Armagh v Derry - Ulster Final, 14th May, 2023 @ 4pm

[trueblue1234]

Well he has said, which I stated previous, that this had come up in the various court case between both parties. Don't know either, not from round that part of the country to know what everybody else knew.

He says "allegations again me" in his statement. He doesn't say it was "these allegations" which I thought was weird. He also doesn't refute the claims which I again find weird. I would have expected a "categorically deny" wording. But maybe that's me looking too much into it.
And to be fair to Rory, now that his wife has went public with these allegations she has to follow through with a case. You can't throw that out there and not be prepared to back it up.

[tbrick18]

Jesus i hope Armagh get stuck into these on Sunday. 31 counties behind Armagh on Sunday, and each game therafter

But Armagh are not playing Tyrone!

[Wildweasel74]

Unfortunately I have a close friend in a scenario ( it's the truth but I go with scenario) Where they split up, he got a Non-Mol it's rare for one against a girl) to put here out of the house, (I lifted her with the kids bawling their eyes out, as police escorted her from the house) The Non-Mol was so full of lies ( ie: She violent, heavy drinker etc, and other shit that was total crap) just cause some **** wanted to kept the house. Now with Covid, she didn't get her day in court to contest these allegations. It was dropped when she had sign she didn't want bck on the house. This nice guy (plenty money) paid the bare £7 a week  for each of his 3 kids, as he tried his best to put her under, legally though the courts with allegations the p***k didn't have to prove. Now he's well know in south Derry and my friend wants to put sthing up like this lady (He wasn't violent, more mental and financial abuse, ended up in a women's shelter). But everybody has his bck as they don't know what happened behind the scenes. She been wanting to put sthing up for months on what happened but I told her, like anything without actual proof she be legally destroyed and he walk away laughing. I have smoked him lights out long time bck but again he use the courts and I lose my job. And their children never see me the same way if I hammered their father.

[Armagh18]

Jesus i hope Armagh get stuck into these on Sunday. 31 counties behind Armagh on Sunday, and each game therafter

Wise up. Said it weeks ago I can't stand Gallagher but have a lot of admiration for the Derry players, some serious ballers and any I've seen speaking come across as decent lads. None of this is their fault so hoping for a good hard and fair game and may the best team win on the day.

[Saffrongael]

Jesus i hope Armagh get stuck into these on Sunday. 31 counties behind Armagh on Sunday, and each game therafter

But Armagh are not playing Tyrone!

Lol

[Armagh18]

Once the ball is thrown in the players will be focused on the game. If Armagh beat us it'll be fair and square. I see the bookies have us favorites but I see it as a 50/50 game. Be interesting to see who McKaigue picks up, and likewise who marks McGuigan.

McKaigue to take whichever of Rian or Murnin go inside although both like to come out the field so maybe Rodgers will be put on one? McCambridge marked Walsh and Clifford in the league and did rightly so can see him being given the McGuigan job if he starts, Forker been our go to man marker so he's another option, he'd also put McGuigan on the back foot as he can get forward for a score. Will be a seriously interesting game.

[Wildweasel74]

Derry beat Armagh regardless, unless Armagh well improved since their league meeting with Tyrone, where Tyrone beat them at their easy. If your basing Armagh to do sthing, based on Antrim who weren't going great, Down who couldn't get out of Division 3 and a flaky enough  Cavan team, it's more wishful thinking. Will the current carry on affect the Derry team, bound to, as its affected all the supporters. To me this game and Ulster title the only real trophy up for grabs this year as no Ulster team be near Sam Maguire.

[gallsman]

It looks like these allegations have been dealt with by the authorities, people will form an opinion agree or  disagree with Doire and Gallagher s statement,it's time to talk about the game on Sunday now.

100%.

Complete balls.

This will continue or be made to continue. There could be a million and one different meanings behind "investigated and dealt with by the relevant authorities". For example, it would not be uncommon in cases of DV for a complaint to be made but for the alleged victim to be too terrified or completely unwilling to give a statment to police, at which point the investigation simply closes. This will run and run and run.

[Itchy]

It's important to remember that these are allegations only. It's a sensitive situation, and it will be interesting to see if the Facebook post stays up

I'm sure Rory will take a case against his wife for defamation. For defamation to be proven he needs 1) The allegations about him to be false 2) To prove his wife put them into the public domain and 3) Proof that this has done him reputational damage

Seems like he has a nailed on case there.

