Future of Derry football

Started by Derry Optimist, July 18, 2024, 04:41:43 PM

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Derry Optimist

As we eagerly await the appointment of a new Derry Senior football manager, a few certain factors must be taken into account by the County Board, players and supporters TO ENSURE THAT THE CORRECT MANAGER IS APPOINTED.
Therefore we must select  a new manager with a proven track record, has no perceived  downsides, whether real or imagined and who will bring immediate stability for all stakeholders.

He must select, initially, a panel of 40 players, then trim them to 35 after all have been used in the McKenna Cup or challenge matches..

During the course of the league, a core group  of ten players should be selected for most games and each of the remaining 25 players should be given the opportunity to start at least one league game and come on for the last quarter in another.

If this system were adopted all 35 panellists would be exposed to quality football, alongside established players, and thus every panellist would get a fair opportunity to show their true ability.. Furthermore any panellist who is not listed in the first 26 for any county game should be allowed to play for their club that weekend if required.

Panel wise in addition to retaining the 2024 squad members, we need to enlist  at least  two  6 3" or 6 4" strong players who  are  good fielders and who would help to increase our options from kick outs. Most other Counties have these types. Think Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Mayo and Kerry for starters. KICK OUTS have become an increasingly more important part of our games nowadays and we should alter our tactics to accommodate this. Ideally we also require  two tall speedy forwards who can run at defences, unhinge them with their trickery, and score off either foot.
 
Likewise we have to have the option on our squad of a tall player  who can fill the traditional full forward role and create more opportunities for the likes of Shane McGuigan, Lachlan  Murray and Cormac Murphy. Finally and most importantly we have to recruit a player who can consistently score long range frees. 

One would think that having won three minor All IRELANDS WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS there must be within   that
 cumulative group the type and quality of player I have just referred to for the above vacancies.Doire Abu.

lenny

Quote from: Derry Optimist on July 18, 2024, 04:41:43 PMAs we eagerly await the appointment of a new Derry Senior football manager, a few certain factors must be taken into account by the County Board, players and supporters TO ENSURE THAT THE CORRECT MANAGER IS APPOINTED.
Therefore we must select  a new manager with a proven track record, has no perceived  downsides, whether real or imagined and who will bring immediate stability for all stakeholders.

He must select, initially, a panel of 40 players, then trim them to 35 after all have been used in the McKenna Cup or challenge matches..

During the course of the league, a core group  of ten players should be selected for most games and each of the remaining 25 players should be given the opportunity to start at least one league game and come on for the last quarter in another.

If this system were adopted all 35 panellists would be exposed to quality football, alongside established players, and thus every panellist would get a fair opportunity to show their true ability.. Furthermore any panellist who is not listed in the first 26 for any county game should be allowed to play for their club that weekend if required.

Panel wise in addition to retaining the 2024 squad members, we need to enlist  at least  two  6 3" or 6 4" strong players who  are  good fielders and who would help to increase our options from kick outs. Most other Counties have these types. Think Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Mayo and Kerry for starters. KICK OUTS have become an increasingly more important part of our games nowadays and we should alter our tactics to accommodate this. Ideally we also require  two tall speedy forwards who can run at defences, unhinge them with their trickery, and score off either foot.
 
Likewise we have to have the option on our squad of a tall player  who can fill the traditional full forward role and create more opportunities for the likes of Shane McGuigan, Lachlan  Murray and Cormac Murphy. Finally and most importantly we have to recruit a player who can consistently score long range frees. 

One would think that having won three minor All IRELANDS WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS there must be within   that
 cumulative group the type and quality of player I have just referred to for the above vacancies.Doire Abu.

Save all that good stuff for your interview. You don't want to be giving away all that golden material to the other applicants.

