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trailer

Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 01:41:23 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:29:19 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.

Srsly?



yes seriously. Had they celebrated with some class and dignity then you might had have a point. However, they didn't. They went on a drunken, bigoted maurade and abused everyone and anything in their way. No doubt there'll be a covid spike in a week or so - who will they blame for that

Celtic or Rangers?

6th sam

Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!
Totally agree, Celtic supporters haven't covered themselves in glory at times, but at least Celtic don't try to defend them. What really annoys me is the supremacist "we are the people" ethos , manifested by expecting the council to remove benches so that they can celebrate Unimpeded in a pandemic.


What also annoys me is the "old firm" nonsense. It's like two bald men fighting over a comb. Rangers have 55 titles apparently , I couldn't tell you how many Celtic have. I judge Celtic by their success (or lack of it) in Europe not an ugly local dogfight blighted by sectarianism. The two main protagonists in Scottish football have massive advantages over everybody else in Scotland . Winning a two-horse race 50% of the time is nothing to be shouting about. Getting  closer to the top of the European stage is far more meaningful.

Posters on here normalising Rangers rivalry with Celtic to Man City v Man Utd , Spurs v Arsenal , Liverpool v Everton , seem to forget Rangers ignominious history and ethos. I am not aware of another club in the world who had similar religious restrictions . Those that want to airbrush this out of Rangers , go ahead but most of us don't buy it.



trailer

Quote from: 6th sam on March 10, 2021, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!
Totally agree, Celtic supporters haven't covered themselves in glory at times, but at least Celtic don't try to defend them. What really annoys me is the supremacist "we are the people" ethos , manifested by expecting the council to remove benches so that they can celebrate Unimpeded in a pandemic.


What also annoys me is the "old firm" nonsense. It's like two bald men fighting over a comb. Rangers have 55 titles apparently , I couldn't tell you how many Celtic have. I judge Celtic by their success (or lack of it) in Europe not an ugly local dogfight blighted by sectarianism. The two main protagonists in Scottish football have massive advantages over everybody else in Scotland . Winning a two-horse race 50% of the time is nothing to be shouting about. Getting  closer to the top of the European stage is far more meaningful.

Posters on here normalising Rangers rivalry with Celtic to Man City v Man Utd , Spurs v Arsenal , Liverpool v Everton , seem to forget Rangers ignominious history and ethos. I am not aware of another club in the world who had similar religious restrictions . Those that want to airbrush this out of Rangers , go ahead but most of us don't buy it.

People only support Celtic and Rangers because of sectarian element. If it didn't have that they'd have no fans. Nobody watches that football by choice. The sectarianism keeps them relevant in the 21st century.


bennydorano

Well that is hardly worthy of a big yawn.

6th sam

#17870
Quote from: trailer on March 10, 2021, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: 6th sam on March 10, 2021, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!
Totally agree, Celtic supporters haven't covered themselves in glory at times, but at least Celtic don't try to defend them. What really annoys me is the supremacist "we are the people" ethos , manifested by expecting the council to remove benches so that they can celebrate Unimpeded in a pandemic.


What also annoys me is the "old firm" nonsense. It's like two bald men fighting over a comb. Rangers have 55 titles apparently , I couldn't tell you how many Celtic have. I judge Celtic by their success (or lack of it) in Europe not an ugly local dogfight blighted by sectarianism. The two main protagonists in Scottish football have massive advantages over everybody else in Scotland . Winning a two-horse race 50% of the time is nothing to be shouting about. Getting  closer to the top of the European stage is far more meaningful.

Posters on here normalising Rangers rivalry with Celtic to Man City v Man Utd , Spurs v Arsenal , Liverpool v Everton , seem to forget Rangers ignominious history and ethos. I am not aware of another club in the world who had similar religious restrictions . Those that want to airbrush this out of Rangers , go ahead but most of us don't buy it.

People only support Celtic and Rangers because of sectarian element. If it didn't have that they'd have no fans. Nobody watches that football by choice. The sectarianism keeps them relevant in the 21st century.

I'm not a big fan of any soccer team, but have an affinity with Celtic because of their origins, as a beacon for the beleaguered Irish diaspora in Scotland. From those noble charitable beginnings they enhanced the self esteem of the Glasgow Irish , to reach the absolute peak as a club in the most popular sport in the world. That is an origin and achievement to be very proud of, it's lazy analysis to portray that affinity as sectarianism. Rangers chose to bring religion into it, presumably to exclude The Irish diaspora. It's a bit like the DUP being accused of being anti-Catholic whereas in fact they are anti-Irish . 

