Antrim Football Thread

[YoungSaff]

Any truth about a few players losing the faith in mcantee and packing the bags?

Can't say I blame them same shit different year what has he brought to Antrim football???

If true they are missing them biggest game of the year so far Antrim could be down very handy

Hopefully I'm wrong but came from a player

Not sure what age you are but I'm not too sure what manager other than Baker and Gomrley (Tommy cup) in so many years have brought to Antrim, it's been rinse repeat for many years, but we will continually blame the manger? It's not cotton to a lot of people that we are crap (and I mean that in the nicest of terms) at football? if you are in your late 80's you may remember the good times, but I'm glad I witnessed an Ulster Final, once 

i agree MR2 we cannot keep pointing the finger and a manager can only play the cards he is dealt with player availability , commitment etc. However I do not agree with disregarding player welfare in order to have certain guys playing , if boys are hurt their health and welfare is a lot more important than playing for Antrim , they should be catering for injured guys who are still attending and helping get them fit rather than playing them against their will or pressuring them to.

Again this is hearsay but I suppose if you want to believe what someone has put on the internet behind a screen knock yourself out..

Players also carrying chat from the squad is a red flag for me also

I (from a personal perspective) struggle with a lot of these new 'injuries' lol hamstrings weren't invented in my day, and if you had a major game coming up the last person you told that you were carrying a knock was the manager 

i would disagree with you here , football is a completely different game compared to how it used to be played the athletic demands on players are significantly higher than me and your day which is evident in the modern game. It is just a sake of hoofing it up nowadays and the statistics show that. I believe player welfare is always at the 1 , as you say it is heresay which could be very true but I was just saying my thoughts on the matter. Agreed players carrying chat is a red flag but if the word is true it would not be something I would stand for as a player , why would you put your health ahead of playing football?

As I said this is a personal view and a little bit of tongue in cheek...

Things are different for sure in terms of strength and mobility and so on I'm not disputing that but if you are playing high intensity sports with physical contact involved there will be implications, if your health is more important then maybe tiddledywinks would be a better sport to get into  

every day of the week I am putting my health and welfare over playing an amateur sport , your injured and get hurt even worse and require surgery etc is the county going to reimburse your loss of earning if self employed etc ?? Foolish to play if carrying a knock even myself as an old schooler have took the tinted glasses off and realised this , lads will know themselves if they are fit so will physios etc and their advice is best adhered to compared to a manager who likely has no degree or experience to say what way you are and in this instance is more worried about saving his own skin and pride than player welfare

[Níl a fhios agam]

guys, how many times has the same point t be made on this forum.... go right back to the posts about Dawson, Lenny, Fitzsimons, McGinley and every other manager we have had. We blamed everyone of them....

The county for years have made investments in senior managers and negated the grassroots of our sport. Arse about face. Our minors got another terrible drubbing v Derry last week, our 20s will face the same fate with whoever they face whether thats the A or B c'ship.

The whole focus and our set up is wrong. If you dont sew the seeds, i.e. this next generation now, how the f**k can we expect anything other at senior level than to be in the pits of county football.

I cant wait to see the fruits of what Gaelfast is doing, because at the minute, the reports i am hearing, the personnel involved in it are stealing a wage

[Take the Mark]

'if your health is more important'

What sort of imbecile comes out with that? Of course any mans health is more important than football. Thats a disgusting comment.

[Milltown Row2]

guys, how many times has the same point t be made on this forum.... go right back to the posts about Dawson, Lenny, Fitzsimons, McGinley and every other manager we have had. We blamed everyone of them....

The county for years have made investments in senior managers and negated the grassroots of our sport. Arse about face. Our minors got another terrible drubbing v Derry last week, our 20s will face the same fate with whoever they face whether thats the A or B c'ship.

The whole focus and our set up is wrong. If you dont sew the seeds, i.e. this next generation now, how the f**k can we expect anything other at senior level than to be in the pits of county football.

