Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment RTE 2

[BennyCake]

So many slagging off rugby and is most likely they were glued to the TV watching those big games...

Mainly Liverpool, Man United and Celtic fans slag off Rugby, i think its a brilliant sport.

Anything less than absolute victory in a sporting event should not even be considered!

Carruth, McGuigan and O'Sullivan are three examples, I would add Roche but that may or may not be tainted.

O'Sullivans run against the doped up Chinese was absolutely brilliant, to keep going knowing you were being fucked with every stride showed tremendous character and class.

Carruths Gold was incredibly unexpected and McGuigans victory over pedroza was brilliant, if only for a moment.

2002 AIF final was our nations finest moment in my opinion, with Sonia second and Carruth third.

I think rugby is a very good sport though I prefer League.
Fully agree with your last sentence

As do I (the first bit of it).

How was Killkenny beating Clare in the 2002 All Ireland Final Ireland's greatest sporting moment?

Where's the 'H' in 'AIF final'?

[Il Bomber Destro]

The Grand Slam was easily the sporting moment of the 00s. Not even close.

Grand slam? Beating 5 other teams in a non-world event?? Get a grip. Harrington was the correct choice.f**king egg chasers is right. They beat 3/4 of a New Zealand team last year in a FRIENDLY and the country was in meltdown. They get far too much hype whereas Harrington didn't get enough

In Euro 88, Holland had five games in a non-world event, didn't even win them all and still were champions. Still, I'm sure they had a better sporting achievement that year too.

But football is a global sport, it survives by itself due to its global appeal.

Scoring a last minute equaliser against one of football's superpowers in the dying minutes of a group game at a World Cup may seem trivial but when you view it in its context it's a whole lot more than winning an annual 6 team tournament in a sport where only about 8 countries take semi-seriously.

If truth be told the Irish team are one massive set of over-hyped, under achieving fun boys. They've never been past the last 8 in the World Cup in a sport only 8 teams take seriously. They're the only one of the 8 sides that take it seriously that have never been in the last 4 of a World Cup.

It's popularity in this country is more to do with its social outing culture and the increased chance of success given the small competition pool, there's a disproportionate amount of women at rugby matches compared to other sports. Most lads who attend rugby matches these days have never played an organised game of rugby in their life, that's an odd association with the game.

Im curious. Who are the 8 teams that take it seriously?

South Africa
New Zealand
Australia
France
Ireland
Wales
Scotland
England

Only New Zealand have it as their main sport.

and whats the criteria for taking it seriously?

What about Tonga, Samoa, Fiji?
Why not Argentina or Italy?
Whats the main sport in Aus/SA?

Football is the main sport in South Africa. Rugby League, AFL and cricket are more popular in the Aus.

[Rossfan]

So many slagging off rugby and is most likely they were glued to the TV watching those big games...

For the record I wasn't and haven't watched rubby on TV since I was about 8.

too busy watching Man U?

Don't watch soccery stuff either.
Why does that great Gael Bomber keep calling soccer "football".

[tonto1888]

The Grand Slam was easily the sporting moment of the 00s. Not even close.

Grand slam? Beating 5 other teams in a non-world event?? Get a grip. Harrington was the correct choice.f**king egg chasers is right. They beat 3/4 of a New Zealand team last year in a FRIENDLY and the country was in meltdown. They get far too much hype whereas Harrington didn't get enough

In Euro 88, Holland had five games in a non-world event, didn't even win them all and still were champions. Still, I'm sure they had a better sporting achievement that year too.

But football is a global sport, it survives by itself due to its global appeal.

Scoring a last minute equaliser against one of football's superpowers in the dying minutes of a group game at a World Cup may seem trivial but when you view it in its context it's a whole lot more than winning an annual 6 team tournament in a sport where only about 8 countries take semi-seriously.

If truth be told the Irish team are one massive set of over-hyped, under achieving fun boys. They've never been past the last 8 in the World Cup in a sport only 8 teams take seriously. They're the only one of the 8 sides that take it seriously that have never been in the last 4 of a World Cup.

It's popularity in this country is more to do with its social outing culture and the increased chance of success given the small competition pool, there's a disproportionate amount of women at rugby matches compared to other sports. Most lads who attend rugby matches these days have never played an organised game of rugby in their life, that's an odd association with the game.

Im curious. Who are the 8 teams that take it seriously?

South Africa
New Zealand
Australia
France
Ireland
Wales
Scotland
England

Only New Zealand have it as their main sport.

and whats the criteria for taking it seriously?

What about Tonga, Samoa, Fiji?
Why not Argentina or Italy?
Whats the main sport in Aus/SA?

Football is the main sport in South Africa. Rugby League, AFL and cricket are more popular in the US.

Id be surprised at football being the main sport in SA. Certainly didn't seem that way when I was there though that was a good many years ago and before the 2010 world cup.

Now, what about Fiji/Samoa/Tonga?
And how do Argentina and Italy not take rugby seriously

[Il Bomber Destro]

So many slagging off rugby and is most likely they were glued to the TV watching those big games...

Mainly Liverpool, Man United and Celtic fans slag off Rugby, i think its a brilliant sport.

Anything less than absolute victory in a sporting event should not even be considered!

Carruth, McGuigan and O'Sullivan are three examples, I would add Roche but that may or may not be tainted.

O'Sullivans run against the doped up Chinese was absolutely brilliant, to keep going knowing you were being fucked with every stride showed tremendous character and class.

Carruths Gold was incredibly unexpected and McGuigans victory over pedroza was brilliant, if only for a moment.

2002 AIF final was our nations finest moment in my opinion, with Sonia second and Carruth third.

I would say sports fans dislike Rugby while weightlifting fans   and strong man fans might enjoy it.

It's about dealing things in relative terms, do you think Mayo fans deem FBD trophies as greater achievements than making All Ireland finals?

The Irish Rugby team are mediocre at a niche sport.

[Il Bomber Destro]

The Grand Slam was easily the sporting moment of the 00s. Not even close.

Grand slam? Beating 5 other teams in a non-world event?? Get a grip. Harrington was the correct choice.f**king egg chasers is right. They beat 3/4 of a New Zealand team last year in a FRIENDLY and the country was in meltdown. They get far too much hype whereas Harrington didn't get enough

In Euro 88, Holland had five games in a non-world event, didn't even win them all and still were champions. Still, I'm sure they had a better sporting achievement that year too.

But football is a global sport, it survives by itself due to its global appeal.

Scoring a last minute equaliser against one of football's superpowers in the dying minutes of a group game at a World Cup may seem trivial but when you view it in its context it's a whole lot more than winning an annual 6 team tournament in a sport where only about 8 countries take semi-seriously.

If truth be told the Irish team are one massive set of over-hyped, under achieving fun boys. They've never been past the last 8 in the World Cup in a sport only 8 teams take seriously. They're the only one of the 8 sides that take it seriously that have never been in the last 4 of a World Cup.

It's popularity in this country is more to do with its social outing culture and the increased chance of success given the small competition pool, there's a disproportionate amount of women at rugby matches compared to other sports. Most lads who attend rugby matches these days have never played an organised game of rugby in their life, that's an odd association with the game.

Im curious. Who are the 8 teams that take it seriously?

South Africa
New Zealand
Australia
France
Ireland
Wales
Scotland
England

Only New Zealand have it as their main sport.

and whats the criteria for taking it seriously?

What about Tonga, Samoa, Fiji?
Why not Argentina or Italy?
Whats the main sport in Aus/SA?

Football is the main sport in South Africa. Rugby League, AFL and cricket are more popular in the US.

Id be surprised at football being the main sport in SA. Certainly didn't seem that way when I was there though that was a good many years ago and before the 2010 world cup.

Now, what about Fiji/Samoa/Tonga?
And how do Argentina and Italy not take rugby seriously

Well be surprised, football is by far and away the biggest sport in South Africa.

Argentina and Italy don't take Rugby seriously as there is little appeal in the game.

There are more pro soccer players in the USA than there are pro rugby players in the world.

Did you play rugby yourself?

[Dinny Breen]

For the record Italia 90 is a great moment but as an achievement it sucked, we didn't win one game.

