China Coronavirus

[Taylor]

The asthmatic that was ill last week is still suffering.
Had to be rushed to hospital today where they tested him for a number of things but not Covid.
He actually asked why and they said their direction is to rule everything else out before doing the test.

What the genuine f**k?!?!

So basically place everyone who has been testing/caring/transporting him at risk of contracting an infectious disease by not first testing the patient for said infectious disease.

All for perception.

Whoever decided that policy should be straight in front of a firing squad never mind a judge.


Raging. Proper raging.

Absolutely shocking Radio.
He is proper fucked off in between the bouts of fever, coughing and serious problems breathing all while trying to isolate in a house with the wife and two kids.

Am quite sure there are instances like this (And worse) all over the UK

[RadioGAAGAA]

You must put in at least one positive point in your posts Radio, as must of them are morbid 

If I see good news I'll gladly post it.

Unfortunately to date there has been little beyond depressing & frustrating inaction or wrong decisions from the key decision makers that will really shape how this pans out.

Neil Ferguson's presentation earlier was a shaft of light, but that's all it was. If folks get complacent about distancing, we're swiftly going backwards again.

(and I think London's fucked)

[Milltown Row2]

13 weeks, if we can do that we'll hopefully get closer to a bringing down the cases

[Never beat the deeler]

I see the States has surpassed China for no of cases (usual disclaimer about: number of tests not the same; can't trust the Chinese numbers)

The total cases seem to be increasing by over 2 x the world average

Date   tot US cases   new US cases   daily increase      tot world cases   new world cases   
5-Mar    221             98425      
6-Mar    319     98    44%      102050    3,625    4%
7-Mar    435     116    36%      106099    4,049    4%
8-Mar    541     106    24%      109991    3,892    4%
9-Mar    704     163    30%      114381    4,390    4%
10-Mar    994     290    41%      118948    4,567    4%
11-Mar    1,301     307    31%      126214    7,266    6%
12-Mar    1,630     329    25%      134509    8,295    7%
13-Mar    2,183     553    34%      145416    10,907    8%
14-Mar    2,770     587    27%      156475    11,059    8%
15-Mar    3,613     843    30%      169517    13,042    8%
16-Mar    4,596     983    27%      182414    12,897    8%
17-Mar    6,344     1,748    38%      198159    15,745    9%
18-Mar    9,197     2,853    45%      218744    20,585    10%
19-Mar    13,779     4,582    50%      244902    26,158    12%
20-Mar    19,367     5,588    41%      275550    30,648    13%
21-Mar    24,192     4,825    25%      304979    29,429    11%
22-Mar    33,592     9,400    39%      337459    32,480    11%
23-Mar    43,781     10,189    30%      378830    41,371    12%
24-Mar    54,856     11,075    25%      422574    43,744    12%
25-Mar    68,211     13,355    24%      471035    48,461    11%

[Main Street]

Interesting  to compare Sweden, Norway and Iceland

Sweden's on a light lockdown similar to South Korea  - people are trusted to act responsibly. restaurants and pubs are open , people are seated only and with some space in between
Norway is on a strict lockdown
Iceland is somewhere in between, but veering towards the lighter side.

Tests are fewer in Sweden, people are only tested if there is good cause.  Norway and Iceland test as many as they can.

Sweden 10.3m population  on 22 March,  24.500  tests, 1934 cases, 22 deaths.

Norway 5.4m population   On 25 March 2020 -  73,892 tests, 3,346 confirmed cases,  265 hospitalised, (70 on respirator) and 14 deaths
Iceland, most all first infected were returnees from ski trips Tirol/Austria/North Italy/Switz.

population  365,000   on 25 March  12,615 tests,   802  confirmed cases,  hospitalised 17 (3 intensive care),    1 dead  and 2nd death was a tourist who arrived half dead.

I never took to skiing and now my choice in life is finally vindicated.

Overall Sweden comes out good, not much diffferent to lockdown Norway,  there's a greater toleration of the natural immunity approach and forward thinking towards the likelihood of  2nd and 3rd wave, which has some  similarities to South Korea's policy.

The  Iceland and Norway  wide testing policy indicate  between 0.5%  to 0.7%  confirmed cases in the general population.
There's no data  that I could find on the levels of severity,  you either have it or are in hospital. 

[ned]

Interesting  to compare Sweden, Norway and Iceland

Sweden's on a light lockdown similar to South Korea  - people are trusted to act responsibly. restaurants and pubs are open , people are seated only and with some space in between
Norway is on a strict lockdown
Iceland is somewhere in between, but veering towards the lighter side.

Tests are fewer in Sweden, people are only tested if there is good cause.  Norway and Iceland test as many as they can.

Sweden 10.3m population  on 22 March,  24.500  tests, 1934 cases, 22 deaths.

