Ulster Colleges

Started by Line Ball, October 13, 2012, 06:59:14 PM

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imtommygunn

I wouldn't have thought so no... what makes you say that? If they were they'd win a lot more than they do at ulster level.

Mikhailov

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 29, 2024, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 29, 2024, 01:47:29 PMBoth Academy midfielders were excellent - Hughes was a prominent threat, reliable from frees, but i thought their No. 9 was even better. Cant mind his name now. Lost count of how many clean kick outs he won, always an outlet on the Academy kickouts. Liam McGeary showed very well too in the SPAD attack
Agree on Noah Grimes, fantastic prospect. One to watch with Tyrone U20s this year

It was a really enjoyable semi final - especially when you consider that not that long ago, both these sets of players would have in all likelihood have been playing for the Academy. If Omagh CBS do indeed lift this years McRory cup, the emergence of Donaghmore convent taking boys in has cost the Academy a McRory.
Hughes has a fantastic strike on him for free kicks. Massive asset having a player who can do that. He played the majority of the game as full forward, so disagree with his impact at midfield. The number nine Dillon O'Neill had a very good game but shades of Holy Trinity last year as he is 19 years old playing against players one or two years younger than himself. Grimes is a great prospect but he will have better days on the football field, his 1-01 showcased his talent but he was also guilty of some very poor shots throughout the game. Ultimately what cost Donaghmore was the number 15 Corrigan blazing a goal chance over the bar when he had a simple chance to square the ball for a palm to the empty net second half, he puts that across and Donaghmore go three up they would've pushed clear. Joey Clarke the best for Donaghmore, even though the referee was very very harsh on him. CBS have a great chance of back to back MacRory's but they have struggled with teams who have superior size and Dungannon would be quite a bit bigger than Omagh, so 50/50 game.

Agree on Joey Clarke. I felt he was the best player on the pitch and the referee was sore on him particularly on one occasion mid way through the second half at a crucial stage.

johnnycool

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

12 of the starting 15 were four masters and another 8 in the subs.

J70

Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2024, 12:59:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

12 of the starting 15 were four masters and another 8 in the subs.

AVS would draw most of their student body from Four Masters and parts of the St Nauls and Naomh Brid clubs. Usually I'd be surprised there's not more St Nauls players in there, but Four Masters have an extremely strong minor set-up at the moment, as anyone watching the Ulster club underage the last couple of years would know.

twohands!!!

Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

johnnycool

Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

I think it's down as an U19 competition but realistically unless someone is doing a resit most upper 6th or whatever it's called now would be U18.5
Could be the same in the 26, I don't know

Estimator

Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2024, 05:02:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

I think it's down as an U19 competition but realistically unless someone is doing a resit most upper 6th or whatever it's called now would be U18.5
Could be the same in the 26, I don't know


Its Under 19 for that reason and they rejigged the playing rules for the MacRory this year, regarding Yr 15 students (Repeat U6th students). 
If you have decided to repeat your final year in secondary school, you can only play MacRory Cup football if you are returning to the same school that you completed the previous 7 years in. Cuts out any school recruiting students/footballers who have left school, but could still play another year of MacRory Cup.
Ulster League Champions 2009

clarshack

Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

can remember Dungannon Academy in 1991 losing players for the Hogan Semi due to a 6 month difference rule.

imtommygunn

Maghera lost a few late 90s too. (Plus suspensions from that bug fight too haha)

Taylor

Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

Maybe my mind is playing tricks but I always thought the rule DIDNT favour Ulster teams and they used to lose players when they went to the Hogan

bennydorano

Quote from: Taylor on February 07, 2024, 10:18:15 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

Maybe my mind is playing tricks but I always thought the rule DIDNT favour Ulster teams and they used to lose players when they went to the Hogan
Yes,definitely used to be that way, not sure when it was equalised.

ClubScene13

How heavy are Omagh CBS favoured on Sunday? Are they just edging it or are they expected to win by 4 or 5+?

It's a long time from the Academy made any noise at MacRory, only getting badly beaten in the 2015 final since the great generation from 2008-2011

barelegs

Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 07, 2024, 11:16:50 AMHow heavy are Omagh CBS favoured on Sunday? Are they just edging it or are they expected to win by 4 or 5+?

It's a long time from the Academy made any noise at MacRory, only getting badly beaten in the 2015 final since the great generation from 2008-2011

Was just thinking about the 2015 final earlier. Academy team had Michael McKernan, Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick, Ciaran Higgins (Armagh) and a number of former county panelists Liam Rafferty, Daniel Kerr, Ryan Coleman and beat a decent Maghera team in the semi final in Ballinderry but didn't turn up for the final.

Omagh probably deserving favourites and have players that have been there and done it. Might be a year early for Dungannon but you never know. This year's Rannafast team would be fancied to make an impression over next two years.

ClubScene13

Quote from: barelegs on February 07, 2024, 12:48:10 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 07, 2024, 11:16:50 AMHow heavy are Omagh CBS favoured on Sunday? Are they just edging it or are they expected to win by 4 or 5+?

It's a long time from the Academy made any noise at MacRory, only getting badly beaten in the 2015 final since the great generation from 2008-2011

Was just thinking about the 2015 final earlier. Academy team had Michael McKernan, Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick, Ciaran Higgins (Armagh) and a number of former county panelists Liam Rafferty, Daniel Kerr, Ryan Coleman and beat a decent Maghera team in the semi final in Ballinderry but didn't turn up for the final.

Omagh probably deserving favourites and have players that have been there and done it. Might be a year early for Dungannon but you never know. This year's Rannafast team would be fancied to make an impression over next two years.


I think Paul Donaghy and Armagh's Ben Crealey were on the bench for that team as well. In fairness, most the lads you named were a year young in 2015. It's 2016 were they really missed the boat, losing a semi narrowly to Maghera

bennydorano

I think Aidan & Steffan Forker of Maghery both went to the Academy as well, could have been around 08-11 era.