I cant wait to see the fruits of what Gaelfast is doing, because at the minute, the reports i am hearing, the personnel involved in it are stealing a wage

When Croke Park only give a fraction of what they gave Dublin for a similar project what did you actually expect?

[BigGreenField]

Any coach that asks a player with a head injury to play should be sacked, equally it's quite a serious allegation to be bouncing onto the internet without a source or names of player.

Gaelfast are trying to push water up a hill with the limited resources they have, from what I see and hear they do a decent job of trying to sow the seeds of the game in primary schools often, I would suggest clubs could be doing a lot more on ensuring they have the right coaches at the right ages rather than just who is willing or available.  Skills don't grow on tree's they are taught.

[YoungSaff]

Any coach that asks a player with a head injury to play should be sacked, equally it's quite a serious allegation to be bouncing onto the internet without a source or names of player.

Gaelfast are trying to push water up a hill with the limited resources they have, from what I see and hear they do a decent job of trying to sow the seeds of the game in primary schools often, I would suggest clubs could be doing a lot more on ensuring they have the right coaches at the right ages rather than just who is willing or available.  Skills don't grow on tree's they are taught.

just fyi head injury was never mentioned , it was players with muscle injures

[Milltown Row2]

Any coach that asks a player with a head injury to play should be sacked, equally it's quite a serious allegation to be bouncing onto the internet without a source or names of player.

Gaelfast are trying to push water up a hill with the limited resources they have, from what I see and hear they do a decent job of trying to sow the seeds of the game in primary schools often, I would suggest clubs could be doing a lot more on ensuring they have the right coaches at the right ages rather than just who is willing or available.  Skills don't grow on tree's they are taught.

Anonymous posters saying stuff on the internet? Crazy

If anyone has concussion they would, as long as they are symptom-free and have fully returned to normal life and light exercise, a return to sport can start after 14 days..

Is this an alleged concussion?  Must have happened at training recently?

[YoungSaff]

guys, how many times has the same point t be made on this forum.... go right back to the posts about Dawson, Lenny, Fitzsimons, McGinley and every other manager we have had. We blamed everyone of them....

The county for years have made investments in senior managers and negated the grassroots of our sport. Arse about face. Our minors got another terrible drubbing v Derry last week, our 20s will face the same fate with whoever they face whether thats the A or B c'ship.

The whole focus and our set up is wrong. If you dont sew the seeds, i.e. this next generation now, how the f**k can we expect anything other at senior level than to be in the pits of county football.

I cant wait to see the fruits of what Gaelfast is doing, because at the minute, the reports i am hearing, the personnel involved in it are stealing a wage

I hear similar that gaelfast are doing very little and getting paid big money , the only club in Belfast which really seems to be progressing is Naomh Brid and they are majorly helped with selection of players from an abundance of locations but ill say no more on that matter. The quality begins at development squads , the treatment of players , standards and a lot more have a huge role to play. I have said this before on the forum a huge issue is the lack of exposure to high level football when young. Take a look at cargin just as an example how many of these lads went to secondary school in Derry and represneted St Pats or St Marys i think this is crucial in development of players compared to schools in antrim where football is almost saw as a secondary sport. The culture is another issue which will be a hard one to shift but until players are given the same treatment as even for example Antrim hurlers (the coverage of games etc in previous years) the buy in will be limited.

[Milltown Row2]

guys, how many times has the same point t be made on this forum.... go right back to the posts about Dawson, Lenny, Fitzsimons, McGinley and every other manager we have had. We blamed everyone of them....

The county for years have made investments in senior managers and negated the grassroots of our sport. Arse about face. Our minors got another terrible drubbing v Derry last week, our 20s will face the same fate with whoever they face whether thats the A or B c'ship.

The whole focus and our set up is wrong. If you dont sew the seeds, i.e. this next generation now, how the f**k can we expect anything other at senior level than to be in the pits of county football.

