China Coronavirus

[trileacman]

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

Aiding and abetting the spread of a lethal virus with significant mortality risk for the elderly and people with common co-morbidities on one hand.

On the other hand is the disappointment of not getting on your holidays.

People who go on holidays definitely have the alternative not to travel. Anyone who does is a greedy bollix.

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But if it's lockdown , business shuts, council's will hardly get their rents, staff don't get paid , be pretty much close shop ,open shop six weeks later back to normal, govt lose a few quid from emergency fund .

What about staff who need to pay for things like food, heat, light, mortgage, cars? Are you f**king serious? It would be carnage!

Thousands coming back from Cheltenham isnt going to help this!

Stop and quarantine at entry points. The country can run smoothly as normal if it's contained at ports/airports. If they don't do that, we will have an Italy style lockdown in a week or two. Now that would be carnage!!

Anyone who goes to Cheltenham and comes back is a bollocks of the highest order. Much of this in Europe is a virus spread by the jet set.

Dr Harries said cancelling big outdoor events like football matches would not necessarily be a decision supported by science.

"The virus will not survive very long outside," she said. "Many outdoor events, particularly, are relatively safe."

Experts.

Expert or is Dr Jenny Harries a mouthpiece for the Boris Johnson government?

Yes an unqualified mouthpiece, as opposed to yourself who's seems to be quite the authority on public health issues including but not limited to the cause of the Spanish flu.

There's something called commonsense and anyone who travels abroad for a ski holiday, takes a cruise, heads off to a sporting festival held over a number of days where large crowds will gather is being irresponsible. This is all non-essential travel and if people can't put up with that life of leisure for awhile, they are being a selfish bollocks.

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

It's bad luck, but compared to what could happen - a recession, rising unemployment and people losing jobs, not to mention untimely deaths, more pressure on a crumbling health service, it's a small price to pay to give up that trip on the horses.

It's not your call to make. If the government ban travel then yes but until then people are free to do as they wish and they should be vilified by the likes of you.

[HiMucker]

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

Aiding and abetting the spread of a lethal virus with significant mortality risk for the elderly and people with common co-morbidities on one hand.

On the other hand is the disappointment of not getting on your holidays.

People who go on holidays definitely have the alternative not to travel. Anyone who does is a greedy bollix.

Balls. Governments should cancel flights then or implement procedures. Ridiculous to expect the average citizen to interpret all the data and information and do something different from what the government and WHO is advising and advocating.

[Solo_run]

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

Aiding and abetting the spread of a lethal virus with significant mortality risk for the elderly and people with common co-morbidities on one hand.

On the other hand is the disappointment of not getting on your holidays.

People who go on holidays definitely have the alternative not to travel. Anyone who does is a greedy bollix.

People are selfish. If the virus mutates (which is possible) then they would stop travelling.

I have parents in their 70s who have COPD and can just about fight off a cold. Unfortunately there's loads of ways the virus can transmit. ... Someone coughing in a supermarket, hospital, GP surgery.... Then there's people who don't wash their hands and touch petrol pumps, products in supermarkets. Then there i
Is transmission through family member  etc it's never ending the way this virus can infect people.

I would be more inclined to buy surgical gloves and wash hands at every opportunity

[Solo_run]

But if it's lockdown , business shuts, council's will hardly get their rents, staff don't get paid , be pretty much close shop ,open shop six weeks later back to normal, govt lose a few quid from emergency fund .

What about staff who need to pay for things like food, heat, light, mortgage, cars? Are you f**king serious? It would be carnage!

Thousands coming back from Cheltenham isnt going to help this!

Stop and quarantine at entry points. The country can run smoothly as normal if it's contained at ports/airports. If they don't do that, we will have an Italy style lockdown in a week or two. Now that would be carnage!!

Anyone who goes to Cheltenham and comes back is a bollocks of the highest order. Much of this in Europe is a virus spread by the jet set.

Dr Harries said cancelling big outdoor events like football matches would not necessarily be a decision supported by science.

"The virus will not survive very long outside," she said. "Many outdoor events, particularly, are relatively safe."

Experts.

