FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

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thewobbler

Quote from: BennyCake on June 02, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Very few Catholics in the North (except Marty Clarke maybe) give a toss about the NI team.
This is only actually the case if you're referring to GAA-loving Catholics from close to the border. Northern Ireland is a small place, but it's not as a smallminded as you perceive.

michaelg

Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2013, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 02, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 02, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Very few Catholics in the North (except Marty Clarke maybe) give a toss about the NI team.
This is only actually the case if you're referring to GAA-loving Catholics from close to the border. Northern Ireland is a small place, but it's not as a smallminded as you perceive.
What?

Call it small minded or whatever you want but I'd say his comment is very true. I don't think I've ever met "one of our lot" who has had any interest in the NI team. Surely it is very rare.
What about in 1982 and 1986 when the team was doing well?

michaelg

Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2013, 10:03:40 PM
I wasn't born then.
Although you don't have any real interest in the NI team, would you want them to lose / support the opposition team when they are playing?

muppet

Quote from: michaelg on June 02, 2013, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2013, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 02, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 02, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Very few Catholics in the North (except Marty Clarke maybe) give a toss about the NI team.
This is only actually the case if you're referring to GAA-loving Catholics from close to the border. Northern Ireland is a small place, but it's not as a smallminded as you perceive.
What?

Call it small minded or whatever you want but I'd say his comment is very true. I don't think I've ever met "one of our lot" who has had any interest in the NI team. Surely it is very rare.
What about in 1982 and 1986 when the team was doing well?

There was widespread support in the 26 those years.
MWWSI 2017

michaelg

Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: michaelg on June 02, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2013, 10:03:40 PM
I wasn't born then.
Although you don't have any real interest in the NI team, would you want them to lose / support the opposition team when they are playing?
Couldn't care most of the time. Just expect them to be beaten really. Was glad when they beat the Brits though. I went to see them at Windsor twice a couple of years ago. Czech Rep and Israel. Wasn't bothered who won.

Most people I know like to see them beat I think.
How did you find Windsor Park?  Was it the cauldron of hate that most people on here seem to think it is?

BennyCake

Quote from: michaelg on June 02, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2013, 10:03:40 PM
I wasn't born then.
Although you don't have any real interest in the NI team, would you want them to lose / support the opposition team when they are playing?

Yes and yes.

trileacman

Have one mate who would admit to supporting them, the rest couldn't give a shite with a select few who openly despise them.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

red hander

Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 02, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
Then why is Michael O Neill managing Norn Iron - a catholic, was that not suppose to be enhance more players to declare for the North and not the Republic...

Yes, I suppose MON's appointment was to try and recruit more catholic players, but it's far too late. The horse bolted decades ago. The IFA were told years ago about the situation between NI and it's fans/players, and they did nothing to make Catholics feel more welcome. Very few Catholics in the North (except Marty Clarke maybe) give a toss about the NI team. And fewer and fewer Catholics want to represent a team with bigoted scumbags supporters giving them abuse, standing for an anthem and flag that is alien to them. Not only that, but if a player/fan doesn't even recognise the country/state/province of NI, then why would they play for or support them?

I'd agree, the whole shite with Death threats to Lennon , Paddy McCourt in the past, hardly gives a great image.
Probaly was too late when O Neill took over.

32 County team would be a great solution, but far too much politics.

We already have a 32-county team, they play their home games at Lansdowne Road, have players from all four provinces and supporters from all 32 counties

rodney trotter

Quote from: red hander on June 03, 2013, 12:37:24 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 02, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
Then why is Michael O Neill managing Norn Iron - a catholic, was that not suppose to be enhance more players to declare for the North and not the Republic...

Yes, I suppose MON's appointment was to try and recruit more catholic players, but it's far too late. The horse bolted decades ago. The IFA were told years ago about the situation between NI and it's fans/players, and they did nothing to make Catholics feel more welcome. Very few Catholics in the North (except Marty Clarke maybe) give a toss about the NI team. And fewer and fewer Catholics want to represent a team with bigoted scumbags supporters giving them abuse, standing for an anthem and flag that is alien to them. Not only that, but if a player/fan doesn't even recognise the country/state/province of NI, then why would they play for or support them?

I'd agree, the whole shite with Death threats to Lennon , Paddy McCourt in the past, hardly gives a great image.
Probaly was too late when O Neill took over.

32 County team would be a great solution, but far too much politics.

We already have a 32-county team, they play their home games at Lansdowne Road, have players from all four provinces and supporters from all 32 counties

They play at the Aviva, I was talking about a united Irish team. Anyways it will never happen.

ranch

Quote from: rodney trotter on June 03, 2013, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: red hander on June 03, 2013, 12:37:24 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 02, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
Then why is Michael O Neill managing Norn Iron - a catholic, was that not suppose to be enhance more players to declare for the North and not the Republic...

