Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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johnnycool

Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 11:43:36 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 07, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on February 07, 2020, 09:47:51 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 07, 2020, 08:18:20 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on February 06, 2020, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 06, 2020, 06:39:02 PM
Sinn Fein electoral van playing the wolf tones in co Cavan is actual headline news on BBC news line.

Shock horror. I'm sure Nolan will be "all over" this in the morning. W***er

Hopefully people need to know that they haven't changed their spots. I dont know who would vote for the wife of an IRA garda killer who supports the IRA. Sadly in the world we live in many will.

Jesus the absolute state of this. Now married women are tied to the beliefs of their husband. Away and have a word with yourself you absolute Neanderthal. Sad this is the world we live in.

The animal murdered a serving member of the defense forces of our country and she didn't have much of a problem with it.  He even tried to kill her, sure lovely couple.

That would suggest to me that a vote for her is most certainly not a vote for him...

That's the understatement of the year! ;D

Its a vote for the IRA which doesn't sit well with a lot in the free state.

Which IRA would that be then?

Old IRA = Good
New IRA  = Bad

smelmoth

2 warnings to anyone thinking of voting SF.

Firstly the current debate on history has important impacts on Law and Order and fairness. We all know the names involved in the Quinn murder and the connections to SF. SF will not and some would argue cannot come out and clearly state that the murder was wrong, the murderers are (by the method of murder) dangerous and all parties with knowledge that can lead to a conviction of the murderers need to share that with the police. Furthermore that they have issued that as a dictact to anyone wishing to retain party membership. The SF statement would need to cover all of this. SF's inability to make such a statement renders them unfit to handle matters pertaining to Law and Order. Their inability to do the right thing (on a matter as important as this) when it potentially means harming one of their own means they cannot be trusted to use public office fairly.

Secondly there is a wider issue of competence. In NI we have the misfortune of having to maintain a pretence of being governed by elected officials. We are not. We are governed by highly paid party lackeys in the hope that they are more competent than those sent out to get elected. SF are far from alone in that. Governing NI is a relatively small affair relative to running RoI. I'm really not sure that I have seen evidence of any higher level of competence in RoI. Who from the SF roster is going to run a government department or represent the country internationally??

The mind boggles

Itchy

Quote from: five points on February 07, 2020, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
Pauline is 1/3 to get elected, delighted to see it. Its only a pity some of the useless goons we have had for decades from FG and FF that delivered absolutely ZERO for Cavan in their time couldnt all be dumped out too but I suppose all in good time. Do you know for example Cavan has been pretty much ignored by the IDA because supposedly the main centres we should have been commuting to are Dundalk and Sligo. Anyone who knows the region that would try and make either of those journeys over and back in a day will know how preposterous that is. Cavan19 is likely a member of Young FF or FG and has signed up here to do his patriotic duty (like RTE and the Indo) to make sure you all know the terrible truth about Sinn Fein.

We in Cavan had our chance at the 2007 election when at the same time the plans for the M3 motorway were being finalised. What did we do? We elected 4 out of 5 Monaghan TDs with Caoimhghin O'Caolain getting as much support from Cavan as he did in his own county. And what happened? The new road stopped at the Cavan border. 9 years after it opened, the rest of the N3 is a dangerous, congested mess.

We had the chance to vote for the mighty lads that did nothing for the county for decades in 2007, I mean we should have known that their past form of doing absolutely zero for the county was about to change just after 2007 and then what did we do, feck it all up by not voting for them.

Itchy

Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 07, 2020, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
Pauline is 1/3 to get elected, delighted to see it. Its only a pity some of the useless goons we have had for decades from FG and FF that delivered absolutely ZERO for Cavan in their time couldnt all be dumped out too but I suppose all in good time. Do you know for example Cavan has been pretty much ignored by the IDA because supposedly the main centres we should have been commuting to are Dundalk and Sligo. Anyone who knows the region that would try and make either of those journeys over and back in a day will know how preposterous that is. Cavan19 is likely a member of Young FF or FG and has signed up here to do his patriotic duty (like RTE and the Indo) to make sure you all know the terrible truth about Sinn Fein.
As opposed to yourself shilling on here for SF for some time now.

Going by the language that he uses on here when he isn't hearing what he wants to hear i'd say he could have learned it in school from Pauline.

Unlike yourself I'd say I am the same age as Pauline so no she didnt teach me. But you have slurred her due to who she married and now you are slurring her ability as a teacher. Of course this now shows your true purpose of being on here.

