Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Armagh18]

I think we can all agree that these rules are made up by absolute gobshites

[BennyHarp]

Whoever was pissed off enough with joint captains lifting a cup to sit at home or in a committee and formulate a motion, send it to congress and lobby enough people to get it passed should be named and ridiculed for the rest of their  lives for being feckin idiots.

In the the future they should have dummy motions like this at congress and anyone who votes for them should be banned from the GAA for life. Flush these people out.

[lenny]

I think we can all agree that these rules are made up by absolute gobshites

The problem with new rules is that everyone immediately imagines the situation where their team is screwed over by a referee. The culture of blaming referees is sadly far too prevalent within the game. A rule brought in to correctly punish cynical play stopping a goal scoring opportunity by justly giving that team a goal scoring opportunity from a penalty is an absolutely fair rule. It does put more onus on referees and there will be mistakes but only teams who have defenders trained in the arts of cynicism are going to the losers overall from this rule.

[delgany]

I think we can all agree that these rules are made up by absolute gobshites

The problem with new rules is that everyone immediately imagines the situation where their team is screwed over by a referee. The culture of blaming referees is sadly far too prevalent within the game. A rule brought in to correctly punish cynical play stopping a goal scoring opportunity by justly giving that team a goal scoring opportunity from a penalty is an absolutely fair rule. It does put more onus on referees and there will be mistakes but only teams who have defenders trained in the arts of cynicism are going to the losers overall from this rule.

It will lead to more 'sweepers' and more defence based football, as the focus of the rule is on goal scoring opportunities e.g one on one situations heading straight for goals , as opposed to dragging some one in the corner.
On top of that, the fouling will just move beyond the 20m/ arc !

[Rossfan]

Jases lads and lassies don't let any positivity invade the place anyway

[delgany]

Jases lads and lassies don't let any positivity invade the place anyway

Being  pragmatic!

[Milltown Row2]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

[dublin7]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

If there's another defender who was going to tackle him then it's not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Soccer have the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rugby has the penalty try and yellow card for fouling a player to stop him scoring a try 

The new rule should cut down on cynical fouling so I'm in favour of it

[galwayman]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

If there's another defender who was going to tackle him then it's not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Soccer have the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rugby has the penalty try and yellow card for fouling a player to stop him scoring a try 

The new rule should cut down on cynical fouling so I'm in favour of it

In theory yes - but my major fear here is that it's completely up to the interpretation of the referee as to whether or not it's a clear goal scoring opportunity or not.
The list of black card offences according to the rule book is not ambiguous yet look at how that is interpreted so wildly differently by referees.
Lads are getting blacks for offences that should not be deemed as such according to the rule book so I fear this is a can of worms.

[dublin7]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

If there's another defender who was going to tackle him then it's not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Soccer have the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rugby has the penalty try and yellow card for fouling a player to stop him scoring a try 

The new rule should cut down on cynical fouling so I'm in favour of it

In theory yes - but my major fear here is that it's completely up to the interpretation of the referee as to whether or not it's a clear goal scoring opportunity or not.
The list of black card offences according to the rule book is not ambiguous yet look at how that is interpreted so wildly differently by referees.
Lads are getting blacks for offences that should not be deemed as such according to the rule book so I fear this is a can of worms.

The other sports get it right the majority of the time. By definition a clear goal scoring opportunity should be easy to get right for the officals

[lenny]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

If there's another defender who was going to tackle him then it's not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Soccer have the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rugby has the penalty try and yellow card for fouling a player to stop him scoring a try 

The new rule should cut down on cynical fouling so I'm in favour of it

In theory yes - but my major fear here is that it's completely up to the interpretation of the referee as to whether or not it's a clear goal scoring opportunity or not.
The list of black card offences according to the rule book is not ambiguous yet look at how that is interpreted so wildly differently by referees.
Lads are getting blacks for offences that should not be deemed as such according to the rule book so I fear this is a can of worms.

All rules of the game are applied according to the interpretation of the referee. I'm constantly amazed that the first thought people have is how their team is going to be shafted by some ref misapplying this rule. This'll work both ways, we'll gain from it on occasions and lose out on occasions. It's there to penalise cynical play and it's a very positive rule change.

[Angelo]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

If there's another defender who was going to tackle him then it's not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Soccer have the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rugby has the penalty try and yellow card for fouling a player to stop him scoring a try 

The new rule should cut down on cynical fouling so I'm in favour of it

In theory yes - but my major fear here is that it's completely up to the interpretation of the referee as to whether or not it's a clear goal scoring opportunity or not.
The list of black card offences according to the rule book is not ambiguous yet look at how that is interpreted so wildly differently by referees.
Lads are getting blacks for offences that should not be deemed as such according to the rule book so I fear this is a can of worms.

This is the problem. We have a major problem with refereeing incompetence in gaelic football. You see it up and down the country every week of the intercounty season and you now you are giving referees more discretion to administer their incompetence with match changing decisions. The likes of Gough and Deegan would be licking their lips at the chance to make a match changing decision.

[Angelo]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

If there's another defender who was going to tackle him then it's not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Soccer have the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rugby has the penalty try and yellow card for fouling a player to stop him scoring a try 

The new rule should cut down on cynical fouling so I'm in favour of it

In theory yes - but my major fear here is that it's completely up to the interpretation of the referee as to whether or not it's a clear goal scoring opportunity or not.
The list of black card offences according to the rule book is not ambiguous yet look at how that is interpreted so wildly differently by referees.
Lads are getting blacks for offences that should not be deemed as such according to the rule book so I fear this is a can of worms.

The other sports get it right the majority of the time. By definition a clear goal scoring opportunity should be easy to get right for the officals

By the definition the black card should be easy to get right for match officials but it's an absolute clusterfuck.

[In hiding]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

If there's another defender who was going to tackle him then it's not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Soccer have the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rugby has the penalty try and yellow card for fouling a player to stop him scoring a try 

The new rule should cut down on cynical fouling so I'm in favour of it

Bad news for Johnny Cooper that rule

[Milltown Row2]

So if he's dragged down and there is a player in a position that could also tackle him and prevent a goal will it be a penalty or not?

If there's another defender who was going to tackle him then it's not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Soccer have the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rugby has the penalty try and yellow card for fouling a player to stop him scoring a try 

The new rule should cut down on cynical fouling so I'm in favour of it

In theory yes - but my major fear here is that it's completely up to the interpretation of the referee as to whether or not it's a clear goal scoring opportunity or not.
The list of black card offences according to the rule book is not ambiguous yet look at how that is interpreted so wildly differently by referees.
Lads are getting blacks for offences that should not be deemed as such according to the rule book so I fear this is a can of worms.

The other sports get it right the majority of the time. By definition a clear goal scoring opportunity should be easy to get right for the officals

Other sports as in Professional sports?