Yes, I suppose MON's appointment was to try and recruit more catholic players, but it's far too late. The horse bolted decades ago. The IFA were told years ago about the situation between NI and it's fans/players, and they did nothing to make Catholics feel more welcome. Very few Catholics in the North (except Marty Clarke maybe) give a toss about the NI team. And fewer and fewer Catholics want to represent a team with bigoted scumbags supporters giving them abuse, standing for an anthem and flag that is alien to them. Not only that, but if a player/fan doesn't even recognise the country/state/province of NI, then why would they play for or support them?

I'd agree, the whole shite with Death threats to Lennon , Paddy McCourt in the past, hardly gives a great image.
Probaly was too late when O Neill took over.

32 County team would be a great solution, but far too much politics.

We already have a 32-county team, they play their home games at Lansdowne Road, have players from all four provinces and supporters from all 32 counties

They play at the Aviva, I was talking about a united Irish team. Anyways it will never happen.

Yeah, Lansdowne Road.

Mikhail Prokhorov

Quote from: rodney trotter on June 03, 2013, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: red hander on June 03, 2013, 12:37:24 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 02, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
Then why is Michael O Neill managing Norn Iron - a catholic, was that not suppose to be enhance more players to declare for the North and not the Republic...

Yes, I suppose MON's appointment was to try and recruit more catholic players, but it's far too late. The horse bolted decades ago. The IFA were told years ago about the situation between NI and it's fans/players, and they did nothing to make Catholics feel more welcome. Very few Catholics in the North (except Marty Clarke maybe) give a toss about the NI team. And fewer and fewer Catholics want to represent a team with bigoted scumbags supporters giving them abuse, standing for an anthem and flag that is alien to them. Not only that, but if a player/fan doesn't even recognise the country/state/province of NI, then why would they play for or support them?

I'd agree, the whole shite with Death threats to Lennon , Paddy McCourt in the past, hardly gives a great image.
Probaly was too late when O Neill took over.

32 County team would be a great solution, but far too much politics.

We already have a 32-county team, they play their home games at Lansdowne Road, have players from all four provinces and supporters from all 32 counties

They play at the Aviva, I was talking about a united Irish team. Anyways it will never happen.

my god rodney, you def live up to your name, Aviva ffs  ::)

rodney trotter

#3011
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on June 03, 2013, 01:33:42 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 03, 2013, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: red hander on June 03, 2013, 12:37:24 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 02, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
Then why is Michael O Neill managing Norn Iron - a catholic, was that not suppose to be enhance more players to declare for the North and not the Republic...

Yes, I suppose MON's appointment was to try and recruit more catholic players, but it's far too late. The horse bolted decades ago. The IFA were told years ago about the situation between NI and it's fans/players, and they did nothing to make Catholics feel more welcome. Very few Catholics in the North (except Marty Clarke maybe) give a toss about the NI team. And fewer and fewer Catholics want to represent a team with bigoted scumbags supporters giving them abuse, standing for an anthem and flag that is alien to them. Not only that, but if a player/fan doesn't even recognise the country/state/province of NI, then why would they play for or support them?

I'd agree, the whole shite with Death threats to Lennon , Paddy McCourt in the past, hardly gives a great image.
Probaly was too late when O Neill took over.

32 County team would be a great solution, but far too much politics.

We already have a 32-county team, they play their home games at Lansdowne Road, have players from all four provinces and supporters from all 32 counties

They play at the Aviva, I was talking about a united Irish team. Anyways it will never happen.

my god rodney, you def live up to your name, Aviva ffs  ::)

As you be, I'm only calling it whats its called now, not something its no longer called. Get with the times

AZOffaly

It's the Aviva, but it is still on Lansdowne Road, so ye are both right. They still play at Lansdowne Road, in a stadium called the Aviva.

NAG1

Never mind that, did anyone actually watch the match?

Absolute and utter tripe from both sides, were the Irish boys on the lash before the game?

ballinaman

Quote from: NAG1 on June 03, 2013, 01:05:19 PM
Never mind that, did anyone actually watch the match?

Absolute and utter tripe from both sides, were the Irish boys on the lash before the game?
Thought Wes Hoolahan did well, he can keep the ball on the deck at least. Surely the last we've seen of Andy Keogh, dire stuff. Hendrick looks to be a big strong lad. Our strongest team at the moment IMO would be
                    Forde
Coleman, OShea, Dunne, Wilson
McGeady, McCarthy,Andrews, McClean
                Hoolahan
                   Long
Walters close to a start too. We've actually a decent enough 11 if f**king Trapp got his head out of his arse.