Franko

Quote from: Derry Optimist on July 18, 2024, 04:41:43 PMAs we eagerly await the appointment of a new Derry Senior football manager, a few certain factors must be taken into account by the County Board, players and supporters TO ENSURE THAT THE CORRECT MANAGER IS APPOINTED.
Therefore we must select  a new manager with a proven track record, has no perceived  downsides, whether real or imagined and who will bring immediate stability for all stakeholders.

He must select, initially, a panel of 40 players, then trim them to 35 after all have been used in the McKenna Cup or challenge matches..

During the course of the league, a core group  of ten players should be selected for most games and each of the remaining 25 players should be given the opportunity to start at least one league game and come on for the last quarter in another.

If this system were adopted all 35 panellists would be exposed to quality football, alongside established players, and thus every panellist would get a fair opportunity to show their true ability.. Furthermore any panellist who is not listed in the first 26 for any county game should be allowed to play for their club that weekend if required.

Panel wise in addition to retaining the 2024 squad members, we need to enlist  at least  two  6 3" or 6 4" strong players who  are  good fielders and who would help to increase our options from kick outs. Most other Counties have these types. Think Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Mayo and Kerry for starters. KICK OUTS have become an increasingly more important part of our games nowadays and we should alter our tactics to accommodate this. Ideally we also require  two tall speedy forwards who can run at defences, unhinge them with their trickery, and score off either foot.
 
Likewise we have to have the option on our squad of a tall player  who can fill the traditional full forward role and create more opportunities for the likes of Shane McGuigan, Lachlan  Murray and Cormac Murphy. Finally and most importantly we have to recruit a player who can consistently score long range frees. 

One would think that having won three minor All IRELANDS WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS there must be within   that
 cumulative group the type and quality of player I have just referred to for the above vacancies.Doire Abu.

This post makes me want to vomit

Brendan

Well at least you're not asking for too much...

Silver hill

What kind of alternative Derry utopia do you inhabit?
I want to move there.
I get the Derry optimism but you also need a pinch of realism

quit yo jibbajabba

I just read we need tall men, I ain't got time to read all that tbh

Estimator

Did this really require a new thread?
Any chance it could be merged?
Ulster League Champions 2009

Doire23

May be recalling wrong but feel that the last few years the problem has been that subs haven't been used extensively, even when we've been comfortable in games - just to give lads game time and make them feel valued. It's been a rigid 16/17 every game. You look at the likes of Armagh - they are utilising these men off the bench every game, either because they need the change or to give them time.

JoG2

Quote from: Franko on July 18, 2024, 05:29:59 PM
Quote from: Derry Optimist on July 18, 2024, 04:41:43 PMAs we eagerly await the appointment of a new Derry Senior football manager, a few certain factors must be taken into account by the County Board, players and supporters TO ENSURE THAT THE CORRECT MANAGER IS APPOINTED.
Therefore we must select  a new manager with a proven track record, has no perceived  downsides, whether real or imagined and who will bring immediate stability for all stakeholders.

He must select, initially, a panel of 40 players, then trim them to 35 after all have been used in the McKenna Cup or challenge matches..

During the course of the league, a core group  of ten players should be selected for most games and each of the remaining 25 players should be given the opportunity to start at least one league game and come on for the last quarter in another.

If this system were adopted all 35 panellists would be exposed to quality football, alongside established players, and thus every panellist would get a fair opportunity to show their true ability.. Furthermore any panellist who is not listed in the first 26 for any county game should be allowed to play for their club that weekend if required.

Panel wise in addition to retaining the 2024 squad members, we need to enlist  at least  two  6 3" or 6 4" strong players who  are  good fielders and who would help to increase our options from kick outs. Most other Counties have these types. Think Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Mayo and Kerry for starters. KICK OUTS have become an increasingly more important part of our games nowadays and we should alter our tactics to accommodate this. Ideally we also require  two tall speedy forwards who can run at defences, unhinge them with their trickery, and score off either foot.
 
