The Many Faces of US Politics...

Started by Tyrones own, March 20, 2009, 09:29:14 PM

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easytiger95

Difference being that the chief executive of the fruit of Islam website is in no danger of being appointed to a vastly influential position in the white house. I'm not sure the spencer example works for the comparison in question, but there is no doubt that breitbart fostered the rise of the alt right, and also that it was a direct editorial decision of Brannon.

So if we are comparing this era to the germany of the 1930s, we may not know 100 percent who the brownshirts are until they put them on. We do have a fairly good idea who have bee n measured for uniforms, messers bannon and miller foremost amongst them.
And by the time they have the uniform on, it's usually too late.

J70

Quote from: whitey on February 21, 2017, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: Declan on February 20, 2017, 03:29:16 PM
QuoteYou have seen them in Nazi attire? Did they ever claim to be Nazis or utter a single word defending Hitler and his minnions?

Evidence please.

NOV 21, 2016 
"Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!"

That's how Richard B. Spencer saluted more than 200 attendees on Saturday, gathered at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C., for the annual conference of the National Policy Institute, which describes itself as "an independent organization dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of  people of European descent in the United States, and around the world."

Spencer has popularized the term "alt-right" to describe the movement he leads. Spencer has said his dream is "a new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans," and has called for "peaceful ethnic cleansing."

For most of the day, a parade of speakers discussed their ideology in relatively anodyne terms, putting a presentable face on their agenda. But after dinner, when most journalists had already departed, Spencer rose and delivered a speech to his followers dripping with anti-Semitism, and leaving no doubt as to what he actually seeks. He referred to the mainstream media as "Lügenpresse," a term he said he was borrowing from "the original German"; the Nazis used the word to attack their critics in the press.

"America was until this past generation a white country designed for ourselves and our posterity," Spencer said. "It is our creation, it is our inheritance, and it belongs to us."   

The audience offered cheers, applause, and enthusiastic Nazi salutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk

What a pile of rubbish

If you went into some Nation of Islam event, I guarantee you would hear some equally outrageous nonsense just on the other side of the divide.  Would the main stream media attempt to attach ALL Democrats to such rhetoric?   Not on your bloody life!

Has the "mainstream media" attempted to link ALL Republicans to white supremacist rhetoric?

whitey

Theyve definitely tried their damdest to link ALL THE ONES THEY DONT LIKE to the Alt Right movement

easytiger95

Maybe they don't like them because of their links to white supremacists?

seafoid

Quote from: easytiger95 on February 21, 2017, 01:13:34 AM
Difference being that the chief executive of the fruit of Islam website is in no danger of being appointed to a vastly influential position in the white house. I'm not sure the spencer example works for the comparison in question, but there is no doubt that breitbart fostered the rise of the alt right, and also that it was a direct editorial decision of Brannon.

So if we are comparing this era to the germany of the 1930s, we may not know 100 percent who the brownshirts are until they put them on. We do have a fairly good idea who have bee n measured for uniforms, messers bannon and miller foremost amongst them.
And by the time they have the uniform on, it's usually too late.
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omochain

Quote from: whitey on February 21, 2017, 02:08:01 AM
Theyve definitely tried their damdest to link ALL THE ONES THEY DONT LIKE to the Alt Right movement
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As usual whitey.. no specifics.. can you give us all the names of the ones "they" don't like and can you please be explicit as to whom "they" are? By the way I am not holding my breath for an answer.  You have yet to answer any of my questions.

Declan

Meanwhile real peoples lives really count   >:(

Texas has highest maternal mortality rate in developed world, study finds
Molly Redden
@mtredden
 
The rate of Texas women who died from complications related to pregnancy doubled from 2010 to 2014, a new study has found, for an estimated maternal mortality rate that is unmatched in any other state and the rest of the developed world.
 
The finding comes from a report, appearing in the September issue of the journal Obstetrics and Gynecology, that the maternal mortality rate in the United States increased between 2000 and 2014, even while the rest of the world succeeded in reducing its rate. Excluding California, where maternal mortality declined, and Texas, where it surged, the estimated number of maternal deaths per 100,000 births rose to 23.8 in 2014 from 18.8 in 2000 – or about 27%.

But the report singled out Texas for special concern, saying the doubling of mortality rates in a two-year period was hard to explain "in the absence of war, natural disaster, or severe economic upheaval".

From 2000 to the end of 2010, Texas's estimated maternal mortality rate hovered between 17.7 and 18.6 per 100,000 births. But after 2010, that rate had leaped to 33 deaths per 100,000, and in 2014 it was 35.8. Between 2010 and 2014, more than 600 women died for reasons related to their pregnancies.