Or you could say ROI reached the Quarter final without losing a game eventually going down to the hosts by the narrowest of margins. To reach the last in 8 in your first ever World cup will considered by most as fine achievement.

Reframe it how you want but considering winning is the only barometer of success, by the majority on this board, so not winning any of 5 games is quite frankly shit and should not be celebrated as success.

[Captain Obvious]

So many slagging off rugby and is most likely they were glued to the TV watching those big games...

For the record I wasn't and haven't watched rubby on TV since I was about 8.

too busy watching Man U?

Don't watch soccery stuff either.
Why does that great Gael Bomber keep calling soccer "football".

Its called Association football. The Americas named it soccer as they already have their own handegg football.

[Il Bomber Destro]

For the record Italia 90 is a great moment but as an achievement it sucked, we didn't win one game.

Or you could say ROI reached the Quarter final without losing a game eventually going down to the hosts by the narrowest of margins. To reach the last in 8 in your first ever World cup will considered by most as fine achievement.

Reframe it how you want but considering winning is the only barometer of success, by the majority on this board, so not winning any of 5 games is quite frankly shit and should not be celebrated as success.

Laughable. View things in context.

Winning in a shit sport with virtually no competition is nowhere near as big as achievement as competing at a good level in a high competition field.

Is O'Byrne Cup success a bigger achievement than the 98 AI final appearance for Kildare?

[Cunny Funt]

For the record Italia 90 is a great moment but as an achievement it sucked, we didn't win one game.

Or you could say ROI reached the Quarter final without losing a game eventually going down to the hosts by the narrowest of margins. To reach the last in 8 in your first ever World cup will considered by most as fine achievement.

Reframe it how you want but considering winning is the only barometer of success, by the majority on this board, so not winning any of 5 games is quite frankly shit and should not be celebrated as success.

You can win the world cup without winning a game and how long before ROI are seen in another World cup Quarter final? Quite frankly shit to me and i'm sure many others would be Euro 2012 when Ireland were well beaten in each group game.

[Dinny Breen]

For the record Italia 90 is a great moment but as an achievement it sucked, we didn't win one game.

Or you could say ROI reached the Quarter final without losing a game eventually going down to the hosts by the narrowest of margins. To reach the last in 8 in your first ever World cup will considered by most as fine achievement.

Reframe it how you want but considering winning is the only barometer of success, by the majority on this board, so not winning any of 5 games is quite frankly shit and should not be celebrated as success.

Laughable. View things in context.

Winning in a shit sport with virtually no competition is nowhere near as big as achievement as competing at a good level in a high competition field.

Is O'Byrne Cup success a bigger achievement than the 98 AI final appearance for Kildare?

Interational soccer is shit, it's always been a standard below the top club levels in the major European leagues. Don't kid yourself that the World Cup is a high competition field, it's actually even a standard below the European Championships. Some amount reaching on this thread.

[Il Bomber Destro]

For the record Italia 90 is a great moment but as an achievement it sucked, we didn't win one game.

Or you could say ROI reached the Quarter final without losing a game eventually going down to the hosts by the narrowest of margins. To reach the last in 8 in your first ever World cup will considered by most as fine achievement.

Reframe it how you want but considering winning is the only barometer of success, by the majority on this board, so not winning any of 5 games is quite frankly shit and should not be celebrated as success.

Laughable. View things in context.

Winning in a shit sport with virtually no competition is nowhere near as big as achievement as competing at a good level in a high competition field.

Is O'Byrne Cup success a bigger achievement than the 98 AI final appearance for Kildare?

Interational soccer is shit, it's always been a standard below the top club levels in the major European leagues. Don't kid yourself that the World Cup is a high competition field, it's actually even a standard below the European Championships. Some amount reaching on this thread.

International football is the be all and end all of football. Club football does not compare and never will. You speak like a lad who got wrapped up in the egg chasing bubble during the Celtic Tiger era.

[Dinny Breen]

For the record Italia 90 is a great moment but as an achievement it sucked, we didn't win one game.

Or you could say ROI reached the Quarter final without losing a game eventually going down to the hosts by the narrowest of margins. To reach the last in 8 in your first ever World cup will considered by most as fine achievement.

Reframe it how you want but considering winning is the only barometer of success, by the majority on this board, so not winning any of 5 games is quite frankly shit and should not be celebrated as success.

Laughable. View things in context.

Winning in a shit sport with virtually no competition is nowhere near as big as achievement as competing at a good level in a high competition field.

Is O'Byrne Cup success a bigger achievement than the 98 AI final appearance for Kildare?

Interational soccer is shit, it's always been a standard below the top club levels in the major European leagues. Don't kid yourself that the World Cup is a high competition field, it's actually even a standard below the European Championships. Some amount reaching on this thread.

International football is the be all and end all of football. Club football does not compare and never will. You speak like a lad who got wrapped up in the egg chasing bubble during the Celtic Tiger era.

Nope just a sports fan with a keen eye for high level competitive sport and international soccer ain't the highest level. What it is pretty good at is plugging into national identity and creates a sense of unity and that to most is more important than the quality or level of the game, that's why it's popular. Real lowest common denominator stuff to be honest. That's not a bad thing but if you really appreciate high level football, you watch the UCL that is the real pinnacle of the game.

[thewobbler]

Seeing as there hasn't been a genuine shock result in the champions league for as long as I can remember, I'm not sure it's as competitively brilliant as you're making out. There are half a dozen galactico sides but after that, the standard isn't as exceptional as you want to believe.

International football isn't as prestigious as it was 20 years ago. But 99 out of 100 players, if asked, would still name the World Cup as the one trophy they will want to win in their careers. In my mind, that's why it's the greatest competition of all. Should that attitude change then I'd make you right, but for now, no.

[tonto1888]

The Grand Slam was easily the sporting moment of the 00s. Not even close.

Grand slam? Beating 5 other teams in a non-world event?? Get a grip. Harrington was the correct choice.f**king egg chasers is right. They beat 3/4 of a New Zealand team last year in a FRIENDLY and the country was in meltdown. They get far too much hype whereas Harrington didn't get enough

In Euro 88, Holland had five games in a non-world event, didn't even win them all and still were champions. Still, I'm sure they had a better sporting achievement that year too.

But football is a global sport, it survives by itself due to its global appeal.

Scoring a last minute equaliser against one of football's superpowers in the dying minutes of a group game at a World Cup may seem trivial but when you view it in its context it's a whole lot more than winning an annual 6 team tournament in a sport where only about 8 countries take semi-seriously.

If truth be told the Irish team are one massive set of over-hyped, under achieving fun boys. They've never been past the last 8 in the World Cup in a sport only 8 teams take seriously. They're the only one of the 8 sides that take it seriously that have never been in the last 4 of a World Cup.

It's popularity in this country is more to do with its social outing culture and the increased chance of success given the small competition pool, there's a disproportionate amount of women at rugby matches compared to other sports. Most lads who attend rugby matches these days have never played an organised game of rugby in their life, that's an odd association with the game.

Im curious. Who are the 8 teams that take it seriously?

South Africa
New Zealand
Australia
France
Ireland
Wales
Scotland
England

Only New Zealand have it as their main sport.

and whats the criteria for taking it seriously?

What about Tonga, Samoa, Fiji?
Why not Argentina or Italy?
Whats the main sport in Aus/SA?

Football is the main sport in South Africa. Rugby League, AFL and cricket are more popular in the US.

Id be surprised at football being the main sport in SA. Certainly didn't seem that way when I was there though that was a good many years ago and before the 2010 world cup.

Now, what about Fiji/Samoa/Tonga?
And how do Argentina and Italy not take rugby seriously

Well be surprised, football is by far and away the biggest sport in South Africa.

Argentina and Italy don't take Rugby seriously as there is little appeal in the game.

There are more pro soccer players in the USA than there are pro rugby players in the world.

Did you play rugby yourself?

Like I said its a number of years since I visited SA and the world cup has been held there since. They still get big crowds for rugby though, although the experiment of having a couple of teams in the league over here hasn't gone too well.
Looks to me like there is an appetite for rugby in both Argentina and Italy and you still have avoided Fiji/Samoa/Tonga where they also take rugby seriously.

I did play rugby, union and league. I prefer league to play and to watch. Not sure what that has to do with it though