Norway 5.4m population   On 25 March 2020 -  73,892 tests, 3,346 confirmed cases,  265 hospitalised, (70 on respirator) and 14 deaths
Iceland, most all first infected were returnees from ski trips Tirol/Austria/North Italy/Switz.

population  365,000   on 25 March  12,615 tests,   802  confirmed cases,  hospitalised 17 (3 intensive care),    1 dead  and 2nd death was a tourist who arrived half dead.

I never took to skiing and now my choice in life is finally vindicated.

Overall Sweden comes out good, not much diffferent to lockdown Norway,  there's a greater toleration of the natural immunity approach and forward thinking towards the likelihood of  2nd and 3rd wave, which has some  similarities to South Korea's policy.

The  Iceland and Norway  wide testing policy indicate  between 0.5%  to 0.7%  confirmed cases in the general population.
There's no data  that I could find on the levels of severity,  you either have it or are in hospital.

3 days can make a difference. Go look at number of deaths in Sweden now. They also gave a higher % of cases to tests!

[Main Street]

Interesting  to compare Sweden, Norway and Iceland

Sweden's on a light lockdown similar to South Korea  - people are trusted to act responsibly. restaurants and pubs are open , people are seated only and with some space in between
Norway is on a strict lockdown
Iceland is somewhere in between, but veering towards the lighter side.

Tests are fewer in Sweden, people are only tested if there is good cause.  Norway and Iceland test as many as they can.

Sweden 10.3m population  on 22 March,  24.500  tests, 1934 cases, 22 deaths.

Norway 5.4m population   On 25 March 2020 -  73,892 tests, 3,346 confirmed cases,  265 hospitalised, (70 on respirator) and 14 deaths
Iceland, most all first infected were returnees from ski trips Tirol/Austria/North Italy/Switz.

population  365,000   on 25 March  12,615 tests,   802  confirmed cases,  hospitalised 17 (3 intensive care),    1 dead  and 2nd death was a tourist who arrived half dead.

I never took to skiing and now my choice in life is finally vindicated.

Overall Sweden comes out good, not much diffferent to lockdown Norway,  there's a greater toleration of the natural immunity approach and forward thinking towards the likelihood of  2nd and 3rd wave, which has some  similarities to South Korea's policy.

The  Iceland and Norway  wide testing policy indicate  between 0.5%  to 0.7%  confirmed cases in the general population.
There's no data  that I could find on the levels of severity,  you either have it or are in hospital.

3 days can make a difference. Go look at number of deaths in Sweden now. They also gave a higher % of cases to tests!

As I very clearly wrote,  Sweden only test people with good cause, both Norway and Iceland test as many as they can, with and without cause.  Cause means -  flu like symptoms.
Therefore Sweden "have a higher % of cases to test"

[ned]

Interesting  to compare Sweden, Norway and Iceland

Sweden's on a light lockdown similar to South Korea  - people are trusted to act responsibly. restaurants and pubs are open , people are seated only and with some space in between
Norway is on a strict lockdown
Iceland is somewhere in between, but veering towards the lighter side.

Tests are fewer in Sweden, people are only tested if there is good cause.  Norway and Iceland test as many as they can.

Sweden 10.3m population  on 22 March,  24.500  tests, 1934 cases, 22 deaths.

Norway 5.4m population   On 25 March 2020 -  73,892 tests, 3,346 confirmed cases,  265 hospitalised, (70 on respirator) and 14 deaths
Iceland, most all first infected were returnees from ski trips Tirol/Austria/North Italy/Switz.

population  365,000   on 25 March  12,615 tests,   802  confirmed cases,  hospitalised 17 (3 intensive care),    1 dead  and 2nd death was a tourist who arrived half dead.

I never took to skiing and now my choice in life is finally vindicated.

Overall Sweden comes out good, not much diffferent to lockdown Norway,  there's a greater toleration of the natural immunity approach and forward thinking towards the likelihood of  2nd and 3rd wave, which has some  similarities to South Korea's policy.

The  Iceland and Norway  wide testing policy indicate  between 0.5%  to 0.7%  confirmed cases in the general population.
There's no data  that I could find on the levels of severity,  you either have it or are in hospital.

3 days can make a difference. Go look at number of deaths in Sweden now. They also gave a higher % of cases to tests!

As I very clearly wrote,  Sweden only test people with good cause, both Norway and Iceland test as many as they can, with and without cause.  Cause means -  flu like symptoms.
Therefore Sweden "have a higher % of cases to test"

That wasn't the main point.

[armaghniac]

Interesting  to compare Sweden, Norway and Iceland

Sweden's on a light lockdown similar to South Korea  - people are trusted to act responsibly. restaurants and pubs are open , people are seated only and with some space in between
Norway is on a strict lockdown
Iceland is somewhere in between, but veering towards the lighter side.

Tests are fewer in Sweden, people are only tested if there is good cause.  Norway and Iceland test as many as they can.

