Anyone have any interest in this? Ulster is starting this weekend, not sure about the other provinces. One good thing is that it can be run off earlier as none of the players should be doing final year school exams.
Connacht playing it as curtain raisers with Senior.
However I think the final is set for the Saturday of CF weekend to allow the minor (u18) final be played with the Senior.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 04, 2017, 09:48:44 PM
Connacht playing it as curtain raisers with Senior.
However I think the final is set for the Saturday of CF weekend to allow the minor (u18) final be played with the Senior.
Yep. I'll probably be early enough to see the u17s ahainst Sligo.
Isn't the U17 Minor now and the U18s just a once off to over players born in 1999?
Connacht are having a minor championship and a u17 championship this year.
That's happening everywhere else too.
Quote from: Itchy on May 04, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
Anyone have any interest in this? Ulster is starting this weekend, not sure about the other provinces. One good thing is that it can be run off earlier as none of the players should be doing final year school exams.
What are you talking about! In six of the counties the players will be beginning their AS and GCSE exams on 11th May and some AS units will have begun this week.
Yet again the future of young fellas will have been affected by overdone training schedules leaving them unable to put in the full effort needed in preparation for such a marathon of exams at GCSE and AS levels and then to bring in the games throughout the exam season running from the beginning of May through to the end of June.
Munster U17 football:
QF 1 Tipperary 0-14 Clare 0-10 Semple Stadium Thurles 4 April
QF 2 Cork 6-24 Waterford 0-1 Fraher Field Dungarvan 4 April
SF 1 Kerry 3-11 Tipperary 1-6 Austin Stack Park Tralee 2 May
SF 2 Cork 5-18 Limerick 1-6 Pairc Ui Rinn, Cork 2 May
Final Kerry v Cork Austin Stack Park Tralee @ 7pm on 16 May
Serious scoring by Cork there - 11-42 in 2 games is some haul.
Surely a decent chance Kerry's recent dominance at underage in Munster might come to an end?
Think everyone should support this competition as much as they can - Its unlucky for these lads falling between the new age group cracks but if its well supported it should be a good competition to get a run in.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 05, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
Serious scoring by Cork there - 11-42 in 2 games is some haul.
Surely a decent chance Kerry's recent dominance at underage in Munster might come to an end?
Limerick,Waterford probably very poor and getting no competitive game before facing Kerry isn't ideal preparation.
In this years comp the bigger counties will certainly dominate as the others wont be able to combine an U17 and Minor squad. Expect Donegal and Tyrone to dominate Ulster.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 05, 2017, 03:16:15 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 05, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
Serious scoring by Cork there - 11-42 in 2 games is some haul.
Surely a decent chance Kerry's recent dominance at underage in Munster might come to an end?
Limerick,Waterford probably very poor and getting no competitive game before facing Kerry isn't ideal preparation.
Yeah the two teams were surely not great - Waterford especially but that's still a fairly massive haul of a score to be putting up over two games.
Cork at least had 2 games (however uncompetitive) compared to Kerry's 1 at this level and scored well in both so you'd think there's surely a decent chance of them putting it up to Kerry.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 05, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
In this years comp the bigger counties will certainly dominate as the others wont be able to combine an U17 and Minor squad. Expect Donegal and Tyrone to dominate Ulster.
U17 IS minor from 2018 on.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 04, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 04, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
Anyone have any interest in this? Ulster is starting this weekend, not sure about the other provinces. One good thing is that it can be run off earlier as none of the players should be doing final year school exams.
What are you talking about! In six of the counties the players will be beginning their AS and GCSE exams on 11th May and some AS units will have begun this week.
Yet again the future of young fellas will have been affected by overdone training schedules leaving them unable to put in the full effort needed in preparation for such a marathon of exams at GCSE and AS levels and then to bring in the games throughout the exam season running from the beginning of May through to the end of June.
Didn't know that. Down south u18s were always badly effected by leaving cert. Now most u17s will be one year out from the leaving.
Quote from: Itchy on May 05, 2017, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 04, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 04, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
Anyone have any interest in this? Ulster is starting this weekend, not sure about the other provinces. One good thing is that it can be run off earlier as none of the players should be doing final year school exams.
What are you talking about! In six of the counties the players will be beginning their AS and GCSE exams on 11th May and some AS units will have begun this week.
Yet again the future of young fellas will have been affected by overdone training schedules leaving them unable to put in the full effort needed in preparation for such a marathon of exams at GCSE and AS levels and then to bring in the games throughout the exam season running from the beginning of May through to the end of June.
Didn't know that. Down south u18s were always badly effected by leaving cert. Now most u17s will be one year out from the leaving.
In NI, we have public exams or their modular components every year for the last four years of secondary school. So, moving to u17 is no help, it just makes it worse as it destroys GCSE prospects for all as GCSEs are taken by every student and training takes up vital revision time unlike A levels taken by fewer.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 05, 2017, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 05, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
In this years comp the bigger counties will certainly dominate as the others wont be able to combine an U17 and Minor squad. Expect Donegal and Tyrone to dominate Ulster.
U17 IS minor from 2018 on.
Yeah but smaller counties aren't going to run two full squads simultaneously at a high level. The better players will be in the minors as it takes precedent.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 05, 2017, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 05, 2017, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 04, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 04, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
Anyone have any interest in this? Ulster is starting this weekend, not sure about the other provinces. One good thing is that it can be run off earlier as none of the players should be doing final year school exams.
What are you talking about! In six of the counties the players will be beginning their AS and GCSE exams on 11th May and some AS units will have begun this week.
Yet again the future of young fellas will have been affected by overdone training schedules leaving them unable to put in the full effort needed in preparation for such a marathon of exams at GCSE and AS levels and then to bring in the games throughout the exam season running from the beginning of May through to the end of June.
Didn't know that. Down south u18s were always badly effected by leaving cert. Now most u17s will be one year out from the leaving.
In NI, we have public exams or their modular components every year for the last four years of secondary school. So, moving to u17 is no help, it just makes it worse as it destroys GCSE prospects for all as GCSEs are taken by every student and training takes up vital revision time unlike A levels taken by fewer.
How many subject do ye sit up north? Down south it's 8 or 9. The way you portray the education system up north it doesn't sound like there is ever a good year to play matches. Maybe the gaa went with a system that suits the most people? What is your solution to the issue?
If anyone is interest wearecavan.com doing commentary on Cavan v Derry u17 game.
Quote from: Itchy on May 06, 2017, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 05, 2017, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 05, 2017, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 04, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 04, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
Anyone have any interest in this? Ulster is starting this weekend, not sure about the other provinces. One good thing is that it can be run off earlier as none of the players should be doing final year school exams.
What are you talking about! In six of the counties the players will be beginning their AS and GCSE exams on 11th May and some AS units will have begun this week.
Yet again the future of young fellas will have been affected by overdone training schedules leaving them unable to put in the full effort needed in preparation for such a marathon of exams at GCSE and AS levels and then to bring in the games throughout the exam season running from the beginning of May through to the end of June.
Didn't know that. Down south u18s were always badly effected by leaving cert. Now most u17s will be one year out from the leaving.
In NI, we have public exams or their modular components every year for the last four years of secondary school. So, moving to u17 is no help, it just makes it worse as it destroys GCSE prospects for all as GCSEs are taken by every student and training takes up vital revision time unlike A levels taken by fewer.
How many subject do ye sit up north? Down south it's 8 or 9. The way you portray the education system up north it doesn't sound like there is ever a good year to play matches. Maybe the gaa went with a system that suits the most people? What is your solution to the issue?
10 or 11 subjects at 16 and 4/5 I believe at 17/18. Perhaps some of the teachers can confirm?
Antrim beat armagh and tyrone beat donegal...
Gcses at 16 - usually 9 but couldbe 10 or 11
AS levels at 17 - 3 or 4 subjects
A levels at 18 - 3 or 4 again
At 17 there weren't exams in my day but in the last 10-15 years they have been introduced.
