The IRISH RUGBY thread

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Walter Cronc

Quote from: seafoid on April 30, 2018, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 30, 2018, 09:55:49 AM
Jees there's some kick up in Leinster about a couple of their lads moving up North!

It'll all be for nought unless Ulster get a decent coach in. . . is there any word on who they've got?

Serious arrogance in the media regarding this. Ulster are one of the biggest clubs in Europe albeit having a poor season. Going by the story in the Irish Times today it looks like Carberry will have little choice in the matter. If Joe Schmidt tells you to go, you go!
Irish rugby is not free market. It's more socialist. Ulster need an outhalf and Leinster have a few spares .
The whole thing is geared towards the national team and looking at the trophies collected in the Professional era versus pre it is a good system.

I agree. We have to maximise our playing pool and if that means lads having to go north or whest then so be it!

johnnycool

Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 30, 2018, 09:55:49 AM
Jees there's some kick up in Leinster about a couple of their lads moving up North!

It'll all be for nought unless Ulster get a decent coach in. . . is there any word on who they've got?

Serious arrogance in the media regarding this. Ulster are one of the biggest clubs in Europe albeit having a poor season. Going by the story in the Irish Times today it looks like Carberry will have little choice in the matter. If Joe Schmidt tells you to go, you go!

The joys/woes of centralised contracts.

The IRFU call the shots, not Leinster or Ulster.

Carberry will do well in Ulster, first choice, plenty of game time and all that.

Walter Cronc

Quote from: johnnycool on April 30, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 30, 2018, 09:55:49 AM
Jees there's some kick up in Leinster about a couple of their lads moving up North!

It'll all be for nought unless Ulster get a decent coach in. . . is there any word on who they've got?

Serious arrogance in the media regarding this. Ulster are one of the biggest clubs in Europe albeit having a poor season. Going by the story in the Irish Times today it looks like Carberry will have little choice in the matter. If Joe Schmidt tells you to go, you go!

The joys/woes of centralised contracts.

The IRFU call the shots, not Leinster or Ulster.

Carberry will do well in Ulster, first choice, plenty of game time and all that.


I actually don't Carberry is on a central contract? There's only about 12-15 players in Ireland on them as far as I know - mainly established starters.


screenexile

Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 30, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 30, 2018, 09:55:49 AM
Jees there's some kick up in Leinster about a couple of their lads moving up North!

It'll all be for nought unless Ulster get a decent coach in. . . is there any word on who they've got?

Serious arrogance in the media regarding this. Ulster are one of the biggest clubs in Europe albeit having a poor season. Going by the story in the Irish Times today it looks like Carberry will have little choice in the matter. If Joe Schmidt tells you to go, you go!

The joys/woes of centralised contracts.

The IRFU call the shots, not Leinster or Ulster.

Carberry will do well in Ulster, first choice, plenty of game time and all that.


I actually don't Carberry is on a central contract? There's only about 12-15 players in Ireland on them as far as I know - mainly established starters.

Seems to be a few strategic commentators complaining about it as well . . . D'Arcy/O'Driscoll/Francis seem to be very vocal about it.

Are they maybe being asked to push it from the powers that be in Belfield?

Walter Cronc

Francis quoting Churchill in his latest article.

Tells you everything you need to know about that westbrit S.E!!

As for D'arcy he'd eat himself if he could.

BOD is entitled to his opinion but I'd say looking back he regrets saying what he did.

rosnarun

Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 30, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 30, 2018, 09:55:49 AM
Jees there's some kick up in Leinster about a couple of their lads moving up North!

It'll all be for nought unless Ulster get a decent coach in. . . is there any word on who they've got?

Serious arrogance in the media regarding this. Ulster are one of the biggest clubs in Europe albeit having a poor season. Going by the story in the Irish Times today it looks like Carberry will have little choice in the matter. If Joe Schmidt tells you to go, you go!

The joys/woes of centralised contracts.

The IRFU call the shots, not Leinster or Ulster.

Carberry will do well in Ulster, first choice, plenty of game time and all that.