Sweden 10.3m population  on 22 March,  24.500  tests, 1934 cases, 22 deaths.

Norway 5.4m population   On 25 March 2020 -  73,892 tests, 3,346 confirmed cases,  265 hospitalised, (70 on respirator) and 14 deaths
Iceland, most all first infected were returnees from ski trips Tirol/Austria/North Italy/Switz.

Sweden has 71 deaths in total today. Deaths can lag a bit, you'll see Norway doing much better as time goes by.

[Main Street]

Interesting  to compare Sweden, Norway and Iceland

Sweden's on a light lockdown similar to South Korea  - people are trusted to act responsibly. restaurants and pubs are open , people are seated only and with some space in between
Norway is on a strict lockdown
Iceland is somewhere in between, but veering towards the lighter side.

Tests are fewer in Sweden, people are only tested if there is good cause.  Norway and Iceland test as many as they can.

Sweden 10.3m population  on 22 March,  24.500  tests, 1934 cases, 22 deaths.

Norway 5.4m population   On 25 March 2020 -  73,892 tests, 3,346 confirmed cases,  265 hospitalised, (70 on respirator) and 14 deaths
Iceland, most all first infected were returnees from ski trips Tirol/Austria/North Italy/Switz.

population  365,000   on 25 March  12,615 tests,   802  confirmed cases,  hospitalised 17 (3 intensive care),    1 dead  and 2nd death was a tourist who arrived half dead.

I never took to skiing and now my choice in life is finally vindicated.

Overall Sweden comes out good, not much diffferent to lockdown Norway,  there's a greater toleration of the natural immunity approach and forward thinking towards the likelihood of  2nd and 3rd wave, which has some  similarities to South Korea's policy.

The  Iceland and Norway  wide testing policy indicate  between 0.5%  to 0.7%  confirmed cases in the general population.
There's no data  that I could find on the levels of severity,  you either have it or are in hospital.

3 days can make a difference. Go look at number of deaths in Sweden now. They also gave a higher % of cases to tests!

As I very clearly wrote,  Sweden only test people with good cause, both Norway and Iceland test as many as they can, with and without cause.  Cause means -  flu like symptoms.
Therefore Sweden "have a higher % of cases to test"

That wasn't the main point.

It was a faulty point and clearly demonstrates that you can't evaluate information objectively.

[Main Street]

Interesting  to compare Sweden, Norway and Iceland

Sweden's on a light lockdown similar to South Korea  - people are trusted to act responsibly. restaurants and pubs are open , people are seated only and with some space in between
Norway is on a strict lockdown
Iceland is somewhere in between, but veering towards the lighter side.

Tests are fewer in Sweden, people are only tested if there is good cause.  Norway and Iceland test as many as they can.

Sweden 10.3m population  on 22 March,  24.500  tests, 1934 cases, 22 deaths.

Norway 5.4m population   On 25 March 2020 -  73,892 tests, 3,346 confirmed cases,  265 hospitalised, (70 on respirator) and 14 deaths
Iceland, most all first infected were returnees from ski trips Tirol/Austria/North Italy/Switz.

Sweden has 71 deaths in total today. Deaths can lag a bit, you'll see Norway doing much better as time goes by.

You sound like PM Johnson, make a prediction -   without the substance.
How about Iceland's stats?

[marty34]

How many are the firm in Galway making ?

I take it the south has demanded that they are used in the south?

Do they send them all over Europe also or do they just send everything they make now to the HSE?

You'd think the Dublin government would be offering them big grant money (for the future) to keep everything they make in Ireland at present.

[Eamonnca1]

The asthmatic that was ill last week is still suffering.
Had to be rushed to hospital today where they tested him for a number of things but not Covid.
He actually asked why and they said their direction is to rule everything else out before doing the test.

What the genuine f**k?!?!

So basically place everyone who has been testing/caring/transporting him at risk of contracting an infectious disease by not first testing the patient for said infectious disease.

All for perception.

Whoever decided that policy should be straight in front of a firing squad never mind a judge.


Raging. Proper raging.

Is it possible there's a shortage of Covid testing resources? When our little one was admitted for pneumonia a few weeks ago she didn't get tested for Covid.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

How many are the firm in Galway making ?

I take it the south has demanded that they are used in the south?

Medtronic Galway, big set up, very professional company, not sure numbers but doubled staff in thst section 2 weeks ago

[armaghniac]

Overall Sweden comes out good, not much diffferent to lockdown Norway,  there's a greater toleration of the natural immunity approach and forward thinking towards the likelihood of  2nd and 3rd wave, which has some  similarities to South Korea's policy.

This is nonsense, South Korea is testing left right and centre and regards the natural immunity approach as bollix.

You sound like PM Johnson, make a prediction -   without the substance.

Norway is testing widely, and can afford it, they will get it under control.

How about Iceland's stats?

Given the size of the place, I think Iceland will succesfully track down the virus by testing and tracing.