Gaa can't win here as you say itchy.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2017, 02:06:01 PM
Antrim beat armagh and tyrone beat donegal...
Gcses at 16 - usually 9 but couldbe 10 or 11
AS levels at 17 - 3 or 4 subjects
A levels at 18 - 3 or 4 again
At 17 there weren't exams in my day but in the last 10-15 years they have been introduced.
Gaa can't win here as you say itchy.
Reunification!
Cavan bet Derry well.
Tyrone beat Donegal 2-09 to 1-07 with a young lad called Darragh Canavan (apparently his aul boy was half decent) putting on a great performance. Down up next weekend, I think.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 06, 2017, 12:38:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 06, 2017, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 05, 2017, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 05, 2017, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 04, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 04, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
Anyone have any interest in this? Ulster is starting this weekend, not sure about the other provinces. One good thing is that it can be run off earlier as none of the players should be doing final year school exams.
What are you talking about! In six of the counties the players will be beginning their AS and GCSE exams on 11th May and some AS units will have begun this week.
Yet again the future of young fellas will have been affected by overdone training schedules leaving them unable to put in the full effort needed in preparation for such a marathon of exams at GCSE and AS levels and then to bring in the games throughout the exam season running from the beginning of May through to the end of June.
Didn't know that. Down south u18s were always badly effected by leaving cert. Now most u17s will be one year out from the leaving.
In NI, we have public exams or their modular components every year for the last four years of secondary school. So, moving to u17 is no help, it just makes it worse as it destroys GCSE prospects for all as GCSEs are taken by every student and training takes up vital revision time unlike A levels taken by fewer.
How many subject do ye sit up north? Down south it's 8 or 9. The way you portray the education system up north it doesn't sound like there is ever a good year to play matches. Maybe the gaa went with a system that suits the most people? What is your solution to the issue?
10 or 11 subjects at 16 and 4/5 I believe at 17/18. Perhaps some of the teachers can confirm?
Yep. Across the ability range taking from 5 to 11 subjects in Year 11 and 12 for GCSE and then from 2 to 4 subjects at A level and BTEC level in Years 13 and 14.
In NI, the GCSE subjects are now fully modularised over 2 years, so young people at 15/16 are taking exams throughout the two year period, all count towards the GCSE results at the end of 2 years. On top of these there is coursework which has been moved into the school and completed under exam conditions, so an expansion of the number of exams as it must be prepared prior to completion in school. In Years 13 and 14, the modular assessments continue in all subjects and are regular during this time. It is a much different system from RoI which seems still to be end of year exams for Inter and Leaving.
Is there an answer? No. It is made worse by many of the same boys playing MacRory/MacLarnon Cup games from September to March and training for both school and county.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 06, 2017, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 06, 2017, 12:38:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 06, 2017, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 05, 2017, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 05, 2017, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 04, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 04, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
Anyone have any interest in this? Ulster is starting this weekend, not sure about the other provinces. One good thing is that it can be run off earlier as none of the players should be doing final year school exams.
What are you talking about! In six of the counties the players will be beginning their AS and GCSE exams on 11th May and some AS units will have begun this week.
Yet again the future of young fellas will have been affected by overdone training schedules leaving them unable to put in the full effort needed in preparation for such a marathon of exams at GCSE and AS levels and then to bring in the games throughout the exam season running from the beginning of May through to the end of June.
Didn't know that. Down south u18s were always badly effected by leaving cert. Now most u17s will be one year out from the leaving.
In NI, we have public exams or their modular components every year for the last four years of secondary school. So, moving to u17 is no help, it just makes it worse as it destroys GCSE prospects for all as GCSEs are taken by every student and training takes up vital revision time unlike A levels taken by fewer.
How many subject do ye sit up north? Down south it's 8 or 9. The way you portray the education system up north it doesn't sound like there is ever a good year to play matches. Maybe the gaa went with a system that suits the most people? What is your solution to the issue?
10 or 11 subjects at 16 and 4/5 I believe at 17/18. Perhaps some of the teachers can confirm?
Yep. Across the ability range taking from 5 to 11 subjects in Year 11 and 12 for GCSE and then from 2 to 4 subjects at A level and BTEC level in Years 13 and 14.
In NI, the GCSE subjects are now fully modularised over 2 years, so young people at 15/16 are taking exams throughout the two year period, all count towards the GCSE results at the end of 2 years. On top of these there is coursework which has been moved into the school and completed under exam conditions, so an expansion of the number of exams as it must be prepared prior to completion in school. In Years 13 and 14, the modular assessments continue in all subjects and are regular during this time. It is a much different system from RoI which seems still to be end of year exams for Inter and Leaving.
Is there an answer? No. It is made worse by many of the same boys playing MacRory/MacLarnon Cup games from September to March and training for both school and county.
As stated before no reason MacRory can't be run off pre Christmas!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 06, 2017, 09:02:50 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 05, 2017, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 05, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
In this years comp the bigger counties will certainly dominate as the others wont be able to combine an U17 and Minor squad. Expect Donegal and Tyrone to dominate Ulster.
U17 IS minor from 2018 on.
Yeah but smaller counties aren't going to run two full squads simultaneously at a high level. The better players will be in the minors as it takes precedent.
There will be one squad. The minor (u17).
There will be no u 18 after this year.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 06, 2017, 09:43:56 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 06, 2017, 09:02:50 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 05, 2017, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 05, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
In this years comp the bigger counties will certainly dominate as the others wont be able to combine an U17 and Minor squad. Expect Donegal and Tyrone to dominate Ulster.
U17 IS minor from 2018 on.
Yeah but smaller counties aren't going to run two full squads simultaneously at a high level. The better players will be in the minors as it takes precedent.
There will be one squad. The minor (u17).
There will be no u 18 after this year.
I think the point being made is that for 2017 there will be two squads which smaller counties won't really be able to run.
Cavan well up on Antrim in 1st Semi coming up to half time. 5-5 to 1-3.
Cavan win 5-11 to 2-11. Decent fight back by Antrim in 2nd half with a young Brolly to the fore.
Tyrone 0-15 v Down 0-10
Final on June 11th before cavan v Monaghan/Fermanagh ulster championship quarter final. Unfair on Tyrone.
Quote from: Itchy on May 13, 2017, 04:19:45 PM
Final on June 11th before cavan v Monaghan/Fermanagh ulster championship quarter final. Unfair on Tyrone.
Don't think they'll mind too much. Hasn't been too many at the games to date and will be great for the lads to play on a big championship day in front of a good crowd. With no minors next year it's good the players on the last year will get to experience it.
Quote from: Itchy on May 13, 2017, 04:19:45 PM
Final on June 11th before cavan v Monaghan/Fermanagh ulster championship quarter final. Unfair on Tyrone.
Why is unfair on Tyrone ?
Quote from: Samforever on May 13, 2017, 08:54:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 13, 2017, 04:19:45 PM
Final on June 11th before cavan v Monaghan/Fermanagh ulster championship quarter final. Unfair on Tyrone.
Why is unfair on Tyrone ?
There will be a big Cavan support as they playing in the senior game plus very likely game will be in Breffni park.
Does anyone know is the format the same as minor as in two provincial finalists make the quarter finals of the all Ireland series?
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2017, 09:59:08 PM
Does anyone know is the format the same as minor as in two provincial finalists make the quarter finals of the all Ireland series?
I think it's being run on a straight knockout basis with champs straight through to semi finals.
Yeah looks like it's the straight knockout format. It's disappointing for this year's group. There's no coverage at all, even Hoganstand don't even have any sort of match report.
The Ulster Finalists will play on 11th June and then won't be out in the All Ireland Semi Final until 5th of August!
Quote from: Westside on May 15, 2017, 10:49:12 PM
Yeah looks like it's the straight knockout format. It's disappointing for this year's group. There's no coverage at all, even Hoganstand don't even have any sort of match report.
The Ulster Finalists will play on 11th June and then won't be out in the All Ireland Semi Final until 5th of August!