Snapchap

Quote from: trailer on March 10, 2021, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: 6th sam on March 10, 2021, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!
Totally agree, Celtic supporters haven't covered themselves in glory at times, but at least Celtic don't try to defend them. What really annoys me is the supremacist "we are the people" ethos , manifested by expecting the council to remove benches so that they can celebrate Unimpeded in a pandemic.


What also annoys me is the "old firm" nonsense. It's like two bald men fighting over a comb. Rangers have 55 titles apparently , I couldn't tell you how many Celtic have. I judge Celtic by their success (or lack of it) in Europe not an ugly local dogfight blighted by sectarianism. The two main protagonists in Scottish football have massive advantages over everybody else in Scotland . Winning a two-horse race 50% of the time is nothing to be shouting about. Getting  closer to the top of the European stage is far more meaningful.

Posters on here normalising Rangers rivalry with Celtic to Man City v Man Utd , Spurs v Arsenal , Liverpool v Everton , seem to forget Rangers ignominious history and ethos. I am not aware of another club in the world who had similar religious restrictions . Those that want to airbrush this out of Rangers , go ahead but most of us don't buy it.

People only support Celtic and Rangers because of sectarian element. If it didn't have that they'd have no fans. Nobody watches that football by choice. The sectarianism keeps them relevant in the 21st century.

Now there's a bit of manure if ever I heard it. I don't keep an eye on any premiership results because I don't really care about any premiership clubs. I could pick a team but it would be an arbitrary choice. I haven't watched a Celtic game in years but they are one team I do keep an eye on for their results. Why? Because they are a club with strong Irish connections, so I'd rather them do well. There's nothing sectarian about that. I appreciate that you are only coming out with such arrogant nonsense as a means of virtue signalling, but surely you can think of better ways to feel better about yourself than by fabricating bogus reasons that you're somehow above others who you've just decided are sectarian for supporting Celtic.

Main Street

Celtic and Rangers and the two sides of the same coin phrase?
I get it and I agree with it
All coins have 2 different sides.  therefore the meaning taken from the phrase  is  having 2 different/opposite approaches to the same situation.




Celtic partied in a carnival atmosphere after their 'stop the 10'  season in 97/98
Rangers fans  after their 'stop the 10'  season according to the police, rioted to a degree, grovelled in sectarian bile  and broke the law.

tonto1888

Quote from: trailer on March 10, 2021, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: 6th sam on March 10, 2021, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!
Totally agree, Celtic supporters haven't covered themselves in glory at times, but at least Celtic don't try to defend them. What really annoys me is the supremacist "we are the people" ethos , manifested by expecting the council to remove benches so that they can celebrate Unimpeded in a pandemic.


What also annoys me is the "old firm" nonsense. It's like two bald men fighting over a comb. Rangers have 55 titles apparently , I couldn't tell you how many Celtic have. I judge Celtic by their success (or lack of it) in Europe not an ugly local dogfight blighted by sectarianism. The two main protagonists in Scottish football have massive advantages over everybody else in Scotland . Winning a two-horse race 50% of the time is nothing to be shouting about. Getting  closer to the top of the European stage is far more meaningful.

Posters on here normalising Rangers rivalry with Celtic to Man City v Man Utd , Spurs v Arsenal , Liverpool v Everton , seem to forget Rangers ignominious history and ethos. I am not aware of another club in the world who had similar religious restrictions . Those that want to airbrush this out of Rangers , go ahead but most of us don't buy it.

People only support Celtic and Rangers because of sectarian element. If it didn't have that they'd have no fans. Nobody watches that football by choice. The sectarianism keeps them relevant in the 21st century.

Such a sad little man

michaelg

Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 03:06:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!

There's different levels. No issue with the "can we see us now" stuff. That's good humoured banter. Have you looked at the videos from the weekend. Up to their knees in fenian blood and all crap. Trashing the celtic shop, trashing george's square. There's even one lad having a w**k while the mob encourage him. That's the levels you're dealing with here.

I'm not going to stand up for clowns throwing stones at a bus but don't anyone try to tell me that both sides are equal. They're not and they never have been.
Up to their knees in fenian blood vs Songs about Lee Rigby & Mountbatten.  Seems equal enough to me.

tonto1888

Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 03:06:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!

