Tyrone players reject austerity measures

Started by T Fearon, February 23, 2017, 10:41:35 PM

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screenexile

You see what happens when Tony starts a thread it gets completely ignored!!

A better version of the story on the newstalk website...

http://www.newstalk.com/tyrone-footballers-funding-issues

Interesting stuff!!

Dinny Breen

Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.
#newbridgeornowhere

rosnarun

are tyrone the Arsenal of the gaa
they're pretty good , haven't won in ages , manger  there way too long has be come a paranoid
Dictator , but by Christ they are going to keep a tight reign on the purse strings
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

screenexile

Probably still trying to recoup the cost of that diving pool in Cavanagh's back garden . . . he needs the practice in fairness!!

heffo

Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

AZOffaly

heffo, does the money make no difference then?

heffo

Quote from: AZOffaly on February 24, 2017, 01:04:53 PM
heffo, does the money make no difference then?

Well Kildare couldn't make it count yet the Nordies did.

So maybe in general you need once in a generation footballers, top class volunteer structures and a little spice of funding on top.

AZOffaly

Agreed. The money matters, but you have to spend it wisely, and have raw materials to work with. Of course when some of the money is ploughed into mining the raw material, that helps too :)

Syferus

Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

They ain't gonna win it with all the money in the world.

Croí na hÉireann

Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

I've played on that cowfield, it'd be up there with pitches other county teams train on. Probably better than some county grounds too.
Westmeath - Home of the Christy Ring Cup...

Dinny Breen

None is so blind as the one that refuses to see. Some day the penny will drop alas it's already too late to save the Leinster championship. Munster pretty much gone now as well. Money wins.
#newbridgeornowhere

Throw ball

Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

I would like to see all this money the British gave to help Armagh win an All Ireland. In the 90s due to Drumcree there were times Armagh couldn't train within the county for safety reasons. In the 2000s they didn't have a county ground to play on. Home championship games were played in Clones. Currently the county training facilities are basic at best. Meanwhile the Dubs get more money from Croke Park than others,  have the best sponsorship and the biggest pick.
I have no doubt that finance is having a major influence. It is more important now than at any time in history.

vallankumous

Quote from: Throw ball on February 25, 2017, 09:53:40 AM

I would like to see all this money the British gave to help Armagh win an All Ireland. In the 90s due to Drumcree there were times Armagh couldn't train within the county for safety reasons. In the 2000s they didn't have a county ground to play on. Home championship games were played in Clones. Currently the county training facilities are basic at best. Meanwhile the Dubs get more money from Croke Park than others,  have the best sponsorship and the biggest pick.
I have no doubt that finance is having a major influence. It is more important now than at any time in history.

Yes, it's massive.
Is it true that the St VIncents players all took the week preceding their All Ireland final off work to help prepare? Who could finance that?

Il Bomber Destro

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Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.


You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?


Of course you will be unable to substantiate that.