NFL Division 1 2024

[tbrick18]

Dublin are well ahead of the rest at the minute, but tyrone made them look even better.
Tyrone were brutal.
Nothing going forward at all, pot shots at best. No creativity at all.
Dublin could have scored another 4 ot 5 goals but for morgan.
The speed they attack with is awesome, the kicking game really worked, but tyrone defense was very naieve and slow.

Maybe if tyrone had everyone fit and able they'd do better, but that was shambolic today.

Hopefully Derry put it up to them, a loss wouldn't be the end if the world but really need to be competitive.

Just wondering!
Were you at the game or did you see a recording of it?
If you did is it available somewhere?

I was at it.
Not sure if it can ve watched anywhere.

[tbrick18]

Dublin are well ahead of the rest at the minute, but tyrone made them look even better.
Tyrone were brutal.
Nothing going forward at all, pot shots at best. No creativity at all.
Dublin could have scored another 4 ot 5 goals but for morgan.
The speed they attack with is awesome, the kicking game really worked, but tyrone defense was very naieve and slow.

Maybe if tyrone had everyone fit and able they'd do better, but that was shambolic today.

Hopefully Derry put it up to them, a loss wouldn't be the end if the world but really need to be competitive.

Galway full out can give them a game but not sure that will happen

Not as it stands they can't.
Full strength Galway would not beat full Dublin.
Galway haven't shown much this year yet and I think it is unrealistic to expect them to challenge even if comer et al return. Can't just show up after that long out injured and be back to top level.
I think it could be a short year for Galway.

[Derryman forever]

Dublin are well ahead of the rest at the minute, but tyrone made them look even better.
Tyrone were brutal.
Nothing going forward at all, pot shots at best. No creativity at all.
Dublin could have scored another 4 ot 5 goals but for morgan.
The speed they attack with is awesome, the kicking game really worked, but tyrone defense was very naieve and slow.

Maybe if tyrone had everyone fit and able they'd do better, but that was shambolic today.

Hopefully Derry put it up to them, a loss wouldn't be the end if the world but really need to be competitive.

Just wondering!
Were you at the game or did you see a recording of it?
If you did is it available somewhere?

I was at it.
Not sure if it can ve watched anywhere.

Cheers

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Paul Flynn and Sean Cavanagh went out of their way to talk up Derry and both really looking forward to the final.

Sean believes Tyrone shouldn't be losing to any team by 20 points, the defending by Tyrone was as bad as I've seen from a Div 1 side in Croke Park.

[Wildweasel74]

Watching that Kerry game there, they wouldn't be too hot on with without the Clifford's. If D Clifford gets injured I wouldn't think they have enough to go by the last 8

[Eire90]

do you think dublin will try and  blitz derry like they did with tyrone to put down and statement and a psychological blow to mickey harte and derry say dublin hammer derry by 15 points

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do you think dublin will try and  blitz derry like they did with tyrone to put down and statement and a psychological blow to mickey harte and derry say dublin hammer derry by 15 points

Yes

[93-DY-SAM]

do you think dublin will try and  blitz derry like they did with tyrone to put down and statement and a psychological blow to mickey harte and derry say dublin hammer derry by 15 points

Yes

Absolutely. And no better place for them to be blitzing teams than in Croke Park. But that's a different argument.

[tbrick18]

do you think dublin will try and  blitz derry like they did with tyrone to put down and statement and a psychological blow to mickey harte and derry say dublin hammer derry by 15 points

Of course they will.
They'll want to put Derry back in their box as pretenders to an AI.

Interesting point someone made about our goalkeeper pushing up and the speed of attack from Dublin. It's certainly a concern but I think we have to play our own game.
Dublin at times against Tyrone, early in the first half before it got completely away from Tyrone, had 15 men behind the ball in their own half, or even inside the 45.
Tyrone couldn't make inroads and either were turned over or hit wides, but were then really slow to get back whereas Dublin bombed forward.
I think it's something Derry will have to watch for in game and make that judgement call on when to push up and when not to.
Tyrone's attack were too lateral, I think Derry will be more direct too and will run at the Dublin defence.
I think running at them is the only chance you have to get through them, so it will have to be a high risk approach to the match for Derry I think. Commit players forward, push up on the Dublin kickouts (including Lynch) and filter back at speed.
I do think Derry are better than Tyrone and I really hope we don't let Dublin get a head of steam up early.

Every game is on the day, but Dublin will be raging hot favourites.

I was at the Dublin v Tyrone game, and the speed they move the ball at, the accuracy of the their kick passing is next level, and their work rate is just so so high. And that was them without a raft of players. Its scary how good they were, but another part of me thinks that Tyrone made them look really good too as they were so poor. I suspect they are not just as good as they looked yesterday, but they are still awesome.

Derry will ask more of them than Tyrone, will compete in the middle sector, will attack from everywhere and have some top rate defenders. Match ups in defence will be key. McKaigue doesn't have the legs to man mark a Con O'Callaghan , so potentially McEvoy there. Hopefully McKinless is fit to play, a huge loss if not.

[93-DY-SAM]

do you think dublin will try and  blitz derry like they did with tyrone to put down and statement and a psychological blow to mickey harte and derry say dublin hammer derry by 15 points

Of course they will.
They'll want to put Derry back in their box as pretenders to an AI.