That's crazy!
Yes the AI series is semi finals played on August bank holiday weekend. Connacht v Munster and Ulster v Leinster. AI final to be played August 20th
Kerry bet Cork last night in a game marred by "ugly incidents" and me melees.
I didn't think the purists would be at that sort of thing.
Mayo Sligo game at 11.45. With all due respect, there won't be much of a crowd at that time. Why that early?
In case of extra time I presume and to make sure all is ready for the 2 pm TV live showing.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2017, 11:03:27 AM
In case of extra time I presume and to make sure all is ready for the 2 pm TV live showing.
And this nonsense if level after extra time
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It is on a pilot basis but the Special U17 Football and Hurling Competitions in 2017 and the new U20 Football Championship in 2018 will require to finish 'on the day'.
If teams still can't be separated after two periods of extra time, it moves to the free-taking competition with five nominated free-takers, chosen from those who have played at some stage in the previous 100 minutes, taking shots from the 65-metre line.
For the football competitions, frees will be taken from the 45-metre line. If the teams are still deadlocked after five shots it moves to 'sudden death' until there is a winner.
The first sudden death free is taken by the player who took the first free, and the sudden death element will continue until such time as there is a definite outcome.
There isn't the same level of drama attached to a penalty shootout because it all hinges on one player - the freetaker. Frees will be taken for points only, with no goalkeeper or defenders facing the free- takers, but the GAA missed a trick there.
If the goalkeeper was in play, and the free was going a foot or two over the crossbar, stopping the point - which many go alkeepers are well capable off - would have added to the sense of excitement
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
Kerry bet Cork last night in a game marred by "ugly incidents" and me melees.
I didn't think the purists would be at that sort of thing.
4 yellow cards, a black card and a red card for Cork, none for Kerry but don't let the facts get in your way.
Quote from: blanketattack on May 18, 2017, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
Kerry bet Cork last night in a game marred by "ugly incidents" and me melees.
I didn't think the purists would be at that sort of thing.
4 yellow cards, a black card and a red card for Cork, none for Kerry but don't let the facts get in your way.
What are the facts?
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 07:17:46 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on May 18, 2017, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
Kerry bet Cork last night in a game marred by "ugly incidents" and me melees.
I didn't think the purists would be at that sort of thing.
4 yellow cards, a black card and a red card for Cork, none for Kerry but don't let the facts get in your way.
What are the facts?
Yes, exactly.
Quote from: blanketattack on May 18, 2017, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
Kerry bet Cork last night in a game marred by "ugly incidents" and me melees.
I didn't think the purists would be at that sort of thing.
4 yellow cards, a black card and a red card for Cork, none for Kerry but don't let the facts get in your way.
Were the Corkies fighting with themselves in the tunnel?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 19, 2017, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: blanketattack on May 18, 2017, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
Kerry bet Cork last night in a game marred by "ugly incidents" and me melees.
I didn't think the purists would be at that sort of thing.
4 yellow cards, a black card and a red card for Cork, none for Kerry but don't let the facts get in your way.
Were the Corkies fighting with themselves in the tunnel?
Not unknown to happen. I didn't see what happened in the tunnel but you seem to have had a great view of what went on.
De Paper boyoyy!!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/ugly-clashes-overshadow-kerry-victory-over-cork-450294.html
Quote from: Rossfan on May 19, 2017, 04:35:26 PM
De Paper boyoyy!!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/ugly-clashes-overshadow-kerry-victory-over-cork-450294.html
Yes because "Ugly half-time tunnel scenes and a mass melee at the final whistle involving players and members of the backroom teams" gives a vivid picture of who the instigators were and whether it was pushing or punching. They couldn't be more vague if they called it a shemozzle.
If it was Tyrone v Armagh it would be the end of civilisation.....
Quote from: blanketattack on May 19, 2017, 09:44:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 19, 2017, 04:35:26 PM
De Paper boyoyy!!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/ugly-clashes-overshadow-kerry-victory-over-cork-450294.html
Yes because "Ugly half-time tunnel scenes and a mass melee at the final whistle involving players and members of the backroom teams" gives a vivid picture of who the instigators were and whether it was pushing or punching. They couldn't be more vague if they called it a shemozzle.
Why are you getting your back up about this? It's there in black and white.
Quote from: Syferus on May 19, 2017, 10:15:40 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on May 19, 2017, 09:44:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 19, 2017, 04:35:26 PM
De Paper boyoyy!!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/ugly-clashes-overshadow-kerry-victory-over-cork-450294.html
Yes because "Ugly half-time tunnel scenes and a mass melee at the final whistle involving players and members of the backroom teams" gives a vivid picture of who the instigators were and whether it was pushing or punching. They couldn't be more vague if they called it a shemozzle.
Why are you getting your back up about this? It's there in black and white.
Saw nothing in black and white where it showed Kerry as the instigators of the tunnel incidents or of any Kerry players guilty of any wrong doing.
Handy win for Mayo today by all accounts. Didn't get into see it in time as I had commitments early in the day.
2-19 to 0-9 was the result.
Anyone know anything about the Leinster under 17 football?
Quote from: blanketattack on May 19, 2017, 09:44:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 19, 2017, 04:35:26 PM
De Paper boyoyy!!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/ugly-clashes-overshadow-kerry-victory-over-cork-450294.html
Yes because "Ugly half-time tunnel scenes and a mass melee at the final whistle involving players and members of the backroom teams" gives a vivid picture of who the instigators were and whether it was pushing or punching. They couldn't be more vague if they called it a shemozzle.
Well you seem to have came to a conclusion without any knowledge on what actually took place.
Leinster u17 starts end of June.
Big win for Tyrone over Cavan this afternoon in the Ulster final. Final score was 3-15 to 0-06. I think there were 10 different scorers.
What's the story in the AI series? Does it follow the senior structure i.e. Tyrone due to play the Leinster reps in the Semi?
Galway beat Mayo 2-7 to 0-5 today.
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 11, 2017, 08:56:56 PM
Galway beat Mayo 2-7 to 0-5 today.
Report from the ConnachtGAA.ie website
Galway advanced to the final of the Connacht U17 Championship against either Leitrim or Roscommon after overcoming Mayo 2-7 to 0-5 in terrible conditions in Salthill on Sunday. In fairness to both teams, the swirling wind and driving rain made football almost impossible, but neither lacked for endeavour and this Galway team has some quality forwards, with Matthew Tierney and the mercurial Oisín McDonagh in particular catching the eye.
Both teams struggled massively to come to terms with the elements in the early stages, with Leo Howard playing an effective role as the sweeper and Jack Higgins excelling for Mayo, as he did throughout. Mayo played into the gale in the first period, and led two points to nil through two frees from captain Pat Lambert before Galway finally got off the mark with two rapid points in the 21st minute from Tierney and McDonagh. The half time score was 0-4 to 0-3, the game delicately poised and Galway looking like they were up against it facing into the wind for the second half.
However, goals win games and the second half was barely a minute old when wing forward Aidan Halloran ghosted into space infront of Jamie McNicholas' goal and was expertly found by McDonagh before coolly slotting the ball under the advancing goalie. McDonagh then goaled himself in the 16th minute of the second half after a clever Keelan Craven pass to make the score 2-5 to 0-4 and Mayo with a mountain to climb. Try as they did the Mayo men just couldn't convert the chances they created and when Joe Gubbins made a super save from corner forward Paul Towey with ten minutes to go, you sensed that it was going to be Galway's day. McDonagh sealed the Tribesmen's victory with an outrageous curling score off his left foot from the left wing into the wind after jinking past two defenders in injury time, setting up a showdown for Galway on Connacht final day with Leitrim or Roscommon on the 9th of July.