[Armagh18]

It's important to remember that these are allegations only. It's a sensitive situation, and it will be interesting to see if the Facebook post stays up

I'm sure Rory will take a case against his wife for defamation. For defamation to be proven he needs 1) The allegations about him to be false 2) To prove his wife put them into the public domain and 3) Proof that this has done him reputational damage

Seems like he has a nailed on case there.

Doubt he has much chance of proving 1)

[AustinPowers]

If there was one in grain of truth of any single allegation I would have thought that would have been enough for him to step aside temporarily. The complete rebuttal and the reference to this having already been investigated certainly makes the County Boards position as difficult as it could be.

Nightmare scenario

What complete rebuttal?! If that statement is genuine, it looks to me that he has been very careful not to explicitly deny anything.

It's a complete rebuttal in the sense that it's an outright denial.

I didn't say it was a satisfactory rebuttal.

Just making the point that he has knocked this back to the county board and not exactly made it easy for them.

It's not an outright denial though? Although I'm sure it will follow.

He says allegations were made against him and dealt with by the relevant authorities. That could mean anything ffs.

If they were dealt with by the authorities and then he was awarded custody to the children you could probably read something into it. But either way it's a mess of a situation and mad the way people are so quick to make their minds up on something they have a read a post on facebook on.

100%

Some of the posts  I've read on   here are truly ridiculous. 

[oakleaflad]

Once the ball is thrown in the players will be focused on the game. If Armagh beat us it'll be fair and square. I see the bookies have us favorites but I see it as a 50/50 game. Be interesting to see who McKaigue picks up, and likewise who marks McGuigan.

McKaigue to take whichever of Rian or Murnin go inside although both like to come out the field so maybe Rodgers will be put on one? McCambridge marked Walsh and Clifford in the league and did rightly so can see him being given the McGuigan job if he starts, Forker been our go to man marker so he's another option, he'd also put McGuigan on the back foot as he can get forward for a score. Will be a seriously interesting game.

That's what makes it interesting for me. McGrogan or young McEvoy might in theory be better suited to Rian or Murnin as the tend to come out the field, but McKaigue is undoubtedly our go to man marker. Then you've Clucky too who (despite being brilliant) is a bit shorter than the other defenders and Armagh have quite a bit of height in there. Usually it's easier to predict who'll pick up who. I think Armagh forwards will ask different questions of the Derry defense and part of the reason I see this as close to a 50/50 game.

[Armagh18]

Once the ball is thrown in the players will be focused on the game. If Armagh beat us it'll be fair and square. I see the bookies have us favorites but I see it as a 50/50 game. Be interesting to see who McKaigue picks up, and likewise who marks McGuigan.

McKaigue to take whichever of Rian or Murnin go inside although both like to come out the field so maybe Rodgers will be put on one? McCambridge marked Walsh and Clifford in the league and did rightly so can see him being given the McGuigan job if he starts, Forker been our go to man marker so he's another option, he'd also put McGuigan on the back foot as he can get forward for a score. Will be a seriously interesting game.

That's what makes it interesting for me. McGrogan or young McEvoy might in theory be better suited to Rian or Murnin as the tend to come out the field, but McKaigue is undoubtedly our go to man marker. Then you've Clucky too who (despite being brilliant) is a bit shorter than the other defenders and Armagh have quite a bit of height in there. Usually it's easier to predict who'll pick up who. I think Armagh forwards will ask different questions of the Derry defense and part of the reason I see this as close to a 50/50 game.

Grugan pulls a lot of strings for us as well and needs watching although he maybe doesnt get the attention from people that the likes of Rian would. Thing that has improved with Derry big time is their ability to get scores from players from your keeper and corner backs to your forwards and are definitely not reliant on McGuigan anymore.

[SHEEDY]

People talking about this now to me that have absolutely no interest in the match on Sunday or any weekend, wanting to know what the gaa will do. It needs nipped in the bud before Sunday, no way Gallagher can be on the sideline. What message will that send out if he is.

[larryin89]

Would the first thing you'd write in your statement if you were not guilty of anything the ex wife accused him of be "I never raised my hand to her " surely ?