No other state saw a comparable increase.

In the wake of the report, reproductive health advocates are blaming the increase on Republican-led budget cuts that decimated the ranks of Texas's reproductive healthcare clinics. In 2011, just as the spike began, the Texas state legislature cut $73.6m from the state's family planning budget of $111.5m. The two-thirds cut forced more than 80 family planning clinics to shut down across the state. The remaining clinics managed to provide services – such as low-cost or free birth control, cancer screenings and well-woman exams – to only half as many women as before.
 
At the same time, Texas eliminated all Planned Parenthood clinics – whether or not they provided abortion services – from the state program that provides poor women with preventive healthcare. Previously, Planned Parenthood clinics in Texas offered cancer screenings and contraception to more than 130,000 women.

In 2013, Texas restored funding for the family planning budget to original levels. But the healthcare providers who survived the initial cuts reported struggles to restore services to their original levels.

Indeed, the report said it was "puzzling" that Texas's maternal mortality rate rose only modestly from 2000 to 2010 before doubling between 2011 and 2012. The researchers, hailing from the University of Maryland, Boston University's school of public health and Stanford University's medical school, called for further study. But they noted that starting in 2011, Texas drastically reduced the number of women's health clinics within its borders.

The report comes just as public health advocates are raising questions about Texas's ability to prepare for the Zika virus, which is transmitted by a common species of mosquito and has been linked to severe birth defects. The World Health Organization has advised women in areas of local transmission to delay pregnancy.

Texas is one of several southern states where health officials say there is a risk of a local outbreak. But about half the state lacks ready access to OB-GYN care, making it difficult for women to obtain contraception or for pregnant women to confirm the health of their babies. Just this month, Texas's health department drew fire for allocating $1.6m of the $18m the state budgets for low-income women's family planning to an anti-abortion group that does not provide basic health services.

"There is a need to redouble efforts to prevent maternal deaths and improve maternity care for the 4 million US women giving birth each year," the authors said.

seafoid

It's not just Texas, Declan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8VFxeRRZ6Q

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/11/10/american-right-inside-the-sacrifice-zone/