Itchy

Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 07, 2020, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
Pauline is 1/3 to get elected, delighted to see it. Its only a pity some of the useless goons we have had for decades from FG and FF that delivered absolutely ZERO for Cavan in their time couldnt all be dumped out too but I suppose all in good time. Do you know for example Cavan has been pretty much ignored by the IDA because supposedly the main centres we should have been commuting to are Dundalk and Sligo. Anyone who knows the region that would try and make either of those journeys over and back in a day will know how preposterous that is. Cavan19 is likely a member of Young FF or FG and has signed up here to do his patriotic duty (like RTE and the Indo) to make sure you all know the terrible truth about Sinn Fein.
As opposed to yourself shilling on here for SF for some time now.

I have never sought to hide who I will be voting for on Saturday and why, how about you lad. You too embarrassed to tell us you will be voting for? Marc McSharry or Eamonn Scanlon or god help us John Perry the renegade?

weareros

Quote from: Angelo on February 07, 2020, 09:46:56 AM


I just like to remind establishment shills like yourself that your outrage is merely histrionics. The free state has plenty of blood on its hands, it watched on as innocent nationalists were burned from their homes, beaten on the streets and murdered and it did nothing.

Nationalists in the north had to do something as they were let down by both the British establishment and the Free State.

It's true the Southern state for the most part abandoned Northern Nationalists, but it also has to be said since the Anglo-Irish agreement, Irish governments have been actively involved and got a say in matters for the first time after that agreement (which incidently both Unionists and SF hated at the time). The last government, particular Simon Coveney, has been very active and the type of all-island economic institutions around tourism, energy, agriculture - and now a customs in the Irish sea have brought unification closer than violence ever has. I do think since the Good Friday Agreement, all parties have to leave the past in the past and move on with reconciliation and I would disagree with Irish media digging up every old atrocity, as reconciliation can never happen with that attitude. However, it's fair game to ask questions of Sinn Fein on current policies such as their lack of support for the SCC, and indeed their Nigel Faragesque attitude to the EU, which to many people has played a huge role in Ireland's growth and move to modernity. However, what I think will happen after this election is SF will support the SCC - and either FF or FG will claim great progress has been made and like that you will have a new coalition government.


Cavan19

Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 07, 2020, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
Pauline is 1/3 to get elected, delighted to see it. Its only a pity some of the useless goons we have had for decades from FG and FF that delivered absolutely ZERO for Cavan in their time couldnt all be dumped out too but I suppose all in good time. Do you know for example Cavan has been pretty much ignored by the IDA because supposedly the main centres we should have been commuting to are Dundalk and Sligo. Anyone who knows the region that would try and make either of those journeys over and back in a day will know how preposterous that is. Cavan19 is likely a member of Young FF or FG and has signed up here to do his patriotic duty (like RTE and the Indo) to make sure you all know the terrible truth about Sinn Fein.
As opposed to yourself shilling on here for SF for some time now.

Going by the language that he uses on here when he isn't hearing what he wants to hear i'd say he could have learned it in school from Pauline.

Unlike yourself I'd say I am the same age as Pauline so no she didnt teach me. But you have slurred her due to who she married and now you are slurring her ability as a teacher. Of course this now shows your true purpose of being on here.

At least you are a wee bit calmer today and not using bad language.

I  have a problem with someone running in the election who stands by murdering scum. 


Snapchap

Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 11:51:46 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 07, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 11:43:36 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 07, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on February 07, 2020, 09:47:51 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 07, 2020, 08:18:20 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on February 06, 2020, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 06, 2020, 06:39:02 PM
Sinn Fein electoral van playing the wolf tones in co Cavan is actual headline news on BBC news line.

Shock horror. I'm sure Nolan will be "all over" this in the morning. W***er

Hopefully people need to know that they haven't changed their spots. I dont know who would vote for the wife of an IRA garda killer who supports the IRA. Sadly in the world we live in many will.

Jesus the absolute state of this. Now married women are tied to the beliefs of their husband. Away and have a word with yourself you absolute Neanderthal. Sad this is the world we live in.

The animal murdered a serving member of the defense forces of our country and she didn't have much of a problem with it.  He even tried to kill her, sure lovely couple.

That would suggest to me that a vote for her is most certainly not a vote for him...

That's the understatement of the year! ;D

Its a vote for the IRA which doesn't sit well with a lot in the free state.

Because of the murder they committed or because of the guilt of turning their back on nationalists in the North who were treated as second class citizens?

