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Title: GAA Referees
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2014, 05:19:32 PM
May be a topic already about this, and we all go on about how poor the football referees are but the call from the referee in the Kilkenny v Limerick game there in the hurling is absolutely shocking, Man hacked down way worst than what Sean Cavanagh done last year, seemingly inside the area with a deliberate trip with the hurl. ref awards 21m free and does not award a yellow for the tackle. The commentor actually said it should been a red. So what qualities does it take to be a ref, missing the f**king obvious and been blind seems to be a must.  We see on TV the night if they go to town on the delibrate hack down the way they did with Cavanagh last year
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: CD on August 10, 2014, 05:24:09 PM
That sort of thing doesn't go on in hurling so the referee couldn't possibly have seen it.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 10, 2014, 05:25:26 PM
Kilkenny have perfected the blanket defence.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2014, 05:26:20 PM
Oh this was a limerick man with this foul
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Saffrongael on August 10, 2014, 05:27:51 PM
It was outside the 14
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: straightred on August 10, 2014, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 10, 2014, 05:27:51 PM
It was outside the 14

Yeah - think it was but there is no excuse for letting o'Grady off. He even seemed to speak to him so its not as if he didn't know who did it. O'Grady's yellow from earlier could have been a red as well so it was no surprise to see him taken off immediately afterwards
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 05:37:31 PM
It's the beautiful game. You must have been seeing things. Now away with ya back to that unskillful girly game of football!
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: armaghniac on August 10, 2014, 05:44:28 PM
The hurling incident was (just) outside the penalty zone, but should have attracted some sort of card, should it not?
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Hardy on August 10, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
Not even a comment from the studio analysts afterwards. Compare and contrast with Brolly on Cavanagh and the general concentration by the football pundits on avery negative incident in every game.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Syferus on August 10, 2014, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 10, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
Not even a comment from the studio analysts afterwards. Compare and contrast with Brolly on Cavanagh and the general concentration by the football pundits on avery negative incident in every game.

To be fair to ignore it was as bad as many of the things Spillane or Broly have done. Being positive is one thing, ignoring obvious topics is something else. Pundits shouldn't simply be cheerleaders for the sport either.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 10, 2014, 05:58:20 PM
Would Eddie Keher have changed his anti-black card, or anti card of any shade view had Kilkenny lost?  The player wasn't injured by the foul after all.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Syferus on August 10, 2014, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2014, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 10, 2014, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 10, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
Not even a comment from the studio analysts afterwards. Compare and contrast with Brolly on Cavanagh and the general concentration by the football pundits on avery negative incident in every game.

To be fair to ignore it was as bad as many of the things Spillane or Broly have done. Being positive is one thing, ignoring obvious topics is something else. Pundits shouldn't simply be cheerleaders for the sport either.
A man was lucky to avoid a yellow card. Big wow.

A red.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Syferus on August 10, 2014, 06:12:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2014, 06:08:39 PM
Meh, not for me. It was a trip more than a strike.
It was a yellow. Indeed, up until this year it was a yellow in football too.

I mean he was already on a yellow. So the rules properly enforced would have meant Limerick were down to 14 men. I can only imagine the black and amber rage had Limerick won it after that.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2014, 06:20:33 PM
The only reason I can think of is that the referee was not sure who done it, the place was in near darkness the rain was hammering down players were converging, that could be the only reason why he didn't give the yellow, he probably went to him to say he wasn't completely convinced it was him but he's a lucky lad to stay on the pitch, it happens to all referees you can't always be sure, and if he wasn't sure he couldn't 'card' him, was never a red card either and was outside the box.

Now move on, nothing of any note and not surprised a bog ball man would start a thread up on it ;)
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: BluestackBoy on August 10, 2014, 06:23:50 PM
Couldn't have been a Limerick hurler, it was surely a Donegal footballer, they are the source of all evil in the GAA, don't you know
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Syferus on August 10, 2014, 07:18:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2014, 06:39:10 PM
FWIW, Kilkenny could have had a man red carded for pulling the Limerick forward back by the face guard. Shit happens. I certainly prefer the pundits focussing on the positives of a game rather than silly wee things, of which dozens could be argued by either side.

Especially after a fantastic game in horrible conditions where the players deserve a huge amount of credit. I suppose others like to gurn.

Pointing out a glaringly obvious issue isn't equal to not giving the players credit. Again, pundits or viewers aren't cheerleaders. Ignoring something and just giving pats on the back is a problem just as what Spillane and company do is.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 10, 2014, 07:25:44 PM
Same referee made a bigger howler this season against Antrim and the decision cost Antrim a place in the next round.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: AZOffaly on August 10, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2014, 06:08:39 PM
Meh, not for me. It was a trip more than a strike.
It was a yellow. Indeed, up until this year it was a yellow in football too. That was until one of the football pundits totally embarrassed himself with a pathetic hissy fit and character assassination live on tv which lead to a rule change.

I'm sorry but I know which type of punditry I would prefer in our games.

Point of order. The rule change was already passed before Brollys rant.  It was just a handy "I told you so" for him.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: Collie Brolly on August 18, 2014, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2014, 06:08:39 PM
Meh, not for me. It was a trip more than a strike.
It was a yellow. Indeed, up until this year it was a yellow in football too. That was until one of the football pundits totally embarrassed himself with a pathetic hissy fit and character assassination live on tv which lead to a rule change.

I'm sorry but I know which type of punditry I would prefer in our games.

Time for a "Hard" history lesson son.Congress vote in the black card in Spring 2013.
Brollys rant was in August the same year.
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: Collie Brolly on August 18, 2014, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2014, 06:08:39 PM
Meh, not for me. It was a trip more than a strike.
It was a yellow. Indeed, up until this year it was a yellow in football too. That was until one of the football pundits totally embarrassed himself with a pathetic hissy fit and character assassination live on tv which lead to a rule change.

I'm sorry but I know which type of punditry I would prefer in our games.

Time for a "Hard" history lesson son.Congress vote in the black card in Spring 2013.
Brollys rant was in August the same year.

Question for the lads who know the rules of football better than me even if its hurling related;

Donal O'Grady had already been yellow carded before his cynical trip on Richie Power, which in football would have been a black card. As he already had a yellow, could he have been replaced then using the football rules?
Title: Re: GAA Referees
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
No, a yellow card, followed by a black is the equivalent of two yellows, i.e. a Red.