The Palestine thread

Started by give her dixie, October 17, 2012, 01:29:42 PM

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stew

The total of dead has reached 100 now, the Israelis have lost 3 people whilst 25 children living in Gaza have been killed as well as ten women.

Where the fcuk are the Governments of the world?


Bastards all.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

seafoid

Israel is such a mess


http://www.adl.org/PresRele/IslME_62/6429_62.htm


ADL Expresses Support For Targeted Military Action In Gaza


New York, NY, November 14, 2012 ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) expressed support for the targeted military action taken today by Israel to protect the civilian population in southern Israel against the renewed barrage of rocket and mortar fire from Hamas-controlled Gaza.



Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement:

Israel has shown tremendous restraint in the face of the unceasing rocket and mortar fire launched from Gaza.  This operation is directly targeting the leadership responsible for these attacks, as well as the warehouses and facilities housing their weapons.   No country in the world would stand by and tolerate such attacks on more than a million civilians.   



The international community has a clear obligation to condemn these attacks and to support the actions taken by Israel against Hamas and other terror organizations operating in Gaza as Israel carries out its basic duty to defend its civilian population.



The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

BTW no sign of BalldeBeaver today.

The embassy must have run out of verbiage.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Pangurban

The so called leaders of the Western World should hang their heads in shame, while their erstwhile leader Obama stands exposed as the biggest con-man ever to occupy the White House. Protest is futile, we can only hope for an early cease fire. and in the meantime boycott all Isreali products/ In condeming the Western leaders hypocrisy we should also note the very muted response from the rest of the world, including our own moral heroes in the Dail, while the silence from the Vatican has been deafening. We are living in a morally bankrupt world

tyssam5

Quote from: trileacman on November 19, 2012, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 19, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
Was it started this week by rocket attacks from inside Gaza?  Were there any attacks from Gaza this week before Israel took out the Hamas leader?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=356053114491489&set=a.108531529243650.16425.100002604093592&type=1&theater

No Israel kicked it off by taking out the Hamas leader and no cower behind the excuse that they are replying to rockets from Gaza, an outright lie. Obama shows his weak side by towing the "blame Gaza" side in all this, all the other foreign affairs ministers around the world are absolute f**king cowards who won't call this for what it is.

William Hague especially is a spineless cnut.

Was wondering about the order of events myself, I thought the attack on the Hamas leader preceded the rockets from Gaza, but the reporting on this issue is generally fairly bad.

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Quote from: tyssam5 on November 19, 2012, 11:46:31 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 19, 2012, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 19, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
Was it started this week by rocket attacks from inside Gaza?  Were there any attacks from Gaza this week before Israel took out the Hamas leader?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=356053114491489&set=a.108531529243650.16425.100002604093592&type=1&theater

No Israel kicked it off by taking out the Hamas leader and no cower behind the excuse that they are replying to rockets from Gaza, an outright lie. Obama shows his weak side by towing the "blame Gaza" side in all this, all the other foreign affairs ministers around the world are absolute f**king cowards who won't call this for what it is.

William Hague especially is a spineless cnut.

Was wondering about the order of events myself, I thought the attack on the Hamas leader preceded the rockets from Gaza, but the reporting on this issue is generally fairly bad.
Excuse me for not getting the names of the people. First person shot was a mentally challenged man who walked to close to the wall Israel built around Gaza. The second incident Israel killed a 13 year old playing football out side his house. While at the funeral of the thirteen year old Israel fired a missile at the mourners seriously injuring five teenagers and killing two of the little boys cousins. This is the truth how it started Israel was looking for blood. I will get the victims names for you soon. I am sick to my stomach a bout the whole thing. Also like to add that the media have blood in there hands. They have a moral duty to let people know the truth and reading some of the comments here it appears there deliberate distortion of the truth have left a lot of people none the wiser.

seafoid

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-s-96-dead-include-farmers-water-sellers-and-the-girl-next-door.premium-1.479110/gaza-s-96-dead-include-farmers-water-sellers-and-the-girl-next-door.premium-1.479110

On Sunday afternoon the IAF fired two missiles on a vehicle distributing purified water to the Beit Lahia area, killing the driver, Suhail Ashur Mohammed Hamada, 42, and his 10-year-old son.

