Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

[Mario]

A second consecutive reality check for us. Not realistic contenders, especially with the current management.
Two stamping incidents this year with a Derry team coached by Gavin Devlin. Coincidence?
Harte's success with Louth vastly overstated; Baker took Antrim from div 4 to div 2 and to an ulster final. Would any Derryman want him at the helm?

It's not current management, it was the injury list and playing 3/4 game with 14 men. Complete half back line gone, Loughlin, and McKindless off, couple of men ill during the week, and McGuigan's shot goes in with 7 to go it's a level game. That's to be applauded. Full compliment and we're absolutely contenders.

Tyrone men have so little to chat about these days a Derry loss is their victory! 

You better believe it! This team was going to win Sam! Time to show its not all big talk!

There is nowhere ... anywhere that anybody from Derry said we were gonna win Sam!!

Really? Was hype everywhere.. won the league and it totally took off
https://www.gaa.ie/article/mcgrogan-hopes-humble-derry-are-ready-to-bounce-back

Is there any chance the hype that built rapidly after their League success played a part in their provincial exit?

"Well, you'd be daft to say you don't hear the hype," says Derry defender Padraig McGrogan.

It's been a 5 year journey and they've continually improved every year culminating in back to back Ulsters and last year's semi final performance. The hype wasn't just from the league victory. This is their first dip but they can still recover from it.

[Truthsayer]

A second consecutive reality check for us. Not realistic contenders, especially with the current management.
Two stamping incidents this year with a Derry team coached by Gavin Devlin. Coincidence?
Harte's success with Louth vastly overstated; Baker took Antrim from div 4 to div 2 and to an ulster final. Would any Derryman want him at the helm?

It's not current management, it was the injury list and playing 3/4 game with 14 men. Complete half back line gone, Loughlin, and McKindless off, couple of men ill during the week, and McGuigan's shot goes in with 7 to go it's a level game. That's to be applauded. Full compliment and we're absolutely contenders.

Tyrone men have so little to chat about these days a Derry loss is their victory! 

You better believe it! This team was going to win Sam! Time to show its not all big talk!

There is nowhere ... anywhere that anybody from Derry said we were gonna win Sam!!

Really? Was hype everywhere.. won the league and it totally took off
https://www.gaa.ie/article/mcgrogan-hopes-humble-derry-are-ready-to-bounce-back

Is there any chance the hype that built rapidly after their League success played a part in their provincial exit?

"Well, you'd be daft to say you don't hear the hype," says Derry defender Padraig McGrogan.

It's been a 5 year journey and they've continually improved every year culminating in back to back Ulsters and last year's semi final performance. The hype wasn't just from the league victory. This is their first dip but they can still recover from it.

Second dip... #Jimmy

[Manning18]

Thought Hartes comments after the game were a disgrace. Said he didn't see mckinless incident , but then proceeded to accuse Comer of making a meal of it and theatrics.
It was as  blatant a red card as seen at a game & it more or less ended Comers involvement in the game. McKinless deserves a lengthy ban for it

Comer 100% made a meal of the initial free obviously not of the stamp.

I didn't see the stamp at first and I'm sure Harte hadn't seen footage by the time he was interviewed either!

Are you serious? It took him out of the game. He hobbled around for 10 mins, took a painkilling injection at half time and went off because he couldn't move soon after. It might've derailed his season

Scandalous comments from Harte really

Too many people are taking the red card as if it's an isolated result. "changed the game", or "Derry performed well with 14"

It took Galway's best player out of the game. If you offered Joyce the option of keeping Comer fit and in the game and leaving Derry with 15 players I'm fairly sure he'd have taken it

[lenny]

Not the first time a Derry player has done this. I recall that Rodgers stamped on someone recently too, no call for it. Trampish stuff.

True, the discipline has slipped badly this year under the tyrone management. Mckinless let his team down today, very disappointing. Genuinely hope Comer recovers from the ankle injury and it doesn't impact on his involvement for the rest of the season.

[marty34]

Silly, but not unexpected behaviour from Mc Kinless.  Let his team mates down badly. Derry needed to start the game well and stay in the game but in reality, the game was over with the deserved red card.

Previous to that, Derry's shooting was brutal. How many did they kick into the keeper's hands? It's shocking at that level. Do they not do shooting at training? - doesn't look like it from today's show.

No Derry goals today and never really created any good chances. Derry scored goals for fun during league. That threat seems, for whatever reason, to be gone currently. 

Since the league final, Derry's momentum has tailed away significantly. After the long break, I'd expect them to be bursting the doors down to rectify the Donegal performance but I'd be really disappointed.  They looked very average and disjointed.

Obviously a few players were injured but lack of championship experience on the bench was telling. The panel must be very light. 

Why were so many let go and why were U20's brought in?

[Wildweasel74]

When's the last time, a team 14 men actually won a game? Derry have has issue from 2 weeks before the Donegal game, then injuries, and men leaving make it worse. On that game I be worried Armagh turn them over fairly easy.

[AustinPowers]

Thought Hartes comments after the game were a disgrace. Said he didn't see mckinless incident , but then proceeded to accuse Comer of making a meal of it and theatrics.
It was as  blatant a red card as seen at a game & it more or less ended Comers involvement in the game. McKinless deserves a lengthy ban for it

Didn't Gavin  Devlin get 3 months for similar  back in the day?

[RedHand88]

Not the first time a Derry player has done this. I recall that Rodgers stamped on someone recently too, no call for it. Trampish stuff.

True, the discipline has slipped badly this year under the tyrone management. Mckinless let his team down today, very disappointing. Genuinely hope Comer recovers from the ankle injury and it doesn't impact on his involvement for the rest of the season.

"The Tyrone management"!!

Boys a dear they really are turning on them up there.

[screenexile]

Silly, but not unexpected behaviour from Mc Kinless.  Let his team mates down badly. Derry needed to start the game well and stay in the game but in reality, the game was over with the deserved red card.

Previous to that, Derry's shooting was brutal. How many did they kick into the keeper's hands? It's shocking at that level. Do they not do shooting at training? - doesn't look like it from today's show.

No Derry goals today and never really created any good chances. Derry scored goals for fun during league. That threat seems, for whatever reason, to be gone currently. 

Since the league final, Derry's momentum has tailed away significantly. After the long break, I'd expect them to be bursting the doors down to rectify the Donegal performance but I'd be really disappointed.  They looked very average and disjointed.

Obviously a few players were injured but lack of championship experience on the bench was telling. The panel must be very light. 

Why were so many let go and why were U20's brought in?

A few lads wanted to play football so went back to their clubs and you can't really blame them!