Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[general_lee]

The Stewartstown players who received straight reds in the All-Ireland Final v Fossa were able to play in the Tyrone Intermediate 1st Round. Same applied to Paudie Clifford who played in Fossa's 1st game in the Kerry Intermediate Championship. I believe those suspensions don't apply until the All-Ireland series which might be a problem for Fossa should they make it that far.

What stage are Fossa at in Kerry? If they win Kerry they'll likely get through Munster. Would be some achievement to win Kerry intermediate after winning a junior last year

They're in the Final against Milltown/Castlemaine. Winners would be favourites for Munster alright.

Assume Fossa are fairly down the divisions in the league in Kerry if it's played without the county boys? Serious going to make an intermediate final.

They're Division 3, their opponents are Division 1.

[statto]

Have the new kickout rule/ rule not allowed to kick free kicks, marks, sidelines backwards been trialled as yet?  Any feedback on how it is working?

[Milltown Row2]

Have the new kickout rule/ rule not allowed to kick free kicks, marks, sidelines backwards been trialled as yet?  Any feedback on how it is working?

Was doing a college game the other night but its only the first teams at college which are trialing it. So never bothered staying after I did my game..

I'd say it will be a nightmare. What if the kicker can't kick the ball past the 45? In strong winds I've seen the ball not reach past the D!! or if you kick the ball forward and it tails off backwards before being picked up, is that a free?

Ah, sounds like a load a shite1

[statto]

Have the new kickout rule/ rule not allowed to kick free kicks, marks, sidelines backwards been trialled as yet?  Any feedback on how it is working?

Was doing a college game the other night but its only the first teams at college which are trialing it. So never bothered staying after I did my game..

I'd say it will be a nightmare. What if the kicker can't kick the ball past the 45? In strong winds I've seen the ball not reach past the D!! or if you kick the ball forward and it tails off backwards before being picked up, is that a free?

Ah, sounds like a load a shite1

That was one of the queries that I was thinking of.  Wouldn't be too much fun in winter football with it blowing a gale referee would get sick of throwing ball up.  If they were going to trial it would have thought been across the board so highly unlikely to be a runner. 

[Milltown Row2]

Have the new kickout rule/ rule not allowed to kick free kicks, marks, sidelines backwards been trialled as yet?  Any feedback on how it is working?

Was doing a college game the other night but its only the first teams at college which are trialing it. So never bothered staying after I did my game..

I'd say it will be a nightmare. What if the kicker can't kick the ball past the 45? In strong winds I've seen the ball not reach past the D!! or if you kick the ball forward and it tails off backwards before being picked up, is that a free?

Ah, sounds like a load a shite1

That was one of the queries that I was thinking of.  Wouldn't be too much fun in winter football with it blowing a gale referee would get sick of throwing ball up.  If they were going to trial it would have thought been across the board so highly unlikely to be a runner. 

On that, the ref 'apparently' can use his own discretion lol, been doing that for years, it never ends well 

[clarshack]

The Stewartstown players who received straight reds in the All-Ireland Final v Fossa were able to play in the Tyrone Intermediate 1st Round. Same applied to Paudie Clifford who played in Fossa's 1st game in the Kerry Intermediate Championship. I believe those suspensions don't apply until the All-Ireland series which might be a problem for Fossa should they make it that far.

What stage are Fossa at in Kerry? If they win Kerry they'll likely get through Munster. Would be some achievement to win Kerry intermediate after winning a junior last year

They're in the Final against Milltown/Castlemaine. Winners would be favourites for Munster alright.

Assume Fossa are fairly down the divisions in the league in Kerry if it's played without the county boys? Serious going to make an intermediate final.

They will play in Division 2 next year.

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/1104/1414667-gough-var-not-the-solution-for-gaa/
Leading inter-county referee David Gough has urged caution against any future introduction of a TMO or video assistant into Gaelic games.

Speaking on RTÉ Radio 1's Saturday Sport, the Meath man said that his position has evolved on the issue in recent times, offering up the recent Rugby World Cup final between South Africa and New Zealand as a tale of caution.

On X, formerly known as Twitter, Gough said that retiring referee Wayne Barnes was "abdicating his responsibility" with some key decisions in the match, including Sam Cane's upgraded red card, being made in the TMO bunker rather than by the English official on the pitch.

Gough admitted that in the past that he would have welcomed more technological assistance, but said that his mind has been changing.

"I have said in the past that I would have [welcomed assistance] but having watched what's happening now in soccer and the very fine margins they're looking at in relation to offside, we're talking millimetres here, it's going to come down at some point to maybe not a serious infraction like a red-card infraction, but something simple like steps, which is very hard for us to police.