Mayo: J McNicholas; J Coyne, B McLeod, J Higgins; L Howard, R Brickenden, A McDonnell; P Golderick, J Gallagher (0-1); P Lambert (0-3fs), E Rowley, L Burke; J Jennings (0-1f), T Morris, P Towey Subs: M Moran for Rowley (37 mins), C Golden for Goldrick (42 mins), K Callaghan for Morris (47 mins), C Gavin for Burke and A McHale for Gallagher (53 mins)
Galway: J Gubbins; C O'Neill, S Fitzgerald, T Considine; C Monahan (0-1), J Glynn, M Boyle; C Walsh, J Keady; O Moran, M Tierney (0-2), A Halloran (1-0); K Craven, O McDonagh (1-3), B Harlow (0-1) Subs: O Gormally for Craven (55 mins) P Kelly for Keady (58 mins) J Kirrane for O'Neill (60 mins)
No North mayo reps on an underage team again, have North mayo clubs gone back that much or was it a manager/selection thing? I thought knockmore beat Westport in an U17 league final recently? Or was that something else?
What's the story with the Leinster u17 championship? Is it over yet? Who are the strong teams, is imagine Dublin are favourites.
http://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/leinster-u-17-special-football-2017/
Seems to be a good idea running it in late June/July so there's not too long a gap until the semi-finals although there's only 4 days between the semi and the final. Also includes a backdoor for 1st round losers.
Minor Connacht final will be played on 9th July before the senior final. U17 final is being played on Saturday the 8th July.
Playing these games so early is absolutely spectator hostile. All because they want to play extra-time there and then and run the competition off as fast as possible. They need to either put them on at a normal time before senior matches or only play them separately. They've managed to combine the worst of all worlds here.
I see the Connacht u17 final is fixed for the night before the Connacht minor final.
Galway and Ros will be playing in that u17 final and at least one of their minor sides will be in action the following day in the minor Connacht final.
Surely to God they can plan it a small bit better than that ffs.
Whichever team wins the minor semi will have lads that are also on the u17 panel.
It's unfair on those lads to potentially miss out on an u17 Connacht final.
What are they thinking with that sort of planning?
Quote from: galwayman on June 19, 2017, 08:23:09 PM
I see the Connacht u17 final is fixed for the night before the Connacht minor final.
Galway and Ros will be playing in that u17 final and at least one of their minor sides will be in action the following day in the minor Connacht final.
Surely to God they can plan it a small bit better than that ffs.
Whichever team wins the minor semi will have lads that are also on the minor panel.
It's unfair on those lads to potentially miss out on an u17 Connacht final.
What are they thinking with that sort of planning?
I'll tell you what's unfair. Galway dragging the Roscommon minor team to Salthill on a midweek evening next week for the minor semi-final. Why not Tuam? I thought Galway were a bit better than the stroke politics Mayo pulls..
Far bigger f**k up than going to Bekan for the U17 final.
Quote from: Syferus on June 19, 2017, 08:36:08 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 19, 2017, 08:23:09 PM
I see the Connacht u17 final is fixed for the night before the Connacht minor final.
Galway and Ros will be playing in that u17 final and at least one of their minor sides will be in action the following day in the minor Connacht final.
Surely to God they can plan it a small bit better than that ffs.
Whichever team wins the minor semi will have lads that are also on the minor panel.
It's unfair on those lads to potentially miss out on an u17 Connacht final.
What are they thinking with that sort of planning?
I'll tell you what's unfair. Galway dragging the Roscommon minor team to Salthill on a midweek evening next week for the minor semi-final. Why not Tuam? I thought Galway were a bit better than the stroke politics Mayo pulls..
Far bigger f**k up than going to Bekan for the U17 final.
Oh boo f**king hoo.
Change the subject why don't ya.
This thread is about the u17 championship.
Im with syf on this one, Galway antics with that minor semi is a joke.
Roscommon never played a Connacht underage game in Kiltoom with Leinster in view?
Quote from: PW Nally on June 21, 2017, 12:05:31 AM
Roscommon never played a Connacht underage game in Kiltoom with Leinster in view?
No floodlights at the Hyde. Any match that can be played in natural light has been in the Hyde.
It's the Herrins' home fixture they can choose the venue.
Total bolx for us but c'est le vie ( apologies for lack of Francais).
I see Darragh Canavan was in both the minor and U17s team for Tyrone.
Are there many others in that boat?
Antoin Fox from Loughmacrory played in full back line for both the minors and u17. Pretty sure there are a few more.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2017, 01:21:15 AM
It's the Herrins' home fixture they can choose the venue.
Total bolx for us but c'est le vie ( apologies for lack of Franca/quote]
Ros should bring them to Boyle or Strokestown the next time, shows no respect for working people who would wish to see the game, bringing them out to Salthill into galway evening traffic and getting home late with work the next day, its just f.. the rossie gaa supporter.
Results tonight in Leinster:
Westmeath 1-12 Offaly 2-7
Meath 1-15 Dublin 1-10
Wicklow 1-7 Longford 2-13
Laois 7-15 Louth 0-3
Kildare 2-12 Carlow 1-10 (last minute goal for carlow made the scoreline look more competitive and Kildare minors weren't selected so not that bad a result.)
Hope for Meath but Dublin may not have been at full strenght either. There is a back door same as at minor.
Close game between Laois and Louth.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 28, 2017, 09:31:29 PM
Meath 1-15 Dublin 1-10
Hope for Meath but Dublin may not have been at full strenght either. There is a back door same as at minor.
Didnt hear that we were missing anyone. For sure, the only U18 starter who is U17 played.
But like the minor game, got off to an awful start. Meath went 8-0 up. Unlike ther minor game, we couldn't claw them back! I would expect us to improve though, and if we happened to play Meath again I'd say it'd be a 50/50 game.
Quote from: laoislad on June 28, 2017, 09:51:00 PM
Close game between Laois and Louth.
Is it an especially strong Laois side or were Louth just very poor.
You think Laois would surely be in with a shout at Leinster if they are putting up that kind of a scoreline.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 29, 2017, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 28, 2017, 09:51:00 PM
Close game between Laois and Louth.
Is it an especially strong Laois side or were Louth just very poor.
You think Laois would surely be in with a shout at Leinster if they are putting up that kind of a scoreline.
Louth are still in the minor and hadn't got a few under 17s. 13 of the starting Laois 15 had played in the minor championship.
Couldn't find a minor thread but given the fact that the Under 17 champonship is clearly now of more importance I'll mention tonights minor game here. Dublin won by 1-16 to 0-14 points in the end in a competitive enjoyable enough game in front of a very decent Newbridge crowd. The difference betwen the teams was James Doran who was unplayable at centre forward for Dublin, they are average enough in general but are a very big team and had a well organised blanket defence.
Kildare were solid enough and had the majority of posession but we lacked just a tiny bit of quality in some key positions. 5 of these players are now available for the U17s where they may excell.
John Hickey reffed it and remains excellent in my view, he allows games to flow and is fair.
Ros v Galway in the Connacht U17 Final Saturday in the Prenty Centre.
Dublin's dominance of Leinster continues -won U21 and will most likely win the Senior and Minor.
Is the u-17 championship set-up like the minors to treat the ulser sides unfairly, i.e. is there a back door in every other province but none in Ulster?
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2017, 08:43:44 AM
Is the u-17 championship set-up like the minors to treat the ulser sides unfairly, i.e. is there a back door in every other province but none in Ulster?
Thats the Ulster Councils fault, nobody elses!
Quote from: johnneycool on July 06, 2017, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2017, 08:43:44 AM
Is the u-17 championship set-up like the minors to treat the ulser sides unfairly, i.e. is there a back door in every other province but none in Ulster?
Thats the Ulster Councils fault, nobody elses!
Yep, but should have been sorted along time ago. Unbelievable how teams have an advantage over others.
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2017, 10:47:22 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 06, 2017, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2017, 08:43:44 AM
Is the u-17 championship set-up like the minors to treat the ulser sides unfairly, i.e. is there a back door in every other province but none in Ulster?
Thats the Ulster Councils fault, nobody elses!
Yep, but should have been sorted along time ago. Unbelievable how teams have an advantage over others.
