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Armagh have been playing division 3 football for two years. You're expecting too much. If the talent was there, that wouldn't have happened. Armagh have played 14 division 3 games in 2 years and won 9 of them.

That 2014 side which knocked Tyrone out was the last decent outfit. You had two Kernans, Clarke and Mallon.

It's just a dip in the talent pool, systems or none.

And it's fcukin glorious.
Schadenfreude is lovely but it doesn't win all Irelands. Neither does groupthink.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-one-knows-where-tyrone-are-at-sean-cavanagh-hoping-to-see-impact-of-stephen-oneill-in-red-hand-attack-36915715.html
"Mickey's certainly the boss," Cavanagh responds when asked whether players have an input in team meetings. "No, no, you don't stand up, no. Mickey's very single-minded in his approach and I think anyone who knows him (feels the same)."

Cavanagh details "quite an autocratic style" of leadership during Harte's lengthy reign and doubts whether Tyrone will adopt a more attacking approach against Monaghan following their harrowing All-Ireland SFC semi-final loss to Dublin last August.

Would he have sacrificed an Ulster title to play more expansive football?

"It's easy to say it now but at the time, genuinely, and this is the big thing, when you're an inter-county footballer, and Mickey is a very convincing manager as well, whenever you're in that zone, you think nothing else but what Mickey is telling you.

"It's only on reflection afterwards that you realise that you would have liked maybe to try something different. At the time I was 100pc convinced that we'd win an All-Ireland last year.

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Hurling Discussion / Re: 2018 Joe McDonagh Cup
« on: May 19, 2018, 09:36:47 PM »
Have to say the coverage of this all week in the Irish News has been hysterical. I listened to a podcast about the game and it seems the game was actually played in a good spirit. Yes there were a number of serious injuries, one in particular which was off the ball. The ref dealt with the perpetrators and they have been suspended as per rule. There is no more to it than that. No one wants to see players badly injured but lets not be stoking things up.
Worst behaved County team I’ve seen in years. Antrim lads being called “British b**tards” as they left the field at half time says plenty about the mindset.
That is despicable

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McGeeney looked a bit beaten at the end.

Zero wins in 4 Ulster championship campaigns so far. Not the greatest stat to have.
Armagh are just one of the  bigger teams who are lost.

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RTE

62 mins Fermanagh 0-11 Armagh 0-06

Seamus Quigley fists over a point when a goal was possibly on but that was the right option. Fermanagh have a five-point lead to protect against 14 men with eight minutes to go.


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Armagh 6 points down and 1 man down.

Cannot see any way back.
Look on the bright side Orior. Some new golf courses on the qualifier circuit

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Hurling Discussion / Re: 2018 Joe McDonagh Cup
« on: May 19, 2018, 05:54:14 PM »
What makes the competition interesting is the frequency of matches. The teams with the best panels have a huge advantage.
Carlow and Antrim are both on 4 along with Westmeath who have a game in hand

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0519/964652-nolans-late-burst-keeps-carlow-in-mcdonagh-contention/
 

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 19, 2018, 05:52:37 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/may/19/ed-sheeran-denounces-use-of-song-in-anti-abortion-campaign-in-ireland

Ireland’s referendum has attracted interest from groups from around the world seeking to influence the vote. A significant proportion of Facebook posts aimed at influencing voters were shown to have come from pages managed partly or entirely outside Ireland. Even some groups registered with Ireland’s ethics watchdog, the Standards In Public Office Commission, had Facebook pages managed from abroad.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: May 18, 2018, 07:28:12 PM »
The NRA is responsible for all of them. It bans all moves to rationalise US gun laws.

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling championship 2018
« on: May 18, 2018, 05:57:37 PM »
This is a big year for Tipp. They were very close last year

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: May 18, 2018, 05:53:02 PM »
Anyway the Brits started the term as they called their 2 most popular brands of football "Soccer" from Association and "Rugger".
Of all the people I know only 1 regularly calls the 11 aside stuff "football" but he's from feckin Athlone so enuf said.
Do you ever read any Neil Francis columns? He often throws in the line "then Ireland starting playing football" or "they know how to play football"
Jaysus

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General discussion / Re: Paddy Jackson apology
« on: May 18, 2018, 05:36:26 PM »
Jackson's application for costs was heard today.  The judge deferred her judgement and said that due to work pressures she wouldn't deliver a judgement in the near future.  Jackson's QC stated in support of his application that Jackson "had no employment and no offers of employment".
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/may/04/paddy-jackson-stuart-olding-ulster-rugby-acquittals

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: May 18, 2018, 05:19:49 PM »
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Where did you get the 98% figure? The official name of the sport across the water is football the Captain is right. The term Soccer nothing more than a nickname.

In fairness I think I agree with Rossfan for once. 98% is obviously made up, but most GAA people call soccer soccer, and football is Gaelic Football.
There were several variations of football back in the 1860s so the sport became known as association football. 

