Armagh v Derry - Ulster Final, 14th May, 2023 @ 4pm

Started by Walter Cronc, May 01, 2023, 08:04:14 AM

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JoG2

Another Ulster title today which, considering the week that was in it and probably a collective 5/10 performance, but still able to get over the line, that shows real character.
Gough made some strange calls and missed a glaring black and 2 reds, but it's an impossible job and one I wouldn't want.
Surrounded by some really decent Armagh folk. Before the penalties, all in agreement that penalties are no way to decide a game of this importance.

Clones Town on Ulster Final day, is there anywhere like it in the world? Walking through it with the kids trying to view it through 11/12 year old eyes, mad! :) first time I've ever seen the 2 bag checks, one on the road up the hill and one outside the entrance to the Hill terrace. We were in the quieter O'Duffy terrace, some amount of half bottle of Bucky lying at the end, christ knows what the Hill was like!

Hard luck Armagh. Looking forward to the round robin now.

Wildweasel74

Derry good displays in McAvoy. Rodgers and McGuigan, but I thought none stood taller than Glass in extra time. As I thought Derry were gone. Derry have very strong underage Coming through do I expect Derry to start to contest a few more finals over the nxt 5yrs.

RedHand88

I really don't understand where this "penalties have no place in the GAA" nonsense comes from. Name me any sport that doesn't have a tie breaker. It comes across as typical anti- soccer rubbish.

armaghniac

Quote from: RedHand88 on May 15, 2023, 12:09:46 AM
I really don't understand where this "penalties have no place in the GAA" nonsense comes from. Name me any sport that doesn't have a tie breaker. It comes across as typical anti- soccer rubbish.

Yes, but a tie breaker could be kicking 45s or throwing the ball up between two players, it does not have to be penalties.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Blowitupref

Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 12:12:07 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 15, 2023, 12:09:46 AM
I really don't understand where this "penalties have no place in the GAA" nonsense comes from. Name me any sport that doesn't have a tie breaker. It comes across as typical anti- soccer rubbish.

Yes, but a tie breaker could be kicking 45s or throwing the ball up between two players, it does not have to be penalties.
Or have another 10 minute period of extra time and the next score wins.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

HiMucker

Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 12:12:07 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 15, 2023, 12:09:46 AM
I really don't understand where this "penalties have no place in the GAA" nonsense comes from. Name me any sport that doesn't have a tie breaker. It comes across as typical anti- soccer rubbish.

Yes, but a tie breaker could be kicking 45s or throwing the ball up between two players, it does not have to be penalties.
Each team has to pick one player each. They line up on opposing 45s. Run full pelt and hit shoulder to shoulder. If one man drops the other team wins. If both or neither drop, pick 2 more players and go again.

RedHand88

Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 12:12:07 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 15, 2023, 12:09:46 AM
I really don't understand where this "penalties have no place in the GAA" nonsense comes from. Name me any sport that doesn't have a tie breaker. It comes across as typical anti- soccer rubbish.

Yes, but a tie breaker could be kicking 45s or throwing the ball up between two players, it does not have to be penalties.

They had this and people complained.

What's the difference in taking 45s and taking penalties, besides the fact that those terrible soccer hooligans have penalty shootouts? That's what this is really all about.

Wildweasel74

Big notch for Meenagh managing a team to a Ulster title,

screenexile

Watched a bit back there... what in the name of all that's holy was Cassidy doing with a minute left of extra time taking that no look acute angle shot?


Never beat the deeler

Quote from: RedHand88 on May 15, 2023, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 12:12:07 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 15, 2023, 12:09:46 AM
I really don't understand where this "penalties have no place in the GAA" nonsense comes from. Name me any sport that doesn't have a tie breaker. It comes across as typical anti- soccer rubbish.

Yes, but a tie breaker could be kicking 45s or throwing the ball up between two players, it does not have to be penalties.

They had this and people complained.

What's the difference in taking 45s and taking penalties, besides the fact that those terrible soccer hooligans have penalty shootouts? That's what this is really all about.

I have no issue with penalties - scoring goals, and scoring goals from penalties have been skills in the GAA for a long time. So have saving goals, and saving penalties. So you get 2 players involved in each action.

I would have loved if they had a free taking competition, from varying angles and distances with the kicks getting progressively more difficult, then back in to easier kicks. But you can only use each player once. Would be very tactical, how much 'risk' you take with the poorer kickers on the easy kicks etc.
Hasta la victoria siempre

Eire90

i dont mind penalties  but alternative could be golden score or first to 2 points

Never beat the deeler

Quote from: Eire90 on May 15, 2023, 02:04:53 AM
i dont mind penalties  but alternative could be golden score or first to 2 points

would be pretty tough tho if there's a gale force wind blowing one way
Hasta la victoria siempre

seafoid

There are going to be 2 sharks lurking in the water at the quarter final stage. There are 4 quarter finals so Derry have a 50% chance of playing either Tyrone or Mayo.They would obviously beat Kildare or Cork....

https://youtu.be/0Wi8Fv0AJA4

general_lee

Fair play to Derry. probably on the day the better of two very evenly matched teams and only just deserved to win. Armagh had chances to go for the jugular and although I'll need to watch it back, surely the Jarly Og  goal chance can't be as easy as it looked from the Hill? The top teams would have punished that and I think that's the difference between Armagh and Kerry, Galway, Dublin etc.

I'm really gutted for some of the older players, they've soldiered on for 10+ years and they'll probably never win an Ulster title now, yesterday was their chance. For all the criticism Jemar Hall gets, he was fairly missed yesterday!

An Watcher

Would it not have been an option for armagh to replace rafferty with a proper keeper for penalties?