An estimated 95 percent of the water in Gaza is not fit to drink, forcing residents to buy purified water or receive it from their municipality.

Another 10-year-old boy was killed along with his father later Sunday, while they were trying to fix a pipe on the roof of their home in Jabalya. Missile or bomb fragments often cause damage to pipes and water heaters, and residents risk their lives to go up on their roofs in an effort to fix them. At 10 P.M. Jalal Nasser, 42, and his 10-year-old son Hussein were killed by an Israeli missile.

•   Later that night, a 31-year-old man whom relatives described as mentally retarded was killed in an air strike while standing near his home in Saja'iyya.•   
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Declan

Killing Hope: Why Israel Targets Sports in Gaza
by Dave Zirin
Let's start with a fact. On November 16, the Israeli Air Force bombed the 10,000-seat Palestine Stadium "into ruins." The stadium also headquartered the center for youth sports programs throughout the Gaza Strip. This is the second time Israel has flattened the facility. The first was in 2006 and the people of Gaza have spent the last six years rebuilding the fields, stands, and offices to keep the national soccer team as well as club sports alive in the region.

I'm sure the reaction to this fact will depend on what side people take in the current conflict. For the Israeli government and their supporters, they promised "collective punishment" following the Hamas rockets fired over the border and they are delivering "collective punishment." Matan Vilnai, deputy defense minister of Israel has in the past threatened a "holocaust" and Gilad Sharon, son of former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, called for Gaza to be the new "Hiroshima." In this context, a sports facility must seem like little more than target practice.

For those attending daily demonstrations against the carnage, this news of a stadium's destruction must also be seen as an irrelevancy. After all according to The Wall Street Journal, 90 Palestinians, including 50 civilians, have been killed in Gaza. 225 children are among the more than 700 injured and these numbers are climbing. Israeli ground troops are massing at the border and President Obama can only bring himself to defend Israel without criticism. There is only so much concern for a stadium people can be expected to muster.

I think however that we should all take a moment to ask the question, "Why?" Why has the Palestinian sports infrastructure, not to mention Palestinian athletes, always been a target of the Israeli military? Why has the Palestinian domestic soccer league only completed seven seasons since its founding in 1977? Why are players commonly subjected to harassment and violence, not to mention curfews, checkpoints, and all sorts of legal restrictions on their movement? Why were national team players Ayman Alkurd, Shadi Sbakhe and Wajeh Moshate killed by the Israeli Defense Forces during the 2009 military campaign? Why did imprisoned national team player Mahmoud Sarsak require a hunger strike, the international solidarity campaign of Amnesty International, and a formal protest from both FIFA and the 50,000-player soccer union FIFpro to just to win his freedom after three years behind bars?

The answer is simple. Sports is more than loved in Gaza (and it is loved.) It's an expression of humanity for those living under occupation. It's not just soccer and it's not just the boys. Everyone plays, with handball, volleyball, and basketball joining soccer as the most popular choices. To have several thousand people gather to watch a girls sporting event is a way of life. It's a community event designed not only to cheer those on the field, but cheer those in the stands. As one Palestinian man from Gaza said to me, "[Sports] is our time to forget where we are and remember who we are."

Attacking the athletic infrastructure is about attacking the idea that joy, normalcy, or a universally recognizable humanity could ever be a part of life for a Palestinian child. This is a critical for Israel both internationally and at home. The only way the Israeli government and its allies can continue to act with such brazen disregard for civilian life is if they convince the world that their adversaries collectively are less than human. The subway ads calling Muslims "savages", the Islamophobic cartoons and videos that are held up as examples of free speech, are all part of a quilt that says some deaths are not to be mourned.

At home, attacking sports is about nothing less than killing hope. Israel's total war, underwritten by the United States, is a war not only on Hamas or military installations but on the idea that life can ever be so carefree in Gaza as to involve play. The objective instead is to hear these words of a young girl outside Al Shifa Hospital on November 18th who said, "To the world and people: Why should we be killed and why shouldn't we have a normal childhood? What did we do to face all this?"

