Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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twohands!!!

Quote from: thebigfullforward on March 14, 2025, 08:44:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2025, 05:44:32 PMI remember a period of youthful destruction and trying to hurl...

Been a regular on senior team for many years but the weekends out were having an effect on my defensive game..

Needless to say after a couple of games were I gave away a load of frees I was hooked!

Took me 2 more weekends to 'catch myself on' no more frees and stayed on the team there after!

The players give away the frees, they know the punishments but if they continue to do it then the problem is not only the player but the manager for picking him!
No more frees lol? If I was a manager I'd be taking you off for that. Sounds a bit passive  ;)

Give how scoreable so many frees are, any defender who is fouls regularly is a bad defender in my book.
I remember seeing some stats before and there was a very high correlation between the team who gave away the least frees and the match winners for intercounty teams. I presume it's even higher for club games. The amount of time a defender fouls an opposition player who is only delighted to get the free at club level is way too high.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: twohands!!! on March 14, 2025, 11:21:01 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on March 14, 2025, 08:44:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2025, 05:44:32 PMI remember a period of youthful destruction and trying to hurl...

Been a regular on senior team for many years but the weekends out were having an effect on my defensive game..

Needless to say after a couple of games were I gave away a load of frees I was hooked!

Took me 2 more weekends to 'catch myself on' no more frees and stayed on the team there after!

The players give away the frees, they know the punishments but if they continue to do it then the problem is not only the player but the manager for picking him!
No more frees lol? If I was a manager I'd be taking you off for that. Sounds a bit passive  ;)

Give how scoreable so many frees are, any defender who is fouls regularly is a bad defender in my book.
I remember seeing some stats before and there was a very high correlation between the team who gave away the least frees and the match winners for intercounty teams. I presume it's even higher for club games. The amount of time a defender fouls an opposition player who is only delighted to get the free at club level is way too high.

If I (or players I managed) couldn't get to the ball first, you are left with two options, making him take a shot under pressure, he scores will at least it will have been under pressure and he's taken it well, the other option was to overturn the ball in a tackle or blocking it and retrieving it after, a Hollywood block is useless if the player take the score afterwards..

Fouling as you said is a free takers dream! 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

inroundthesquare

In the Cavan-Down game, Down were caught for a breach of the 3v3 rule. The referee played advantage as Cavan were attacking. Cavan had the ball around midfield worked it up to the forward line where Gearoid McKiernan kicked a one point score from play to level the game.
Would Cavan have been better stopping or kicking the ball out of the play, so that they got the option of either a 2 point free at the edge of the 40m arc or worst case a tap over free in front of the posts. By going for a one point score from play and getting it this was deemed as the advantage being accrued.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: inroundthesquare on March 14, 2025, 02:55:40 PMIn the Cavan-Down game, Down were caught for a breach of the 3v3 rule. The referee played advantage as Cavan were attacking. Cavan had the ball around midfield worked it up to the forward line where Gearoid McKiernan kicked a one point score from play to level the game.
Would Cavan have been better stopping or kicking the ball out of the play, so that they got the option of either a 2 point free at the edge of the 40m arc or worst case a tap over free in front of the posts. By going for a one point score from play and getting it this was deemed as the advantage being accrued.

Was it a case that it would have just been a free on the halfway line? Or was this the old rules lol
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Gianni

Quote from: JoG2 on March 14, 2025, 10:51:16 AMMarty and Doc are looking their DeLorean back
Ok, but what do you think about my doubts about the rules?

Truthsayer

#2300
At first club game of the year - huge improvement!... however umpire and ref can't seem to judge 2 pointers! Twice clearly outside arc not given..

marty34

Quote from: Truthsayer on March 15, 2025, 02:21:25 PMAt first club game of the year - huge improvement!... however umpire and ref can't seem to judge 2 pointers! Twice clearly outside arc not given..

Umpires definately can't see where the arc is.  Impossible for them.

Truthsayer

Quote from: marty34 on March 15, 2025, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on March 15, 2025, 02:21:25 PMAt first club game of the year - huge improvement!... however umpire and ref can't seem to judge 2 pointers! Twice clearly outside arc not given..

Umpires definately can't see where the arc is.  Impossible for them.
That was the issue. Linesman and umpire from team that scored didn't signal them and ref missed them. As clear as day to supporters.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Truthsayer on March 15, 2025, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 15, 2025, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on March 15, 2025, 02:21:25 PMAt first club game of the year - huge improvement!... however umpire and ref can't seem to judge 2 pointers! Twice clearly outside arc not given..

Umpires definately can't see where the arc is.  Impossible for them.
That was the issue. Linesman and umpire from team that scored didn't signal them and ref missed them. As clear as day to supporters.

His own umpires? At our game today virtually impossible to call the 3v3 calls, the confusion from sidelines, players and managers calling for it really make it impossible to properly control
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

What's this 2 point "directly" change?

Does that mean if theres a block on a kick or the  GK  touches the ball over the bar , it's  given as 2 points?

Rossfan

No.
It's to allow for a ball hitting the post or the bar.
The "directly"  could have been read as being only 1 point in such cases.
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AustinPowers

Quote from: Rossfan on March 15, 2025, 09:25:11 PMNo.
It's to allow for a ball hitting the post or the bar.
The "directly"  could have been read as being only 1 point in such cases.

I see

So previously, if  a kick outside the arc hit the post and went over , it was only 1 point?

trileacman

Does anyone know where to get the definitive version of the final rules? All I can get is half-baked snippets from Joe.ie.
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Brendan

Quote from: trileacman on March 18, 2025, 10:33:24 AMDoes anyone know where to get the definitive version of the final rules? All I can get is half-baked snippets from Joe.ie.

Should be available by the 2nd week of July just in time for the All Ireland final

maldini

So some games don't have a hooter at all, some have one and once it blows that's it even if the ball is on its way over the bar, and in others they play on for a few minutes after the hooter and allow scores to stand?

Needs tidied up into some sort of consistency