Leinster Senior football championship 2024

Started by Blowitupref, April 01, 2024, 09:25:11 PM

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tonto1888

Quote from: The Boy Wonder on April 09, 2024, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2024, 06:08:44 PMYou still can't answer why Meath and Kildare are broken but not other teams who are much closer to dublin - i.e. Derry and Kerry and Tyrone when they get themselves in gear will be there or thereabouts.


Teams get a huge confidence boost by winning their provincial championship and are much more primed for a crack at the Dubs than Leinster counties who have been crushed by the Dubs for over a decade. The demoralising effect of Dublin's dominance in Leinster also has a knock-on effect in the League - the imbalance of Ulster v Leinster teams in Division 1 being the prime example.

The provincial system exacerbates the problem with Leinster football. The Ulster Championship is the model for a proper Provincial competition. Connacht has Mayo, Galway & Roscommon in regular contention. Munster has Kerry, Cork and at times Clare or Tipperary. If Kildare and Meath were in Connacht or Munster I would say they would be quite competitive and in the shake-up quite regularly.



or maybe Ulster teams are just better?

Armagh18

Quote from: tonto1888 on April 10, 2024, 08:53:01 AM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on April 09, 2024, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2024, 06:08:44 PMYou still can't answer why Meath and Kildare are broken but not other teams who are much closer to dublin - i.e. Derry and Kerry and Tyrone when they get themselves in gear will be there or thereabouts.


Teams get a huge confidence boost by winning their provincial championship and are much more primed for a crack at the Dubs than Leinster counties who have been crushed by the Dubs for over a decade. The demoralising effect of Dublin's dominance in Leinster also has a knock-on effect in the League - the imbalance of Ulster v Leinster teams in Division 1 being the prime example.

The provincial system exacerbates the problem with Leinster football. The Ulster Championship is the model for a proper Provincial competition. Connacht has Mayo, Galway & Roscommon in regular contention. Munster has Kerry, Cork and at times Clare or Tipperary. If Kildare and Meath were in Connacht or Munster I would say they would be quite competitive and in the shake-up quite regularly.



or maybe Ulster teams are just better?
From what I saw of Meath and Kildare against us in the league neither even play the same sport as Dublin. Woeful stuff.

seafoid

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 09, 2024, 11:40:31 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on April 09, 2024, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2024, 06:08:44 PMYou still can't answer why Meath and Kildare are broken but not other teams who are much closer to dublin - i.e. Derry and Kerry and Tyrone when they get themselves in gear will be there or thereabouts.


Teams get a huge confidence boost by winning their provincial championship and are much more primed for a crack at the Dubs than Leinster counties who have been crushed by the Dubs for over a decade. The demoralising effect of Dublin's dominance in Leinster also has a knock-on effect in the League - the imbalance of Ulster v Leinster teams in Division 1 being the prime example.

The provincial system exacerbates the problem with Leinster football. The Ulster Championship is the model for a proper Provincial competition. Connacht has Mayo, Galway & Roscommon in regular contention. Munster has Kerry, Cork and at times Clare or Tipperary. If Kildare and Meath were in Connacht or Munster I would say they would be quite competitive and in the shake-up quite regularly.


Bar the odd slip Kerry are regularly miles better than the rest in Munster although to a lesser extent than the Dubs. Weak excuse either way, no reason Meath shouldn't be a whole pile more competitive. 
It's all relative. Meath can keep the scoreboard looking ok for 20 minutes
Kerry are able to keep up with them for 72 minutes

The Sam Maguire can't be competitive if  one team has lost just 4 matches in 13 years.

mup

The argument appears every year as to why Meath and Kildare are not as competitive as Derry, Roscommon etc etc. The likes of Derry and Roscommon have a realistic chance of a provincial title. Meath and Kildare have zero chance and have not had a chance for several years. Eventually that demoralises a county and things eventually stagnate and fall away.

The Leinster Championship is a joke. The GAA have destroyed it and the attendances reflect that.

Dunneroyal

Meath lost by 6 in 21. After two total wrong penalty calls. One that was given to Dublin that should not have been. Another that wasn't given to Meath. Also we ran them close in league. So we had made progress but then the cb for political reasons decided to vote out that management even though clubs rejected that it totally destroyed the year. They then but in their own man with the "expenses" going from 25k for last management to a whopping 125k for last year. And huge decline in performances. We have had every excuse from young team to sigerson and everything in between. Meath have not only the players to compete with Dublin (not saying we'd beat them) but competitive for 70 minutes. And indeed to beat the likes of Roscommon, Armagh , Galway and Mayo. The problem is we don't have the sideline who'd rather give nonsense quotes in Latin talk absolute rubbish and look for every excuse under the sun for his own shortcomings. 
Hon the royal

Blowitupref

No Brian Fenton for Dublin this weekend as they were unsuccessful in their appeal on his red card in the league final
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Armagh18

Quote from: Blowitupref on April 10, 2024, 02:29:21 PMNo Brian Fenton for Dublin this weekend as they were unsuccessful in their appeal on his red card in the league final
Imagine Meath caught them.

(Yeah right)

seafoid

Camogie is an example of a system that works. Maybe the GAA could look into it.

Cork, Kilkenny and Galway have won the last 3 all Irelands. Tá Tipp and Waterford ag teacht. 5 competitive teams. Skill levels are high and matches are exciting.

"Tipp have beaten us in our last 2 matches. They have strong players all over the field and we're going to have to have our best performance of the league to beat them" Cathal Murray told Tuam Herald Sport

I am old enough to remember when leinster football used to be like that.

#JaysusChrisht

SouthOfThe Bann

Meath need a Malachy O'Rourke type figure to come in and straighten them out.

Blowitupref

1996 to 2005 was the last competitive decade for Leinster football championship. Titles won by Meath 3,Dublin 2,Kildare 2,Westmeath 1,Offaly 1,Laois 1. 


The last three years U20 Leinster championships was won by Kildare 2,Offaly 1 and since U17 was introduced in 2017 Leinster has been won by Meath 4, Dublin 2,Kildare 1 so there is the potential to get a different name to Delaney Cup in the years ahead.  For now it's a case of who will be 2nd best in Leinster and will grab the 2nd seed spot in the All Ireland group stage.

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Blowitupref

Quote from: Rossfan on April 13, 2024, 08:29:37 PMBiffs giving Laois a good batin'°
First win over Laois since 2002. A good win for Offaly 2-13 to 1-8 in a match that was expected to be a close competitive contest. Laois hopes not helped going down to 14 men.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

screenexile

Wicklow fairly butchered that!!!

A missed free form the 21 and then then the young lad trying the goal from far out he could easily have carried that in and made sure.

They'll be sick.

Main Street


Blowitupref

Kildare was four points up heading into injury time and foolishly gave the ball away to allow Wicklow to level it up with a penalty.  After that Wicklow against 13 men did butcher it, should have taken their point instead of going for goal?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose