The Big Bailout of the Eurozone (Another crisis coming? - Seriously)

[Hardy]

I'd say Paul Williams does fancy himself as Woodward or Bernstein or, more likely, the two of them combined. Combined with Eliot Ness, probably.

Seriously, though, if the guards have more tapes, it mightn't be long before Paul has them.

[Jim_Murphy_74]

I'd say Paul Williams does fancy himself as Woodward or Bernstein or, more likely, the two of them combined. Combined with Eliot Ness, probably.

Seriously, though, if the guards have more tapes, it mightn't be long before Paul has them.

It's also a tad more upmarket than giving fancy nicknames to various Dublin scumbags for the Sunday World.

He gives the Indo a good link into a lot of cops too.

If he gets someone in the fraud squad to release other tapes (if they even exist) then there will be some hoohaa altogether.

/Jim.

[muppet]

If it were Clare Daly or Ming Flanagan people would be complaining about the leaks.

That said there seems to be an awful lot of leaking from the boys in blue.

[Rossfan]

"Independent" Newspapers have been their ( boys in blue) Spin machine for a while now 

[omagh_gael]

Out of curiosity who were the protagonists in FF and the business/banking world who were involved in developing the policies that led to the Celtic tiger and its subsequent collapse?

[muppet]

Out of curiosity who were the protagonists in FF and the business/banking world who were involved in developing the policies that led to the Celtic tiger and its subsequent collapse?

Never forget the PDs role in this.
The Galway races tent probably played a big role.
The media cheerleaders, not least the Indo/Sindo.
Bertie and Social Partnership, which in other countries would be a good idea, but not here. It simply turned into Qango jobs for the boys.
The 'One man show' portrayed so heroically in the media, Sean Fitzpatrick, Michael Fingleton, Sean Quinn, Bertie etc. It always ends in disaster (as those calling for Michael O'Leary to be made Taoiseach need to bear in mind).
Parish Pump politicians - the list is endless.
Corrupt representatives - Ray Burke, George Redmond etc.

[Dinny Breen]

Out of curiosity who were the protagonists in FF and the business/banking world who were involved in developing the policies that led to the Celtic tiger and its subsequent collapse?

Never forget the PDs role in this.
The Galway races tent probably played a big role.
The media cheerleaders, not least the Indo/Sindo.
Bertie and Social Partnership, which in other countries would be a good idea, but not here. It simply turned into Qango jobs for the boys.
The 'One man show' portrayed so heroically in the media, Sean Fitzpatrick, Michael Fingleton, Sean Quinn, Bertie etc. It always ends in disaster (as those calling for Michael O'Leary to be made Taoiseach need to bear in mind).
Parish Pump politicians - the list is endless.
Corrupt representatives - Ray Burke, George Redmond etc.

I suppose Joe Public is innocent in all this...

[muppet]

Out of curiosity who were the protagonists in FF and the business/banking world who were involved in developing the policies that led to the Celtic tiger and its subsequent collapse?

Never forget the PDs role in this.
The Galway races tent probably played a big role.
The media cheerleaders, not least the Indo/Sindo.
Bertie and Social Partnership, which in other countries would be a good idea, but not here. It simply turned into Qango jobs for the boys.
The 'One man show' portrayed so heroically in the media, Sean Fitzpatrick, Michael Fingleton, Sean Quinn, Bertie etc. It always ends in disaster (as those calling for Michael O'Leary to be made Taoiseach need to bear in mind).
Parish Pump politicians - the list is endless.
Corrupt representatives - Ray Burke, George Redmond etc.

I suppose Joe Public is innocent in all this...

On the contrary, he has been the only one found guilty and sentenced.

5 years hard austerity and counting.

[AZOffaly]

Was just going to add that Dinny. Joseph P. Public and also Opposition TDs calling on the governments to be ever more generous. Let's face it, every one of us probably had some part to play in this.

Them tapes are hard to listen to though. A slap on the gob for the arrogant pricks would be fierce satisfying altogether.

[Declan]

Let's face it, every one of us probably had some part to play in this.

Can I respectfully suggest that as someone who never voted for any of those spoofers, chancers and crooks that I be absolved from the "We all partied line" so favoured by politicos who have sailed off into the sunset with their gold plated pensions.

The good old Meeja have a huge role to play in this as well. Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny

[AZOffaly]

Everyone is maybe an exageration, but loads of people went balubas in the boom. People who just couldn't afford it over extended themselves because everyone from the media down was saying Consume, Consume, Consume!!!

[Main Street]

I suppose if the State removes the speed limits on the roads you can blame those car drivers for speeding and the resultant carnage.

Sure the ideology of greed permeated down through the strata of society.
The average citizen has had to take responsibility for whatever actions they took, many have had to take responsibility for the exorbitant mortgage for living accommodation.
On top of that, they have also had to take responsibility for the losses incurred elsewhere outside the sphere of their responsibility.
I píss upon the cries of 'everyones to blame', because they neglect to mention  that those who have taken on the burden of responsibility arising from their own actions have also taken on the majority of the burden of accumulated debt caused by this madness.

[armaghniac]

Everyone is maybe an exageration, but loads of people went balubas in the boom. People who just couldn't afford it over extended themselves because everyone from the media down was saying Consume, Consume, Consume!!!

Lots of people also splashed out in the boom although others suggested they that they shouldn't. Everyone knows people who not only took out a very large mortgage, but who went on to furnish the place expensively from top to bottom entirely on credit, spurning the offer of a bed or wardrobe from a relative and helped themselves to a new car on credit as well.

[seafoid]

Out of curiosity who were the protagonists in FF and the business/banking world who were involved in developing the policies that led to the Celtic tiger and its subsequent collapse?

Never forget the PDs role in this.
The Galway races tent probably played a big role.
The media cheerleaders, not least the Indo/Sindo.
Bertie and Social Partnership, which in other countries would be a good idea, but not here. It simply turned into Qango jobs for the boys.
The 'One man show' portrayed so heroically in the media, Sean Fitzpatrick, Michael Fingleton, Sean Quinn, Bertie etc. It always ends in disaster (as those calling for Michael O'Leary to be made Taoiseach need to bear in mind).
Parish Pump politicians - the list is endless.
Corrupt representatives - Ray Burke, George Redmond etc.

And far too much easy credit with no responsible adults around

http://www.forbes.com/sites/karlwhelan/2013/06/28/the-anglo-tapes-the-guarantee-and-irelands-economic-crisis/

But it is very hard to stop a boom once it gets going.

[muppet]

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