Totally a matter for your own crowd.
Connacht was totally knock out too for your info.
The overall format from 2018 on hasn't been decided yet as far as I know.
I would imagine Galway will be without several players who are on the minor squad that play the Connacht final against Sligo the next day.
3 u17s started against the Mayo minors and 2 more came off the bench. I think there may be a few more on the squad also not 100% sure.
Quote from: galwayman on July 06, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
I would imagine Galway will be without several players who are on the minor squad that play the Connacht final against Sligo the next day.
3 u17s started against the Mayo minors and 2 more came off the bench. I think there may be a few more on the squad also not 100% sure.
Eh? Why would you imagine that? This is the new minor grade so it's on the same level as the last U18 final - I'd expect Galway to name a full strength team for Saturday and play some lads a bit gassed on Sunday.
Jases Syfīn you talk some shyte.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2017, 03:06:00 PM
Jases Syfīn you talk some shyte.
Nonsense, as usual. It happens regularly between many grades. I don't know the number of times I've saw or hear lads play club/county/college on a Saturday and then being asked to line out the next day again. Why anyone would think this situation above any of the others would result in caution being exercised I do not know.
Quote from: galwayman on July 06, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
I would imagine Galway will be without several players who are on the minor squad that play the Connacht final against Sligo the next day.
3 u17s started against the Mayo minors and 2 more came off the bench. I think there may be a few more on the squad also not 100% sure.
Open to correction. 3 starters Sean Fitzgerald,Jack Glynn,Brain Harlowe and Subs brought on Mattew Tierney,Conor Walsh? it wouldn't have taken much of an effort to push this U17 final back one week but then again the Connacht GAA rarely use common sense. I also feel this U17 final should have been played in Tuam or Hyde park.
Is there an All Ireland U17 this year or is it just confined to Provinces?
Agree these lads should have got their day out in a Stadium rather than Prenty's Project.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2017, 06:36:30 PM
Is there an All Ireland U17 this year or is it just confined to Provinces?
Agree these lads should have got their day out in a Stadium rather than Prenty's Project.
They don't call it the All-Ireland championship for no reason..
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2017, 06:36:30 PM
Is there an All Ireland U17 this year or is it just confined to Provinces?
Agree these lads should have got their day out in a Stadium rather than Prenty's Project.
AI semi finals in August. Galway or Roscommon will take on Kerry.
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2017, 06:36:30 PM
Is there an All Ireland U17 this year or is it just confined to Provinces?
Agree these lads should have got their day out in a Stadium rather than Prenty's Project.
They don't call it the All-Ireland championship for no reason..
Err.......... you'll find we've been playing in the CONNACHT U17 Championship
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 06, 2017, 05:59:00 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 06, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
I would imagine Galway will be without several players who are on the minor squad that play the Connacht final against Sligo the next day.
3 u17s started against the Mayo minors and 2 more came off the bench. I think there may be a few more on the squad also not 100% sure.
Open to correction. 3 starters Sean Fitzgerald,Jack Glynn,Brain Harlowe and Subs brought on Mattew Tierney,Conor Walsh?
I think so yeah. The first three have been named in the Galway minor team for Sunday anyway.
That's the 5 alright.
There are others in the squad also
Ros 2-04 Galway 1-04 HT.
Galway's goal came immediately after our second.
Ros 2-08 Galway 1-08 FT.
Handier than even the scoreline suggests, Galway hit two points right after the break and then it was pretty much all Ros.
Great work lads, first ever Connacht U17 champions makes for a good day's work.
1st Connacht title of the weekend ;D
Well done gasúns.
Couldn't make it today.
Maybe I should give tomorrow a miss too.
Fantastic result for the young rossies, that puts paid to the clean sweep at underage for the choakers, now lets do a little bit more damage tomorrow.
Quote from: giveballaghback on July 08, 2017, 11:05:53 PM
Fantastic result for the young rossies, that puts paid to the clean sweep at underage for the choakers, now lets do a little bit more damage tomorrow.
Congrats to Roscommon. Galway obviously missing a number of their better players who are already on the minor team and panel for Sunday. Can't be helped though in this transition year.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 09, 2017, 02:04:17 AM
Quote from: giveballaghback on July 08, 2017, 11:05:53 PM
Fantastic result for the young rossies, that puts paid to the clean sweep at underage for the choakers, now lets do a little bit more damage tomorrow.
Congrats to Roscommon. Galway obviously missing a good scatter of their better players who are already on the minor team and panel for Sunday. Can't be helped though in this transition year.
This team beat the Galway County team handy last year and only lost to the City-West side by five in the Ted Webb despite having had a Fr. Manning game two days previous, so it's questionable how close Galway would have been whoever they picked. We're also missing our star forward from last year who thankfully was along with the panel this afternoon, albeit on crutches.
The gap was as significant between the sides as it was on the very good days for us at underage in years past. Great to see that, despite the penny-pinching, talent and good management still can win out. Food for thought for the jackasses that scuttled this year's minor and U21 teams before they even got a chance.
Best wishes to James Larkin from St. Kevin's who suffered a concussion and had to be rushed to Mayo General after the match.
Surely this could have been played on another weekend? Did any of the minors who were involved yesterday play for the 17's?
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Surely this could have been played on another weekend? Did any of the minors who were involved yesterday play for the 17's?
I think a couple of the minor subs played but those already on the minor team itself and a couple others did not.
Leinster Quarter finals on tomorrow.
Kildare(---)v(---)Wexford
Newbridge 7:00 PM
Dublin(---)v(---)Westmeath
Abbottstown - GAA Centre of Excellence 7:00 PM
Meath(---)v(---)Carlow
Páirc Tailteann 7:00 PM
Laois(---)v(---)Longford
Portlaoise 7:00 PM
Kildare, Meath, Laois are all winning well tonight so it looks like there may 4 good teams going into the semis. Can't find any updates on Dublin Westmeath, presumably Dublin winning but probably nobody at it with the M50 being as it is.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 12, 2017, 08:10:40 PM
Kildare, Meath, Laois are all winning well tonight so it looks like there may 4 good teams going into the semis. Can't find any updates on Dublin Westmeath, presumably Dublin winning but probably nobody at it with the M50 being as it is.
Dublin up 2-11 to 0-5 after 40 mins.
There should be 2 good semi finals whatever the draw.
Latest scores:
Kildare 6-15 Wexford 1-08
Meath 1-15 Carlow 0-04
Laois 1-15 Longford 0-07
All near the end.
Dublin 2-16 Westmeath 1-10 FT
Quote from: shark on July 12, 2017, 08:23:26 PM
Dublin 2-16 Westmeath 1-10 FT
Any Westmeath stand outs shark?
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 10, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Surely this could have been played on another weekend? Did any of the minors who were involved yesterday play for the 17's?
I think a couple of the minor subs played but those already on the minor team itself and a couple others did not.
I'm not sure what the dates are for the semi's are at this level but they won't be for a while considering where Leinster are up to so it won't have hurt Connacht to hold of for another week. If there's a logical reason why the game had to be played last saturday I'd like to hear it.
John Prenty's holidays?
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 10, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Surely this could have been played on another weekend? Did any of the minors who were involved yesterday play for the 17's?
I think a couple of the minor subs played but those already on the minor team itself and a couple others did not.
I'm not sure what the dates are for the semi's are at this level but they won't be for a while considering where Leinster are up to so it won't have hurt Connacht to hold of for another week. If there's a logical reason why the game had to be played last saturday I'd like to hear it.
Ya
still complaining about this? Christ lad.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 13, 2017, 11:12:40 AM
Quote from: shark on July 12, 2017, 08:23:26 PM
Dublin 2-16 Westmeath 1-10 FT
Any Westmeath stand outs shark?
I wasn't actually at it. Only posted what I saw on twitter. There are a few promising lads on that team; Tumelty (Tang), O'Hara (Lomans), McKenna (Shamrocks) and a couple of the Athlone lads including Dobsy Prendergast's son. However I wouldn't expect to see any of them at u20 level next year. And the lads from the top senior clubs will struggle to find much of a championship outlet.