Interesting point someone made about our goalkeeper pushing up and the speed of attack from Dublin. It's certainly a concern but I think we have to play our own game.
Dublin at times against Tyrone, early in the first half before it got completely away from Tyrone, had 15 men behind the ball in their own half, or even inside the 45.
Tyrone couldn't make inroads and either were turned over or hit wides, but were then really slow to get back whereas Dublin bombed forward.
I think it's something Derry will have to watch for in game and make that judgement call on when to push up and when not to.
Tyrone's attack were too lateral, I think Derry will be more direct too and will run at the Dublin defence.
I think running at them is the only chance you have to get through them, so it will have to be a high risk approach to the match for Derry I think. Commit players forward, push up on the Dublin kickouts (including Lynch) and filter back at speed.
I do think Derry are better than Tyrone and I really hope we don't let Dublin get a head of steam up early.

Every game is on the day, but Dublin will be raging hot favourites.

I was at the Dublin v Tyrone game, and the speed they move the ball at, the accuracy of the their kick passing is next level, and their work rate is just so so high. And that was them without a raft of players. Its scary how good they were, but another part of me thinks that Tyrone made them look really good too as they were so poor. I suspect they are not just as good as they looked yesterday, but they are still awesome.

Derry will ask more of them than Tyrone, will compete in the middle sector, will attack from everywhere and have some top rate defenders. Match ups in defence will be key. McKaigue doesn't have the legs to man mark a Con O'Callaghan , so potentially McEvoy there. Hopefully McKinless is fit to play, a huge loss if not.

McKinless if he doesn't play is a big loss surely but he'll be a bigger loss if he plays and gets a further setback going into the Donegal game. That's only 3 weeks away this weekend. I'd prefer he sits this one out if there is any jeopardy to him playing in that game.

Roscommon had a serious amount of goal chances yesterday and the Dubs won't miss many of those.

[Wildweasel74]

Derry were ahead of Dublin at Halftime in the Division 2 league final last year. But missing a few key players left us badly exposed in the 2nd half. McAvoy better suited to full back, and Gilmore showing enough to hold down a half back position but McKeigue has played well enough this year too.

[Wildweasel74]

Derry should rattled the net qbout 4 times yesterday, but yes definitely give Roscommon the same amount.Alot if players were playing further up the field yesterday and not dropping back as far. This leaving more gaps at the back.

[tbrick18]

do you think dublin will try and  blitz derry like they did with tyrone to put down and statement and a psychological blow to mickey harte and derry say dublin hammer derry by 15 points

Of course they will.
They'll want to put Derry back in their box as pretenders to an AI.

Interesting point someone made about our goalkeeper pushing up and the speed of attack from Dublin. It's certainly a concern but I think we have to play our own game.
Dublin at times against Tyrone, early in the first half before it got completely away from Tyrone, had 15 men behind the ball in their own half, or even inside the 45.
Tyrone couldn't make inroads and either were turned over or hit wides, but were then really slow to get back whereas Dublin bombed forward.
I think it's something Derry will have to watch for in game and make that judgement call on when to push up and when not to.
Tyrone's attack were too lateral, I think Derry will be more direct too and will run at the Dublin defence.
I think running at them is the only chance you have to get through them, so it will have to be a high risk approach to the match for Derry I think. Commit players forward, push up on the Dublin kickouts (including Lynch) and filter back at speed.
I do think Derry are better than Tyrone and I really hope we don't let Dublin get a head of steam up early.

Every game is on the day, but Dublin will be raging hot favourites.

I was at the Dublin v Tyrone game, and the speed they move the ball at, the accuracy of the their kick passing is next level, and their work rate is just so so high. And that was them without a raft of players. Its scary how good they were, but another part of me thinks that Tyrone made them look really good too as they were so poor. I suspect they are not just as good as they looked yesterday, but they are still awesome.

Derry will ask more of them than Tyrone, will compete in the middle sector, will attack from everywhere and have some top rate defenders. Match ups in defence will be key. McKaigue doesn't have the legs to man mark a Con O'Callaghan , so potentially McEvoy there. Hopefully McKinless is fit to play, a huge loss if not.

McKinless if he doesn't play is a big loss surely but he'll be a bigger loss if he plays and gets a further setback going into the Donegal game. That's only 3 weeks away this weekend. I'd prefer he sits this one out if there is any jeopardy to him playing in that game.

Roscommon had a serious amount of goal chances yesterday and the Dubs won't miss many of those.

Agree on McKinless. He's one of the most important players we have, be great to see him against the dubs but absolutely if there's any risk to him it shouldn't be chanced.

I wouldn't be overly concerned about coughing up goal chances to Roscommon. It was a game we didn't really need to win, we didn't start our strongest 15, and when we needed to we pulled away with ease.
Lynch and Conor Doherty both returning from injury, and McGuigan didn't fire on all cylinders.

I'd imagine we'll concede goal chances to Dublin, but if we can keep them to 1 or 2, I think we have a goal or 2 in us. Really looking forward to it, will be the first true gauge of where we are this year. Losing wouldn't be the end of the world so long as we are competitive throughout.

[Mario]

Derry were ahead of Dublin at Halftime in the Division 2 league final last year. But missing a few key players left us badly exposed in the 2nd half. McAvoy better suited to full back, and Gilmore showing enough to hold down a half back position but McKeigue has played well enough this year too.

3 of the Dublin goals were very fortunate that day. The first one was a very obvious square ball, the second was a penalty that was very soft and there was another that was a point effort that went in top corner. It all happened without Glass and McKaigue on the pitch too.