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The Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

Yeah this is a precarious enough situation as Irans, Russias etc etc could very well get involved here and if that happens it has the potential to get very very messy. It would appear the "west" will side with Israel no matter what 

Do you think they should side with Iran ?

They should side with innocent men, women and children and bring pressure on Israel and Hamas to f**king stop attacking each other. Hamas are a bundle of Muslim psychopaths as well.
The West created this mess so they should sort it out. If that means committing troops then so be it. 

Hamas are not a bundle of Muslim psychopaths, they are part of the resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They have the right to resist and right to self determination
under international law. ( to be clear they don't have the right to breach int law) They won elections in 2006, updated charter and recognoised israel in 2017 and they have offered numerous ceasefires which I shared a timesofisrael link to recently. Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation and oppression of Israel and its enablers.

This is terrible shit, altogether. Hamas wilfully started this latest round of slaughter. They knew what would happen to their own people, and they still went ahead and 'prodded the tiger', as they say. It was no way an act of 'resistance', it was deliberately goading Israel. "Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation..."? Puh. Israel wouldn't have killed 8,000 if Hamas hadn't moved. NOTHING in geopolitics happens for no reason. And, yes, Hamas are a bag of Muslim psychos.

Don't think Ireland or NZ, as good as the game was, could have come close to the level both SA and France were at in theirs.

Definitely not. However, don't understand why McKenzie wasn't on earlier, esp. when their conversion kicker was so poor. He'd have nailed that one, whatever about the one Barret missed.

Ah lads, could ye not have been looking at the rugby?!

The power of religion. Or the danger of religion. Goes beyond money.

religion is not the main point, just as in the 6 counties.

Can these people be accused of being anti Semites
https://twitter.com/jvplive/status/1718030480459620604

Religion is a big marker of identity and ethnicity. I reckon, just as in the Six Counties, there'd have been nothing if everyone was the same (sect of the same) religion.

It's all very well for them ones to wring their hands in the safety of NYC. It's meaningless. They're not threatened by the terror of Hamas.

Israel wants to wipe Gaza out.

 

Hamas - and pretty much the entire middle east - want to wipe Israel out. I suppose America is Israel's only guarantor, and the only reason Israel can exist at all. The Jews in America (and Europe) have a lot of money and influence. Sadly.
I don't begrudge the Jews their ethno-state. Why, though, do they begrudge it to anyone else?!

New Senior Management Team confirmed , what's the thoughts on this ?

Underwhelming!

You'd have expected him to get it, though - no?

Is the terminology not completely wrong here too. They're not illegal immigrants they're asylum seekers. They seek asylum and if they don't get it then at that point they're illegal immigrants?

They need to be given the chance to appeal and if they fail then they will be removed. 

Except the removal part barely ever happens.

Except it does. More often then not

You're full of it. Hardly anyone gets deported. The figure is something like 7%. Could be slightly more - I posted the exact percentage on this discussion a while ago - but it's certainly way, way less than 20%. Forced deportations are even rarer.

Is the terminology not completely wrong here too. They're not illegal immigrants they're asylum seekers. They seek asylum and if they don't get it then at that point they're illegal immigrants?

They need to be given the chance to appeal and if they fail then they will be removed. 

Except the removal part barely ever happens.

I think Austin Powers has answered that. It was comparatively sparsely populated in the 1940s, and obviously a bit bigger.

Presumably burdizzo would rid the six counties of GAA fans.
As for Germans, perhaps they should have made East Prussia the homeland for European Jews?

Why would I do that?? Being a GAA fan myself?

No, Madagascar was the plan, and they should have stuck with it. They couldn't expand further than the bounds of the island or cause trouble. Mind you, they'd probably still cause trouble...

Yep. Was it not the following day after the British pulled out that the surrounding Arab nations invaded? 3/4 million Palestinians were then displaced in the war and neither or their descendants have ever returned to their lands or homes and many of them are still in refugee facilities. Like you, I get their opposition at the time, but that was the high point for what was going to be available to them. With this folk memory, would any Gazan Palestinian who still wants to live out their life there dare to leave?

How many Germans fled from their lands after the second world war? I know they lost and all, but you don't hear them going on about it. Why is their cause so different to the Palestinians'?

there was a civil war in Ireland over letting the Brits keep 6 counties. Imagine the uproar if the UN handed over 16.

Eh? When was this?!!

Dies Netanyahu and his gang of thugs realise that they have created maybe 50,000 new guerrillas to fight them in the future by their indiscriminate bombing and killing of Civilians including 2,000 children

Arrogant use of brute force seldom pays off.

Dunno. Look at Hiroshima. Look at Nagasaki. Even Dresden. If anything, the Israelis aren't going hard enough. I remember our old history teacher saying there's no use in being half-assed about using force: either don't use it at all, or use it so brutally that the population will be cowed into submission. Thus, if there's a sniper in a block of flats, destroy the whole block of flats. Make the populace see there's no profit in harbouring insurgents. He was talking about putting down unrest in the Eastern Bloc countries (and he was a communist), but the same could apply here. Mind you, the Israelis are possibly getting there in the brutality stakes.