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 10, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Surely this could have been played on another weekend? Did any of the minors who were involved yesterday play for the 17's?
I think a couple of the minor subs played but those already on the minor team itself and a couple others did not.
I'm not sure what the dates are for the semi's are at this level but they won't be for a while considering where Leinster are up to so it won't have hurt Connacht to hold of for another week. If there's a logical reason why the game had to be played last saturday I'd like to hear it.
Ya still complaining about this? Christ lad.
You'd be doing plenty of moaning about it if the shoe were on the other foot that's for sure.
Quote from: galwayman on July 13, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 10, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Surely this could have been played on another weekend? Did any of the minors who were involved yesterday play for the 17's?
I think a couple of the minor subs played but those already on the minor team itself and a couple others did not.
I'm not sure what the dates are for the semi's are at this level but they won't be for a while considering where Leinster are up to so it won't have hurt Connacht to hold of for another week. If there's a logical reason why the game had to be played last saturday I'd like to hear it.
Ya still complaining about this? Christ lad.
You'd be doing plenty of moaning about it if the shoe were on the other foot that's for sure.
Hardly. You take your loss and move the fúck on. Manc can't seem to accept his county got beat fair and square. Sad to see.
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2017, 02:20:08 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 13, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 10, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Surely this could have been played on another weekend? Did any of the minors who were involved yesterday play for the 17's?
I think a couple of the minor subs played but those already on the minor team itself and a couple others did not.
I'm not sure what the dates are for the semi's are at this level but they won't be for a while considering where Leinster are up to so it won't have hurt Connacht to hold of for another week. If there's a logical reason why the game had to be played last saturday I'd like to hear it.
Ya still complaining about this? Christ lad.
You'd be doing plenty of moaning about it if the shoe were on the other foot that's for sure.
Hardly. You take your loss and move the fúck on. Manc can't seem to accept his county got beat fair and square. Sad to see.
Not at all. No problem accepting defeat whatsoever. His point was regarding the timing of the game which was unnecessary and which I brought up before the minor semi final was ever played.
It could just as easily have been Roscommon who were put in that position and my opinion would be the same if that were the case.
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2017, 02:20:08 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 13, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 10, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Surely this could have been played on another weekend? Did any of the minors who were involved yesterday play for the 17's?
I think a couple of the minor subs played but those already on the minor team itself and a couple others did not.
I'm not sure what the dates are for the semi's are at this level but they won't be for a while considering where Leinster are up to so it won't have hurt Connacht to hold of for another week. If there's a logical reason why the game had to be played last saturday I'd like to hear it.
Ya still complaining about this? Christ lad.
You'd be doing plenty of moaning about it if the shoe were on the other foot that's for sure.
Hardly. You take your loss and move the fúck on. Manc can't seem to accept his county got beat fair and square. Sad to see.
Tbf, you're still whinging about the Rossies defeat in the AI u21 final v Tyrone three years ago.
SemI Final and 2 years ago.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 13, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
SemI Final and 2 years ago.
See, we won the fecker and I've even forgot about it.
Leinster Semi-Finals results:
Dublin 1-16 Laois 1-14
Meath 2-13 Kildare 1-12
Final set for Saturday 22 July.
Leinster final result.
Meath 3-12 Dublin 1-13
All Ireland semi finals
Kerry v Roscommon
Meath v Tyrone
We're delighted with this result. This group of lads have beaten Dublin consistently as they've moved up the grades so hopefully we can carry a good few of them into the seniors in the coming years.
Quote from: thejuice on July 23, 2017, 07:29:20 PM
We're delighted with this result. This group of lads have beaten Dublin consistently as they've moved up the grades so hopefully we can carry a good few of them into the seniors in the coming years.
They're certainly an impressive group of lads. The next big test will be when they move outside Leinster. Hopefully they'll continue to develop.
Hopefully. And hopefully at least half of them don't decide to pack their bags and head for Australia or New York in the coming years.
QuoteWe're delighted with this result. This group of lads have beaten Dublin consistently as they've moved up the grades so hopefully we can carry a good few of them into the seniors in the coming years.
High hopes for young Matthew here in Dunshaughlin alright
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 22, 2017, 03:19:45 PM
All Ireland semi finals
Kerry v Roscommon
Meath v Tyrone
Venues still up in the air for these semi finals, Kerry i hear are pushing hard to get their semi final played in Munster.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 26, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 22, 2017, 03:19:45 PM
All Ireland semi finals
Kerry v Roscommon
Meath v Tyrone
Venues still up in the air for these semi finals, Kerry i hear are pushing hard to get their semi final played in Munster.
Incorrect. Kerry pushing to play an All-Ireland semi-final on a Wednesday evening just to suit their minor team that has an overlap of maybe two or three players with the U17 side. We've rightly objected to that nonsense, hence the fact the venues and dates have not been announced.
The dates set for the two semi finals.
August 12th Kerry v Roscommon - Ennis at 2pm
Wednesday 9th August in Breffni Park 7.30
Tyrone v Meath
When push comes to shove Kerry got their All Ireland semi final played in Munster.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 28, 2017, 10:52:24 PM
When push comes to shove Kerry got their All Ireland semi final played in Munster.
The date rather than the venue was the contentious point. Ennis has nothing but good memories for Roscommon minor teams.
Big night tonight for Meath and Tyrone's young lads. We'd have a pretty good team on the go at this age group that went through Ulster without any real bother. What's the Meath team like this year? Big expectations?
Link for game...
http://teamtalkmag.com/2017/08/live-radio-tyrone-v-meath-u17-ireland-sf-wed-9th-aug-720pm/
Hope master Canavan has a good game. 1-02 to 0-00 so far.
1-06 to 0-05 at half time. We should be much further ahead and have let Meath back into the game. We're on 6 wides and Meath on two.
The U17 All Ireland final will be played on August 27th in Croke park throw in at 12.
What did this finish?
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 09, 2017, 08:46:41 PM
What did this finish?
Tyrone where winning 1-12 to 0-10 on 60mins
FT Tyrone 1-14 Meath 0-10.
Tyrone 1-14 v Meath 0-10 just finished now.
Meath were always playing catch up to the early Tyrone lead.
Fair amount of wides/missed chances on both sides.
Went to Breffni to watch this last night as the club had a lad playing for Meath. Tyrone were a different class and the 7 points defeat flattered Meath who never recovered really from the early goal - keeper hesitated and corner forward took advantage. Tyrone very impressive and really well coached. All comfortable on the ball and without doubt young Canavan has the ould fella's genes and football brain - a joy to watch and a real team player unlike some superstars at underage level. Tyrone conveyor belt shows no sign of slowing down
I was hopeful for this group of players but by all accounts the better team won. Perhaps we could have played better in some regards tactically from what I've read but ultimately Tyrone just had the edge in terms of talent in most sectors of the game.
Still two wins over Dublin, a win over Kildare and a Leinster title isn't bad going and from our current predicament at senior level if we could get similar results at adult level in a few years we'd be quite content.
Good luck to Tyrone going forward. Already looking forward to seeing Canavan junior playing senior in a few years.
Ros v Kerry Saturday in Ennis.
Can we repeat 2006 or will it go along expected lines?
Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to make it so hopefully the lads will give me another day out in Croker.
QuoteI was hopeful for this group of players but by all accounts the better team won. Perhaps we could have played better in some regards tactically from what I've read but ultimately Tyrone just had the edge in terms of talent in most sectors of the game.
Juice - Young Morris from Nobber at FF is a smashing player - very powerful for this age groups but a bit one footed so it'll be interesting to see how he progresses. Also corner back from Ballinabrackey was excellent before he went off injured. 3 of the starting 15 are still u16 and I'm told by those in the know that the current u16 crop are looking good as well. However I did notice that a few of the bigger lads seemed to struggle for pace but I think Tyrone are well ahead of their peers in Ulster as well from talking to a few of the red handers last night
I've heard that the Meath U16s of this year are very strong alright.