There's different levels. No issue with the "can we see us now" stuff. That's good humoured banter. Have you looked at the videos from the weekend. Up to their knees in fenian blood and all crap. Trashing the celtic shop, trashing george's square. There's even one lad having a w**k while the mob encourage him. That's the levels you're dealing with here.

I'm not going to stand up for clowns throwing stones at a bus but don't anyone try to tell me that both sides are equal. They're not and they never have been.
Up to their knees in fenian blood vs Songs about Lee Rigby & Mountbatten.  Seems equal enough to me.

I've said it before. Never heard Celtic fans sing about Mountbatten but don't see why you've any reason to lie about it. Can't excuse either but sings about Mountbatten or Lee Rigby are hardly favourites or sang often unlike the Billy boys. Hardly a like for like comparison

michaelg

Quote from: tonto1888 on March 10, 2021, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 03:06:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!

There's different levels. No issue with the "can we see us now" stuff. That's good humoured banter. Have you looked at the videos from the weekend. Up to their knees in fenian blood and all crap. Trashing the celtic shop, trashing george's square. There's even one lad having a w**k while the mob encourage him. That's the levels you're dealing with here.

I'm not going to stand up for clowns throwing stones at a bus but don't anyone try to tell me that both sides are equal. They're not and they never have been.
Up to their knees in fenian blood vs Songs about Lee Rigby & Mountbatten.  Seems equal enough to me.

I've said it before. Never heard Celtic fans sing about Mountbatten but don't see why you've any reason to lie about it. Can't excuse either but sings about Mountbatten or Lee Rigby are hardly favourites or sang often unlike the Billy boys. Hardly a like for like comparison
Alright then, what about the Pro IRA songs and IRA chants at Celtic Park.  Is that a close enough 'likeness'?

paddyjohn

A guy w**king himself , a guy shiting himself , a guy pissing himself , guys cutting about with stauners , guys stealing , guys kicking f**k out each other , guys smashing up benches , guys smashing up shops , guys blowing themselves up with fireworks

Different club. Same fans.


bennydorano

Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 06:48:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 10, 2021, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 03:06:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on March 10, 2021, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on March 10, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 10, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Just saying like its great to see the smiles on the faces of children and ordinary decent teddy bears in the context of a sporting victory achieved in some style against the backdrop of covid and a 10 year journey from the bottom tier of Scottish football. Hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

Except they aren't smiling. 6th Sam summarised it very well earlier. Its anger and gloating and carnage and woe betide anyone who dares call them out. Its behaving like thugs and then refusing to own it. It's mock sympathy in the form of vile chanting for the victims of child abuse while conveniently ignoring the victims who were abused within the walls of Ibrox (one was abused in the managers office ffs). They only ever want to own the good stuff. The bad stuff is always someone else's fault. Totally accepting Celtic's shameful past in this regard to this day the huns haven't apologised for the abuse at the hands of their coaches. Only a few years ago they told one victim who was seeking redress to contact the old club as it was nothing to do with them. Its an old club when they are counting titles but a new club when it comes to addressing liabilities. They can't have it both ways.

I repeat what I said previously. There is no old firm. Celtic want nothing to do with them and who could blame them.
Funny how you reference gloating (Can you see the Rangers etc) and thuggery (Supporters throwing stones at their own team's bus) without even a hint of irony!

There's different levels. No issue with the "can we see us now" stuff. That's good humoured banter. Have you looked at the videos from the weekend. Up to their knees in fenian blood and all crap. Trashing the celtic shop, trashing george's square. There's even one lad having a w**k while the mob encourage him. That's the levels you're dealing with here.

I'm not going to stand up for clowns throwing stones at a bus but don't anyone try to tell me that both sides are equal. They're not and they never have been.
Up to their knees in fenian blood vs Songs about Lee Rigby & Mountbatten.  Seems equal enough to me.

