The Palestine thread

[give her dixie]

It never ceases to amaze me how steadfast the Palestinians really are. Here they are once again getting pulverized in their homeland by a nuclear armed murderous regime made up of squatters. They are standing up to their fleet of over 250 F16's and F whatever the latest killing machine that the US taxpayers send them every week. Apache murder machines, and the up to date lethal weapon called a Drone. A large fleet of war ships patrol their coast, and they get their kicks from shooting fishermen and sinking their old boats.

They have been locked up now for that many years, the siege has just become a way of life. For survival, they dig 1 km tunnels to bring in food. Israel takes great pride in bombing these tunnels, and then tell the world that they destroyed an "arms smuggling tunnel". A few years ago, the US taxpayers paid millions to install an underground 12" thick plate, 500 metres underground, cutting off all the lifeline tunnels. The Palestinians responded by digging deeper or spending 2 days with cutting gas and cutting a large hole in the steel. Within a few months, all life line tunnels were back to full capacity. Money well spent on the under ground steel wall.

They have the highest rate of amputee's and wheel chair users per head of capita such is the amount of injuries received over the years. Every single family in the strip has had a relative killed or injured over the years.

80% of the population are refugee's and rely on the UN for food. They are part of the 7 million Palestinian refugee's scattered across the middle east in similar camps. They live in poor conditions and still hold the keys to their homes they were forced out of in 1948. Their homes now occupied by squatters from across the world who get to live there because they are Jews.

Unemployment in Gaza is at 60 to 70%, and well over half of the population are under 18. I delivered more goods to the UK in the past 10 days than Gaza was allowed to export all year.

When you consider how they have to live, you have to wonder why people ask "Why do they fire rockets"

[give her dixie]

Some tweets coming out now.....

BREAKING| More than FIFTEEN Israeli Apaches are hovering over Nussairat refugee camp, central #Gaza Strip !!

Two children killed in an airstrike on a house in #Gaza city, 6 journalists injured on building for media offices.

Jon Donnison ‏@JonDonnison
This is what we are hearing in #Gaza city in last 10 minutes or so. Not edited. Sounds like Israeli shelling from sea. http://soundcloud.com/jondonnison/sunday-shelling-from-at-sea ...

BREAKING: #IOF now are striking buildings that host press offices in Gaza, injuries reported

According to #Gaza radio, two children have been killed in Jabalia and ten civilians injured, presumably by naval fire. #GazaUnderAttack

Jon Donnison ‏@JonDonnison
Terrible lifts & lighting in Shawa and Hussari building which we believe just been hit. Around 12 floors high. Difficult 2 get out of. #Gaza

alex thomson ‏@alextomo
#c4news #gaza local reports say 6 journalists injured in Israeli attack on news agency building

[give her dixie]

You got to hand it to Israel, they launch "Surgical Strikes" on the media buildings where all the journalists are. 6 have been taken to hospital and a local TV station destroyed.....

How will Mark Regev spin this one?

[seafoid]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/17/israel-gaza-us-policy

According to Haaretz, Israel's Interior Minister, Eli Yishai, said this about Israel's attacks on Gaza: "The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages."

[seafoid]

Ball DeBeaver any comment on Israel supplying weapons to loyalist terrorists in the north?

I assume you approved of this and their use in the murder of Catholics.

That's antisemitic, er ..

[seafoid]

To read some of the bull on this thread you would think Israel are just firing at will at the civilians of Gaza. They aren't. Hamas and it's allies are firing indiscriminately into Israel, with the hope that they kill as many jews as possible. Israel are specifically targetting known senior terrorist members, weapons caches and firing points for rockets. All of these are using the civilian population of Gaza as cover.
If Israel just wanted to kill as many pals as possible, then it could use some of it's considerable weaponry at their disposal, not just the odd missile at a moving car.
Civilian casualties are deeply regretted, and should be avoided, but sometimes they are unavoidable. The strike on     al jabari is a good example of how Israel target these people. His car was allowed to reach the junction (the widest point) to minimise the number of civilians in the area.
If Israel were to fire indiscriminately at unarmed civilians, I would have no hesitation in condeming them for it, as I have in the past. If the pals were to target only military targets in their rocket attacks, I could not condem them for it. They don't. They only target civilians, and as long as they do that then I will continue to demonise these vile pieces of filth as the murdering scum they are.

I'm sure they'll get the white phosphorous out soon enough. Between that and the cluster-bombs they have the terrorism down to a fine art.

Not to mention the depleted uranium.

And anyone who objects is told either

A you are an antisemite
b it is worse in Somalia
c if the Palestinians loved their children none of this would happen

Zionism will destroy mainstream Judaism.

[seafoid]

You got to hand it to Israel, they launch "Surgical Strikes" on the media buildings where all the journalists are. 6 have been taken to hospital and a local TV station destroyed.....