Expert or is Dr Jenny Harries a mouthpiece for the Boris Johnson government?

Yes an unqualified mouthpiece, as opposed to yourself who's seems to be quite the authority on public health issues including but not limited to the cause of the Spanish flu.

The UK government have said that they expect thousands to be infected. The number of deaths are unknown but it is very likely the hospitals are going to be pushed past their breaking point. I seen what ir was like with that flu two/three years ago.

If hundreds and thousands are going to be infected then it is obvious the current stage we are at is not working. Manage the problem while it is manageable and bring in stricter measures now otherwise we are facing a China and Italy style lock down. It is almost like the UK government are trying to put a house fire out with a fire extinguisher.

[RadioGAAGAA]

What keeps the economy going if the country shuts down for 4-6 weeks? I could work with 2 weeks self isolation. But if it is 4-6 weeks complete quarantine and our business stops what should I do?

That is why the dopey government should have been trying everything to keep this confined to border entries.

Pick it up there, and you avoid the need for shutting down the entire country.

[square_ball]

It really is the worst possible prime minister for such a scenario.

(You could take the last 4 words away there too).

This is his take on it "One of the theories is perhaps you could take it on the chin, take it all in one go & allow #coronvirus to move through the population"

Boris has no intention of any lockdowns.

[GetOverTheBar]

It really is the worst possible prime minister for such a scenario.

(You could take the last 4 words away there too).

This is his take on it "One of the theories is perhaps you could take it on the chin, take it all in one go & allow #coronvirus to move through the population"

Boris has no intention of any lockdowns.

I think the Brexit campaign clearly highlighted the inability for anyone to do anything clear regarding borders - that was just for trade.

[AFM]

But if it's lockdown , business shuts, council's will hardly get their rents, staff don't get paid , be pretty much close shop ,open shop six weeks later back to normal, govt lose a few quid from emergency fund .

What about staff who need to pay for things like food, heat, light, mortgage, cars? Are you f**king serious? It would be carnage!

Thousands coming back from Cheltenham isnt going to help this!

Stop and quarantine at entry points. The country can run smoothly as normal if it's contained at ports/airports. If they don't do that, we will have an Italy style lockdown in a week or two. Now that would be carnage!!

Anyone who goes to Cheltenham and comes back is a bollocks of the highest order. Much of this in Europe is a virus spread by the jet set.

Dr Harries said cancelling big outdoor events like football matches would not necessarily be a decision supported by science.

"The virus will not survive very long outside," she said. "Many outdoor events, particularly, are relatively safe."

Experts.

Expert or is Dr Jenny Harries a mouthpiece for the Boris Johnson government?

Yes an unqualified mouthpiece, as opposed to yourself who's seems to be quite the authority on public health issues including but not limited to the cause of the Spanish flu.

There's something called commonsense and anyone who travels abroad for a ski holiday, takes a cruise, heads off to a sporting festival held over a number of days where large crowds will gather is being irresponsible. This is all non-essential travel and if people can't put up with that life of leisure for awhile, they are being a selfish bollocks.

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

It's bad luck, but compared to what could happen - a recession, rising unemployment and people losing jobs, not to mention untimely deaths, more pressure on a crumbling health service, it's a small price to pay to give up that trip on the horses.

Insurance companies could just cough up, the government could enforce a travel ban, I personally wouldn't go or allow my children to go, but I do get why some might. 

[larryin89]

Several times in work today I've heard people say "ahh it's only going to affect the elderly " in the context of f**k them . You'd have to wonder about humanity in the modern world

[trileacman]

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

Aiding and abetting the spread of a lethal virus with significant mortality risk for the elderly and people with common co-morbidities on one hand.

On the other hand is the disappointment of not getting on your holidays.

People who go on holidays definitely have the alternative not to travel. Anyone who does is a greedy bollix.

Balls. Governments should cancel flights then or implement procedures. Ridiculous to expect the average citizen to interpret all the data and information and do something different from what the government and WHO is advising and advocating.