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Just read this in the Irish News

Tyrone have won six of the last seven Championship meetings with the Farney county.

Can anyone remember when we last met them in Omagh in the first round?

That full forward line will take a lot of watching and you imagine you'll see a lot of high ball kicked in to test our FB line early on. I can see us revert to a very defensive system for the first half at least as that FF line has goals in them and they can all win their own ball so I can't see them being left one on one much.

We will find it much harder to kick long ball into our FF line and so I can see us reverting back to a running game with a lot more off the shoulder passing that we saw in the league.
If Monaghan score a goal early on and Lee Brennan has to go off injured then who do we look to on the bench? Hmmm. Ronan O'Neill?

I'm only reading Sean Cavanagh's article now. I agree with him about us reverting to how we played last year.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-one-knows-where-tyrone-are-at-sean-cavanagh-hoping-to-see-impact-of-stephen-oneill-in-red-hand-attack-36915715.html

For all but one of Sean Cavanagh's 16 seasons with Tyrone, he served the one master and the former Red Hand captain knows a little more about Mickey Harte than most.

"Mickey's certainly the boss," Cavanagh responds when asked whether players have an input in team meetings. "No, no, you don't stand up, no. Mickey's very single-minded in his approach and I think anyone who knows him (feels the same)."

Cavanagh details "quite an autocratic style" of leadership during Harte's lengthy reign and doubts whether Tyrone will adopt a more attacking approach against Monaghan following their harrowing All-Ireland SFC semi-final loss to Dublin last August.

Former Footballer of the Year Stephen O'Neill was drafted into the backroom team by Harte to add a fresh attacking impetus and his influence has been lauded but Cavanagh questions whether they will revert to type when the pressure comes on.

"I've heard decent reports that Stevie's having a bit of input on the training ground so you would hope that that's starting to show. Some of the scores they put up during the league, you would hope that's the hallmarks of that work," the Moy clubman says.

"Sunday will tell the tale. It's only when you're put into that championship game where Mickey feels threatened, it'll be interesting to see if he reverts to what he knows or whether he goes and pushes that bit more.

"No one really knows exactly where this Tyrone team is at the moment. Most people don't like the idea of Tyrone continuing to defend as much as we had been doing, so everyone is waiting on unleashing another couple of attackers or a new formation."

Would he have sacrificed an Ulster title to play more expansive football?

"It's easy to say it now but at the time, genuinely, and this is the big thing, when you're an inter-county footballer, and Mickey is a very convincing manager as well, whenever you're in that zone, you think nothing else but what Mickey is telling you.

"It's only on reflection afterwards that you realise that you would have liked maybe to try something different. At the time I was 100pc convinced that we'd win an All-Ireland last year.

"I'm getting to see with the bit of media work that I'm doing, you realise that as a player you take offence so easily. When someone tries to run down your team or you personally, you think automatically and assume they're out to get you and have an agenda.

"When you take a step back out of it all you do see the other see and realise that it's not always the case and that some people outside of your bubble are right and you're not right."

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The five-time All-Star expects a cagey affair similar to last Sunday's Galway/Mayo slugfest with exciting attackers Lee Brennan and Mark Bradley likely to lead the line against the Farney men in the Ulster SFC quarter-final tie on home soil in Omagh.

His former team-mate Conor Gormley was firm in his belief that the Red Hand are lacking marquee forwards but Cavanagh disagrees and feels many quality attackers have gone by the wayside as a result of the system employed, name-checking the likes of Ronan O'Neill, Darren McCurry, Kyle Coney and Niall McKenna.

"We haven't really played with any structure in the forward unit, that's probably the best way of putting it. There's been a flood of guys who probably have suffered because we haven't played with six attackers," the 35-year-old outlines.

"And some of those guys have obviously fallen away and aren't on the panel anymore. That's probably not all their own fault. If I'm honest, it's just the way the system, or the type of football, has gone. Some of those type of players have suffered.

"Some of those guys I would have called marquee, and thought they would be marquee. But because they never had that room to breathe and because some of them couldn't cope with having to spend more time on the bench, because we were going towards a certain type of player, they struggled.

"They were victims of the system, that's exactly what they were. It's sad that, because some of them have as much talent or possibly more talent than some of the older (guys), the guys that were on some of the older teams that myself and Conor played on.

"But they just haven't been given that opportunity to play, which is just tough. Quite a number of those players are forward players that have gone through confidence issues that if they'd been playing in a system that....you know, Tyrone naturally don't kick the ball much.

"And then being pulled ashore and fall down the pecking order. They're all there and you should see some of the stuff they do at training but unfortunately they don't have the confidence or don't have the... are maybe not stuck with the same way when the game would be 15 v 15.

"When things aren't going well there's a temptation for Mickey to go for a different style of player, a style of player that works hard and labours around the midfield and that can run the ball quick through the hands."
Mickey has similarities with Arsene Wenger. 3 titles quite a while ago, a long period in charge and the team some way off the required standard. Or maybe not. Let's see on Sunday

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