I have actually have had near enough of "Nationalists in the North" the amount of whining they do is unreal.  If the Island was every united it would take some amount of counselling to get the chips of both their shoulders.

What a obnoxiously horrible little free stater you are.

Snapchap

Quote from: Rossfan on February 07, 2020, 12:51:16 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 07, 2020, 11:28:24 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 07, 2020, 11:08:04 AM
Frank Hand, Gda Clerkin, Gary Sheehan, Patrick Kelly, Seamus Quaid, Jerry McCabe...

Victim bingo? There must be an election happening.
So you're happy that those people were murdered by the Provos?
What ever happened to Army Order no.8?
Can you quote where I said I was happy? I thought I was just making a comment on the shameless, cynical, opportunistic, hypocritical use and abuse of victims at election time by the usual sources.

GJL

Quote from: Snapchap on February 07, 2020, 01:56:07 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 11:51:46 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 07, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 11:43:36 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 07, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on February 07, 2020, 09:47:51 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 07, 2020, 08:18:20 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on February 06, 2020, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 06, 2020, 06:39:02 PM
Sinn Fein electoral van playing the wolf tones in co Cavan is actual headline news on BBC news line.

Shock horror. I'm sure Nolan will be "all over" this in the morning. W***er

Hopefully people need to know that they haven't changed their spots. I dont know who would vote for the wife of an IRA garda killer who supports the IRA. Sadly in the world we live in many will.

Jesus the absolute state of this. Now married women are tied to the beliefs of their husband. Away and have a word with yourself you absolute Neanderthal. Sad this is the world we live in.

The animal murdered a serving member of the defense forces of our country and she didn't have much of a problem with it.  He even tried to kill her, sure lovely couple.

That would suggest to me that a vote for her is most certainly not a vote for him...

That's the understatement of the year! ;D

Its a vote for the IRA which doesn't sit well with a lot in the free state.

Because of the murder they committed or because of the guilt of turning their back on nationalists in the North who were treated as second class citizens?

I have actually have had near enough of "Nationalists in the North" the amount of whining they do is unreal.  If the Island was every united it would take some amount of counselling to get the chips of both their shoulders.

What a obnoxiously horrible little free stater you are.

He really is clueless. I would guess a post troubles baby. No idea what went on up here and what measures were absolutely required to attain some degree of equality.

Cavan19

Have you the chip on one or two shoulders?

Owenmoresider

Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 01:45:37 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 07, 2020, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
Pauline is 1/3 to get elected, delighted to see it. Its only a pity some of the useless goons we have had for decades from FG and FF that delivered absolutely ZERO for Cavan in their time couldnt all be dumped out too but I suppose all in good time. Do you know for example Cavan has been pretty much ignored by the IDA because supposedly the main centres we should have been commuting to are Dundalk and Sligo. Anyone who knows the region that would try and make either of those journeys over and back in a day will know how preposterous that is. Cavan19 is likely a member of Young FF or FG and has signed up here to do his patriotic duty (like RTE and the Indo) to make sure you all know the terrible truth about Sinn Fein.
As opposed to yourself shilling on here for SF for some time now.

I have never sought to hide who I will be voting for on Saturday and why, how about you lad. You too embarrassed to tell us you will be voting for? Marc McSharry or Eamonn Scanlon or god help us John Perry the renegade?
We have a local Independent from the parish that I'll give the vote to, then Scanlon and McCloskey the Aontu candidate. Won't go too far on the paper beyond that and it'll not really matter anyway.

mrdeeds

How does murdering a guard in Limerick have anything to do with the troubles? And in spite of this Pauline Tully still married him while he was doing time for said murder.

Itchy

Quote from: mrdeeds on February 07, 2020, 02:42:40 PM
How does murdering a guard in Limerick have anything to do with the troubles? And in spite of this Pauline Tully still married him while he was doing time for said murder.

You could say it doesnt, I am sure the IRA would say they were "fundraising". Not that it matters a whole lot given that Tullys husband was indeed a total sc**bag, but he did not shoot McCabe. It was a hired hand from Limerick if I recall correctly. The fact that none of them admitted it in court was why they were all found guilty. You would have to ask Pauline why she married him, it may seem a stupid thing and I am sure after what happened to her she realises that now. However, I personally draw a line at holding her accountable for what her ex husband did or didnt do.

Cavan19

I will be back in a day or 2 lads I will be busy working over the weekend in counting centre.


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