If you play, you can dream. If you dream, you are imagining a better world.  As the great Olympian Wilma Rudolph said, "Never underestimate the power of dreams and the influence of the human spirit. The potential for greatness lives within each of us." Nothing marks the nihilism of Israel's project quite like this fact: they don't want the people of Gaza to dream. In the eyes of Benjamin Netanyahu, they are only worthy of nightmares.

Aerlik

Hmmm, interesting...

during this evening's Channel 9 News (West Aus) the newsreader read out how 12 people had been "murdered" (sic) in an attack on the house on Gaza.  This preceded the cut to the commercials.  So, I sat and waited for the story to air...not a word of it.    Not a single fekkin word of it.  Instead the usual pro-Zionist shite.  Fcuk it's maddening. 

The commercial media in this  country are a disgrace.  Only ABC and SBS have in-depth coverage for the zionist atrocities and terrorism.
To find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God!


Nally Stand

"There are no innocents in Gaza. Don't let any diplomats who want to look good in the world endanger your lives. At the tiniest concern for your lives, mow them down! There are no righteous men [in Gaza], turn it into rubble! Paint it red!"
–       Michael Ben-Ari, Israeli Member of Parliament


"The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages, only then will Israel be calm for 40 years. We must blow Gaza back to the Middle Ages, destroying all the infrastructure, including roads and water."
–      Eli Yishai, Deputy Prime Minister of Israel


"We need to flatten entire neighborhoods in Gaza. Flatten all of Gaza. The Americans didn't stop with Hiroshima – the Japanese weren't surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too. To prevent harm to innocent civilians in Gaza will ultimately lead to harming the truly innocent: the residents of southern Israel. The residents of Gaza are not innocent, they elected Hamas. The Gazans aren't hostages; they chose this freely, and must live with the consequences."
–      Gilad Sharon, son of former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon



Has Inda opened his mouth about this at all yet?
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

southdown

Correct me if am wrong, but if Palestine were able to get full UN status (that is a bif if) could Israel then be held accountable by the International Criminal Court for their actions?

Is full UN membership a realistic goal, or will the US do all in their powers to veto this. 

give her dixie

Quote from: southdown on November 20, 2012, 01:34:14 PM
Correct me if am wrong, but if Palestine were able to get full UN status (that is a bif if) could Israel then be held accountable by the International Criminal Court for their actions?

Is full UN membership a realistic goal, or will the US do all in their powers to veto this.

Yep, as a state, Palestine can take Israel to court and by the time they are finished with them, there wouldn't be much left. As Seafoid said earlier, it would be the end of the Zionist dream and plan.

So, in light of that, never will the US allow that to happen as they hold a veto at the UN. That is the sham of the UN as it's a democracy of one.

The very fact that Obama hasn't been able to say boo so far on the babies getting murdered, and instead justifies their death in a "Israel has the right to defend itself" statement. Pathetic excuse for a human and as a father of 2 young girls, it shows you how much hold Israel have over the US. The US is not allowed to comment and must do as it's told by a lunatic state in the Middle East. It is extremely sad as it makes a complete mockery of the independence of the US.

Towards the US, Israel behaves like a school bully. Every one of his victims hand over their full support and dinner money. Until they grow up and grow a pair of balls, the school bully will reign.
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

ballinaman

Quote from: Nally Stand on November 19, 2012, 04:25:24 PM
Register your disgust with the Israeli ambassador at:

ambassador-sec@dublin.mfa.gov.il

It won't solve anything, but can't do any harm to bombard the tramps with emails.
Dropped him a line there to let them know my thoughts.
Shame on Israel.

give her dixie

In the past hour, Israel have killed another 12 Palestinians. 4 are children

2 children were killed instantly as a "Surgical Strike" hit them and their 15 friends as they were playing. Cars arriving at the hospital filled with badly injured kids.

Today is international day for children. Israel knows how best to mark such a special day
next stop, September 10, for number 4......