I cant wait to see the fruits of what Gaelfast is doing, because at the minute, the reports i am hearing, the personnel involved in it are stealing a wage

I hear similar that gaelfast are doing very little and getting paid big money , the only club in Belfast which really seems to be progressing is Naomh Brid and they are majorly helped with selection of players from an abundance of locations but ill say no more on that matter. The quality begins at development squads , the treatment of players , standards and a lot more have a huge role to play. I have said this before on the forum a huge issue is the lack of exposure to high level football when young. Take a look at cargin just as an example how many of these lads went to secondary school in Derry and represneted St Pats or St Marys i think this is crucial in development of players compared to schools in antrim where football is almost saw as a secondary sport. The culture is another issue which will be a hard one to shift but until players are given the same treatment as even for example Antrim hurlers (the coverage of games etc in previous years) the buy in will be limited.

What's big money?

[BigGreenField]

Any truth about a few players losing the faith in mcantee and packing the bags?

Can't say I blame them same shit different year what has he brought to Antrim football???

If true they are missing them biggest game of the year so far Antrim could be down very handy

Hopefully I'm wrong but came from a player

I had heard a rumour from one of the lads involved with the set up that there was recently a clash of heads with a lot of players some of whom were injured and McEntee was pressuring them to play but not sure if they walked or not ? who was the player shared the info Gaels if you don't mind sharing ?

Not sure where I got the idea there was a head injury apart from this post..

[YoungSaff]

Any truth about a few players losing the faith in mcantee and packing the bags?

Can't say I blame them same shit different year what has he brought to Antrim football???

If true they are missing them biggest game of the year so far Antrim could be down very handy

Hopefully I'm wrong but came from a player

I had heard a rumour from one of the lads involved with the set up that there was recently a clash of heads with a lot of players some of whom were injured and McEntee was pressuring them to play but not sure if they walked or not ? who was the player shared the info Gaels if you don't mind sharing ?

Not sure where I got the idea there was a head injury apart from this post..

i think he meant more so they weren't seeing eye to eye?? that's what I gathered anyway

[YoungSaff]

guys, how many times has the same point t be made on this forum.... go right back to the posts about Dawson, Lenny, Fitzsimons, McGinley and every other manager we have had. We blamed everyone of them....

The county for years have made investments in senior managers and negated the grassroots of our sport. Arse about face. Our minors got another terrible drubbing v Derry last week, our 20s will face the same fate with whoever they face whether thats the A or B c'ship.

The whole focus and our set up is wrong. If you dont sew the seeds, i.e. this next generation now, how the f**k can we expect anything other at senior level than to be in the pits of county football.

I cant wait to see the fruits of what Gaelfast is doing, because at the minute, the reports i am hearing, the personnel involved in it are stealing a wage

I hear similar that gaelfast are doing very little and getting paid big money , the only club in Belfast which really seems to be progressing is Naomh Brid and they are majorly helped with selection of players from an abundance of locations but ill say no more on that matter. The quality begins at development squads , the treatment of players , standards and a lot more have a huge role to play. I have said this before on the forum a huge issue is the lack of exposure to high level football when young. Take a look at cargin just as an example how many of these lads went to secondary school in Derry and represneted St Pats or St Marys i think this is crucial in development of players compared to schools in antrim where football is almost saw as a secondary sport. The culture is another issue which will be a hard one to shift but until players are given the same treatment as even for example Antrim hurlers (the coverage of games etc in previous years) the buy in will be limited.

What's big money?

I am sure it is a nice figure whatever they are being paid !! It does not seem to be having a great effect I understand these things can take time , but are we putting it into the right areas?

[Milltown Row2]

Look I'm not denying we could be doing better but don't throw out statements that might not be true just to make a point, any wage could be a nice figure..

[Dreen]

Anyone thinking that there is big money in it is way off the mark and that stealing a living comment is ridiculous.

The people involved are working as hard as anyone, it just might not be on exactly what some here want them to do.

Has a Gaelfast coach been in your schools?

[SaffronSports]

When my kids were at primary school there was a change in principal and after that gaelfast were never out of the place. If they're not in your school it's probably not them that's driving that.