming it was the defence team who "directed" him, then he chose to go and therefore the questions over his voluntary attendance are legitimate.

He said he's been called as a character witness and was advised he should go to hear both sides . . . should he not hear both sides before he makes up his mind?! Does this suddenly make him a rape apologist?

I wasn't online much over the weekend but this #notmycaptain bullshit is exactly that!!

In that case it will be interesting to see if he attends should Jackson and/or Olding take the stand.  I never said he was a rape apologist.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 05, 2018, 03:39:55 PM »
I think the bigger issue here is why did the Judge tell the jury anything.  As far as the law is concerned it's a public court room and would be perfectly entitled to attend the trial without comment from the bench.  I wonder did the jury ask specifically about his attendance.

Because the jury will have read all of the hysteria in social media and in the MSM and will have drawn their own conclusions like we have seen in this thread.

If they did that it would be grounds for discharging the jury I would have thought.  They will have been warned not to watch media coverage or read about this case where possible.  This is why I am surprised.

As for the term "directed by senior counsel" that likely does not mean compelled to attend.  Counsel will issue directions in any case for a wide variety of reasons, if in one of those directions it was stated to have Best attend that would not compel Best to attend. 

Of course it is not clear which senior directed the attendance and again I am surprised that wasn't made clear either

If Best is not obliged to attend, and again presuming it was the defence team who "directed" him, then he chose to go and therefore the questions over his voluntary attendance are legitimate.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 05, 2018, 03:10:42 PM »
"I want to make it absolutely clear to you - and clear to the public - the only reason why Mr Rory Best was in this court last week was because he was directed to be here by senior counsel," said the judge.

OK legal eagles..."directed by senor counsel".  Does this mean "compelled" or "advised".   

Edit: I presume the senior counsel referred to here is the defence.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 01, 2018, 09:14:21 AM »
Now May is saying that the impact forecasts leaked this week are preliminary analyses and besides, ministers haven't signed off on them yet.  As a commentator has said "I thought you based policy on the evidence, not based the evidence on your policy".

Brexiteers really can't see beyond the dogma.  They're like party apparatchiks in the old Soviet Union.

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General discussion / Re: Derry/Londonderry
« on: January 31, 2018, 09:21:49 AM »
If the London part is offensive (on the weekend when the GAA dined in Westminster) how should BBC NI read out the result of the forthcoming London V Antrim NFL Div 4 game?

Hopefully, London 0-01 Antrim 6-22

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 30, 2018, 03:57:40 PM »
The future is bright shіte in the sunny uplands of Brexit.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42867668

More experts??!! Yeah jog on mate we'll be grand!

Can't wait for my blue passport.

Some incredible stuff from Brexit ministers today, saying these forecasts are wrong because every Treasury forecast is wrong...

The Treasury saying Brexit will be a complete f**k up whereas the Brexiteers are saying that wrong, it'll just be a normal f**k up.

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General discussion / Re: woman dies for want of a abortion
« on: January 30, 2018, 01:53:46 PM »
What about the morning after-pill?

Should it be banned?

We're not allowing whataboutery here G's Man ;)

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General discussion / Re: Derry/Londonderry
« on: January 30, 2018, 01:52:26 PM »
Ffs little to worry about.Is it not BBC policy to refer to Derry as Londonderry alternately? Some newsreader without any GAA knowledge just doing his or her job.

Ah here, they usually read what's put in front of them. As the OP said it was a GAA result.

She didn't read out what was put in front of her . . .

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“I am responding to your complaint about our 1800 radio bulletin on Sunday 28th January.

I can confirm that our newsreader accidentally misnamed Derry GAA. Although the title Derry was in the script, due to human error our newsreader made an on air adjustment as she read the name.

We fully accept that the correct title of the county board is Derry and apologise for the mistake."

A slip of the tongue as they say.. but lets string her up, and I'm not being sexist  ::)

It wasn't a slip of the tongue...she decided to change it (for whatever reason).  Obviously I'm taking the easy way out and will presume she's an arch bigot ;)

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General discussion / Re: woman dies for want of a abortion
« on: January 30, 2018, 01:48:44 PM »
Abortion on demand is such a pejorative description compared to giving a woman the right to choose. Always a red flag to me when I read so called impartial posts on the discussion.

Four more months of:

Abortion on demand is such a pejorative description compared to giving a woman the right to choose. Always a red flag to me when I read so called impartial posts on the discussion.
v.
Giving a woman the right to choose is such an anodyne description compared to abortion on demand.  Always a red flag to me when I read so called impartial posts on the discussion....

I don't have a vote (buíochas le Dia), so I'm outta here.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 4
« on: January 28, 2018, 03:45:09 PM »
FT Antrim 0-15 Leitrim 0-05

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
« on: January 28, 2018, 02:58:15 PM »
Gal - Tyr, Darren McCurry gets the line after 25 mins

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 4
« on: January 28, 2018, 02:47:47 PM »
Half Time in Belfast - Antrim 0-6 Leitrim 0-4

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: January 28, 2018, 02:40:46 PM »
FT Galway 1-19 Antrim 1-16.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: January 28, 2018, 02:27:57 PM »
Galway score 5 in a row to lead by 2.  Last 5 mins.

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