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Never thought I'd say that but the dubs hammering everyone is a real turn off


Especially when it is structural

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0813/984824-the-awkward-irony-of-gaas-attendance-problem/



On the eve of Dublin's defeat to Westmeath in the 2004 Leinster championship, the Irish Independent carried an article entitled 'Shock Dubs defeat would spell disaster for Croke Park'. 
The article made plain that Dublin were "the top money spinners, so if they were to lose tomorrow and crash out of the All-Ireland qualifiers at an early stage, it would have serious repercussions for the GAA's finances which are already under severe pressure due to the 100 million Croke Park debt."
Quoted extensively in the article, then Leinster Council chairman Michael Delaney was surprisingly open about admitting that the GAA financial position would be immeasurably healthier if Dublin did not to slip up against Westmeath.   

It was in this context that the well documented funding splurge in Dublin GAA was commenced, as addressed by Tom Ryan, Sean Kelly and Paraic Duffy in recent years. 

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0417/955246-10-questions-for-the-gaas-new-director-general/
The first thing Iíve always said to people about Dublin is that the money is going into clubs in that county, not into the county set-up. Now clearly thereís a correlation and clearly the fact that county teams are doing well is a function of what the clubs are doing.
"There was a bit of rebalancing and we did adjust Dublin a little bit but the job was always to augment funding elsewhere. So Belfast is a case in point. Itís the second city on the island and it behooves us to make sure that Gaelic games is in a healthy state there.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gavreilly/status/821780029310898178/video/1

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The Bomber should be let back in for a few weeks. There is very little craic from the Tyrone boys

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 13, 2018, 07:20:18 PM »
There's not really that much pressure on Tyrone. Dublin are enormous favorites and rightly so, so having been narrowly beaten in Omagh won't put more pressure on us.

There is always pressure on an AI final team.

There is always pressure, but not as much if we were going into a game as favourites or even a decent outside bet. The main point I was making was that having a decent ten minute spell at the end of hte game in Omagh in what wasn't a knock out game doesn't add any more pressure. It will instead be something that the team can look towards as something they can work with.
Mickey Harte didnít just win 3 all Irelands with a county that had none. He also built notions. Such as that it would always be like this. There would always be Mugsys and Doohers. Tyrone could avoid the fate of lesser counties such as Meath and Galway who actually lost all Ireland finals.
It was good while it lasted. Meath have 7,by the way.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 13, 2018, 06:48:18 PM »
There's not really that much pressure on Tyrone. Dublin are enormous favorites and rightly so, so having been narrowly beaten in Omagh won't put more pressure on us.
The whole county will expect. Excitement levels rise with flags everywhere. The schools join in the fun. A huge day out in Dublin and a long drive home-nobody wants them to be disappointed . So no pressure.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 13, 2018, 08:36:43 AM »
If I don't see photos in the paper of sheep painted white and red in going to be very disappointed. Any word yet of a song?

https://youtu.be/rRN08dfQIn8

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Ya can talk about Mayo 2017, Galway 2001 etc till the cows come home. The simple fact of the matter is it's August. Galway don't do football after July anymore. To worried about racing and festivals and posing up and down shop street to be worried about football this time of year

Dear dear dear. Like saying Mayo don't do football after August anymore.

Its not really thou, is it.

I don't know. Galway fans seem happy with it so who am I to say different but Kevin Walsh has been in charge of Galway for 4 years and despite beating Mayo in 3 of them, they haven't performed in one single game after July. ie the serious end of the championship. In fact they have played 5 games in August under his reign and have lost by a combined total of 44 points.
So what. Neither team have won anything. Losing is losing.
Mayo were very unlucky to blossom at the same time as the Dubs. Maybe Galway might nick a Sam after the collapse.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 13, 2018, 08:20:22 AM »
Limerick in 2007 and Waterford in 2008 never recovered from the hammerings the Kilkenny 4 in a row teams gave them in all Ireland finals. Tyrone probably need a year or two more but they have just a few weeks.
Limerick were comprehensively beaten but not hammered. They pretty much fluked their way through to the final that year anyway and few expected them to get back there.

In reality Waterford were already on a downward slide by 2008. They actually got pretty close to Kilkenny in the semi-final the following year.

Last year's hammering is something for Tyrone to learn from. They are not going in under any illusions. That should be an advantage if they have the right mindset.
That is the nature of monopoly. All contenders are neutralised. That Limerick team could have built on what it learnt up to the semifinal but it faded away. So did Waterford. So did Cork too.

TTyrone  would like to win an all Ireland over the next few years. Losing comprehensively in an all Ireland final is usually the definitive judgement on a number of players who might otherwise develop into winners on a different path. The biggest stage, the greatest pressure versus a more measured approach. Maybe Tyrone donít and wonít have the players anyway. But a big loss in the AIF is not a positive development generally.
M

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 12, 2018, 09:46:07 PM »
Limerick in 2007 and Waterford in 2008 never recovered from the hammerings the Kilkenny 4 in a row teams gave them in all Ireland finals. Tyrone probably need a year or two more but they have just a few weeks.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 12, 2018, 06:33:55 PM »
The pope will be over on the 25th so the rosaries will be full throttle. In reality the Dubs can counter any system       

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A Pyrrhic victory for Throne with the Dubz up next

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Absolute clowns saying Mayo of 2017 would have put up more of a fight yesterday. That has as much relevance as us saying the galway 98 team would have beaten Dublin yesterday.

Dead right

How is it dead right FFS , all we were saying was Mayo last year were streets ahead of what Galway showed yesterday , that's dead right make no mistake about that.
Of course they were
Teams have an arc of progress and Mayo were further along but also closer to the end

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I presume the Dubs will win the final. This winter Kerry will be fixated on the unthinkable. The Dubs win the 5 in a row. Nothing would stick in the Kerry craw more than that.  Nobody has ever done it. It is Kerryís birthright,at least in Kerry. Next year should be very interesting. The affairs of empires. 

https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ

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Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , Iím sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.
One of the features of this golden age of Dub football is the absolute bilge written by Dub fans in the interest of implying that the sport is currently competitive. Tyrone do not have the forwards and are at least 3 metric fucktons short of Mayo 2017 in terms of capacity to challenge the Dubs.

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Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!

Nowt funny about it , Mayo 16 and 17 peaked for finals , Galway not near that standard , today proved that to people like me who actually thought Galway were capable .
It took Mayo 6 years to get to the 2016 standard. This is Galwayís first semi. Mayo are meanwhile banjaxed

2011, Mayo win Connacht and get to semi final beating reigning champions Cork.
2012, Mayo win Connacht and get to final beating reigning champions Dublin.
2013, Mayo win Connacht and get to final beating reigning champions Donegal.
2014, Mayo win Connacht and lose semi final replay against Kerry after extra time.

2016, Galway win Connacht and lose heavily in quarter final to Tipperary.
2017, Galway lose heavily to Ross in Connacht final and go out with a whimper to Kerry in quarter final.
2018, Galway win Connacht, beat Kerry in Croke park but end the season with heavy defeats to Monaghan and Dublin.
2019?
I took the first semi as year 1. Could have included 2010 v Longford as well I suppose

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Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!

Nowt funny about it , Mayo 16 and 17 peaked for finals , Galway not near that standard , today proved that to people like me who actually thought Galway were capable .
It took Mayo 6 years to get to the 2016 standard. This is Galwayís first semi. Mayo are meanwhile banjaxed

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