"Steps happen every four to five seconds and it starts again for four to five seconds and it starts again. How stringent do you want that policed?

"If we do bring in a VAR or TMO, where does it stop?"


The introduction of VAR has proven controversial
Gough also hit out at the lack of consultation between officials and rule-makers when it comes to the laws of Gaelic football.

A meeting of the GAA's Ard Chomhairle at Croke Park on Saturday considered proposals from the standing committee on playing rules, and from the sliotar and hurley regulation workgroup, but Gough said that the document containing proposed rule changes was only disclosed to referees on Friday.

Gough also said that referees had been promised a say in rule changes in football, but such opportunities were ultimately not being afforded to them.

"The elite referees panel have not met the standing committee on playing rules," said Gough.

"They have been in position now for almost six years, some of them, we've never met them.

"When we met Tom Ryan [GAA Ard Stiúrthóir] in June of 2022 we were promised that there would be no introduction of new rules without meaningful consultation with the elite referees panel.

"We now have two incidents in the past year where referees have not been consulted and rules have been tried to be brought in without fully consulting with the people that are going to be implementing them."

[Milltown Row2]

I see there is a motion (that should eventually get over the line) that in Championship, if a game goes into extra time,  if a team has a player sent off, the team won't be able to start the game with 15 in that period, yellow cards which were scrubbed will follow you into extra time also.

Think its a good thing

[JoG2]

I see there is a motion (that should eventually get over the line) that in Championship, if a game goes into extra time,  if a team has a player sent off, the team won't be able to start the game with 15 in that period, yellow cards which were scrubbed will follow you into extra time also.

Think its a good thing

About time, the 2nd daftest rule in the book 'a new game'. Daftest being the advanced Mark.

[Saffron_sam20]

I see there is a motion (that should eventually get over the line) that in Championship, if a game goes into extra time,  if a team has a player sent off, the team won't be able to start the game with 15 in that period, yellow cards which were scrubbed will follow you into extra time also.

Think its a good thing

About time, the 2nd daftest rule in the book 'a new game'. Daftest being the advanced Mark.

agreed, sooner advance mark goes the better, brought in to try and make the game more entertaining (never was gonna happen) it has slowed the game down even more and taken a lot of inside flair out of it

[trailer]

Was thinking about this for a rule change. Game to restart after a goal with a throw up in MF. Players all return to their respective positions.
Why? Well it will give a bit more of a emphasis on the goal, opportunity to celebrate if you like but here's where I think it would really benefit the game.. at underage. The amount of times I see U12, U14 and even U16 teams concede another goal straight after the first. They just can't get the ball out and they kick it to the opposition who bag another. Restarting in MF give the team who concede time to get out again and reorganise.

If you want to go full on mad man make a goal worth 4 points.

[AustinPowers]

Was thinking about this for a rule change. Game to restart after a goal with a throw up in MF. Players all return to their respective positions.
Why? Well it will give a bit more of a emphasis on the goal, opportunity to celebrate if you like but here's where I think it would really benefit the game.. at underage. The amount of times I see U12, U14 and even U16 teams concede another goal straight after the first. They just can't get the ball out and they kick it to the opposition who bag another. Restarting in MF give the team who concede time to get out again and reorganise.

If you want to go full on mad man make a goal worth 4 points.

You'll see teams  milking it then, especially if that goal puts them  ahead with a few minutes left.  Soccer style goal celebrations two minutes long ,  players going down  with sudden injuries in opponents half so they have  to delay the  throw in.

[Rossfan]

You score a goal now = kick put from opposition 20m.
Score a goal if that was passed = throw in 50m nearer the scoring teams goal! Punishment for scoring a goal!

How about anyone on a yellow or who got a black in normal time can't play in the extra time?

[Cavan19]

You score a goal now = kick put from opposition 20m.
Score a goal if that was passed = throw in 50m nearer the scoring teams goal! Punishment for scoring a goal!

How about anyone on a yellow or who got a black in normal time can't play in the extra time?

Are you looking to add in stupid rules ?

[trailer]

You score a goal now = kick put from opposition 20m.
Score a goal if that was passed = throw in 50m nearer the scoring teams goal! Punishment for scoring a goal!

How about anyone on a yellow or who got a black in normal time can't play in the extra time?

At senior level the keeper will either go short or boot it 60m. With a throw up you have a far better chance of gaining possession I would argue.
Although I have to say I have zero appetite myself for anymore rule changes other than to remove the offensive / defensive mark .