How will Mark Regev spin this one?

When did Regev become a surgeon? 

Here is Regev telling Paxo that a UN school in Gaza Israel bombed was used by Hamas to fire on Israel 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wv0giW1elo

Israel recently admitted that the story was bullshit

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-tv-admits-no-rockets-were-ever-fired-unrwa-schools-gaza-during-cast-lead

Never trust a Zionist junkie.

[seafoid]

" Hamas and it's allies are firing indiscriminately into Israel, with the hope that they kill as many jews as possible."

This is utter horseshit. AND THE USE OF "IT'S" IS DEPLORABLE.

In 2011 2 people  in Israel were killed by a palestinian rocket. This year 3 have died

As for genocide, at the going kill rate, it would require 4,477,714,286 rockets and mortars, and 4,477,714 years to kill all the Jews in Israel

What is far more dangerous and needs to be wiped out is the Israeli institution of marriage

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4151492,00.html

Twenty-three Israeli women were murdered by their partners in 2011, according to data published by Women's International Zionist Organization (WIZO) ahead of the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women on Friday

However don't hold Your breath.

[ludermor]

I didn't mention Seafoid or GHD, you did, so you get over yourself, arsehole

Why the need to get personal and cast insults? Do you really think the israeli gov would plant someone on a gaa board in 2006 to get ready for a 2012 propaganda brief?
And i know you didnt mention GHD or Seafoid but they constanly post links from the complete opposite to BDB views but you dont accuse them of being plants.

[give her dixie]

Gods chosen people have just destroyed a house in Gaza killing 11 members of the same family. 5 children and 4 women among the dead.

This is just so so sad at this stage. This isn't a war, its a massacre

[Rossfan]

Another of the many massacres perpetrated by the Zionist Supremacists on the Palestinian people since 1948.
Meanwhile Goldenboy Obama gives the Zionists his full imprimatur while the rest of the "Free world" looks the other way and continues to engage in silly adventures in Afghanistan.

[give her dixie]

Another of the many massacres perpetrated by the Zionist Supremacists on the Palestinian people since 1948.
Meanwhile Goldenboy Obama gives the Zionists his full imprimatur while the rest of the "Free world" looks the other way and continues to engage in silly adventures in Afghanistan.

And how can the west arm, support, fund and recognise a bunch of unelected gangsters in Lybia and Syria as the true leaders in those countries, and yet, at the same time, arm, support, and fund another bunch of gangsters in their attempt to over throw a democratically Government in Gaza.

Democracy, western style it seems......

[seafoid]

Gods chosen people have just destroyed a house in Gaza killing 11 members of the same family. 5 children and 4 women among the dead.

This is just so so sad at this stage. This isn't a war, its a massacre

It isn't war . It's apartheid. Zionism is an addiction to violence. God only knows how it is related to Judaism.

[seafoid]

Op-Ed: Spare Us the Pieties on Gaza

Published: Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:25 PM

Disproportion? Innocents in Gaza? Give me a break!




Jack Engelhard
Jack Engelhard is the author of "The Bathsheba Deadline" and "Indecent Proposal", as well as the award-winning memoir of his experiences as a Jewish refugee from Europe, "Escape From Mount Moriah". His latest novel, "The Girls of Cincinnati," is available on Amazon. He can be reached at his website www. jackengelhard. com.




As for those "innocent civilians" in Gaza, they were given a choice and they chose Hamas. They chose this pestilence.


God bless the IDF! Go Israel!


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12456

@BDB

I presume you agree with what you post. So let's take the highlighted sentence back 31 years to a by election in Norn Irn.
Eoin Carron was Bobby Sand's election agent and when the latter died during the hunger strikes he was elected by a landslide in Fermanagh South Tyrone.

Now imagine that the catholics of that constituency got the Gaza treatment. Any catholic business within the area slowly strangled by customs rules. All catholics restricted to 2000 calories per day.  Every 4 years FST bombed with F16s. No rebuilding allowed in between.  Anyone trying to travel to Armagh or Derry shot on sight at the fence surrounding the constituency.  30% of catholic women develop anemia. 10% severely malnourished.   

When the FG?labour coalition   in Dublin complain to London the following year Norman Tebbit replies with


As for those "innocent civilians" in Fermanagh South Tyrone, they were given a choice and they chose Sinn Fein . They chose this pestilence

And that is the logic that you apply to the Palestinians.
Obviously all the Ulster posters on the board would agree with you. 

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

I remember seeing a BBC documentary a few years ago where BBC journalists were chased away from an illegal West Bank settlement by a Zionist settler brandishing an offensive machine gun and an even more offensive Texan accent. Today on BBC news a Russian Zionist immigrant in Israel proper was interviewed and she suggested that Israel flatten Gaza just like Russia did to Chechnya in their war. Just made me think Israel might need to alter its immigration polices.