I actually don't Carberry is on a central contract? There's only about 12-15 players in Ireland on them as far as I know - mainly established starters.


so why would the IRFU be involved in the contract discussion.
do some of the have lesser IRFU contracts . that the way they started out  like the 1st 15 on A (or elite) contracts and next  15 on reduced value B contract and so on top one used to be about 150K plus bonus'
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Walter Cronc

Quote from: rosnarun on April 30, 2018, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 30, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 30, 2018, 09:55:49 AM
Jees there's some kick up in Leinster about a couple of their lads moving up North!

It'll all be for nought unless Ulster get a decent coach in. . . is there any word on who they've got?

Serious arrogance in the media regarding this. Ulster are one of the biggest clubs in Europe albeit having a poor season. Going by the story in the Irish Times today it looks like Carberry will have little choice in the matter. If Joe Schmidt tells you to go, you go!

The joys/woes of centralised contracts.

The IRFU call the shots, not Leinster or Ulster.

Carberry will do well in Ulster, first choice, plenty of game time and all that.


I actually don't Carberry is on a central contract? There's only about 12-15 players in Ireland on them as far as I know - mainly established starters.


so why would the IRFU be involved in the contract discussion.
do some of the have lesser IRFU contracts . that the way they started out  like the 1st 15 on A (or elite) contracts and next  15 on reduced value B contract and so on top one used to be about 150K plus bonus'

Not 100% sure but the likes of Zebo wasn't on a central contract as far as I know. Neither was Donnacha Ryan.

The IRFU would be getting involved in this scenario as I believe Ulster approached them for a suitable replacement following the decision to terminate Jacksons contract. I think Jackson was centrally contracted.

oakleaflad

Dan McFarland is the new Ulster head coach

OgraAnDun


Walter Cronc

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 30, 2018, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on April 30, 2018, 03:37:22 PM
Dan McFarland is the new Ulster head coach

In January 2019.

This is a strange one! Director of Rugby to be appointed and then Farrell/Easterby to whip them into shape?

Obviously the two mentioned will have Ireland duties also.


mrdeeds

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 30, 2018, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:44:59 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 29, 2018, 12:06:11 AM
Why is the state paying the salaries of teachers in fee paying schools when they use so much ancillary money to pay for rugby coaches?
Every child is entitled to a State education. The fees are for the extras (coaches), not the basics (education).
Then why don't the parents send them to a non fee paying school?

The state pay a certain amount of staff based on enrolment numbers. Schools will pay some staff privately with fees to hire extra teachers and reduce class sizes.

Owen Brannigan

SKY loses all rugby for 2018-19, might still have English Championship.

Aviva English Premiership had already gone to BT and the remaining European rugby has been taken by BT as well. 

Eir Sport has taken Pro14 for RoI but will licence one game per round (21) to free to air channel most likely TG4.

Premier Sports, a subscription channel, has taken Pro14 for UK and will licence one game per round (21) to its own free to air channel called Free Sports.

BBC NI, Wales and Scotland have all lost Pro14 rugby.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: mrdeeds on April 30, 2018, 10:04:13 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 30, 2018, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:44:59 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 29, 2018, 12:06:11 AM
Why is the state paying the salaries of teachers in fee paying schools when they use so much ancillary money to pay for rugby coaches?
Every child is entitled to a State education. The fees are for the extras (coaches), not the basics (education).
Then why don't the parents send them to a non fee paying school?

The state pay a certain amount of staff based on enrolment numbers. Schools will pay some staff privately with fees to hire extra teachers and reduce class sizes.
Which is wrong

thewobbler

Andrew Trimble hanging them up.

Obviously a bit mad upstairs with all that God stuff. But a player I've immense respect for. Burst onto the scene as a Centre until everyone worked out he couldn't offload. Went quiet for a few years and then came back a raging bull of a winger, an absolute horror show to run into. And he even sort of learned how to offload.

His greatest tackles over the past decade would make great viewing.

Enjoy retirement lad.