Declan, I've not seen this Tyrone U17 team yet (or any U17 football actually).
What type of game was it? I mean was it 15 v 15 lined out or did they play 13 behind the ball at times?
QuoteDeclan, I've not seen this Tyrone U17 team yet (or any U17 football actually).
What type of game was it? I mean was it 15 v 15 lined out or did they play 13 behind the ball at times?
Tyrone got men back alright when needed and played a sweeper so from my perspective "typical Tyrone" set up. However they dominated possession so much that they were going forward for most of the match and Meath really only threatened when they got turnovers on their 45 and gotr the ball quickly to their forwards - they really struggled to break though when it slowed down- tactically Meath had their top scorer v Dublin wearing 15 but playing as an auxiliary midfielder except stuck to the sideline- weird but probably trying to draw Tyrone out which didn't work.
Semi final half time in Ennis.
Roscommon 1-6 Kerry 1-5
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 12, 2017, 02:37:22 PM
Semi final half time in Ennis.
Roscommon 1-6 Kerry 1-5
Ross 1-12
Kerry 1-11
Sounds a cracking game. Ross keeper with big save when pass was on for sure finish.
52 minutes
4 mins to play. Roscommon 1-13 Kerry 1-12
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U17 semi-final #rosgaa #gaa
30mins 2nd half
Roscommon : 2-15(21)
Kerry: 1-12(15) Gillooly goooal
The Rossies win, will play Tyrone in the final.
Super win. Well done Roscommon.
FT Roscommon 2-15 Kerry 1-13. No fluke the rossies led from pillar to post an outstanding result against a top Kerry team.
Yessssss!!!
Nerves shattered trying to follow Willie's ramblings.
Great win.
Congrats to all involved.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 12, 2017, 03:30:54 PM
Yessssss!!!
Nerves shattered trying to follow Willie's ramblings.
Great win.
Congrats to all involved.
Dunno how ye listen to him on a regular basis.
Painful stuff.
Excellent stuff. These lads looked the business at U16 but they have progressed well since then. It took them getting to the AI final but they'll finally get their match at Croker. Great ending to a trying week.
That's some result. Whilst Roscommon will enter the game hot favourites we will try to keep the ball kicked out to them. That Kerry team was highly rated. Should be a cracking all Ireland final. I'm sure both Tyrone and Roscommon are thrilled to be there in its first year. Who will have the honour of being the first name on the ##### cup. ( imho should have been the cormac cup.)
Quote from: rrhf on August 12, 2017, 04:07:13 PM
That's some result. Whilst Roscommon will enter the game hot favourites we will try to keep the ball kicked out to them. That Kerry team was highly rated. Should be a cracking all Ireland final. I'm sure both Tyrone and Roscommon are thrilled to be there in its first year. Who will have the honour of being the first name on the ##### cup. ( imho should have been the cormac cup.)
Dermot Earley cup would be better
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2017, 03:41:59 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 12, 2017, 03:30:54 PM
Yessssss!!!
Nerves shattered trying to follow Willie's ramblings.
Great win.
Congrats to all involved.
Dunno how ye listen to him on a regular basis.
Painful stuff.
I'd usually be at games and only hear him occasionally.
Hard to follow this competition this year with it being run parallel to the minors, some counties allowing their u17 minors play in the u17 championship and some not.
Quote from: ballinaman on August 12, 2017, 06:00:01 PM
Hard to follow this competition this year with it being run parallel to the minors, some counties allowing their u17 minors play in the u17 championship and some not.
Kerry definitely did because they fûcked about with the date to accommodate their minor game.
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2017, 06:42:58 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 12, 2017, 06:00:01 PM
Hard to follow this competition this year with it being run parallel to the minors, some counties allowing their u17 minors play in the u17 championship and some not.
Kerry definitely did because they fûcked about with the date to accommodate their minor game.
Good to hear. Mighty win
Kerry had at least 3 of their minor team playing, keeper, chb, and a forward, great result for Roscommon hopefully they will close it out now and beat Tyrone.
Should be a great final.
Hope the best team/less cynical team win
Well done the Rossies! :)
A lot of Co Mayo bucks being nice to us :-[
Thanks lads.
Great win for your buckeens. Up the Wesht every time and here's hoping ye go all the way.
Disgraceful display by the young Rossies, paying no regard to glorious GAA traditions that state you can't beat Kerry teams in Croke Park. What is wrong with these young fellas. Don't they read the newspapers, listen to podcasts or, more importantly, take notice of the sports psychologists etc posting on this board. I'm horrified. Imagine what might happen if this trend continues. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 13, 2017, 05:22:37 PM
Disgraceful display by the young Rossies, paying no regard to glorious GAA traditions that state you can't beat Kerry teams in Croke Park. What is wrong with these young fellas. Don't they read the newspapers, listen to podcasts or, more importantly, take notice of the sports psychologists etc posting on this board. I'm horrified. Imagine what might happen if this trend continues. ;D ;D ;D ;D
It was in Ennis.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 13, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 13, 2017, 05:22:37 PM
Disgraceful display by the young Rossies, paying no regard to glorious GAA traditions that state you can't beat Kerry teams in Croke Park. What is wrong with these young fellas. Don't they read the newspapers, listen to podcasts or, more importantly, take notice of the sports psychologists etc posting on this board. I'm horrified. Imagine what might happen if this trend continues. ;D ;D ;D ;D
It was in Ennis.
Was meant to be in Croke park until the Kerry county board got it switched to a Munster venue. Well done to the rossies they responded to that carry on the best possible way by beating Kerry by a bit to spare.
Any tickets anywhere??
I'm going to keep an eye on tickets.ie for the usual returns from club allocations. Best hope besides knowing a big wig.
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2017, 10:20:40 PM
I'm going to keep an eye on tickets.ie for the usual returns from club allocations. Best hope besides knowing a big wig.
Will there be no allocation through Ros clubs? Surely they would have to send some tickets that route.
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 14, 2017, 12:02:35 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2017, 10:20:40 PM
I'm going to keep an eye on tickets.ie for the usual returns from club allocations. Best hope besides knowing a big wig.
Will there be no allocation through Ros clubs? Surely they would have to send some tickets that route.
If the players' families get tickets for this one they will be doing well.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 13, 2017, 05:22:37 PM
Disgraceful display by the young Rossies, paying no regard to glorious GAA traditions that state you can't beat Kerry teams in Croke Park. What is wrong with these young fellas. Don't they read the newspapers, listen to podcasts or, more importantly, take notice of the sports psychologists etc posting on this board. I'm horrified. Imagine what might happen if this trend continues. ;D ;D ;D ;D
And Kerry have long memories. Poor Cavan have been blacklisted ever since beating the Kingdom in Polo Grounds 1947.
well done to the Rossies . im sure it just the boost that was need after last week .
will this grade be called minor from next year and all that entails such as Final on just before the senior one etc. or will it be allowed to become just another underage competiton?
TG4 will cover this All Ireland final live. 11:45 am throw in time now.
Maith shibh TG4.
I still want a ticket please.
Might be the first time it's been handy to have politicians from Roscommon. Good on Eugene Murphy, and good on the lad on the Roscommon Football Legends FB page for leading the charge on this one.
Had tickets been available there would be thousands of Roscommon supporters at this match. Still hopeful that there will be a few returns near the end of next week.
You'd wonder why this game was not put with the Mayo/Kerry match which would meant more tickets available. Granted this fixture suits Tyrone fans!
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 17, 2017, 06:50:52 PM
You'd wonder why this game was not put with the Mayo/Kerry match which would meant more tickets available. Granted this fixture suits Tyrone fans!
August 20th was the original date for the U17 final until Kerry requested for it to be moved back one week so it didn't clash with the minor semi final..
They could have waited till they saw how they got on in the Semi Final first ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2017, 07:13:02 PM
They could have waited till they saw how they got on in the Semi Final first ;D
Typical Kerry arrogance.