I've said it before. Never heard Celtic fans sing about Mountbatten but don't see why you've any reason to lie about it. Can't excuse either but sings about Mountbatten or Lee Rigby are hardly favourites or sang often unlike the Billy boys. Hardly a like for like comparison
Alright then, what about the Pro IRA songs and IRA chants at Celtic Park.  Is that a close enough 'likeness'?
Maybe at away games, has been proactively tackled at home games on pain of losing season tickets. Quite a high profile campaign about it too.

ned

Original debate started around some posters feeling the need to congratulate Rangers. Other posters pointed out why they won't congratulate them. Their fans showed in abundance this weekend the reason why most are loathe to countenance it.
They won the league by a margin and could have celebrated accordingly. However, the fans and team/club decided to break covid restriction regulations and to cause destruction and despair in Glasgow especially.
All the false equivalence thrown about does not detract from the sheer loathsome nature of their celebrations. Only one set of fans did that.
And only one set of fans and one club elicited the quotes below.


This has to be said about Rangers, as a Scottish Football club they are a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace. This country would be a better place if Rangers did not exist." Ian Archer (Scottish journalist, 1970s)

"The incessant bigoted chanting by Rangers fans at Hampden was shocking. Unarguably the most socially-backward fans in British football. The really damaging thing for RFC is, it's not the mythical 'small minority'. There appear to be 1000s upon 1000s singing these songs."
Graham Spiers (Journalist and Rangers fan) on his Twitter feed commenting on their league cup final appearance (March 2011)

I'd just come from Italy and France which are catholic countries,very warm and friendly,and here I was in Glasgow with some of my team-mates [i.e. fellow Rangers players] hating catholics. I just couldn't understand it and frankly found it ridiculous."
Ray Wilkins on an ESPN documentary said about Rangers (June 2007)

Walter Smith, a two-time former manager of the club, once said to me: "There is a Protestant superiority syndrome around this club . . . you can feel it."
Graham Spiers quoting Walter Smith (taken from his book on Paul Le Guen's time at Rangers, 2007)

"I was reluctant to entertain exposing my family to the risk of a recurrence of the bigotry that I had encountered in my playing days... Cathy's religion [she was Catholic] would probably have been enough in itself to convince me that returning to Rangers was not a good idea."
Alex Ferguson (ex-Rangers player) on why he turned down advances to take over Rangers managers role

"The principal muck-spreader was Willie Allison, the bigoted public relations officer, who clearly felt that anybody married to a Catholic was not a fit and proper person to play for Rangers. Allison was a religious bigot of the deepest dye. I had a thoroughly Protestant upbringing but, of course, Cathy is Catholic and so were my mother's family."
Alex Ferguson (ex-Rangers player) on Rangers

To the Rangers fans: "Stay and vomit in your own home, urinate in the corner of your own sitting room, fight with your own neighbours Celtic (who deserve a medal for putting up with you) and foul the streets of Glasgow. Don't come back to Barcelona, you're an embarrassment. And while we're at it, don't play in the Champions League. You're not up to scratch, either on a sporting or human level.
There are noisy supports who, even though they drink large quantities of beer, make friends. Not you lot, because you turn everywhere you go into dumps. You are undesirables."
El Mundo Deportivo Newspaper on Rangers after the Rangers game v Barcelona in the Nou Camp (Nov 07)

The people in that CCTV footage acted like a pack of wolves. Whatever happened earlier there was no excuse for this level of violence. "
Assistant Chief Constable Justine Curran, the match commander during Rangers' shame in the UEFA Cup Final "Battle of Piccadilly" in Manchester

"The SPL needs Rangers. Few SPL chairmen came out in support of Rangers and that took me by surprise. We used to make a joke at Ibrox: 'We are Rangers, super Rangers, no-one likes us, we don't care . . .' But I hadn't quite appreciated, prior to this, the degree to which people didn't like Rangers, right across the board."
"I don't know the exact answer to that. I have said, and I will say again, that maybe I bear a part of the responsibility for it. In the great days at Rangers we did lord it a bit, there's no doubt about that. "Looking back on it now, I think that was wrong. Someone once said, 'never kick a man when you're on the way up, because you might meet him when you're on the way down.' I think that has been a classic case with Rangers."
Donald Findlay (ex-Rangers board member)

What the rest of the world will never understand unless they experience it first hand is that Rangers Football Club is a religion, in itself, built on centuries of religious bigotry." The former director also accused Police Scotland of being "an establishment institution which itself is deeply rooted and immersed in Rangers Football Club's history for well over 140 years".
"I firmly believe Police Scotland have their own agenda and are deeply emotionally connected to Rangers Football Club. In my view Police Scotland have a clear conflict of interest."
Ex-Sevco Director Imran Ahmed (2015)