"Hochschild chooses southwest Louisiana for her "journey into the heart of the right" because it represents the most graphic version of what she calls the Great Paradox:
Across the country, red states are poorer and have more teen mothers, more divorce, worse health, more obesity, more trauma-related deaths, more low-birth-weight babies, and lower school enrollment. On average, people in red states die five years earlier than people in blue states. Indeed, the gap in life expectancy between Louisiana (75.7) and Connecticut (80.8) is the same as that between the United States and Nicaragua.
The more conservative you are, the worse off you are likely to be and the sooner you are likely to die. This holds even on the county level, Hochschild finds, after an analysis of EPA data shows a correlation between political views and exposure to pollution. Yet the very people most damaged by conservative policies are most likely to vote for them.
Nowhere is the abuse as frightening as in Louisiana—with the exception, perhaps, of its neighbor to the east ("Thank God for Mississippi!" is the unofficial state motto). Louisiana is the second-poorest state and second-to-last in human development, which is a measure of individual freedom. The state's rate of fatal cancers is about 30 percent higher than the national average. For all its antifederalism, Louisiana is fourth in accepting government welfare, with 44 percent of its budget coming from Washington. (Many of Hochschild's Tea Party friends are beneficiaries of federal welfare programs.) Louisiana has the highest rate of death by gunfire (nearly double the national average), the highest rate of incarceration, and is the fifth-least-educated, reflecting the fact that it spends the fifth-least on education. It is sixth in the nation in generating hazardous waste, and third in importing it, since it makes a side business out of storing other states' trash.
Louisiana's governor is among the most powerful chief executives in the nation, a legacy that dates back to Huey Long's administration, and under Governor Bobby Jindal's dictatorship, between 2008 and 2016, the state's prospects declined with unprecedented severity. After he reduced corporate income taxes and expanded the exemptions granted to oil and gas companies, the state's revenue tumbled roughly $3 billion. He transferred $1.6 billion from public schools and hospitals to oil companies in the form of new tax incentives, under the theory that the presence of oil and a robust petrochemical infrastructure were not incentives enough. (The Louisiana Legislature is not only soaked with oil and gas lobbyists—during a recent session there were seventy for 144 legislators—but many lawmakers themselves hold industry jobs while serving in office.) Jindal fired 30,000 state employees, furloughed many others, cut education funding by nearly half, and sold off as many state-owned parking lots, farms, and hospitals as he could.
Despite these punishing cuts, he managed over the course of his administration to turn a $900 million budget surplus into a $1.6 billion deficit. National agencies downgraded the state's credit rating. The damage was so great that it helped to bring about one of the most unlikely election results in recent American history. Jindal's successor is John Bel Edwards, a Democrat—the only one to hold statewide office. Edwards is vehemently pro-life and agnostic about climate change, but he is determined to hold the oil and gas industry responsible for funding their share of coastal restoration. He currently enjoys a 62.5 percent approval rating. Almost a year into his first term, however, despite several emergency measures, the state remains in arrears.
The paradox that most baffles Hochschild is the question of environmental pollution. Even the most ideologically driven zealots don't want to drink poisoned water, inhale toxic gas, or become susceptible to record flooding. Yet southwestern Louisiana combines some of the nation's most fervently antiregulatory voters with its most toxic environmental conditions. It is a center of climate change denial despite the fact that its coast faces the highest rate of sea-level rise on the planet.
Hochschild discovers a walking personification of these ironies in a Cajun oil rig engineer named Mike Schaff. In August 2012, Schaff was entering his home in Bayou Corne, about seventy miles west of New Orleans, when he was jolted by a tremor. His concrete living room floor cracked apart. The sound, said a neighbor, was like a "garbage truck had dropped a dumpster."
More than a mile beneath the bayou, a Houston-based drilling company named Texas Brine had drilled into a vast salt dome, ignoring warnings from its own engineer, with the complicity of the state's useless Department of Environmental Quality. (In Louisiana, environmental regulators are, in the words of an EPA investigation, "expected to protect industry.") Texas Brine drills for salt, which it sells to chlorine manufacturers, but other companies had used sections of the salt dome to store chemicals and oil. Texas Brine drilled too closely to an oil deposit and the structure ruptured, sucking down forest and causing seismic damage to the homes of 350 nearby residents. Officials began referring to Schaff's neighborhood as the "sacrifice zone."
Texas Brine refused to take responsibility for the accident. It claimed that earthquakes were common in the area (they are not) before blaming a different salt dome tenant for the collapse. If that wasn't enough, Texas Brine asked the state for permission to dump toxic wastewater into the very sinkhole it created. Jindal did not visit the site for seven months, though it is only forty miles south of the capital. Four years later the sinkhole is 750 feet deep at its center and has grown to thirty-five acres. Methane and other gases bubble up periodically. Residents who defied evacuation orders avoided lighting matches."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

whitey

Republicans are to blame for EVERYTHING.  Democrats and puppies are the victims here.

screenexile

Quote from: whitey on February 21, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
Republicans are to blame for EVERYTHING.  Democrats and puppies are the victims here.

You're starting to get it . . . don't forget to say a wee prayer for your poor snowflake friend Milo!!

J70

Quote from: whitey on February 21, 2017, 02:08:01 AM
Theyve definitely tried their damdest to link ALL THE ONES THEY DONT LIKE to the Alt Right movement

Such as?

J70

Quote from: whitey on February 21, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
Republicans are to blame for EVERYTHING.  Democrats and puppies are the victims here.

Who's saying that?

Stop whining and make your case!

Declan

QuoteRepublicans are to blame for EVERYTHING.  Democrats and puppies are the victims here.

Nah Whitey I'd never say that

A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN AMERICAN
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joes employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.
Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."


whitey

Joe was paying $15000 per year for healthcare now he's paying $26,000 with a $7,000 deductible

Joes property taxes have gone from $3500 per year to $6400 per year and yet his school district still has $10 M in unfunded pension liabilities

Joe pays $50,000 per year for EACH of his kids to attend college

Joes accounting and legal fees will increase by $150,000 this year at his small business directly due to compliance with new regulations (even though he works in an already super regulated industry)

Joe and his buddies keeps on plugging away because they have no other option

seafoid

Quote from: whitey on February 21, 2017, 02:06:23 PM
Joe was paying $15000 per year for healthcare now he's paying $26,000 with a $7,000 deductible

Joes property taxes have gone from $3500 per year to $6400 per year and yet his school district still has $10 M in unfunded pension liabilities

Joe pays $50,000 per year for EACH of his kids to attend college

Joes accounting and legal fees will increase by $150,000 this year at his small business directly due to compliance with new regulations (even though he works in an already super regulated industry)

Joe and his buddies keeps on plugging away because they have no other option
Joe votes GOP because he thinks they will help him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOuf69G7AQU
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU