GAA record revenues..... why?

Started by thewobbler, February 11, 2020, 01:27:03 PM

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Rossfan

Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
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Blowitupref

Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 11, 2020, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 11, 2020, 03:05:45 PM
All that money at HQ yet there is still a number of counties all outside division 1 that are breaking their backs with their fundraising just to keep their heads above water.

Counties are spending far too much on their county teams even those in Div 4.

It's the cost to compete nowadays.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

manfromdelmonte


Eamonnca1

Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!

Could not agree more. If the GAA were losing money hand over fist they'd be on here complaining about incompetent management. Instead it's raking in the money, most of which is redistributed to the counties and clubs, and they're whinging about that.

Is it any wonder I take a drink?

Eamonnca1

Quote from: thewobbler on February 11, 2020, 01:27:03 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/0211/1114542-gaa-announce-record-revenue-of-73-9-million-for-2019/

This is not why the GAA was conceived.

Is it not about time that we all began motioning central council, that the GAA should strive to reduce revenues?

Why was it conceived then? Would you prefer it if the association ran at a loss?

Eamonnca1

Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown

What's this development for?

Guess.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Taylor on February 11, 2020, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.

Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.

Strangely enough GAA wages & salaries have increased by over 8% YOY  ???

How many people are employed full time by Croke Park? There'd be more people working in a supermarket.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.

Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.

Oh please. You make it sound like there's a board of directors getting million Euro bonuses. Once overheads are paid, the rest of the revenue is reinvested back into the counties and the clubs. They're also open about their finances. The annual report is published on the GAA's website every year. You can go and read it right now.

If you read Mike Moynihan's book GAAconomics you'll see how the GAA does things that no other sports organization does, like playing All-Ireland final games at lower grades in Croke Park even though a tiny crowd shows up to watch. Those events run at a loss, but they do it for social reasons because of the honour of playing in Croke Parl.

"Grab All Association" my ass. Save your outrage for the GPA. They're the boys who go around openly bragging about the millions of dollars they're going to raise with their smash-and-grab trips to the US.

johnnycool

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 11, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: five points on February 11, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Geese and golden eggs come to mind. As for the idea that the GAA is filthy cash rich, it will be until the day the next billion-euro-plus version of Croke Park is needed. And that day is fast approaching. Liam Mulvihill said in the 1990s that the new stadium would have an average expected useful life of 35 years. The Cusack Stand is 25 years into that cycle. The bums-on-seats stadium industry has its limits.

Duno bout this, Croke Park is only filled maybe 3 times a year? (For GAA).

Think they'll go down the road of regional development. Maybe throw cash at other counties as a way of suppressing the 'Dublin Problem'.

Didn't read the entire article but what is the profit margin?

It's great having big revenues but if it's being spunked out the back door then that's a different set of questions that need to be asked.

macdanger2

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown

What's this development for?

Guess.

Eh, I don't know. That's why I asked. Thanks for your input though

Taylor

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 11, 2020, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.

Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.

Strangely enough GAA wages & salaries have increased by over 8% YOY  ???

How many people are employed full time by Croke Park? There'd be more people working in a supermarket.

Brave supermarket paying out over €5m a year

From the Bunker

Figures are up because of Mayo Making the Super 8's and making it to semi-final stage. As well as an All Ireland Football final replay. The Hurling continues to be a success and is a real competition among the Elite of that sport. This is what the Corporate GAA hopes to have with the football tier system. The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.

thewobbler

I'd think the real story of the GAA (football) in recent years is one of seeing routinely empty stadiums on TV, and don't forget it's only the big games that make it on TV.

Revenue might be increasing, but if footfall is dropping, then you have to question the strategy. These games can not expand internationally to replace the void. It has to come from within.

They may blame Dublin's dominance. They may blame football tactics. They may be right too. But combining extra county games with an aggressive pricing strategy, against this backdrop, well there's the main story as far as I'm concerned.

And once someone gets away from the habit of forking out £25 to watch a county team, it's a remarkably difficult habit to pick up again.

Which of course leads players to question why they train all winter long; to play in largely empty, soulless championship matches, where the result often is an irrelevance, as both sides go through, or sometimes one is just happy to end their season. And the more who question it, the more who'll step away. Which in turn leads to smaller crowds, and more players stepping away.

That's the circle of descent.

We are on it.

But revenue is up.

f**k revenue.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: johnnycool on February 11, 2020, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 11, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: five points on February 11, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Geese and golden eggs come to mind. As for the idea that the GAA is filthy cash rich, it will be until the day the next billion-euro-plus version of Croke Park is needed. And that day is fast approaching. Liam Mulvihill said in the 1990s that the new stadium would have an average expected useful life of 35 years. The Cusack Stand is 25 years into that cycle. The bums-on-seats stadium industry has its limits.

Duno bout this, Croke Park is only filled maybe 3 times a year? (For GAA).

Think they'll go down the road of regional development. Maybe throw cash at other counties as a way of suppressing the 'Dublin Problem'.

Didn't read the entire article but what is the profit margin?

It's great having big revenues but if it's being spunked out the back door then that's a different set of questions that need to be asked.

"Spunked out the back door?" What does this mean?

Eamonnca1

Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown

What's this development for?

Guess.

Eh, I don't know. That's why I asked. Thanks for your input though

As stated in black and white, I would imagine it's for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown."