Falls from Grace

Started by general_lee, September 18, 2023, 03:58:00 PM

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stephenite

Sad state of affairs indeed to see Killererin relegated to Junior

shark

Their pick is really small though. Clubs of that size are always going to have periods of time when they don't have enough quality to counter the lack of numbers.

DownFanatic

Newry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

trailer

Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

Armagh18

Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.

johnnycool

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.

There used to be a Newry Bosco club I believe, are they still on the go?

trailer

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.

Mad Ted, they've two big GAA schools as well, Abbey and St Colman's.

Mourne Red

Quote from: johnnycool on October 24, 2023, 10:19:44 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.

There used to be a Newry Bosco club I believe, are they still on the go?

Yep Bosco still on the go - Won Division 4 this year so back into Div 3. Play intermediate in championship

Nanderson

Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

The thing is with Mitchels is why would you go and play for them when you have Newry Shamrocks less than 500m up the road. The location isn't great either as its down the end of an industrial estate so it doesn't have any local residents that would be drawn into it because its their nearest club

clonian

Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:26:42 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.

Mad Ted, they've two big GAA schools as well, Abbey and St Colman's.

You wouldn't have many from Newry on either of those teams though. Abbey would of had more Newry lads over the years.

Armagh18

Quote from: johnnycool on October 24, 2023, 10:19:44 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.

There used to be a Newry Bosco club I believe, are they still on the go?
Forgot about them actually. Wouldn't be top level either but still going

Mourne Red

Quote from: Nanderson on October 24, 2023, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

The thing is with Mitchels is why would you go and play for them when you have Newry Shamrocks less than 500m up the road. The location isn't great either as its down the end of an industrial estate so it doesn't have any local residents that would be drawn into it because its their nearest club

They lost that pitch a few years ago, council sold it to turn it into a new road.. Based out in Derryleckagh playing fields since then, had boys playing into their 40s trying to keep it going but unfortunately no youth teams in place so couldn't replace them

Armagh18

Quote from: Mourne Red on October 24, 2023, 11:21:11 AM
Quote from: Nanderson on October 24, 2023, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?

The thing is with Mitchels is why would you go and play for them when you have Newry Shamrocks less than 500m up the road. The location isn't great either as its down the end of an industrial estate so it doesn't have any local residents that would be drawn into it because its their nearest club

They lost that pitch a few years ago, council sold it to turn it into a new road.. Based out in Derryleckagh playing fields since then, had boys playing into their 40s trying to keep it going but unfortunately no youth teams in place so couldn't replace them

They were playing this year I'm near sure. Seen them advertising looking players on facebook

general_lee

Do Mitchels have a social club or anything? Always wondered how they managed to get by down where they were. Have they officially folded?

Newry is a big sprawling town/city with a handful of clubs on the outskirts who are essentially Newry clubs in all but name. 

Feckitt

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!