Balls. There's not much data to interpret. It's a lethal virus with a mortality rate of up to 10% amongst the elderly and people with co-morbidities. It's spread very rapidly amongst people and communities. If you find yourself in a moral quandry between spreading a lethal disease and going on holidays then your a w**ker.

[AFM]

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

Aiding and abetting the spread of a lethal virus with significant mortality risk for the elderly and people with common co-morbidities on one hand.

On the other hand is the disappointment of not getting on your holidays.

People who go on holidays definitely have the alternative not to travel. Anyone who does is a greedy bollix.

Balls. Governments should cancel flights then or implement procedures. Ridiculous to expect the average citizen to interpret all the data and information and do something different from what the government and WHO is advising and advocating.

Balls. There's not much data to interpret. It's a lethal virus with a mortality rate of up to 10% amongst the elderly and people with co-morbidities. It's spread very rapidly amongst people and communities. If you find yourself in a moral quandry between spreading a lethal disease and going on holidays then your a w**ker.

Enforce a travel ban - take it out of individuals hands!

[Solo_run]

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

Aiding and abetting the spread of a lethal virus with significant mortality risk for the elderly and people with common co-morbidities on one hand.

On the other hand is the disappointment of not getting on your holidays.

People who go on holidays definitely have the alternative not to travel. Anyone who does is a greedy bollix.

Balls. Governments should cancel flights then or implement procedures. Ridiculous to expect the average citizen to interpret all the data and information and do something different from what the government and WHO is advising and advocating.

Balls. There's not much data to interpret. It's a lethal virus with a mortality rate of up to 10% amongst the elderly and people with co-morbidities. It's spread very rapidly amongst people and communities. If you find yourself in a moral quandry between spreading a lethal disease and going on holidays then your a w**ker.

Out of curiosity, how many people on this forum would be in the at risk groups? I'm not at risk but I take ever precaution possible to ensure elderly people are not affected by a virus that could be eliminated if society as a while takes necessary precautions.

[HiMucker]

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

Aiding and abetting the spread of a lethal virus with significant mortality risk for the elderly and people with common co-morbidities on one hand.

On the other hand is the disappointment of not getting on your holidays.

People who go on holidays definitely have the alternative not to travel. Anyone who does is a greedy bollix.

Balls. Governments should cancel flights then or implement procedures. Ridiculous to expect the average citizen to interpret all the data and information and do something different from what the government and WHO is advising and advocating.

Balls. There's not much data to interpret. It's a lethal virus with a mortality rate of up to 10% amongst the elderly and people with co-morbidities. It's spread very rapidly amongst people and communities. If you find yourself in a moral quandry between spreading a lethal disease and going on holidays then your a w**ker.

Enforce a travel ban - take it out of individuals hands!

Exactly. Youve got our Tyrone friend above passing moral judgement on those who might travel. Where do you draw the line? Condemn anyone going to cinema, gym bar cafe or whatever? Meeting up with their friends? Im sorry but the lead has to come from the top on this. I wouldnt be blaming anyone for spreading this unless they have went against official advice.

[Milltown Row2]

Alternatively, they have saved all year for something to strike upon this kind of bad luck. No refund on cancellations is no alternative to some. You must acknowledge that.

Aiding and abetting the spread of a lethal virus with significant mortality risk for the elderly and people with common co-morbidities on one hand.

On the other hand is the disappointment of not getting on your holidays.

People who go on holidays definitely have the alternative not to travel. Anyone who does is a greedy bollix.

Balls. Governments should cancel flights then or implement procedures. Ridiculous to expect the average citizen to interpret all the data and information and do something different from what the government and WHO is advising and advocating.

Balls. There's not much data to interpret. It's a lethal virus with a mortality rate of up to 10% amongst the elderly and people with co-morbidities. It's spread very rapidly amongst people and communities. If you find yourself in a moral quandry between spreading a lethal disease and going on holidays then your a w**ker.

Enforce a travel ban - take it out of individuals hands!

I remember the shutting down of flights after 9/11, Bombardier lost contracts and 1000's of jobs were lost during that period because of uncertainty in the market.

If and they possibly should then it will be a economic disaster.

I'd say the analysts have weighed up the pros and cons financially