Big day getting near for these young lads, got my ticket today after a lot of phone calls and really looking forward to all 3 games.
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 24, 2017, 08:48:36 PM
Big day getting near for these young lads, got my ticket today after a lot of phone calls and really looking forward to all 3 games.
I hope you Rossies will be cheering for the red hand at 3.30pm?
We hope to be in Ros Town with the Cup by then ;D
Isn't that adult stuff at 4 pm?
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 24, 2017, 08:48:36 PM
Big day getting near for these young lads, got my ticket today after a lot of phone calls and really looking forward to all 3 games.
Out of interest what type of ticket did you get, upper or lower seat or standing in the Nally or Hill 16?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 24, 2017, 09:45:11 PM
We hope to be in Ros Town with the Cup by then ;D
Isn't that adult stuff at 4 pm?
You'll be drowning your sorrows!
You're right, it is 4pm!
If "my" ticket doesn't come through anyone any idea what the touts will be charging Sunday morning??
Don't go the tout route, youll get one if you get up good n early , get chatting to everyone
Was racing to Ros Co Board office where a "limited number" of tickets are for sale when I got the magic phone call ;D
Collecting tonight.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 25, 2017, 03:16:38 PM
Was racing to Ros Co Board office where a "limited number" of tickets are for sale when I got the magic phone call ;D
Collecting tonight.
Good man, I'll bring a spare Tyrone jersey for you to fire on when the big guns come out later in the afternoon!
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 24, 2017, 09:48:20 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 24, 2017, 08:48:36 PM
Big day getting near for these young lads, got my ticket today after a lot of phone calls and really looking forward to all 3 games.
Out of interest what type of ticket did you get, upper or lower seat or standing in the Nally or Hill 16?
Got a lower hogan from a dub would you believe, Ill have to stay silent for senior game.
Best of luck tomorra lads.
Time to head for the oul' leaba now, early start for th'oul MF tomorrow....
Roscommon TOTALLY outclassed.
Looking like the first title is heading to Tyrone. :D
Mini Canavan is a Major talent! ;)
What's the score? Can't access Tg4.
0-13 0-8 43mins
Different game now. Still five in it mind.
Wee god, some finish
2-18 0-15 last minute
Well done to the Tyrone lads, blitzed us for 20 minutes in first half. I feared for a complete annihilation in second half, but the Rossies stuck to the task admirably, and Tyrone kicked a good few wides as Ros were clawing it back. It never looked like we could manufacture a goal, however, whereas it looked like it was coming for a while for Tyrone. Plenty to be optimistic about- with the proper supports and coaching, hopefully a few of these lads will be able to step up to senior level.
Hard luck Ros. It would have been nice to see a western win. On the wider point I doubt if this grade of football will be much of a guide to future senior success. Minor to senior is difficult enough to predict.
We were blown away for that 20 minutes before ht.
We were 2nd in every aspect of the game.
At least we restored some pride with a spirited 2nd half.
I could criticise lads but they're only 16/17 year olds trying to do their best so leave them alone.
Well done Tyrone but 9 points a bit harsh on our buckeens..
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 27, 2017, 03:01:21 PM
Hard luck Ros. It would have been nice to see a western win. On the wider point I doubt if this grade of football will be much of a guide to future senior success. Minor to senior is difficult enough to predict.
I'd say the objective for Roscommon with that group of U17s is to get as many of them as possible to play U20 level over the next 3 years and win a provincial title or two.senior and who makes the step up comes after that.
Tyrone very impressive they punished every mistake Roscommon made and were determined not to concede a goal. It was easy to see why they beat a decent Meath team by 7 points in semi final held them to a mere 0-10.
That was some goal from wee God. He can carry the ball at pace faster than most sprinting alongside him!
Why were they those black jerseys?
I heard someone say on Sunday that they don't wear the Tyrone crest because they're still in the academy and have to earn the right to wear the senior jersey. I thought it sounded crazy. Anyone else hear this?
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 29, 2017, 12:11:49 AM
Why were they those black jerseys?
I heard someone say on Sunday that they don't wear the Tyrone crest because they're still in the academy and have to earn the right to wear the senior jersey. I thought it sounded crazy. Anyone else hear this?
Absolutely right Fuzzman, the whole concept of the Acadamh structures means that they don't get the white jersey til they make the senior team. It was felt that there was an issue with boys making it into one of the development squads and thinking they had "made it" full stop, and became complacent when they had all the gear. They wear their club jerseys to training.
Quote from: Rois on August 29, 2017, 06:20:16 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 29, 2017, 12:11:49 AM
Why were they those black jerseys?
I heard someone say on Sunday that they don't wear the Tyrone crest because they're still in the academy and have to earn the right to wear the senior jersey. I thought it sounded crazy. Anyone else hear this?
Absolutely right Fuzzman, the whole concept of the Acadamh structures means that they don't get the white jersey til they make the senior team. It was felt that there was an issue with boys making it into one of the development squads and thinking they had "made it" full stop, and became complacent when they had all the gear. They wear their club jerseys to training.
That's a protocol worth considering. Selection for and retention in academies in Mayo is highly problematic.
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 29, 2017, 12:11:49 AM
Why were they those black jerseys?
I heard someone say on Sunday that they don't wear the Tyrone crest because they're still in the academy and have to earn the right to wear the senior jersey. I thought it sounded crazy. Anyone else hear this?
Same in Tipp. Academy squads wear Blue and Gold jerseys, but they are not the same jerseys as the 'Adult' teams.
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 29, 2017, 12:11:49 AM
Why were they those black jerseys?
I heard someone say on Sunday that they don't wear the Tyrone crest because they're still in the academy and have to earn the right to wear the senior jersey. I thought it sounded crazy. Anyone else hear this?
Surely everyone who really follows Tyrone GAA should know this? The Acadamh structure including jersey and crest have been like this for a couple of years and well publicised.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 29, 2017, 03:08:50 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 29, 2017, 12:11:49 AM
Why were they those black jerseys?
I heard someone say on Sunday that they don't wear the Tyrone crest because they're still in the academy and have to earn the right to wear the senior jersey. I thought it sounded crazy. Anyone else hear this?
Same in Tipp. Academy squads wear Blue and Gold jerseys, but they are not the same jerseys as the 'Adult' teams.
Must be common enough, Down academy players play in black jerseys.
Does this competition now merit having a final on All Ireland Senior Final Sunday in coming years?
I believe that's the plan. Effectively this is the new 'Minor'.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2017, 02:52:05 PM
I believe that's the plan. Effectively this is the new 'Minor'.
I remember reading elsewhere that next years U17 All Ireland will be officially known as minor and the same cup that will be presented to Derry or Kerry this September will be given to the 2018 winners.
Minor is u17 next year onwards.
this was a one off competition to cater for 1st yr minors who would miss out next year effectively
Quote from: Orchard park on August 31, 2017, 04:06:19 PM
Minor is u17 next year onwards.
this was a one off competition to cater for 1st yr minors who would miss out next year effectively
Yes, basically this is the Minor championship from now on.
This year's U17 is officially a "Competition"
Ros lost the U16s Ted Webb Cup Final tonight by a point to Galway City/West. We led by 3 pts going into injury time, conceded 1-1 then.
Gave away 3 very avoidable goals but letting Galway run the length of the pitch for the 3rd was criminal.
Was an excellent game otherwise.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 09, 2017, 12:10:06 AM
Ros lost the U16s Ted Webb Cup Final tonight by a point to Galway City/West. We led by 3 pts going into injury time, conceded 1-1 then.
Gave away 3 very avoidable goals but letting Galway run the length of the pitch for the 3rd was criminal.
Was an excellent game otherwise.
Roscommon teams are immune to taking a card to close out a game. Do the dirt and don't be a mug, the other teams are fully willing to do it to us when they're ahead at the end. Hopefully the lads learn that lesson as they have every chance in the Fr. Manning and in Connacht next year.