Likewise we have to have the option on our squad of a tall player  who can fill the traditional full forward role and create more opportunities for the likes of Shane McGuigan, Lachlan  Murray and Cormac Murphy. Finally and most importantly we have to recruit a player who can consistently score long range frees. 

One would think that having won three minor All IRELANDS WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS there must be within   that
 cumulative group the type and quality of player I have just referred to for the above vacancies.Doire Abu.

This post makes me want to vomit

If Carlsberg done inter county manager appointments

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: JoG2 on July 18, 2024, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: Franko on July 18, 2024, 05:29:59 PM
Quote from: Derry Optimist on July 18, 2024, 04:41:43 PMAs we eagerly await the appointment of a new Derry Senior football manager, a few certain factors must be taken into account by the County Board, players and supporters TO ENSURE THAT THE CORRECT MANAGER IS APPOINTED.
Therefore we must select  a new manager with a proven track record, has no perceived  downsides, whether real or imagined and who will bring immediate stability for all stakeholders.

He must select, initially, a panel of 40 players, then trim them to 35 after all have been used in the McKenna Cup or challenge matches..

During the course of the league, a core group  of ten players should be selected for most games and each of the remaining 25 players should be given the opportunity to start at least one league game and come on for the last quarter in another.

If this system were adopted all 35 panellists would be exposed to quality football, alongside established players, and thus every panellist would get a fair opportunity to show their true ability.. Furthermore any panellist who is not listed in the first 26 for any county game should be allowed to play for their club that weekend if required.

Panel wise in addition to retaining the 2024 squad members, we need to enlist  at least  two  6 3" or 6 4" strong players who  are  good fielders and who would help to increase our options from kick outs. Most other Counties have these types. Think Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Mayo and Kerry for starters. KICK OUTS have become an increasingly more important part of our games nowadays and we should alter our tactics to accommodate this. Ideally we also require  two tall speedy forwards who can run at defences, unhinge them with their trickery, and score off either foot.
 
Likewise we have to have the option on our squad of a tall player  who can fill the traditional full forward role and create more opportunities for the likes of Shane McGuigan, Lachlan  Murray and Cormac Murphy. Finally and most importantly we have to recruit a player who can consistently score long range frees. 

One would think that having won three minor All IRELANDS WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS there must be within   that
 cumulative group the type and quality of player I have just referred to for the above vacancies.Doire Abu.

This post makes me want to vomit

If Carlsberg done inter county manager appointments

More chance of finding a Unicon carrying a bag of hens teeth. Think this lad has been on the glue.

I want to be as optimistic as the next man but the reality is if MOR doesn't take the job we are looking at a much less experienced manager who will have to build that experience similar to the 10 year project McGeeney has with Armagh. 

lenny

I have a feeling Gallagher will learn from his first stint and try to develop the panel. Having said that I would like our u20s to get a good, clear run in the next few seasons.

bannside

There's a player I saw playing for Derry minors two seasons ago that ticks all of Derry Optimists boxes.

Outstanding prospect, another Brendan Rodgers in the making. Midfielder about 6 foot 3.

Slotted 45s over for fun, maybe even further!

Turns out he was Brendan Rodgers first cousin, from Kilrea.

toby47

u20's only deserve to play if they are good enough.
6ft 3" or 6ft 4" intercounty players don't grow on tree's
Managers like Kieran McGeeney don't grow on tree's.
Another 6-7 subs up to inter county level standard aren't there yet, by the time they are up to that standard 2-3 key players will slip off. IC football squads in a revolving door.

Anyone feel that Derry just aren't at the level to win an AI?

Maybe I'm just a depresso.


LC

Quote from: lenny on July 19, 2024, 09:44:53 AMI have a feeling Gallagher will learn from his first stint and try to develop the panel. Having said that I would like our u20s to get a good, clear run in the next few seasons.

Sounds like someone is in the know re who the next Derry manager will be.

imtommygunn

You have a defense and midfield as good as anyone however you are a long way away in the forward department.